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[Nyila]

Mikrin wrote...

I will continue to be a loyal customer, and I sincerely hope you will recognize the value of making a ME3 Broken Steel equivalent.

In my humble opinion, they crossed the line.. I totally want some kind of patch for this, but I don't really feel like throwing my money at EA anymore..

[VonVerrikan]

I am just as angry and numb as I was 24 hours ago.

For god sakes, how hard is it to include an option for my shepard to speak with the AI directly? EDI and the Geth are painfully obvious counters to it's crappy argument about AI's all turning against us.

[McBeath]

onikakarot wrote...
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the prima guide mentions a secret ending for Ng+ 

100%

It does no such thing, it says that players who have the prejec paddlefish survive into a new game plus get a bonus with Liara.   It doesn't say anything about the ending, I think players read into it too much hoping for a secret ending.

The paddlefish provides intel(at least at this point in my NG+), though I haven't got back onto the Normandy to see if Liara has anything to say about it.  All I got was an intel update about it after Mars.

Perhaps it does change the ending, all I know for sure is that it's a war asset for some reason.  Nothing has been mentioned about endings though in the book(I know, god have I checked!)

Cheers.  McBeath.

[GBGriffin]

McBeath wrote...


It does no such thing, it says that players who have the prejec paddlefish survive into a new game plus get a bonus with Liara.   It doesn't say anything about the ending, I think players read into it too much hoping for a secret ending.

The paddlefish provides intel(at least at this point in my NG+), though I haven't got back onto the Normandy to see if Liara has anything to say about it.  All I got was an intel update about it after Mars.

Perhaps it does change the ending, all I know for sure is that it's a war asset for some reason.  Nothing has been mentioned about endings though in the book(I know, god have I checked!)

Cheers.  McBeath.

I agree with this assessment. The way it's worded and structured, I can easily see how people misunderstood it to mean a hidden ending. They even put it in the ending section of the guide!

[Nyila]

Bamboo33 wrote...

What's the most depressing about all this is the fact that the rest of the game was really good.

Agreed!

[k8ee]

I don't really care about the choices, because really it was about defeating the reapers or losing to them, your choices being the path you took to get there. If you did enough, had a high enough score, you should have beat the reapers AND lived.

I have to tell myself that last part was in Shep's head, and was his/her battle with indoctrination. A test of resolve. Two out of the three choices leaves the reapers alive, no matter what you say, that is the opposite of what we were fighting for the entire time. Control and compromise. Notice how no one is cheering on Earth as the reapers leave? Destroying the reapers should be the right answer.

I also firmly believe this (lol maybe to make myself feel better) because if we see Shep take a breath at the very end, then how did he/she survive the destruction of the Citadel and the fall to Earth? Because that sure looked a lot like the dark concrete rubble I just ran through moments earlier...

Everything we see after Shep makes the decision seems to be him/her justifying the aftermath in his/her mind.

I mean, come on... how can we possibly believe the force which controls the reapers? It's craziness I tell you.

[ascended1]

Aztlanna wrote...

Some people have said they would be okay with a free DLC or even a paid one to clean up this mess. I'm not sure I would be. I mean, since when is it okay to publish and profit from a substandard product? If the tires fell off your car due to manufacturer error, would you be like, well, just charge me to fix it and we'll call it square? NO. I expect a satisfying game from start to finish. I expect everything to make sense. I write the best possible book I can -every- time. I don't get to make up crazy s**t because I don't feel like doing the job properly. C'mon.

I definitely get your point.  I feel the ending was lazy, absurd, and ridiculous.  I wouldn't push away free DLC to fix it though.  Would be kind of silly.  "Yeah I know it's broken, but I won't let you fix it on sheer principle."  Not that this is what you're saying of course. 

As for paid DLC...screw that.  I'd be furious if they left off something as important as the ending of a trilogy just so they can charge later for it.

[Arios1570]

alyssa305 wrote...

humes spork wrote...

Golferguy758 wrote...

Your avatar is very similar to how my face actually was when I was fighting the banshee and brute horde on the missle stage. And then again at THAT part.

You know, that part was amazing. My thought process in that was pretty much this:

"Ha ha, very funny Bioware, I've seen this trick before. I start to get overrun then my reinforcements roll in like a pack of stone cold, pipe-hitting mofos and...uh...holy mother of god that's a lot of brutes. It's ok, I got this, brutes are nothing. I just spam charge until...
pipe-hitting mofos? Where are you? I don't think they're coming..oh F$&# they're not coming. Banshees too? FFFFFFUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU....spam charge spam charge for the love of dear god in heaven almighty spam charge oh s&@! it's on cooldown my barriers are down buttf$^@ing baby Jesus on a pogo stick more banshees s$^@crap oh thank god navpoint run and hit it NOW...phew.

OH HELL YEAH DIE MOTHERF&@^ER DIE!"

lmao i ran so fast when i had that damn option i was like **** this boom run to missile launch. Those brutes were

pain in the ass...........

  I kept shouting for Garrus to use concussive shot and Liara to use Warp, but my sound was up too lout and the kinect got confused.

[Aztlanna]

Flammenpanzer wrote...


The product is not substandard. It is the most epic gave I have ever played. The last 5 minutes are the only real thing I can complain about for the entire game (that and the damn ladder bug)

But those minutes break everything up to that point. It invalidates all the effort that came before; this, by definition, is the opposite of satisfactory. I mean, if a guy is a great husband, right up until he kills his wife with a shotgun, those last five minutes obviate what comes before. So do these endings. They ruin the game & the franchise.

[Trunks Bordare]

I just finished the game myself and, like most of you, am very disappointed in the ending scenarios. When I reached the point where I had to make one of three decisions, I had to get up and walk away to give myself time to think how I can get the ending I want. Sadly, I played all three endings hoping that one would give me the closure to the series I was hoping for. Alas, that did not happen. 
It is frustrating, disappointing, and most of all, sad that no matter what you do, no matter the choices you've made over the course of 3 games and over 100 hours of gameplay, you are reduced to essentially 1 ending that clearly no one is satisfied with. Ultimately, I feel empty and empathize with every fan who feels their choices meant nothing in the hour in which they should have meant the most. 
I am fine with having an ending in which Shepard dies. In fact, I suspected that it would be one do the options. That's ok, but it shouldn't be the only option. Why not show an ending where Shepard and his LI are happily ever after? Why not show an ending where Shepard fails and the cycle continues? Why not show Shepard sacrificing himself to save all life, but not destroy the Mass Relays? Why can't there be a final showdown with Harbinger? My point is, there are numerous options that could have been used. Why just one? It was our choices that led us to the end. It should have been our choice on how it ends. 
The "stock" endings don't make sense anyway. Why was Joker piloting the Normandy away from Earth anyway? How did the crew end up on the ship when they were charging the citadel teleporter with me? If the Mass Relays are destroyed, then how is that better than the Reapers destroying organic life? It just doesn't make sense. 
Would DLC fix the ending? Probably, but we shouldn't need DLC to make our choices mean something, to give us the closure and ending we want. Will it be perfect for all? No, but it will be better than a meaningless, confusing, and empty ending we've all been forced into. No fan of the series should ever have to pay to feel their choices meant something and to have a satisfying ending. However, EA knows we will all pay for it because this is as much our story as it is theirs. And we, the fans of this incredible universe, characters, and story, we will make one more choice, the most important choice of the series. We choose to reject this one "stock" ending. We deserve better for Shepard, his friends, and ourselves. 

[Sl4sh3r]

Video games now and video games then...

^
If they make us pay for the real ending, they are proving that picture.

Modifié par Sl4sh3r, 10 mars 2012 - 05:43 .

[FerretQA]

I HATED the ending, but its not fair to say the entire game was sucky. It was fun, it just happened to have the worst ending in the history of all games/stories ever. The strange part is that more than one person at BioWare had to have been in the decision making process on this. I guess it goes to show that BioWare can step on it as bad as NetFlix.

[justie]

TheGoddess0fWar wrote...

Knight Terror wrote...

Little blue babies. Rainbows. Friendships. Hugs. High Fives. Tali unmasked in her new home. Etc.

It's the ending we deserve.
But not the ending we need right now.




That was a joke.





Damn it, I just want my blue babies. And this is coming from someone who actually likes bad endings.

I told Kaidan I'd come back to him. What a joke.

What about laying Jack....That anit happening

[revaew]

I did the math. With the amount of time that I had investing in my character from ME1 through the ending, i calculated what ruined these games. quite literally the very last .0017% of my mass effect experience ruined it for ever.....

.0017%

you have got to be kidding me. this must be a record....

[Kloborgg711]

The more I think about it, the more I think the rest of the game just added to make the ending that much worse. The entire damn game is Shepard talking about hope and the future of the galaxy. We cured the Krogan and allied the Geth and Quarians. We now can't wait to see what happens. The whole game seems to get better and better, constantly leading us to the ultimate climax, preparing us for a spectacular ending. And then the door is just shut in our face. It doesn't fit, it just doesn't fit! If Mass Effect was a book written a few centuries ago, I would argue with certainty that the last few pages were a forgery, and the original ending was lost to time. It's not just depressing, it's not just badly written, it's not just poorly implemented, it feels like it's part of a different game. It takes this incredible (really spectacular) momentum that the rest of the game gives us.. only to make the drop to rock bottom seem even steeper.

[Garathe]

Aztlanna wrote...

Flammenpanzer wrote...


The product is not substandard. It is the most epic gave I have ever played. The last 5 minutes are the only real thing I can complain about for the entire game (that and the damn ladder bug)

But those minutes break everything up to that point. It invalidates all the effort that came before; this, by definition, is the opposite of satisfactory. I mean, if a guy is a great husband, right up until he kills his wife with a shotgun, those last five minutes obviate what comes before. So do these endings. They ruin the game & the franchise.

Thats actually a good summation of how absurd the endings made the rest of the game.  All the running around trying to get people together to save the galaxy comes to a screeching halt when the kid-vi shows up to tell you you've basically been wasting your time and you can only do these 3 things.

[Lurchibald]

I agree @FerretQA The game was amazing, but the end had almost nothing to do with what you did in the game.

[mauro2222]

VonVerrikan wrote...

I am just as angry and numb as I was 24 hours ago.

For god sakes, how hard is it to include an option for my shepard to speak with the AI directly? EDI and the Geth are painfully obvious counters to it's crappy argument about AI's all turning against us.

That's because it's a VI, or the most stupid AI ever. Maybe it was just trolling us. The son of GLADOS?

[TheGoddess0fWar]

Give or take a few weeks and we'll find out if there ever was a "secret ending"

[The BS Police]

I do hope Bioware adds a new alternative ending to this game as DLC.

[Aztlanna]

Garathe wrote...

Thats actually a good summation of how absurd the endings made the rest of the game.  All the running around trying to get people together to save the galaxy comes to a screeching halt when the kid-vi shows up to tell you you've basically been wasting your time and you can only do these 3 things.

RIGHT? I mean, what was the point of building your multi-species fleet when you never see them fight? What was the point of curing the genophage or making peace between the geth and the quarians (or not, in both cases)? You never take back Earth. Basically, it's like, "oh, we're not actually writing an ending for the game you played. Have this one from Deus Ex!" 

[FsDxRAGE_v2]

So my brother (who has not finished the game yet) and I were talking about bad endings and he brought up Halo 2 as his prime example. Oh boy did I laugh.

[tausra]

Check out this enlightening response:
http://social.biowar...7978/26#9733284

Modifié par tausra, 10 mars 2012 - 05:53 .

[phrizek]

Never has a video game ending so soured my perception of an entire series. I never thought such a thing could be possible, but Bioware managed to ruin my favorite game series, which I've put hundreds of hours into, in five short minutes. While the final assault on Earth was a bit lackluster, I was still enjoying the game right until the moment Shepard met the Catalyst. I'm pretty devastated, and I feel betrayed. I'm adding my voice to the chorus here in the slim hope that Bioware will somehow manage to salvage this abomination.

[Lugaidster]

This has to be the biggest thread I've ever seen. More than 15000 replies! Keep it up guys, it goes to show that this game has many heartbroken fans.