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LPPrince

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TheGoddess0fWar wrote...

FsDxRAGE_v2 wrote...

Guys, I am a little confused. Was there a part in the ending where you see Shepard's face buried in rubble and he takes a breath?


It's a certain ending.


That IS the best ending, but that ending is honestly just "The best of the worst".

Still unacceptable.

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If the Multiplayer was so goddamn amazing, this game would be back at Gamestop right now.

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Kloborgg711

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Knight Terror wrote...


Damn it, I just want my blue babies. .


Yes. Blow up Earth. Blow up the citadel. Hell, go ahead and destroy the entire civilization you made us love by blowing up the relays. But just one shot of Liara with Shepard's children... that would be incredible. We're really not asking for that much.

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C Trayne wrote...

Anyone? Secret ending? Beat the game a second time?


I've heard that's total BS; the guide is wrong. There's no secret ending. I , for one, will not be playing through to find out. I would be postal if I wasted all that time, only to get the same Primary Color Delusion again.

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I'm going to go back and play through the whole series again just to see if I can find something I missed. Fat chance, but maybe I owe it to myself. Besides, there were some things I messed up that I'd like to change in the event that what we're being told is true about hanging onto our saves from ME3. I will update if I notice any plot devices that change my current take on the endings.

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C Trayne wrote...

Anyone? Secret ending? Beat the game a second time?

The only 2 endings that can be considered secret is the small scene where Shepard gasps for air indicating that they survived, and the Mars winter with the grandfather telling the story to the kid. 

Several people have already commented that they have beaten the game a second time and there are no new scenes. 

Modifié par Schirach, 10 mars 2012 - 05:21 .


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Wazooty wrote...

worldwide wrote...

Wazooty wrote...

Maybe they're just doing this to prolong the feeling of "shepard is dead".

Like...in most games if you think the protagonist dies, the feeling of potential loss is gone in all of 10 seconds.

With this though, for at least 2/3 of the potential endings, you are damn sure the protagonist is dead.

Now, if they were to release some free dlc called "epilogue" or something, then all these emotions you feel will be justified...but in a good way. I mean...for a while there you actually truly think shepards dead, unlike every other game ever.

Even with the two endings where there's no way he can survive, it is still somewhat ambiguous: in one shepard dissolves but he is still "alive" somehow, controlling the reapers. In one he jumps into the light, but as with the third ending, there's no proof he died. I mean, you'd THINK he'd be dead because either way he's on the citadel...which just blew up, but then he was in the third ending too but he can survive in that one so....

Maybe bioware just wants us to all truly believe he's dead for the sake of the story, just to come out with an epilogue piece where the ending we all wanted comes, closure and all.  They have said multiple times how important it is to keep your ME3 saves...so.

Maybe they are making us all very emotional on purpose.

I think though that that wasn't a smart idea there are so many people who finish the game before others and then they tell their friends about how the game is great but the ending was a turd bucket and they'll then lose some potential buyers. Even If they did bring it out now there would be quite a few people who feel betrayed by bioware and even though they brought out a epilogue dlc they wouldn't get it. In other cases people wouldn't keep track of bioware anymore and wouldn't see the dlc and they still feel as if they were betrayed even though there is an epilogue added later.
In any case it should have been added since the very beginning



Maybe bioware is just so awesome that the loss of a few buyers is worth it for the sake of making an amazing and emotional story?

Maybe I'm just trying to remain hopeful.

Don't worry I'm also trying to remain hopeful that they'll bring out an epilogue dlc.
I mean even if it was just text in a textbox that tells you what happened to the different people you've grown to care about...well I would be fine with that...
well that and knowing how in the world the Normandy suddenly got to a mass relay in time to escape with someone who had been down on the ground with me, someone who should atleast be severly injured but lo and behold that someone looked as if he had been sitting on the Normandy the whole time...
lol so I guess what I am saying is I want an epilogue dlc plus an explanation or a redoing of the Normandy in the end

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Knight Terror wrote...

Little blue babies. Rainbows. Friendships. Hugs. High Fives. Tali unmasked in her new home. Etc.

It's the ending we deserve.
But not the ending we need right now.




That was a joke.





Damn it, I just want my blue babies. And this is coming from someone who actually likes bad endings.


I told Kaidan I'd come back to him. What a joke.

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I've been waiting to reply for 24 hours... Because of Origin I ended up registering my ME3 under this account instead of the one with all of my other ME games... Was so excited to play I screwed it up lol..

ANYWAY,
The entire ME series is ruined for me. They gave us 3 choices all with very, very, similar endings. Barely any questions were answered and no one has a clue what the hell is going on.

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My future relationship with the company depends on their reaction.

They release a free good ending DLC, and I'll be willing to put this entire unpleasaness behind us.

The release it as a paid DLC, and I'll be willing to do buisness, but no more pre-ordering, no more Collectors Editions and I wait until I hear if it's good or not before I buy anything.

They don't release anything that fixes the ending, and they are no longer welcome in my wallet.


Pretty much this...

I've defended Bioware so many times, even the whole DA2 fiasco, but I can't defend them on this one.

You guys screwed up. Fix it, or lose your fan-base.

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kramerfan86 wrote...

austinhan wrote...



Even the Fuhrer is upset.

That.... was amazing haha


Quite a few of those going around :D

Like this one

Or this one

Or the demotivational posters "Still a better ending than ME3" that were going on 20 pages back or so...

Modifié par Flammenpanzer, 10 mars 2012 - 05:25 .


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I dont get why there couldnt have been variety in the ending like originally promised. With all the variables, galactic readiness, and paragon/renegade leanings the endings could have been radically different ranging from disney to horrifically depressing to bittersweet victory. But no, we get basically the same ending regardless of our choices, our reputation, and our readiness.

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Everyone is ignoring the fact that (if you saved them) the Rachni are going to take over the galaxy eventually, with no Mass Relays, and the fact that their tech probably isn't based off of the Reapers, then as they are a patient race they will have no problem taking over the whole place

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TheGoddess0fWar wrote...

Knight Terror wrote...

Little blue babies. Rainbows. Friendships. Hugs. High Fives. Tali unmasked in her new home. Etc.

It's the ending we deserve.
But not the ending we need right now.




That was a joke.





Damn it, I just want my blue babies. And this is coming from someone who actually likes bad endings.


I told Kaidan I'd come back to him. What a joke.


I know, right? In LotSB I told Liara she would never have to lose me again. That's the only reason she continued her romance with me. All that is thrown out of the window. Now I'm not just dead, I'm a dead lying ****. When my Shepard makes these promises that there is a light at the end of the tunnel, that there is hope, I like to think he's telling the truth. Now I realize those are empty words. Might as well be depressing renegade Shepard, constantly telling everyone they're going to die really soon.

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kramerfan86 wrote...

I dont get why there couldnt have been variety in the ending like originally promised. With all the variables, galactic readiness, and paragon/renegade leanings the endings could have been radically different ranging from disney to horrifically depressing to bittersweet victory. But no, we get basically the same ending regardless of our choices, our reputation, and our readiness.


That's what happens when the overlord imposes release dates..

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kramerfan86 wrote...

I dont get why there couldnt have been variety in the ending like originally promised. With all the variables, galactic readiness, and paragon/renegade leanings the endings could have been radically different ranging from disney to horrifically depressing to bittersweet victory. But no, we get basically the same ending regardless of our choices, our reputation, and our readiness.

Exactly. Why give us 1 ending with 3 different colors? Why not give us different endings with real variations? Why???

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Some people have said they would be okay with a free DLC or even a paid one to clean up this mess. I'm not sure I would be. I mean, since when is it okay to publish and profit from a substandard product? If the tires fell off your car due to manufacturer error, would you be like, well, just charge me to fix it and we'll call it square? NO. I expect a satisfying game from start to finish. I expect everything to make sense. I write the best possible book I can -every- time. I don't get to make up crazy s**t because I don't feel like doing the job properly. C'mon.

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Kloborgg711 wrote...

TheGoddess0fWar wrote...

Knight Terror wrote...

Little blue babies. Rainbows. Friendships. Hugs. High Fives. Tali unmasked in her new home. Etc.

It's the ending we deserve.
But not the ending we need right now.




That was a joke.





Damn it, I just want my blue babies. And this is coming from someone who actually likes bad endings.


I told Kaidan I'd come back to him. What a joke.


I know, right? In LotSB I told Liara she would never have to lose me again. That's the only reason she continued her romance with me. All that is thrown out of the window. Now I'm not just dead, I'm a dead lying ****. When my Shepard makes these promises that there is a light at the end of the tunnel, that there is hope, I like to think he's telling the truth. Now I realize those are empty words. Might as well be depressing renegade Shepard, constantly telling everyone they're going to die really soon.


As a Paragon, I spent the entire game spewing encouraging speeches of hope and future.. Yeah..

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Bad Bioware!

I am a loyal fan, been playing since KOTOR 2, but you F*ked up the endings.

I will continue to be a loyal customer, and I sincerely hope you will recognize the value of making a ME3 Broken Steel equivalent.

But as matters stand...

The endings...

****.

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thormir wrote...

 still angry 24 hours later


Still angry 48 hours later.

[Begin obvious sarcasm] You know maybe we're just not getting the true genius of these endings. I know. It's hard to fathom  Shepard simply accepting these options out of hand seems wholly uncharacteristic. Think about it. The job of an ending is to make an attempt to tie off any loose ends of the story and provide some sense of completion or closure. Well Bioware may not have done all that with the approach but maybe they deserve the benefit of the doubt with this approach. This ending really makes me feel like I'm done with the game, how about you? That's something Mass Effect 1 and 2 endings couldn't do. I felt the need to improve on my ME 1 & 2 playthroughs every so often and try different routes. It's a bad ending structure if you think about it. You just couldn't feel completely finished with the first two games. Well, Mass Effect 3's ending made up for that. It so hit the spot that not only do I no longer feel any inclination to replay Mass Effect 3, I no longer harbour the slightest interest in playing Mass Effect 1 & 2. Job Well Done! [/end sarcasm]

Seriously, though. As someone who has all relevant DLC for the Xbox 360 version of 1 & 2 and the Collector's edition of 3, how could they have left this as is? All that work to make the gameplay of all three so incredible and the ending feels so empty. I even did the multiplayer thinking the original three choices with an EMS of 3300 was some sort of joke. I don't care about the ending being happy or sad or dark or disney. All I wanted out of the ending of Mass Effect 3 was what I really got out of the endings of Mass Effect 1 and 2; A compelling reason to play the game again. That's usually a standard with any good RPG. When I finished ME 1 I immediately started a new game it was that good. This ending is so horribly bad and insulting that I will likely not play ME 1 or 2 or 3 again. I'm contemplating turning in all three toward my Assassin's Creed 3 pre-order.

I do have one question that I'm sure no one at Bioware will ever see in such a fast growing thread; With as much obvious backlash from the ending as is seen, can you really hold out any hope in terms of sales on future Single Player DLC? To not have foreseen any of this backlash at all suggest they're a little out of touch with their fan base. To expect people to want to buy DLC in numbers like LotSB without some resolution would be idiotic. Retaking Omega could be a DLC as epic as LotSB but why bother as we all know Omega survives largely off traffic through the doomed relay. BW may come to the conclusion to not make anything of the sort as an expansion DLC of the ending would just about be a prerequisite for a lot of people. Right now I can't even recommend someone start into this series.

I'm not suggesting BW change there endings. That's changing artistic vision to suite the personal tastes of others. Maybe some will disagree but as a musician that feels wrong. However I sure would like an explanation of their vision in the form of an expanded ending. Please. Make me understand the ending as something other than the total doom and segregation of the intergalactic community (though Mass Relays can be rebuilt, Protheans proved it). Make me understand whether the Normandy was piloting the Relay or simply at FTL speeds (the former making me wonder how they even knew to head to the Charon relay in the first place) and, for that matter, where the Normandy ended up. Make me want to keep and play this trilogy again and recommend it to others.

Sorry for that essay... had to vent. Feel a little better now.

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i've loved this seris , ME3 was awsome  i played, i formed alliances and i lost friends, it was an emotional ride then i was heroicly charging  the gate way planing to fight my way through the reapers and husks  ,  just to slam into a brick wall blink twice and wonder wth happened  

the prima guide mentions a secret ending for Ng+ 

but im gona wait a bit and hope for a patch or some new DLC endings and play some MP to get my readines to 100%

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What's the most depressing about all this is the fact that the rest of the game was really good.

I got the destruction ending, and since I had done everything, Shepard takes that little breath. At that moment I instantly thought of the ending of Halo 3 where you die but you don't. Felt even worse than just telling myself Shepard was dead.

And the fact that all three choices are Deus Ex but suck.

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going on hour 70 since the game ended. Im still very upset. just ask my fiance...everything always comes back to "why ndid those ending have to ruin the best games of my life?"

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TheGoddess0fWar

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We will still be angry months later.

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Aztlanna wrote...

Some people have said they would be okay with a free DLC or even a paid one to clean up this mess. I'm not sure I would be. I mean, since when is it okay to publish and profit from a substandard product? If the tires fell off your car due to manufacturer error, would you be like, well, just charge me to fix it and we'll call it square? NO. I expect a satisfying game from start to finish. I expect everything to make sense. I write the best possible book I can -every- time. I don't get to make up crazy s**t because I don't feel like doing the job properly. C'mon.


You're not wrong.  But I think in your analogy, people really really love that car and would do whatever it takes to be satisfied with it.  But as I said, you're not wrong.  We shouldn't be having this conversation as they should have got it right the first time.  If they do the DLC and charge for it, that'd be really low.

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I mean, since when is it okay to publish and profit from a substandard product?


The product is not substandard. It is the most epic gave I have ever played. The last 5 minutes are the only real thing I can complain about for the entire game (that and the damn ladder bug)