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[Tony208]

Mass Effect isn't anything like other games where you're just a player/viewer.

Shepard's story is our story as much as it is Bioware's. These endings comes down to whatever you do, Shepard is screwed, the crew is screwed, and so is the galaxy. Our choices didn't matter.

[JPshieux]

omskman wrote...

Kloborgg711 wrote...
"Congratulations! You slightly changed a galactic cycle! Undoubtedly billions more will die as galactic civilization is set back tens of thousands of years, in addition to the trillions who already sacrificed themselves, but we'll leave that to your imagination! No, your Shepard will never get anything resembling a real reward for all his hard work, nor will he ever get to spend any more time with his friends or love interest. But hey, at least we vaguely establish that in an untold future your legend becomes a vague forgotten myth in a society were space-faring technology is apparently still a fantasy! Isn't that what you always wanted?"

I need to save this, it's one of the most precise descriptions of the ending(s).

QFE. This is the ending, given to you in 3 primary colors. 

[GreenSoda]

omskman wrote...

Kloborgg711 wrote...
"Congratulations! You slightly changed a galactic cycle! Undoubtedly billions more will die as galactic civilization is set back tens of thousands of years, in addition to the trillions who already sacrificed themselves, but we'll leave that to your imagination! No, your Shepard will never get anything resembling a real reward for all his hard work, nor will he ever get to spend any more time with his friends or love interest. But hey, at least we vaguely establish that in an untold future your legend becomes a vague forgotten myth in a society were space-faring technology is apparently still a fantasy! Isn't that what you always wanted?"

I need to save this, it's one of the most precise descriptions of the ending(s).

I like this impression from another thread:

mjm3 wrote...

i wish i banged morinth at the end of me2 if i knew i would die banging the relays instead

[cannedcream]

chosen_trekie wrote...

The way I imagin the ending is the same up until Hackett calls.  In mine you pass out next to Anderson, the Crubicle sends out a signal that deactivates the Reapers, the signal travels througout the mass relays (without destroying them) deactivating everyreaper in the galaxy.  After that you would get an epiloge kind of like in Dragon Age: Origions that tells you how your desicions affected the galaxy.

"I reject your reality and substitute my own."

I'm with Chosen. That's the ending I want, because at least in THIS verson, Mordin, Thane, and Legion don't die for nothing, my choices had meaning, and I can solice in knowing that the characters I know and love are safe.

Absolutly NO closer in the endings we got. That's what hurt.

[FugitiveMind]

There's a reason this forum has an entire front page of endings posts...

It's because any question about gameplay or story that starts:
How do I...?
Where is...?
When does...?
Who do I find...?
What happens if...?

All have the same answer:
It doesn't matter, pick your colored doom

[Alamar2078]

I just finished playing an hour and a half ago [and replayed the various endings] so I'm not sure what to think at this point.

I loved how the game played and with the exception of "Reaper damage sponges" thought that the game was awesome [9.4 of 10??] but the last 30 minutes of the game soured me so much that I'm now tempted to give the game a 3 of 10 simply because the effort I expended in the series wasn't matched by the endings.

Coming in to the game I was worried that the ending would be pulled out of someone's bottom but after seeing this I'm blown away [in the bad way]

[Heidenkind]

If only I had looked into this forum, before I completed the game... I simply wouldn't finish the game and be happy with my Shep sitting on the citadel with Anderson next to him. All the small side-quests, the war asset collecting, everything beside the mainstory just feel like a huge waste of time at the moment (Even played a lot mp just to get an even higher score 6k+, but hey it was pointless).
Hell 10 minutes before the credits rolled over my screen I was happy to replay ME3 with my "other" Shepard. But after this...nope the motivation is completely gone, from over excited to totally disappointed in less than 5 minutes.

Maybe this was the intention all along, to show once again how much people can be affected by the story, or have been.

[Aztlanna]

Reporting from Mexico. Latin fleets are engaged. And enraged.

To address the hallucination theory for a sec... yeah, I agree it's the most sensible explanation for the mess we got at the end. But if this is the truth, seriously, then I can only goggle. The "It was all a dream!" angle was not fresh, even in 1984, when they did it on Dallas.

[cannedcream]

GreenSoda wrote...

omskman wrote...

Kloborgg711 wrote...
"Congratulations! You slightly changed a galactic cycle! Undoubtedly billions more will die as galactic civilization is set back tens of thousands of years, in addition to the trillions who already sacrificed themselves, but we'll leave that to your imagination! No, your Shepard will never get anything resembling a real reward for all his hard work, nor will he ever get to spend any more time with his friends or love interest. But hey, at least we vaguely establish that in an untold future your legend becomes a vague forgotten myth in a society were space-faring technology is apparently still a fantasy! Isn't that what you always wanted?"

I need to save this, it's one of the most precise descriptions of the ending(s).

I like this impression from another thread:

mjm3 wrote...

i wish i banged morinth at the end of me2 if i knew i would die banging the relays instead

Truer words were never spoken.

Someone engrave these in stone.

[Gruzmog]

Dutch amphibian landing squad ready for orders

[Annaleah]

Schirach wrote...

omskman wrote...

Kloborgg711 wrote...
"Congratulations! You slightly changed a galactic cycle! Undoubtedly billions more will die as galactic civilization is set back tens of thousands of years, in addition to the trillions who already sacrificed themselves, but we'll leave that to your imagination! No, your Shepard will never get anything resembling a real reward for all his hard work, nor will he ever get to spend any more time with his friends or love interest. But hey, at least we vaguely establish that in an untold future your legend becomes a vague forgotten myth in a society were space-faring technology is apparently still a fantasy! Isn't that what you always wanted?"

I need to save this, it's one of the most precise descriptions of the ending(s).

QFE. This is the ending, given to you in 3 primary colors.

But you get to choose which color! Never let it be said that Bioware doesn't let us chose our endings! 

[mauro2222]

Faraborne wrote...

This may already have been shared, but this guy is spot on: http://www.ign.com/b...em-the-trilogy/

The person who wrote this, is my hero.

[Cepreus]

Dreadnought "Ukraine" join the battle!

Modifié par Cepreus, 10 mars 2012 - 08:21 .

[Omega Scythe]

Figured I should add my comments into the see of discontent that is sweeping us, as this issue actually does matter to me. I surprise myself, honestly, as I usually just grouse a bit to myself and leave it be. Mass Effect as a series means more to me than that, apparently.

I played the first Mass Effect back in the day, and loved it. Sadly, when news on the Internet started to come forth about the second one, acquaintances of mine tragically communicated to me a severely warped and possibly biased version of what it was about, leading me to lose interest in the series due to mistaken beliefs that they had changed the series in an unsatisfying way.

About a month and a half before the release of ME3, I decided to play the first one again, and to partake of the DLC this time around, so I bought them. Playing it again after so long brought back all the excitement, and thus, I decided to buy the second one and it's DLC to give it a try.

I was blown away. All of the things I had heard about it were demonstrably false. The enthusiasm for the series I should have had all along was reignited, and upon finishing, I immediately took steps to secure myself a Digital Deluxe version of ME3.

Playing ME3 was one of the most delightful experiences I have had in a long time. It was living up to all my expectations and more. So many times I nearly died laughing at ridiculous lines or interactions. I was enjoying myself.

And then.......and it all came tumbling down in the last bit of the game. It's as if the grand space opera that is the Mass Effect series came to a grinding halt and was replaced by a low-budget middle school play. Deus Ex Machina space child AI. All of my choices invalidated. All of that recruiting I did, all of those characters and factions I read about and actively worked to recruit....reduced to numbers, not even seen in the final battle. The mercenary forces? Major Kirrahe? Any of the non-playable crew members? Nothing. Nothing. All left by the wayside. Shepard killed no matter what, and with little protest, just a drunken sort of stupefied obedience to this strange child AI being thing that he had never seen before, with little knowledge of its motivations or even origin. Even in the ending where he techincally "lives", it isn't much of a living. Assuming he doesn't die moments later off screen because nobody has any idea where in the rubble he is, all that awaits him is a world in which the foundations of galactic society are destroyed. Trillions will die and the species have been messily segregated. It was all for naught. I have never felt more destroyed by an ending in my life.

The only thing I can think of to delude myself away from depression right now is that, maybe, Bioware ran out of budget near the end, and put this strange, out-of-place ending in as a kind of bookmark. They then released the game, with the plan of using the sales returns to budget the real ending they originally meant to give it.

I know it's unlikely. But it's all I've got right now. If they let this ending destroy 5 years of gaming excellence, my faith in video games to rise to be a proud storytelling medium of its own is going to take a major hit.

[cannedcream]

Aztlanna wrote...

Reporting from Mexico. Latin fleets are engaged. And enraged.

To address the hallucination theory for a sec... yeah, I agree it's the most sensible explanation for the mess we got at the end. But if this is the truth, seriously, then I can only goggle. The "It was all a dream!" angle was not fresh, even in 1984, when they did it on Dallas.

No, no. See, the entire game was just a story that old man was telling that little boy, and by the end his Alzheimers was acting up, and he forgot what he was talking about and just made some crap up.

He also describe so graphic sex scenes to that child, sometimes same-sex or interracial.

The entire story was the ramblings of an insane old man. 

Heidenkind wrote...

If only I had looked into this forum,
before I completed the game... I simply wouldn't finish the game and be
happy with my Shep sitting on the citadel with Anderson next to him.
All the small side-quests, the war asset collecting, everything beside
the mainstory just feel like a huge waste of time at the moment (Even
played a lot mp just to get an even higher score 6k+, but hey it was
pointless).
Hell 10 minutes before the credits rolled over my screen
I was happy to replay ME3 with my "other" Shepard. But after
this...nope the motivation is completely gone, from over excited to
totally disappointed in less than 5 minutes.

Maybe this was the intention all along, to show once again how much people can be affected by the story, or have been.

If so then I've hit every emotion there is.

[Eirileth]

I just... I couldn't sleep last night. I was so sure this was a nightmare. The lack of closure made me unable to sleep. Please, BioWare, please at least give us some hope. Tell us this isn't the true ending. You don't even have to tell us any details on your plans. Just tell us there are plans at all.

[MystTsym]

nitefyre410 wrote...

Soundsystem wrote...

Blashyrkh020 wrote...

retailavenger85 wrote...

Danilevich wrote...

MissNet wrote...

Inspection of BSN forces in progress. 
Take back the endings!
We are going to fight with rEApers!

United Kigdom - 400
United States of America - 500
- Pittsburgh Steelers heavy infantry/Pittsburgh Steelers Iron Curtian - 100
- Southwest Missouri angry republican 50
- Southern Overwatch - 80
- Special Ops - 100
- Vermont Hippie potheads - 50

German - 200
- German Pioneer Corps - 50

Canada - 400
- Saskatchewan mechanical division - 50
- SSV Guelph - 50
- Atlantic Canadian fleet reporting in - 140
- Edmonton Blood Dragons - 150
- Canadian Tundra Engineering Corps - 50
Poland - 100
Czech - 100
- Czech Science Crew - 50
Australia - 150
Slovak fleet is going to join us - 100
Swedish fleet - 100Brazilia - 200

Russian fleets - 300
- Russian Destroyers - 50

Scottish fleet reporting in - 100
Argentinian Fleet - 150
Singapore Strike Team - 100
Hoosier Cruiser - 20
Oregon Engineering Section reporting in - 20
Glaswegian Battalions - 20
Spanish & Latin Fleets in - 150 (estimate needed)
Lone Turkish Frigate - 10
Tamcia' Frigate - 10
SSV VyR - 25

-----
4125 WA 

Siberian Special Task Forces are at your service

Pacific Northwest Hipster Batallion reporting in!

Czech Bio-engineering Unit ready for service. Lets run tests on some sea shells!

Also eat Mac Walters.

Vancouver Island Covert Ops reporting for duty!

 

Maryland   Vanguard Assualt  Unit,     Raven Company  reporting for duty... lets get some. 

Virginian Covert Sniper squad   reporting for duty

[Kloborgg711]

In all seriousness, does anyone else feel like it would be more satisfying if the Reapers just won?
Sure, every 50,000 years we deal with this horrendous galactic genocide, but at least between that time we get to picture more civilizations develop and spread throughout the galaxy. As far as "hope" goes, we would still be left to ponder whether the next cycle would be able to achieve victory. The pseudo-victory we're left with really makes it seem terribly unlikely that an intergalactic government would ever re-emerge. I think that's one of the most powerful messages that gets people riled up; the idea that the galaxy just became a dreary, dark, and lonely place.

[Shunt Mcblunt]

First off loved the Gameplay Storyline(till Hackett called about Crucible), scanning (even thought need a bind key on keyboard for it), the Areith Deaths eeerrr. . . Mordin, Thane, and Legion Death (Tear Jerking), Multiplayer, and Games AI.

Now the bad part. The Ending:
I could see an ending showing Bioware or EA going bankrupt or worse.
I would like see an endings with far more relativity and creativity than this crap.

With this game you have let us know no matter what do in life we are destine to die following Paths of Good or Neutral and will survive only if we are Evil and willing to destroy. Worse than that you are influencing the younger generation our DESTRUCTION is inevitable.

As Thane would say, "Do not blame us for the for the actions. You need to blame the game ending storyline writers and end scene creators. They were the cause."


Reporting in:
Texas Alamo Fleet - 50
Texas Sam Houston Dreadnought - 100
Texas Houston Militia - 50

Modifié par Shunt Mcblunt, 10 mars 2012 - 08:30 .

[Old Books]

It all just seems like a complete waste of the universe Bioware have built up, possibly the most interesting I have come across in any artistic medium. All the books, comics etc... just seem redundant now.

But the cynic in me suspects that Bioware/EA know exactly what they are doing and this is so that post campaign DLCs, probably more than one can be released. And as this thread shows, we will all snap it up so that the we can get the kind of resolution the series deserves.

[JPshieux]

And just imagine this response on the forum is from players who have access to post in the forums. Think about those who cannot and do not know how to gain access to post their opinion. I have been scanning other forums throughout the web in different languages as well as watching and discussing the endings on my Tumblr feed, not to mention all my friends and personal acquaintances that cannot believe I recommended this game to them.

Consensus has been reached Bioware, the ending needs serious calibrations.

[Aztlanna]

You know what was super depressing? That the Yahg are being left alone. Which means their species will dominate the next cycle. SWEET. I really liked the yahg I met in LotSB. /endsarcasm

[Gigerstreak]

www.ign.com/blogs/goldenadamas/2012/03/09/how-mass-effect-3-free-additional-dlc-endings-can-redeem-the-trilogy/www.ign.com/blogs/goldenadamas/2012/03/09/how-mass-effect-3-free-additional-dlc-endings-can-redeem-the-trilogy/

Modifié par Gigerstreak, 10 mars 2012 - 08:31 .

[Eirileth]

Kloborgg711 wrote...

In all seriousness, does anyone else feel like it would be more satisfying if the Reapers just won?
Sure, every 50,000 years we deal with this horrendous galactic genocide, but at least between that time we get to picture more civilizations develop and spread throughout the galaxy. As far as "hope" goes, we would still be left to ponder whether the next cycle would be able to achieve victory. The pseudo-victory we're left with really makes it seem terribly unlikely that an intergalactic government would ever re-emerge. I think that's one of the most powerful messages that gets people riled up; the idea that the galaxy just became a dreary, dark, and lonely place.

The general message here... Is that they took Mass Effect 3 and turned it into Real Life. The Galaxy in real life is a dark, dreary and lonely place. We played Mass Effect to escape that... And now they have taken the wonder of that setting away from us.

[rogueagent6]

Been doing some data mining, forum lurking, answer searching... I too would pay for DLC with a better ending. The points of contention I have with guardian's argument regarding synthetic life are these:

1. EDI. She was born the rogue VI on Luna. Cerberus comes into possession of her after Shepard's deactivation, and adds reaper tech, thus creating EDI. Through Joker freeing her from her shackles, falling in love, and living life in general, modifies her own code to value all life over self preservation. In the end witnessing what the reapers do to all advanced life past and present finds them repulsive and would rather die than be like them.

2. The Geth. You end a centuries old conflict between them and the Quarians, if you chose the apropriate path, and the Geth gain true individualism in the process. The Geth assist the Quarians in recolonizing parts of Rannoth, and even go so far as to help them build shelters and accelerate the Quarian's re-acclimatization to the environment.

Even in the beginning the Geth did not want to completely destroy their creators, they only ever fought for self-preservation, and even saved the memories of the Quarians that sacaficed themselvs for the Geth. Those are not the actions of a race, synthetic or otherwise, that is bent on the destruction of their creators. It's not until Reaper influence that the Geth become openly hostile towards organic life.

Anyways I just wanted to state these facts, and have probably restated them, but I have far too much invested into this series time wise and emotionally to accept the endings as they stand.

Having said all that, I don't know how much hope there is for a change, or addition to the current endings as they stand. As I stated above, I did some data mining, and what I found didn't leave much hope IMO.

Modifié par rogueagent6, 10 mars 2012 - 08:33 .