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[FsDxRAGE_v2]

PoliteAssasin wrote...

Anyone notice they're locking threads about the endings being bad, telling them to come here so it can all be in one place? Yet they're not locking the duplicate threads talking about how the game was good, and telling them to stick it in one thread. Makes you think...

-Polite

Oh, we've got their attention.

[Harbinger of your Destiny]

PoliteAssasin wrote...

Anyone notice they're locking threads about the endings being bad, telling them to come here so it can all be in one place? Yet they're not locking the duplicate threads talking about how the game was good, and telling them to stick it in one thread. Makes you think...

-Polite

If that were true this thread would have been locked a long time ago. No Chris is just keeping the boards relatively clean.

[Landline]

Jackal7713 wrote...

The rage is only going to get worse, if Bioware doesn't say and do something. The unhappy fans list is only growing by the day. It would be nice to hear something from them.

I've heard the situation described as a cold war.

I think it's better described as a gas leak. The longer you let it sit, the more hazerdous the situation gets.

[ssyyllaarr]

True that, i cant accept anything without my shepard and jack together at the end. New DLC endings please.

[TheGoddess0fWar]

Ah, stargazer. Our one true savior.

[Sevantha]

I voted in the other topic, but I also wanted to leave my opinion here, even though I doubt they will read it.

I didn't play Mass Effect from the start, I only heard about it, when the second part was out and a lot of people talked about it. So i started playing ME1 while everyone was already playing ME2. I loved it, I have never played a game, that i loved this much. The story, the characters, everything was just pure awesome. When i was done with ME1 most of the ME2 DLCs where already out, so I played them as well and i I loved it even more than ME1. I played it through several times and I was looking forward to playing the next game.

Now, I have finished ME3 and I'm left with......nothing. Not only were the endings horrible and really sad, the whole story didn't make sense anymore. The idea behind the reapers is that they wipe out advanced organics so that the organics cant be killed by the synthetics? really?! The whole third game was very predictable and there wasn't any moment other than the end, that would leave you with a "WTF just happened" feeling.
I kept playing cause I hoped that the end would make up for it. But what kind of end is this really? First we don't really get to fight anyone, no big badass endboss we have to kill, just some lame kiddie that gives us two (or three) stupid choices.

Some people say endings like this are realistic. We are playing a game here, a scifi game, it's not supposed to be realistic, its supposed to be fun and make you happy. If i wanted realism I wouldn't play any games like that.
I want my character to save the freaking galaxy and life happily ever after with a bunch of kids OR the idea that one day there might be some more advantures to play.
I cared about my character and the crew of my ship for three games, I did EVERYTHING for them. loyality missions, upgrade their gear, upgrade my ship, do all kind of stupid chores, mine all the planets that i possibly could for resources, later on scan them for war assents. And then i have to watch my character die and my crew stranded god knows where, most likely going to die too?!

Before I started playing ME3 i planned on starting a new char in ME1 and import it to ME2 and play that and then import the char to ME3 and play it through again but now I don't feel like playing any of the ME titles anymore. this ending didn't just ruin one game for me, it ruined the whole series and it's doubful i will ever buy a DLC for it, if there will be more than the one thats already out there, unless they give other ending options.
My will to play any of these games died with my character.

[sergeym1990]

blackeyes677 wrote...

sergeym1990 wrote...

I wonder how BioWare can fix this ending situation... Judging by what i read here, just adding more options may not be enought - entire last mission must be reworked...

I wonder if such a missive fix has ever been released for any game?

The Witcher and the Witcher 2 are two good examples of massive fixes and reworking gameplay to correct mistakes.  And that is from a small polish company.  If they can do it, Bioware most definitely can.

I have not completed these games. Did they chyanged plot/mission details after release?

[NYG1991]

I think the carnifex definitely needs to be nerfed. Shep destroys the reapers and the mass relays with just one clip. Imagine the damage it can do in multiplayer.

[msmpsn]

CajunRexShepard wrote...

I'm still in shock. It may take me a few days to complete another playthrough.

I was almost ready to accept an ending like this if you made a bad choice, in fact, I expected it.

I was ready to accept a good, bad, and 'middle of the road' option depending on your alignment, conversation choices, class, and LI all contributing to the ending you get, with a chance of a happily ever after and Shepard basically retiring. "Screw this, save your own galaxy next time." Or something.

But nothing of the sort. All three of the ending choices I saw are essentially the same- the one ray of hope is when stargazer claims there is 'one more story' which I PRAY means there is more to it- another DLC that fixes the horrid taste in my mouth that this ending just gave me.

As I stated in another thread- this felt to me like getting the opportunity to woo your dream girl (or guy, however you roll, not the point), have the most amazing physical and emotional experience of your LIFE with them, only for them to get up the moment it's all over, slap you, and walk off with their spouse- who just so happens to be someone you really hate. To top it off, your 'choice' to use protection and buy them the expensive dinner? Doesn't matter. Still turns out the same.

Do not get me wrong. I am not nerd raging against the game- over the course of this trilogy, it has been one of the BEST rides in my gaming career. I will not rant, curse, or demand anything, as in the end, I am but an end user, and not a developer.

What I also am, however, is a customer. A loyal fan, and an old timer who does not think it is too much to ask to have the 'warm fuzzy' ending that 40+ hours of game time per game in the trilogy should bring... That being said, I would, as many of the others here also have, *request* That some other DLC come down the pipe, and even if there cannot be a truly 'happy' ending, alter the three choices enough to where they do not seem like sad carbon copies of one another and all the choices you have made up to this point are largely irrelevant.

I would also be in favor of any other game in the ME universe, or new graphic novels (comix!) with the possible exception of MMO gaming. Who am I kidding, I would probably give that a try too.

Also- I would have liked to have gotten the chance to off TIM myself, not have him go all Saren on me and off himself when he finally 'sees the light' AKA Saren... right after running for the Conduit. I could have sworn I was on Ilos and not in London for that 3 or so minutes it took to make that run.

At any rate, as I cool off and hope that Buzz Aldrin Foreshadowing that the story may not yet be over is true, I will step off the soapbox and attempt to digest the extreme disappointment that I cannot help my Tali build her house on Rannoch, Can't go get drunk with Garrus, and Can't watch Joker and EDI... get very unnatural, and that Mordin, Legion, and Anderson aren't around to shake my hand and congratulate me on a job well done.

I agree with this completely. Hats off to you for typing this up.

[Biztip]

I'm still hoping this is just another "ballsy" DLC stunt from Bioware, the game was just too great, for such a mediocre fade to black.

[xDarkspace]

This could be like ff13-2 they made the real ending dlc mabye EA/Bioware are very smart and made a trap knowing that there would be outrage and they have alt ending dlc ready to go and this was all a plan to get more money.

[Never]

TheGoddess0fWar wrote...

I bawled all through the end of the game. Up until the last five minutes. Then I just felt sick.

This! Except I totally cried in the beginning too. And in the middle...

[John Locke N7]

i remember the last combat sequence. i remember and amazing rush to the firing the missle to kill that one reaper.

i think the build up to the conduit was to great. I was ready to re enter the citadel just like i had done in ME1, and beat this damn game....... but hey, atleast the gameplay portion ended ok.

i was left wanting more combat, so i guess as a video game is ended pretty damn well. as an interative movie...... it ended horribly

[EmCeeMendez]

I don't play Mass Effect to watch cutscenes that decide the fate of the galaxy. In fact, I play it to make my own decisions. To take that away in the last 30 minutes is delusional.

From a game development standpoint, be consistent. Butter us up with two games where our choices don't matter, and I'll expect and accept that from the third. If you give us two games with flexible ending narratives and the promise of more in the sequels, and then not deliver on those promises, we have issues.

To be clear, the cutscenes are not the issue. Sovereign died in a cutscene, the Council was saved in a cutscene, etc. Same for the destruction or neutron purge of the Collector Base. However, those cutscenes were triggered by earlier decisions I consciously made. In ME3, your decisions effect your ability to make it to the Citadel, and how many color choices the child gives you. After that, nothing else matters.

You saved the Rachni Queen? Good for you. Cured the Krogan Genophage? Yawn. You even stopped a 300 year old war between the Geth and the Quarians? Whoop de do.

God-Child doesn't care. He introduces you to three new flavors of vanilla.

It seems the God-child has taken control of the Mass Effect universe, and crushed all hope even more efficiently than the Reapers. He only needed 5 minutes.

[Faraborne]

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[DirtyBird627]

Here I thought the Baldur's Gate series was finally going to be bested as my favorite rpg series. Then some ghost kid VI with an illogical reason for destroying everything shows up and ruins it. Why can't Shepard just tell him to take a look around, all the races are working together including the Geth. And, if his solution to the problem (the reapers) is no longer necessary then why doesn't he just go away.

Really tho, the whole master VI thing was unnecessary, just make the Crucible the superweapon we were told it was, using it to disable the Reapers' barriers or something. So much potential, and such a great game, so sad that it is completely ruined by its last 5 minutes. It's fine if Shepard has to die, but I want him to die for a total win, not some Pyrrhic victory.

[Jaron Oberyn]

Harbinger of your Destiny wrote...

PoliteAssasin wrote...

Anyone notice they're locking threads about the endings being bad, telling them to come here so it can all be in one place? Yet they're not locking the duplicate threads talking about how the game was good, and telling them to stick it in one thread. Makes you think...

-Polite

If that were true this thread would have been locked a long time ago. No Chris is just keeping the boards relatively clean.

I hope that's sarcasm. 


-Polite

[blackeyes677]

sergeym1990 wrote...

blackeyes677 wrote...

sergeym1990 wrote...

I wonder how BioWare can fix this ending situation... Judging by what i read here, just adding more options may not be enought - entire last mission must be reworked...

I wonder if such a missive fix has ever been released for any game?

The Witcher and the Witcher 2 are two good examples of massive fixes and reworking gameplay to correct mistakes.  And that is from a small polish company.  If they can do it, Bioware most definitely can.

I have not completed these games. Did they chyanged plot/mission details after release?

I only played the wticher after the super-patch where they fixed mega-gameplay and loading time issues.  The wticher 2 is getting a mega-patch with several hours of gameplay due to the fact that the ending was too rushed.  my point is that it is not too difficult of a thing to do if an extremely small comapny can do something similar.

[Jackal7713]

Landline wrote...

Jackal7713 wrote...

The rage is only going to get worse, if Bioware doesn't say and do something. The unhappy fans list is only growing by the day. It would be nice to hear something from them.

I've heard the situation described as a cold war.

I think it's better described as a gas leak. The longer you let it sit, the more hazerdous the situation gets.

If this isn't addressed soon, you have people not only flaming in rage, but bioware sale numbers will fall along with any new pre-orders. Sure they will keep the doom and gloomers, however, all the ME fans will think twice before pre-ordering, buying games, and DLC. They'll think to themselve " Why should I buy anything from bioware after DA2 and ME3?" I hate saying it, but its true.

[Landline]

PoliteAssasin wrote...

I hope that's sarcasm. 


-Polite

In all fairness, there were a LOT of threads about the bad ending poping up, most with like ten relpies.

[JasonDaPsycho]

The story of Mass Effect 3 is a great example of style over substance. The plot is is quite cringeworthy at times. The whole Kai Leng and TIM knowing Shepard's next moves thing is just flat out annoying.

The presentation (good directing, phenomenal soundtrack and voice acting) made the story sound better than it is.

[GreenSoda]

PoliteAssasin wrote...

Harbinger of your Destiny wrote...

PoliteAssasin wrote...

Anyone notice they're locking threads about the endings being bad, telling them to come here so it can all be in one place? Yet they're not locking the duplicate threads talking about how the game was good, and telling them to stick it in one thread. Makes you think...

-Polite

If that were true this thread would have been locked a long time ago. No Chris is just keeping the boards relatively clean.

I hope that's sarcasm. 


-Polite

Why ? There are maybe 2 or 3 threads about liking the endings. There'd be about 30 threads disliking them. Directing everyone here makes sense.

[Renegade68]

I feel kind of... empty.

Playing these games got me through some rough times. I have replayed the first two over and over (over 10 times each) on every system available. I waited 4 and a half years to see how everything would conclude, based on the choices I have made. The way this game ended, I feel like my favorite series was completely undone. I don't care if Shepard dies or not, if it is done right. I want him to die or survive based on what I have done in all three games, not choose between three standard endings that I reach no matter what. I want to have that perfect ending if I have done everything right, instead of not having a chance at all. It should be hard to reach that, but not absolutely impossible. Even if Shepard has to die, I want to see that the galaxy is alright.  It seems like what I have done over the trilogy does not even matter.

There also is the matter of a "conclusion." What is going on with the Normandy? Why did it abandon me, and why is Garrus all fine after getting hit with Harbinger's beam? What is going to happen to all of the fleets surrounding Earth? What was going on with Halestorm? What about the Geth and the Quarians working together? Why didn't we even get to talk to a Reaper (I loved the scenes with Sovereign and Harbinger)? Why couldn't TIM or Harbinger have been the final bosses? There are so many questions left that I feel this is not the conclusion we were promised. I don't even want to play with my other Shepards because I feel I have nothing to care about.

There are very few times in life I have been so disappointed, I was so excited. Please fix this if you can. The game was so good and so emotional up to the final cutscene. I feel it was the most anti-climatic thing I have ever experienced in any form of entertainment.

Modifié par Renegade68, 10 mars 2012 - 07:30 .

[Rob8228]

TheGoddess0fWar wrote...

Alternate ending DLC?

Anyhing with the ending!

[Eirileth]

As I said... I don't think this is the real end. This is just the beginning of what will collectively be "Mass Effect 3". There will be DLC. And it will fix everything. I just can't see this being the end. Everything in the game was amazing and legitimate... Everything up until you get "shot" by Harbinger during your run to the beam. Everything after that very specific point looks like a dream. Throughout the game, Shepard has multiple dreams. The only difference between this one and the ones before it is that this one is much more detailed. But it is still a dream. If you choose the Destroy ending, it shows her waking back up... In concrete rubble. I'm pretty sure the Citadel isn't made of concrete. There will be DLC. And with this... I take my sadness and go to bed. Good night, Bioware. I hope you bring us a better tomorrow.