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DusksCrown

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Hell of a game, Bioware! Loved every single moment of it. But where's the ending? All I remember is Shepard is on the Citadel and nearly dead. TIM just killed himself and Anderson looks like he passed away. The platform glows and ascends with Shepard on it... Then blank. There seems to be a 15 minute missing gap in my memory afterwards.

Oh Bioware, very clever marketing ploy! Forcing us fans to pay an extra 10 bucks if we want to see the ending. Not sure if that's a great method for maintaining your reputation but we'll forgive you since you gave us such fantastic games (ME3 included). But seriously, mind giving us that ending you promised, Bioware? You know, that one that you claimed to be influenced by all our decisions in the past games? I'm sure we'd love to see a conclusion to one of your fan's favorite creations. Bioware? Are you there?






But seriously, please don't ruin the magic.

#15977
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DaftArbiter wrote...

So BW has told us that it'd be hard to get the best possible endings, but they always let us do with this game something that was unprecedented: if we made the right decisions, we could get the outcome we want. Huge spoilers ahead, you've been warned:









Current information states that regardless of which ending you choose, regardless of whether or not Shep lives or dies, the Normandy crew gets stranded on some random world without tech, Shepard will never see them again, and the galaxy by and large is completely boned for the next 200k years or so without any kind of good spacefaring tech.


To which I just want to say...why? After so many years of giving us control, why jerk it away from us at the last second just to force us to get a "bittersweet" ending. Not that I mind there being one present, and I'd use one in a playthrough, but not ALL my playthroughs.




tbh the noirmandy cant be all that far away from earth they were in in orbit fighting and dodging reepers hell the citedel was in orbit too so yeah they problably not too far away.

#15978
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Majandraja wrote...

MordiMoro wrote...

Ultra Prism wrote...

Just wait a couple of days after European fans finish playing ME3...they will come raging too...


We're already talking about our forum (I'm Italian) Image IPB


German Forum too is full of disappointed players who loved the game till the endings were presented to them. So yeah, you are not alone. Only sad thing is, that very seldom American developers seem to give a damn what players from other countries think.


Supposedly the devs are waiting for overseas reaction to gauge how they'll respond to this overwhelmingly negative response to the ending. So yes, please tell them how you feel.

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LotharanAeron wrote...

I finished the game about two hours ago and, like many others, it left me feeling really empty.  The mystical/philisophical stuff seemed to come out of nowhere at the end, and while I can appreciate of those sorts of influences, questions and decisions, the trilogy was never about that.  While throwing that at us takes us out of our comfort zone, it was just too jarring.

In the previous two games you always felt like you accomplished something, even if the universe got a lot darker after that victory.  We knew things would be rough in ME3, but we just beat the collector's and we're ready for the challenge.  In the ME3 endings there is nothing positive.  We knew the galaxy would be a dark place once the Reapers were defeated just because of all of the destruction they caused, but that we could meet that challenge because of the victory....only, that victory never happened.  There was no reward, no positive spin to overcoming this monumental challenge.  We, all of us Shepards, defeated an enemy that no other species over the course of millions of years could defeat, and in the end, there is nothing to celebrate.  That's what it killing me.  The magic of the Mass Effect universe was sucked out of it.  There was no hope in any ending, not even the synthesize ending because of how it is thrust upon you out of nowhere.

One of the characters said it best.  I can't remember who, either Tali or Liara I believe.  They send an email saying the greatest revenge against the Reapers is for things to be normal again.  THAT is what we were fighting for over all three games.  We were also fighting for the characters we formed bonds with.  Shepard may have fought for the galaxy but we fought so we would get to see another day with people like Garrus and Tali.  That was the power of this series, and all throughout ME3 there were the most amazing moments with those characters....until the end.

Finally, many have compared the ending choices to Human Revolution, and the similarity is quite obvious.  Regardless of people's opinion of the DX:HR endings, they were immensely better than ME3 simply because each ending cinematic was balanced.  They were dark, but contained hope, and while it made sense to get upset that the choices of the game didn't effect the ending, each ending in itself was relatively satisfying.  As many have said, the choices we get in ME3 have nothing to do with the key aspects of the game that made it so special.  Instead of feeling like a hero (me, the player), I felt like despondant because there never really was any saving the galaxy.  The "world" as we knew it was ending no matter what we did over the past 3 years (game time) or what we chose in that final moment.  Hope has been taken away.

 

Exactly.. each ending of Deus Ex:Hr is unqiuely very different  in its own way and conveys a different message. The problem with Mass Effect 3  endings is that they are all the same basically and they is no message or point to the climax. They wanted to be High minded and failed terriblely at it. It can be fixed becaue the frame work for its there... the problem is that it won't because  Bioware has always had this feeling of "Oh we can do no wrong." Then they try to pull a Gainix ending and fail miserablely at it..

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MordiMoro wrote...

Ultra Prism wrote...

Just wait a couple of days after European fans finish playing ME3...they will come raging too...


We're already talking about our forum (I'm Italian) Image IPB


In France too.

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Almostfaceman wrote...

Majandraja wrote...

MordiMoro wrote...

Ultra Prism wrote...

Just wait a couple of days after European fans finish playing ME3...they will come raging too...


We're already talking about our forum (I'm Italian) Image IPB


German Forum too is full of disappointed players who loved the game till the endings were presented to them. So yeah, you are not alone. Only sad thing is, that very seldom American developers seem to give a damn what players from other countries think.


Supposedly the devs are waiting for overseas reaction to gauge how they'll respond to this overwhelmingly negative response to the ending. So yes, please tell them how you feel.

I'm Thai; the asian race. And I can say for my fellow gamers that we're pissed.

#15982
Almostfaceman

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mitimai wrote...

I'm Thai; the asian race. And I can say for my fellow gamers that we're pissed.


Can't say I'm all that surprised. There's a reason so many people despise the ending, and it isn't some pre-calculated "we hate Bioware" troll attempt.

Modifié par Almostfaceman, 10 mars 2012 - 12:47 .


#15983
Bluumberry

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Almostfaceman wrote...

mitimai wrote...

I'm Thai; the asian race. And I can say for my fellow gamers that we're pissed.


Can't say I'm all that surprised. There's a reason so many people despise the ending, and it isn't some pre-calculated "we hate Bioware" troll attempt.


That brings up a good point. It's been quite the trend to hate on Bioware recently so getting our message across might be harder because of it.

#15984
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mitimai wrote...

Almostfaceman wrote...

Majandraja wrote...

MordiMoro wrote...

Ultra Prism wrote...

Just wait a couple of days after European fans finish playing ME3...they will come raging too...


We're already talking about our forum (I'm Italian) Image IPB


German Forum too is full of disappointed players who loved the game till the endings were presented to them. So yeah, you are not alone. Only sad thing is, that very seldom American developers seem to give a damn what players from other countries think.


Supposedly the devs are waiting for overseas reaction to gauge how they'll respond to this overwhelmingly negative response to the ending. So yes, please tell them how you feel.

I'm Thai; the asian race. And I can say for my fellow gamers that we're pissed.


austria, same here. met with a few other players yesterday. got too wasted to even stand, wasn't much point in doing anything else. just wanted to forget the whole thing ever happened.

#15985
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This dutch guy just wants to throw in his support for a better ending. I wanna make blue babies. Either that, or die just to get things back to whatever kind of normal is possible after such lenghts of destruction. This sucked donkey balls...

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MordiMoro

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A world reaction so strong is because we love Bioware and Mass Effect. :crying:

Modifié par MordiMoro, 10 mars 2012 - 12:53 .


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Please people keep it civil. If you haven't already I suggest you sign the petition. http://www.gopetitio...-dlc-patch.html

#15988
Bluumberry

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Sarz91 wrote...

Please people keep it civil. If you haven't already I suggest you sign the petition. http://www.gopetitio...-dlc-patch.html


Erm am I the only one who doesn't like any of those suggestions :P?

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Bioware, not all of your long term Mass Effect fans hate the ending. I've obsessed over all of the Mass Effect games and loved every second of Mass Effect 3, including the ending. I thought it was incredibly brave and a perfect resolution to Shepard's story, complete with a climactic decision that really makes you think about who you are as a person.

The only tiny detail about the ending that is bad in my opinion is the fact that somehow squadmates you took with you on the final assault could be seen getting off the Normandy at the end. This was jarring, but if it is just a glitch it is forgivable. Hopefully you can address this, or explain the context because it wasn't clear from the game itself.

#15990
Ultra Prism

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Thanks to European fans for sharing our view and sorry for that we all feeling utterly destroyed by abrupt and confusing ending

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I don't mind Shepard' dying, but the destructions of the mass relays, not showing scenes from the rebuilding ( really would like to see Tali planting a seed on Rannoch and the Geth on the background helping ), and the normandy's crash, is just a Big NO.

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Kloborgg711 wrote...

Knight Terror wrote...


Damn it, I just want my blue babies. .


Yes. Blow up Earth. Blow up the citadel. Hell, go ahead and destroy the entire civilization you made us love by blowing up the relays. But just one shot of Liara with Shepard's children... that would be incredible. We're really not asking for that much.


I waited two games for their marriage old age, and lots of little blue children. Don't take that in a way that I wanna see more blue alien sex, which would be cool, but I really just wanted to see them living a happy life together after the war.
I mean, even like a sunset shot of shep and LI would be acceptable.

Modifié par purplehaybusa, 10 mars 2012 - 01:10 .


#15993
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You know you can like the ending but to call Bioware's ending "brave" and "perfect" is a blatant attempt to rile the rightly POd fanbase, if you like it, fine, but don't try to brown nose the company - call out the faults. Think! We've been over this.

1. Why was the Normandy in transit so far away from Sol?
2. Who made the Catalyst?
3. What were the repercussions of my actions? (curing genophage/faking the curing of the genophage, saving rachni queen/leaving rachni queen to die, et cetera)
4. Why can you not point out the obviously wrong conclusion of the Catalyst or resolve things in the end in a manner that actually FITS Shepard? Paragon Shepard would use deadly logic and Renegade would simply destroy the Reaper controls with his Gun of Cutscene Instadeath.
5. How can Joker be so violently jerked around in the nonsensical crash without being seriously hurt?

and 6: what's with the forced transhuman aesop?

#15994
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For me, no matter what a player wants, the writers are their own and rightly so.
We can not have everything, but nothing even...
This!!!!
Michael Gamble : "There are many different endings. We wouldn’t do it any other way. How could you go through all three campaigns playing as your Shepard and then be forced into a bespoke ending that everyone gets?"

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Russian fans are pissed off too.

#15996
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I guess i've been spoiled by sci-fi series like star gate, star trek voyager and TNG, farscape. fantasy series like lord of the rings and harry potter. Each of these series often deal with impossible situations, but somehow there is still a happy ending coming out of the ruins of a s*** fight that should have been unwinnable. So I guess yeah, I would like a happy ending. I don't see what is wrong with that.

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I came to the conclusion that Joker is flying away at the end trying to avoid the totally f**ked ending. He didnt want to be associated with it so he flew as hard as he could but he just couldnt avoid it.

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Xellith wrote...

I came to the conclusion that Joker is flying away at the end trying to avoid the totally f**ked ending. He didnt want to be associated with it so he flew as hard as he could but he just couldnt avoid it.


lol, its the only explanation. shame the poor guy didn't manage it.

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Arllekin wrote...

I don't mind Shepard' dying, but the destructions of the mass relays, not showing scenes from the rebuilding ( really would like to see Tali planting a seed on Rannoch and the Geth on the background helping ), and the normandy's crash, is just a Big NO.

Thumbs up my man I totally agree with this.
I too don't mind Shepard's death, but the whole thing about either way you choose you destroy the mass relays and pretty much just screwed every colony in the galaxy, it doesn't gel with my view of what should have happened.
I mean you choose to sacrifice your shep which saves the majority of tech including the reapers and the citadel their just under your control, and yet somehow the mass relays are destroyed.
Every other reaper tech is fine and dandy but some mystical power decided to see fit that the relays be destroyed, it's like did you even bother checking that the logic of it was correct? and for those who might say the relays are different well then why didn't the citadel explode too because if I remember correctly the citadel is also a giant mass relay which is how the reapers easily destroyed civilizations before.

oh and I'm an Aussie who's saying bioware at the very least needs to rethink the logic behind their story and at best give me the sunshine and rainbows ending that my shepard deserves

Modifié par worldwide, 10 mars 2012 - 01:15 .


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deathscythe517 wrote...

You know you can like the ending but to call Bioware's ending "brave" and "perfect" is a blatant attempt to rile the rightly POd fanbase, if you like it, fine, but don't try to brown nose the company - call out the faults. Think! We've been over this.

1. Why was the Normandy in transit so far away from Sol?
2. Who made the Catalyst?
3. What were the repercussions of my actions? (curing genophage/faking the curing of the genophage, saving rachni queen/leaving rachni queen to die, et cetera)
4. Why can you not point out the obviously wrong conclusion of the Catalyst or resolve things in the end in a manner that actually FITS Shepard? Paragon Shepard would use deadly logic and Renegade would simply destroy the Reaper controls with his Gun of Cutscene Instadeath.
5. How can Joker be so violently jerked around in the nonsensical crash without being seriously hurt?

and 6: what's with the forced transhuman aesop?


Dont forget
- Why was a party member who charged the beam with me on the normandy 10 minutes after.  I mean why would they be on the ship?  Thats ignoring the fact there was a massive battle going on and the entire force got wiped out surrounded by reapers.  How the hell would they even get to the normandy?

God the ending was sooooooo bad.