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[Big I]

Allworkandlowpay wrote...

LookingGlass93 wrote...
The Romans built roads, some of which are still in use today. When in colonial possesion of nations such as India the British built rail networks. I would argue against using infrastructure created by others as being a sign of slavery, and more a welcome poetic justice.

The Romans didn't wipe all life off the face of the planet. 

We turned Auschwitz into a museum to remember a tragedy, we didn't reuse it as a prison.

The Romans kept slaves and conquered most of the world they knew about. By todays standards that's indefensible, but it doesn't take away from the worth of their technological achievements.


German scientists were at the forefront of the space program after WW2, and many of them worked on weapons programs during the war. Does that invalidate the space program? I'd argue not.

[stoicsentry2]

Oh, so they did it AGAIN huh? Justifies my stance about not buying this game after the DA2 disaster. Sigh.

[Allworkandlowpay]

Dragonfable of Dain wrote...
They have definitely said that ME 3 is the end of shepards story, if they do another game in the ME univers it will probably be a MMO.

ME 3 is the end of Shepards adventure. ME4 you will not play as Shepard, that doesn't mean it won't be about finding him and his crew, or meeting up with them, or rescueing them. SW TOR and KOTOR 2 weren't Revan's stories, but you definitely feel/see his involvement in the story.

[Pax of Doom]

Provo_101 wrote...

DifferentD17 wrote...

What's the point if every relay blows up? It would cause 100s of supernovas, destroying almost every Solar system.

I don't think they actually explode. More along the lines of short-circuiting.

The relays are out of commission, permanently or otherwise, would sort-of be bad for expanding the Mass Effect franchise, right?  Where do you go if one of the main tenets of your science and myth world (travel via the relays opens up the universe in ways FTL can't) is canonically eliminated?  A prequel game?  A RTS of building civilization post-destruction?  An MMO taking place on, say, Palaven only?

Elegana wrote...
Indeed. I told people:
"This is a great business scheme for Bioware! Just get people pissed off
about the endings, have them demand a DLC where you can get better
endings, and give it to them for $X!".

This is tenable yet horrifying.  It will probably happen, and damned if it won't sell like toilet paper at the Montezuma's Revenge resort.

[Mr.House]

Allworkandlowpay wrote...

Dragonfable of Dain wrote...
They have definitely said that ME 3 is the end of shepards story, if they do another game in the ME univers it will probably be a MMO.

ME 3 is the end of Shepards adventure. ME4 you will not play as Shepard, that doesn't mean it won't be about finding him and his crew, or meeting up with them, or rescueing them. SW TOR and KOTOR 2 weren't Revan's stories, but you definitely feel/see his involvement in the story.

That is plain stupid, since my Shepard is female.

[SpiderFan1217]

All I know is, if this is how it's gonna end, my Shep better get laid before the end and it had better be the best f'ing sex.... EVER!!!

[John Never Dies]

Nyaore wrote...

John Never Dies wrote...

Still can't get over how people want a ending where everything lives and no one dies when organic life is threaten by the most powerful force in the ****ing universe.

Get over it meatbags. It probably make a lot more sense to you when you actually play the game.

Bring it on, it wraps up the series well and really gives it that ending feel unlike Gears 3 where I felt like it was to friendly flower ending for it to be over.

Honestly I havent seen one person who wanted something like that to happen. If anything most people are fine with bittersweet endings, and saw them coming a mile away. The problem for most is that all these endings are plain old bitter, with no sweet edge to help them go down easily. 

Everyone complaining are talking like they deserve a flower girl ending though. They don't and were really not promised one. 

Not all stories can be sweet is what people need to realize. 

Nad like others have been saying. Its probably not as harsh in context.

[Capeo]

RiouHotaru wrote...

Except the strategy guide states there is a "perfect" ending.

The script calls merge the "perfect" ending and is apparently the hardest to get.  

[Elegana]

Pax of Doom wrote...

Elegana wrote...
Indeed. I told people:
"This is a great business scheme for Bioware! Just get people pissed off
about the endings, have them demand a DLC where you can get better
endings, and give it to them for $X!".

This is tenable yet horrifying.  It will probably happen, and damned if it won't sell like toilet paper at the Montezuma's Revenge resort.

I would buy it in a heartbeat. Paragons would buy it in a heartbeat. People emotionally attached to their LIs will buy it. Curious people will buy it. 

E'RRYBODY BUYS IT!

[DifferentD17]

The most annoying thing is that there might as well be only 1 ending. Slight differences mean nothing.

[jlb524]

Mr.House wrote...

Allworkandlowpay wrote...

Dragonfable of Dain wrote...
They have definitely said that ME 3 is the end of shepards story, if they do another game in the ME univers it will probably be a MMO.

ME 3 is the end of Shepards adventure. ME4 you will not play as Shepard, that doesn't mean it won't be about finding him and his crew, or meeting up with them, or rescueing them. SW TOR and KOTOR 2 weren't Revan's stories, but you definitely feel/see his involvement in the story.

That is plain stupid, since my Shepard is female.

LOLz, like they care.

DifferentD17 wrote...

The most annoying thing is that there might as well be only 1 ending. Slight differences mean nothing.

It seems like it and your choice affects what color the relays turn when they go bye bye.

The green looks prettty, so I'm leaning towards 'Merge'.

Modifié par jlb524, 29 février 2012 - 04:52 .

[BasementDweller]

I haven't read the whole thread, but there's something I don't get.

Apparently, the Normandy gets stranded in a distant planet, completely cut off from civilization at large, never to be seen again.
The thing is, Isn't the rest of the fleet fighting the reapers near Earth? So what exactly was the crew doing in a distant planet? How and why did they end up there? It just makes no sense.

Also, can someone explain to me what exactly the role of the Crucible is. It seems nothing but a badly thought out Deus Ex Machina from what I've read so far.

[Elegana]

Capeo wrote...

RiouHotaru wrote...

Except the strategy guide states there is a "perfect" ending.

The script calls merge the "perfect" ending and is apparently the hardest to get.  

Time to play MP.

Modifié par Elegana, 29 février 2012 - 04:52 .

[Knight_Quack]

Canadish wrote...

Allworkandlowpay wrote...

Capeo wrote...

Supposed epilogue pic

http://postimage.org/image/lz8pchebx/

Who's the tiny little man? Alternatively who's the giant?

It's a woman and child talking about "The Shepard".

The child begs for more tales of space travel (now impossible) and is promised more about "The Shepard" another day.

I think I'm going to drink myself to oblivion if something like this happens , anyone care to join?

[Allworkandlowpay]

LookingGlass93 wrote...
The Romans kept slaves and conquered most of the world they knew about. By todays standards that's indefensible, but it doesn't take away from the worth of their technological achievements.


German scientists were at the forefront of the space program after WW2, and many of them worked on weapons programs during the war. Does that invalidate the space program? I'd argue not.

You have a point, but only in the sense that it shows that what is occuring in the Mass Effect universe really doesn't have a parallel to our world. 

You are right though, there are many people who wouldn't want to throw away technological advancements just because they were tainted by slavery, destruction and death. But ask somebody in Israel if they'd like to use weapons tested on their ancestors during WW2, I think we both no the answer.

There will be people on both sides in the Mass Effect universe. There will be forward thinkers, people who like the Illusive Man, would spare no expense at reverse engineering the Relays or try to create their own, perhaps even try to extract the knowledge of their creation from the brains of a dead Reaper. There are others who will want to take this as a way to turn a new leaf in not just human existance, but organic existance. 

Either way, the metaphorical nature of the Relays' destruction still stands.

[AlphaJarmel]

BasementDweller wrote...
The thing is, Isn't the rest of the fleet fighting the reapers near Earth? So what exactly was the crew doing in a distant planet? How and why did they end up there? It just makes no sense.

It's an asspull.  It literally doesn't make sense on multiple levels and is a bull**** way to create drama.

[syllogi]

The people saying we're unrealistic fluff lovers are right. Who needs to feel good when playing a game???

I'm going to go do my taxes right now, and meditate on how gritty and realistic the experience is. There are no frivolous love interests or unnecessary happy endings when I'm writing a check to the government!!! Awesome!!!

[Elegana]

AlphaJarmel wrote...

BasementDweller wrote...
The thing is, Isn't the rest of the fleet fighting the reapers near Earth? So what exactly was the crew doing in a distant planet? How and why did they end up there? It just makes no sense.

It's an asspull.  It literally doesn't make sense on multiple levels and is a bull**** way to create drama.

Watch hardcore ME fans rip Bioware for all the "mis-lores" in ME3 like they did with the novels.

[Sakhalin]

jlb524 wrote...

The green looks prettty, so I'm leaning towards 'Merge'.

I WANT PURPLE

[Allworkandlowpay]

DifferentD17 wrote...

The most annoying thing is that there might as well be only 1 ending. Slight differences mean nothing.

They may have more meaning to the grander storyline, but this is nothing new. The endings in ME1 were just slight differences which meant nothing. Same with ME2. This is an interactive novel, where your actions do effect the games story. Nobody said that they would make for a wildly different experience.

[Nyaore]

Sakhalin wrote...

jlb524 wrote...

The green looks prettty, so I'm leaning towards 'Merge'.

I WANT PURPLE

YOU'LL GET GREEN, AND YOU'RE GOING TO LIKE IT MISTER.

[Pax of Doom]

casedawgz wrote...
It's not that I want everyone to live. It's just that even in the one ending where Shep isn't killed in the blast, he's either going to starve to death or wrap his lips around the barrel of his own gun. 

Don't be silly.  A human can go a few weeks without food.  Shepard would probably die of dehydration first.

[Dragonfable of Dain]

Sakhalin wrote...

jlb524 wrote...

The green looks prettty, so I'm leaning towards 'Merge'.

I WANT PURPLE

RAINBOWS would be nice

[f1ndmenow]

okay mass effect you make me want to have a life

Modifié par f1ndmenow, 29 février 2012 - 07:11 .

[DifferentD17]

jlb524 wrote...

Mr.House wrote...

Allworkandlowpay wrote...

Dragonfable of Dain wrote...
They have definitely said that ME 3 is the end of shepards story, if they do another game in the ME univers it will probably be a MMO.

ME 3 is the end of Shepards adventure. ME4 you will not play as Shepard, that doesn't mean it won't be about finding him and his crew, or meeting up with them, or rescueing them. SW TOR and KOTOR 2 weren't Revan's stories, but you definitely feel/see his involvement in the story.

That is plain stupid, since my Shepard is female.

LOLz, like they care.

DifferentD17 wrote...

The most annoying thing is that there might as well be only 1 ending. Slight differences mean nothing.

It seems like it and your choice affects what color the relays turn when they go bye bye.

The green looks prettty, so I'm leaning towards 'Merge'.

LOL So much customization!!! Which one do I choose.