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#16551
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Okay, so I started playing Mass Effect because my friend recommended it to me when ME1 first came out.

My friend played ME1 because it was made by Bioware and Bioware made Knights of the Old Republic.

She played Knights of the Old Republic because she loved Star Wars.

Thus this entire crap ending is George Lucas fault.

Flawless logic.

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rekkoi wrote...

I haven't checked the forum in a few hours. Aside from the tweet @GambleMike made a few minutes ago, has anyone else from Bioware said anything at all?

Nope.

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Lexagg wrote...

Mhgasa wrote...

In all fairness, they have a lose/lose situation.
If they say anything it will etiher hurt sales (by aknowledgeing the problem) or ****** people off even more(dismissing the community concerns).
At the moment they are probably using the standard method for damage control. Stay silent and hope it dies out and if it doesnt then they will make an official statement. So anything official is still way off, especially considering that they have already planned their dlc, so an epilogue dlc or smt similar is not something they can have out anytime soon.


Yeah, they will probably strat taking this seriously once they see the lolsales of the Omega DLC they have planned.


I just dont understand what the sense of them making DLC's is. Yeah, i know, all the DLC's happen before the ending. just like the game continuance. Who the hell wants to do that?? They wanna make DLC's? Then they shouldnt have killed the game, and totally pissed off the community. Since they want to force us into playing mlti-player, i can only imagine thats where the DLC's are headed. but even there, I was there as the mass exodus from SWTOR started and held onto my own hopes, but now, its pretty confirmed that bioware has gone beyond the pale, and no longer care about the very people or things that made them great. 
I seriously hope they prove me wrong.

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Faraborne wrote...
This may already have been shared, but this guy is spot on: http://www.ign.com/b...em-the-trilogy/


You know what? That's the reason the ending feels so lackluster!

The whole game is about build up... preparing for the final battle... while it should have been about the reaper war it self, and when the ending finally comes, all this preparation doesn't even really count. All that counts is this cryptic EMS number, and all that does is funnel the whole story into one ending.

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Chilling thought...

What if this is all an EA ploy to combat piracy, and their wave of the future is you buy the first half of the game, and then after activation you can download the second half?

*shudders and hunts for beer*

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I've posted on this erm post many times saying I don't mind the endings. Then I actually saw the endings. I still don't mind the sacrifice, or the relays exploding. After all makes sense, the Reapers made them after all. However the Normandy WTF was that? It left the battle? The whole crew which were in London WITH ME LEFT THE BATTLEFIELD IN THE MIDDLE OF THE BLOODY BATTLE!!??? I wouldn't of noticed this if I wouldn't have brought James with me on the final part. I'm not going to **** all over Bioware however because that's not going to get me anywhere... I'm simply asking for some answers. ALSO I never figured out what the origin of the Reapers were. I may not have been paying enough attention, but it never stated their origin. Also the reason the catalyst gave us was asinine to say the least. The geth were the contradiction to that. Other than that I didn't mind it. :DDDD

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Are the main polls being passed around the international boards as well? Mayhaps with a quick translation?

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FugitiveMind wrote...

Chilling thought...

What if this is all an EA ploy to combat piracy, and their wave of the future is you buy the first half of the game, and then after activation you can download the second half?

*shudders and hunts for beer*

I will give them an unreasonable amount of money for the choice to have a decent ending.  I hate myself for saying that, but it's the truth.  Just let me have my favorite series back.

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Blashyrkh020 wrote...

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MissNet wrote...

Inspection of BSN forces in progress. 
Take back the endings!
We are going to fight with rEApers!

United Kigdom - 400
United States of America - 500
- Pittsburgh Steelers heavy infantry/Pittsburgh Steelers Iron Curtian - 100
- Southwest Missouri angry republican 50
- Southern Overwatch - 80
- Special Ops - 100
- Vermont Hippie potheads - 50

German - 200
- German Pioneer Corps - 50

Canada - 400
- Saskatchewan mechanical division - 50
- SSV Guelph - 50
- Atlantic Canadian fleet reporting in - 140
- Edmonton Blood Dragons - 150
- Canadian Tundra Engineering Corps - 50
Poland - 100
Czech - 100
- Czech Science Crew - 50
Australia - 150
Slovak fleet is going to join us - 100
Swedish fleet - 100Brazilia - 200

Russian fleets - 300
- Russian Destroyers - 50

Scottish fleet reporting in - 100
Argentinian Fleet - 150
Singapore Strike Team - 100
Hoosier Cruiser - 20
Oregon Engineering Section reporting in - 20
Glaswegian Battalions - 20
Spanish & Latin Fleets in - 150 (estimate needed)
Lone Turkish Frigate - 10
Tamcia' Frigate - 10
SSV VyR - 25

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4125 WA 



Siberian Special Task Forces are at your service


Pacific Northwest Hipster Batallion reporting in!



Czech Bio-engineering Unit ready for service. Lets run tests on some sea shells!

Also eat Mac Walters.


Vancouver Island Covert Ops reporting for duty!

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Kloborgg711 wrote...

Mhgasa wrote...

A good way of not making them listen is to continue the bullying style of complaining, which has become the norm on BSN. I really think that we need to keep things civil and constructive, Taking a dump on the entire game because of the last minutes is not really being constructive. But i guess thats a naive hope, considering that this is the internet :)



Giving the typical responses of gaming communities, I actually think the thoughts expressed in this thread are REMARKABLY civil over all. We could easily have had tons of these "LOL BIOWARE U SUCK I h8 U NEVR BUYING ANOTHER BIOWARE GAEM" comments, but I haven't seen any yet. People are expressing frustration and sometimes anger, but they have the right to. I think everyone here agrees that the reason they're so ticked is BECAUSE they love the game so damn much.


I do agree that this thread has stayed mostly on topic. I Have seens lots and lots of threads that were created where its way over the top. I definitely agree that people are upset because they care, and thats a tribute to the characters and story that bioware have created which is something they should realise amongst all the negatives about the endings. If we didnt enjoy the journey we wouldnt be here now asking questions. I have loved the me universe from day one, and the epilogue was just such an anticlimax and i hope they can accomodate us in some way.

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TamiBx wrote...

MordiMoro wrote...

Gintama007 wrote...

Michael Gamble just posted this on Twitter "By the way... I am reading all of your thoughts. Just not ready to comment yet."


Please remember this Mr. Gamble?

"There are many different endings. We wouldn’t do it any other way. How could you go through all three campaigns playing as your Shepard and then be forced into a bespoke ending that everyone gets?"

"A lot of the satisfaction comes out of the choices you've made. When a story concludes a certain way, the way it concluded was in part because of the choices you made. And that kind of ups the replayability."

Michael Gamble



He also said:
In reply to his tweet about how we would hold on to our ME3 copies if we knew what Bioware is planning, someone mentioned the dlc and the 4chan post that says there will be dlcs. Then he said this:

"yes, but I never said anything about DLC, let alone a love interest one..."


Soo...they know the problem is there, but they're not promising to fix it...? Or is he just denying the nature of the dlc?


Normally, I would love a romance DLC. Any excuse to see more cute scenes between my Shepard and Tali.

Now, honestly, I just don't care. Since, unless that fix that ending, EVERYTHING that happens prior is rendered completely meaningless. Or, that's how I feel, anyway.

I never thought anything could quell my Tali love... and yet here we are.

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Experimentel wrote...

Faraborne wrote...

Inspection of BSN forces in progress. 
Take back the endings!
We are going to fight with rEApers!

United Kigdom - 400
United States of America - 500
- Pittsburgh Steelers heavy infantry/Pittsburgh Steelers Iron Curtian - 100
- Southwest Missouri angry republican 50
- Southern Overwatch - 80
- Special Ops - 100
- Vermont Hippie potheads - 50

German - 200
- German Pioneer Corps - 50

Canada - 400
- Saskatchewan mechanical division - 50
- SSV Guelph - 50
- Atlantic Canadian fleet reporting in - 140
- Edmonton Blood Dragons - 150
- Canadian Tundra Engineering Corps - 50
Poland - 100
Czech - 100
- Czech Science Crew - 50
Australia - 150
Slovak fleet is going to join us - 100
Swedish fleet - 100Brazilia - 200

Russian fleets - 300
- Russian Destroyers - 50

Scottish fleet reporting in - 100
Argentinian Fleet - 150
Singapore Strike Team - 100
Hoosier Cruiser - 20
Oregon Engineering Section reporting in - 20
Glaswegian Battalions - 20
Spanish & Latin Fleets in - 150 (estimate needed)
Lone Turkish Frigate - 10
Tamcia' Frigate - 10
SSV VyR - 25

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4125 WA 



Californian League of Video Game Parties reporting in! 


You forgot the Oregon Engineer Section in the United States assets.

#16563
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been here since the beginning on this thread spreading the word but the US cavalry scouts are reporting in from kentucky

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Kitten Tactics wrote...

Are the main polls being passed around the international boards as well? Mayhaps with a quick translation?

I don't know if the poll is being pass around, but what I can gather from the other forums is that they are also displeased with the ending.  Surprise surprise.

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MordiMoro wrote...

Gintama007 wrote...

Michael Gamble just posted this on Twitter "By the way... I am reading all of your thoughts. Just not ready to comment yet."


Please remember this Mr. Gamble?

"There are many different endings. We wouldn’t do it any other way. How could you go through all three campaigns playing as your Shepard and then be forced into a bespoke ending that everyone gets?"

"A lot of the satisfaction comes out of the choices you've made. When a story concludes a certain way, the way it concluded was in part because of the choices you made. And that kind of ups the replayability."

Michael Gamble


I expect we will get the answer after monday,  with a major release like ME3 many of the employees take time off and go on a mini vacation before starting on their next project.  This seems like something they need to talk over among the project heads.

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I personally think Shepard's last, sharp breath is for an Irenicus Quote: "To end... Like THIS?!"

Seriously though, I finished ME1 at least 15 times. I ran at least 30 ME2 full playthroughs because I was emotionally invested in Shepard, the crew, the entire fraggin' universe.

I "fought" to save those people. To let them rebuild, to let them all emerge from the ashes of destruction, either in peace or at war over the few remaining resources. But first and foremost, I FOUGHT so they could see another day and preserve the galaxy. They deserve a big fraggin' party and Shep deserves a big fraggin' speech from the (new) leaders of the universe, no matter if she lived to see it.

Now, I fought for:
A. Destroy everything, green version.
B. Destroy everything, blue version.
C. Destroy everything, red version.

I feel lke I saved squat. I feel like I could just have let sovereign have his victory in part one, not much difference from the ending we got.

I actually love this franchise, otherwise I would not have gone to this forum to express my feelings. Something you see a lot on the WoW forums is "Well, we hear you, but loads of players think it's fine, you guys here a minority" and I think that holds true. I played WoW for a long time. I never posted on the forums then, despite of all the things I did not agree with, and man, did I love that game. I just love this game more, I love Shepard more than that.
Shepard and the galaxy deserve more than this. For once, just this once, I'm going to add my voice to this case, I want real closure. Hollywood happy endings may be corny, but after all this, I think Shepard, but at least the known galaxy, deserves a corny happy ending.

So in short, Dutch Engineering Team, reporting in.

Modifié par MoirDing, 10 mars 2012 - 08:07 .


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The way I imagin the ending is the same up until Hackett calls.  In mine you pass out next to Anderson, the Crubicle sends out a signal that deactivates the Reapers, the signal travels througout the mass relays (without destroying them) deactivating everyreaper in the galaxy.  After that you would get an epiloge kind of like in Dragon Age: Origions that tells you how your desicions affected the galaxy.

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All I can think of when I see the endings is.. "Critical Mission Failure" Sorry Bioware, you need to reload and play it again.

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Kloborgg711 wrote...
"Congratulations! You slightly changed a galactic cycle! Undoubtedly billions more will die as galactic civilization is set back tens of thousands of years, in addition to the trillions who already sacrificed themselves, but we'll leave that to your imagination! No, your Shepard will never get anything resembling a real reward for all his hard work, nor will he ever get to spend any more time with his friends or love interest. But hey, at least we vaguely establish that in an untold future your legend becomes a vague forgotten myth in a society were space-faring technology is apparently still a fantasy! Isn't that what you always wanted?"

I need to save this, it's one of the most precise descriptions of the ending(s).

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Kitten Tactics wrote...
I will give them an unreasonable amount of money for the choice to have a decent ending.  I hate myself for saying that, but it's the truth.  Just let me have my favorite series back.


Sorry, but with their day one DLC mambo jambo, EA has already gone beyond that possibility.

If they do fix the game, they have to do it for free, or they will destroy what little rep they have left. Never underestimate the press... and nearly all major gaming mags are allready on the fence about EA's blatant rip off actions.

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Kitten Tactics wrote...

FugitiveMind wrote...

Chilling thought...

What if this is all an EA ploy to combat piracy, and their wave of the future is you buy the first half of the game, and then after activation you can download the second half?

*shudders and hunts for beer*

I will give them an unreasonable amount of money for the choice to have a decent ending.  I hate myself for saying that, but it's the truth.  Just let me have my favorite series back.


Kitten, I am right with you. It's terrible and it's evil, but yes, I will pay for this DLC to get proper closer.

#16572
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Mhgasa wrote...

...If we didnt enjoy the journey we wouldnt be here now asking questions. I have loved the me universe from day one, and the epilogue was just such an anticlimax and i hope they can accomodate us in some way.


QFT. That's the bright side. Didn't care so much about Fallout's ending, for example, because I was so happy that it was still (Barely) playable to the end due to the bugs. I only get angry when the game was fantastic at the start. 

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Experimentel wrote...

Faraborne wrote...

Inspection of BSN forces in progress. 
Take back the endings!
We are going to fight with rEApers!

United Kigdom - 400
United States of America - 500
- Pittsburgh Steelers heavy infantry/Pittsburgh Steelers Iron Curtian - 100
- Southwest Missouri angry republican 50
- Southern Overwatch - 80
- Special Ops - 100
- Vermont Hippie potheads - 50

German - 200
- German Pioneer Corps - 50

Canada - 400
- Saskatchewan mechanical division - 50
- SSV Guelph - 50
- Atlantic Canadian fleet reporting in - 140
- Edmonton Blood Dragons - 150
- Canadian Tundra Engineering Corps - 50
Poland - 100
Czech - 100
- Czech Science Crew - 50
Australia - 150
Slovak fleet is going to join us - 100
Swedish fleet - 100Brazilia - 200

Russian fleets - 300
- Russian Destroyers - 50

Scottish fleet reporting in - 100
Argentinian Fleet - 150
Singapore Strike Team - 100
Hoosier Cruiser - 20
Oregon Engineering Section reporting in - 20
Glaswegian Battalions - 20
Spanish & Latin Fleets in - 150 (estimate needed)
Lone Turkish Frigate - 10
Tamcia' Frigate - 10
SSV VyR - 25

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4125 WA 



Californian League of Video Game Parties reporting in! 


Polish Video-Highjacking Troop reporting and eager to participate.

Modifié par Aiden_Cora, 10 mars 2012 - 08:09 .


#16574
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Soundsystem wrote...

Blashyrkh020 wrote...

retailavenger85 wrote...

Danilevich wrote...



MissNet wrote...

Inspection of BSN forces in progress. 
Take back the endings!
We are going to fight with rEApers!

United Kigdom - 400
United States of America - 500
- Pittsburgh Steelers heavy infantry/Pittsburgh Steelers Iron Curtian - 100
- Southwest Missouri angry republican 50
- Southern Overwatch - 80
- Special Ops - 100
- Vermont Hippie potheads - 50

German - 200
- German Pioneer Corps - 50

Canada - 400
- Saskatchewan mechanical division - 50
- SSV Guelph - 50
- Atlantic Canadian fleet reporting in - 140
- Edmonton Blood Dragons - 150
- Canadian Tundra Engineering Corps - 50
Poland - 100
Czech - 100
- Czech Science Crew - 50
Australia - 150
Slovak fleet is going to join us - 100
Swedish fleet - 100Brazilia - 200

Russian fleets - 300
- Russian Destroyers - 50

Scottish fleet reporting in - 100
Argentinian Fleet - 150
Singapore Strike Team - 100
Hoosier Cruiser - 20
Oregon Engineering Section reporting in - 20
Glaswegian Battalions - 20
Spanish & Latin Fleets in - 150 (estimate needed)
Lone Turkish Frigate - 10
Tamcia' Frigate - 10
SSV VyR - 25

-----
4125 WA 



Siberian Special Task Forces are at your service


Pacific Northwest Hipster Batallion reporting in!



Czech Bio-engineering Unit ready for service. Lets run tests on some sea shells!

Also eat Mac Walters.


Vancouver Island Covert Ops reporting for duty!

 

Maryland   Vanguard Assualt  Unit,     Raven Company  reporting for duty... lets get some. 

#16575
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cannedcream wrote...

TamiBx wrote...

MordiMoro wrote...

Gintama007 wrote...

Michael Gamble just posted this on Twitter "By the way... I am reading all of your thoughts. Just not ready to comment yet."


Please remember this Mr. Gamble?

"There are many different endings. We wouldn’t do it any other way. How could you go through all three campaigns playing as your Shepard and then be forced into a bespoke ending that everyone gets?"

"A lot of the satisfaction comes out of the choices you've made. When a story concludes a certain way, the way it concluded was in part because of the choices you made. And that kind of ups the replayability."

Michael Gamble



He also said:
In reply to his tweet about how we would hold on to our ME3 copies if we knew what Bioware is planning, someone mentioned the dlc and the 4chan post that says there will be dlcs. Then he said this:

"yes, but I never said anything about DLC, let alone a love interest one..."


Soo...they know the problem is there, but they're not promising to fix it...? Or is he just denying the nature of the dlc?


Normally, I would love a romance DLC. Any excuse to see more cute scenes between my Shepard and Tali.

Now, honestly, I just don't care. Since, unless that fix that ending, EVERYTHING that happens prior is rendered completely meaningless. Or, that's how I feel, anyway.

I never thought anything could quell my Tali love... and yet here we are.


I think that's how a lot of us are feeling right now. I never thought anything would shake my love for this game or Bioware, but I honestly don't know anymore. The endings just left too much.