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[Flammenpanzer]

slipliker wrote...

hawat333 wrote...

The concept of the ending itself wasn't bad.
Shepard saves life.
That's what matters.
That's what the story was about.
There are some issues and even illogical scenes (characters showing up who can't be there if they didn't learn how to teleport and things like that) that could use fixing, but the ending itself wasn't half bad.
It was good.

Are you serious? I mean what the...
Giving life? They are right where they were - 50 000 years back with no civilizations and no mass relays in nowhere! Makes no difference - the Reapers could destroy everyone as well and the cycle would go on again...
P.S. I don't think Shepard fits in a role of a "hero sacrificing himself". More like a "f**k everyone, save the galaxy and live ever happily since."

Think of the confusion of all the other races, Shepard would be a monster. If nobody heard that the reapers were defeated, and solar systems exploded due to relays exploding, he literally just ended 99% of civilized life.

[Kia Purity]

It's quite telling that how many of us (from different countries to boot) are *this* outraged over the endings. "Few", eh, Bioware?

[TamiBx]

GBGriffin wrote...

WarBaby2 wrote...

KyUuAbI wrote...
Hate to be the one to say this but shepard wasent with the normandy in any of the endigns so Nope.avi

S/He wasn't, ha?... We don't see WHERE s/he was, if s/he suvived... we just see stones and rubble... could be a jungle too. Also: We see Joker trying to flee... whant we don't see is who else he might have picked up BEFORE turning tail...

Many possibilities there...

Still... questionable source is questionable.^^

Shepard was pretty heavily injured. I doubt (s)he'd be flung from the Citadel to a jungle planet, even Earth, under some rubble after picking Destroy.

I mean, when it comes down to it, you're choosing to believe an anonymous poster at 4chan because (s)he claims to be a BioWare developer with an inside scoop.

Think of how ridiculous that sounds and determine how questionable that source really is.

Someone did post spoilers for the ending of ME3 on 4chan(long before the game came out) and I did not believe her/him at the time, but whatever (s)he said was real (that one post saying the 3 options and who die or not at ME3). After a while, the thread was taken down by someone and only the screenprint/info was left (talking about this:  http://i.imgur.com/ZwtSO.jpg)

But this one souds a little...odd. Well, I guess we have to wait and see. They DID say there will be a DLC in some interview before the game came out, so we will hear from them sooner or later. 

[Darkwingduck]

The ending reminds me a bit of the end of Deus Ex: Human Revolution. Do you know what the difference is? I didn't give a flying f*** what happened to Adam Jensen...none what so freaking ever. Do you know who I do care about? Shepard.

[wicked_being]

Annaleah wrote...

MOELANDER wrote...

juggernautze wrote...

Canadian Tundra Engineering Corps reporting for duty.

German Pioneer Corps standing by!

Vermont Hippie potheads standing by for- ... wait what are we doing again?

Singapore Strike Team reporting in. We're few but give us a few days and we'll have more recruits.


Man...just a week ago everyone was telling us (on this very thread) to stop whining. Look at all the supporters now *tear*

[Esker02]

Just finished the game last night, and I was sure I had received the "bad" ending. Feeling really depressed, out of curiosity, and perhaps against my better judgment, I looked into how to get the good ending and what it might be.

Only to find out that I already got it, if it can even be called that. Wow. This one seriously hurts. Hurts bad. Mass Effect was a series, was a universe, was a band of characters that deserved so much more, and I, the player who has followed everything ME for, what, over five years now, am unable to provide the conclusion that, not only I want, but that the universe and characters deserved. Instead I'm left confused by the writing (in the worst way) and deeply, deeply hurt.

I really don't know what to say. Mass Effect a few days ago for me was a universe with limitless possibility, with a rich lore and culture all its own. Equally important, it had characters that I loved, and stories I loved revisiting. The question "Mass Effect or Star Wars" used to give me pause. And then this. Why would you build a series, a multi-year saga and epic, around an emotional investment in comrades, love interests, and in the galactic community at large, only to have no possible ending in which any one of those three, let alone all of them, as I'd have preferred, are saved? 

I can understand making sacrifices to beat the Reapers. I had done that with Mordin, Thane, Ashley... each hurt. I was prepared to make another decision like that again, or watch an event unfold like that again. But this wasn't sacrifice. This was defeat. "You sacrificed too much."

I would gladly pay just to get a proper ending to the series. It deserves nothing less. Some people might be miserly and staunchly declare they wouldn't buy it, or it's bad business, or what have you. I don't care. This isn't just some random title, this is the culmination of so much investment, in time, in emotion, in debate and in enjoyment, for so many of us fans. How could I ever play this game again, or the first two games again? How could I ever build a relationship that felt even the slightest bit lasting with any companion knowing how everything is going to go? The whole strength of the series is undermined. All those hollow promises about life after the Reapers to everybody, throughout the series... the thought of emptily going through those motions is enough to make me cringe.

Mass Effect meant... means a lot to us, the fans. I only wish there was some evidence it had meant a lot to the writers as well.

Modifié par Esker02, 10 mars 2012 - 06:49 .

[Troglyte]

Ashley or Alenko?
Ahsley or Liera?
Save the council?
Miranda, Jack or Tali?
Samara or Morinth?
Destroy the Colector's base?
Etc... and your other choice???
Would you like blue, green or red with your glaxy wide destruction of the only thing that unites it after you've united it?
WTF! Are you fracking kidding me? A victory that tastes of naught but bitter ashes, go frick your self, you're monsters akin to cerberus.

[laughing sherpa girl]

Annaleah wrote...

MOELANDER wrote...

juggernautze wrote...

Canadian Tundra Engineering Corps reporting for duty.

German Pioneer Corps standing by!

Vermont Hippie potheads standing by for- ... wait what are we doing again?

ROFLMAO::  getting a better ending.. Have a toke and hang on. its been a real ride.

[ArbitorEAAcc]

Flammenpanzer wrote...

slipliker wrote...

hawat333 wrote...

The concept of the ending itself wasn't bad.
Shepard saves life.
That's what matters.
That's what the story was about.
There are some issues and even illogical scenes (characters showing up who can't be there if they didn't learn how to teleport and things like that) that could use fixing, but the ending itself wasn't half bad.
It was good.

Are you serious? I mean what the...
Giving life? They are right where they were - 50 000 years back with no civilizations and no mass relays in nowhere! Makes no difference - the Reapers could destroy everyone as well and the cycle would go on again...
P.S. I don't think Shepard fits in a role of a "hero sacrificing himself". More like a "f**k everyone, save the galaxy and live ever happily since."

Think of the confusion of all the other races, Shepard would be a monster. If nobody heard that the reapers were defeated, and solar systems exploded due to relays exploding, he literally just ended 99% of civilized life.

But we know that life wasn't wiped out because of the relays being destroied this way. I think what the citadel did was overcharge them, not cause enough structural damage that throws off the energy stabilization systems (That big spinny ring thing in the middle of the relays) if that was all the energy stored in the relay and the field was destroied then yes, but we see that the relays effectively shoot the energy to the next relay which cascades outward. The energy is probally at its end by the time it hits the far side of the galaxy.

Wonder what it does to the Omega-4 relay >_>

[Flammenpanzer]

TamiBx wrote...

GBGriffin wrote...

WarBaby2 wrote...

KyUuAbI wrote...
Hate to be the one to say this but shepard wasent with the normandy in any of the endigns so Nope.avi

S/He wasn't, ha?... We don't see WHERE s/he was, if s/he suvived... we just see stones and rubble... could be a jungle too. Also: We see Joker trying to flee... whant we don't see is who else he might have picked up BEFORE turning tail...

Many possibilities there...

Still... questionable source is questionable.^^

Shepard was pretty heavily injured. I doubt (s)he'd be flung from the Citadel to a jungle planet, even Earth, under some rubble after picking Destroy.

I mean, when it comes down to it, you're choosing to believe an anonymous poster at 4chan because (s)he claims to be a BioWare developer with an inside scoop.

Think of how ridiculous that sounds and determine how questionable that source really is.

Someone did post spoilers for the ending of ME3 on 4chan(long before the game came out) and I did not believe her/him at the time, but whatever (s)he said was real (that one post saying the 3 options and who die or not at ME3). After a while, the thread was taken down by someone and only the screenprint/info was left (talking about this:  http://i.imgur.com/ZwtSO.jpg)

But this one souds a little...odd. Well, I guess we have to wait and see. They DID say there will be a DLC in some interview before the game came out, so we will hear from them sooner or later. 

Grabing at straws...I want to believe it too. Normandy rebuild DLC would be pretty kick-ass,  but remember the Grandfather and Kid on jungle planet? They did not go anywhere.

And...without manfucaturing, how would you even repair the ship? You cannot just simply make enginies from raw resources.
Cup, Bowl, that is one thing...FTL engines, yeah right.

Misread that.

Modifié par Flammenpanzer, 10 mars 2012 - 06:51 .

[Annie_Dear]

Esker02 wrote...

Just finished the game last night, and I was sure I had received the "bad" ending. Feeling really depressed, out of curiosity, and perhaps against my better judgment, I looked into how to get the good ending and what it might be.

Only to find out that I already got it, if it can even be called that. Wow. This one seriously hurts. Hurts bad. Mass Effect was a series, was a universe, was a band of characters that deserved so much more, and I, the player who has followed everything ME for, what, over five years now, am unable to provide the conclusion that, not only I want, but that the universe and characters deserved. Instead I'm left confused by the writing (in the worst way) and deeply, deeply hurt.

I really don't know what to say. Mass Effect a few days ago for me was a universe with limitless possibility, with a rich lore and culture all its own. Equally important, it had characters that I loved, and stories I loved revisiting. The question "Mass Effect or Star Wars" used to give me pause. And then this. Why would you build a series, a multi-year saga and epic, around an emotional investment in comrades, love interests, and in the galactic community at large, only to have no possible ending in which any one of those three, let alone all of them, as I'd have preferred, are saved? 

I can understand making sacrifices to beat the Reapers. I had done that with Mordin, Thane, Ashley... each hurt. I was prepared to make another decision like that again, or watch an event unfold like that again. But this wasn't sacrifice. This was defeat. "You sacrificed too much."

I would gladly pay just to get a proper ending to the series. It deserves nothing less. Some people might be miserly and staunchly declare they wouldn't buy it, or it's bad business, or what have you. I don't care. This isn't just some random title, this is the culmination of so much investment, in time, in emotion, in debate and in enjoyment, for so many of us fans. How could I ever play this game again, or the first two games again? How could I ever build a relationship that felt even the slightest bit lasting with any companion knowing how everything is going to go? The whole strength of the series is undermined. All those hollow promises about life after the Reapers to everybody, throughout the series... the thought of emptily going through those motions is enough to make me cringe.

Mass Effect meant... means a lot to us, the fans. I only wish there was some evidence it had meant a lot to the writers as well.

[slipliker]

TamiBx wrote...

But this one souds a little...odd. Well, I guess we have to wait and see. They DID say there will be a DLC in some interview before the game came out, so we will hear from them sooner or later. 

Well, could it be that they've been talking about "From Ashes" DLC? I mean it's right there and the informatiion about it was leaked... I'm not so sure, though.

[zomg830]

If Peter Jackson and New Line Cinema can do a massive re-release of the Lord of the Rings movies and add in about an hour of extra footage per movie and still return a profit from such an action, then there should be very little stopping BiowEAr (absolutely horrible pun, I know) from creating a 5-10 minute epilogue to this game. It just really irks me that this could be the series that elevates the entire video game industry from simple mindless shooty-shooty pew-pew abominations to a truly expressive and mature medium. Sadly, this could not be accomplished. I could write volumes about how the Mass Effect series has given me unique emotions that I have never experienced within any other medium, no book, no movie, no painting has ever strained me more emotionally than the final chapter in this series. In short, Bioware has ruined an incredibly unique opportunity to solidify the Mass Effect series as one of the greatest sci-fi trilogies of all time. HMPH!!! >:[

[tausra]

Anyone else think we could make a case for PTSD induced by emotional trauma? Honestly, look it up, the symptoms of it are all over the forum.

[GBGriffin]

TamiBx wrote...

Someone did post spoilers for the ending of ME3 on 4chan(long before the game came out) and I did not believe her/him at the time, but whatever (s)he said was real (that one post saying the 3 options and who die or not at ME3). After a while, the thread was taken down by someone and only the screenprint/info was left (talking about this: http://i.imgur.com/ZwtSO.jpg)

But this one souds a little...odd. Well, I guess we have to wait and see. They DID say there will be a DLC in some interview before the game came out, so we will hear from them sooner or later.

I guess it's unfair of me to just write off anything from 4chan as false, but if you read through that post, the dead giveaway is that Shepard isn't in the jungle; (s)he is critically wounded on the Citadel with no easy access off of it. Also, everything promised is everything that people have been saying they would like or expect. It seems way too calculated to the hopes for DLC that are already out there.

Modifié par GBGriffin, 10 mars 2012 - 06:54 .

[TamiBx]

DifferentD17 wrote...

TamiBx wrote...

DifferentD17 wrote...

slipliker wrote...

The endings suck, but I gotta give Bioware credit.
The music playing while the video goes on is excellent. I mean all the flashbacks (especially with Liara, and there's a little mood change in the music) are so... Well, sad. Sad, but... I don't know, how to express it.
...Nevermind. Wanted to say that the composition fits the flashbacks excellently.
Just go and watch the first 30 seconds of the ending with the flashbacks.
But still. I want the endings to be full of hope and light and life.

Flashbacks sucked if you didn't romance liara, ashley or Kaiden.

I read somewhere that that is a bug, actually. It was supposed to show whoever your LI was, but for some reason it only worked for ME1 LIs. 

The Spacer edition guy said he ripped the files and there isn't any files about any other LIs soooo No they just didn't make them...
Lol ME3 was supposed to have alot of things...

Then this is plain stupid. Another mistake they made...

And hey! It DID offer a lot of choices. You get to pick how you want your Shepard to die: Blue, red or green light. Your pick. 

[slipliker]

Esker02 wrote...

Just finished the game last night, and I was
sure I had received the "bad" ending. Feeling really depressed, out of
curiosity, and perhaps against my better judgment, I looked into how to
get the good ending and what it might be.

Only to find out that
I already got it, if it can even be called that. Wow. This one seriously
hurts. Hurts bad. Mass Effect was a series, was a universe, was a band
of characters that deserved so much more, and I, the player who has
followed everything ME for, what, over five years now, am unable to
provide the conclusion that, not only I want, but that the universe and
characters deserved. Instead I'm left confused by the writing (in the
worst way) and deeply, deeply hurt.

I really don't know what to
say. Mass Effect a few days ago for me was a universe with limitless
possibility, with a rich lore and culture all its own. Equally
important, it had characters that I loved, and stories I loved
revisiting. The question "Mass Effect or Star Wars" used to give me
pause. And then this. Why would you build a series, a multi-year saga
and epic, around an emotional investment in comrades, love interests,
and in the galactic community at large, only to have no possible ending
in which any one of those three, let alone all of them, as I'd have
preferred, are saved? 

I can understand making sacrifices to beat
the Reapers. I had done that with Mordin, Thane, Ashley... each hurt. I
was prepared to make another decision like that again, or watch an
event unfold like that again. But this wasn't sacrifice. This was
defeat. "You sacrificed too much."

I would gladly pay just to
get a proper ending to the series. It deserves nothing less. Some people
might be miserly and staunchly declare they wouldn't buy it, or it's
bad business, or what have you. I don't care. This isn't just some
random title, this is the culmination of so much investment, in time, in
emotion, in debate and in enjoyment, for so many of us fans. How could
I ever play this game again, or the first two games again? How could
I ever build a relationship that felt even the slightest bit lasting
with any companion knowing how everything is going to go? The whole
strength of the series is undermined. All those hollow promises about
life after the Reapers to everybody, throughout the series... the
thought of emptily going through those motions is enough to make me
cringe.

Mass Effect meant... means a lot to us, the fans. I only wish there was some evidence it had meant a lot to the writers as well.

Bravo, good sir!

[Goddy10]

Having read a fair bit of this thread, and experienced a weird variant on the ending (Destroyed Reapers, Saved Earth, Shephard dead....then no squad mates shown in Jungle?) I have to say, I think there is much more to this then meets the eye.

Biowares silence is telling. Time will be their final judge.

[jinx_60]

I have to say, with all the talk about an alternate ending DLC, that I honestly don't believe that will EVER happen.
Of course I'm hoping it will, but realistically I doubt we'll see anything of the sort. They've made their money, and all the major DLC is already in the works, if not done already.

[Goodwood]

The Escapist Podcast is discussing these very issues, starting at 15:30 and continuing through 44:20:

Escapist Podcast

[TamiBx]

slipliker wrote...

TamiBx wrote...

But this one souds a little...odd. Well, I guess we have to wait and see. They DID say there will be a DLC in some interview before the game came out, so we will hear from them sooner or later. 

Well, could it be that they've been talking about "From Ashes" DLC? I mean it's right there and the informatiion about it was leaked... I'm not so sure, though.

Now that you mention it, it might be. I didn't pay too much attention to it at the time because they promised us a closure at the end of ME3, so all I thought was "who cares about DLC? I want my game"  

[DifferentD17]

tausra wrote...

Anyone else think we could make a case for PTSD induced by emotional trauma? Honestly, look it up, the symptoms of it are all over the forum.

Wow... yes...

"avoidance of stimuli associated with the trauma."

I almost want nothing to do with ME, but I need to fight for a better ending...

[thormir]

Annaleah wrote...

Anijunkie wrote...

anyone know if that 'secret ending' at the end of the New Game+ worth going through? I'm a good 7 hours in hoping it's even slightly better.

Man, after all those bugs, crashes, and hard resets on my PS3, I get a choice of what color the mass relays are when they blow up? like really? My system pretty much goes through hell and I get this piece of crap ending? at the very least let me punch the kid in the face before I make my choice...

I honestly don't think anyone here managed to get the secret ending because they (like me) were all too traumitized to go back and play a second time.

the secret sneding is attained if you play it twice or import you mass effect 2 shep and attain 5k or more war assets stop spreading the false hope rumor

[Ameno Xiel]

Esker02 wrote...

...

So true.

[tausra]

Some symptoms I've seen:
Difficulty falling or staying asleep
Irritability or outbursts of anger
Restricted range of affect (e.g., unable to have loving feelings)
Markedly diminished interest or participation in significant activities
Feeling of detachment or estrangement from others