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[cotheer]

Almostfaceman wrote...

Benathorn wrote...

I completely agree with you. It has been a few days now since I have beaten the game and it's STILL bothering me. I don't understand why I care so much but I just do and the weight of it all is making me sick.

I can't answer for you, but I care so much because the story, the character, the squad, the setting is just too awesome to end this way, with a genie handing out three lame wishes.

I guess someone rubbed the crucible the wrong way 

[spoonkick]

The really is devastating for both the fans and the creators, because up until the last ten minutes it was literally the best game I have ever played in my life. Up until that moment Mass Effect was the best story I have ever experienced. ME became a huge part of my life from the moment I picked it up and then at the very end, everything that made it so real, so wonderful was ruined.

I don't even care that Shepard died. I just care that the ending didn't match the series that I have loved for the past 5ish years. That suddenly at the very end, everything I have done so far doesn't matter. Not because all the endings suck (which they do) but because the ending suddenly has nothing to do with me or Shepard or the Normandy.

No, suddenly the end is about some sudden contrived moral choice that has nothing to do with anything. We should have gotten the ending we were all expecting. Shepard may have died, maybe lived, but either way...the enemy should have been the Reapers not the universe.

[MordiMoro]

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Modifié par MordiMoro, 10 mars 2012 - 10:22 .

[Ameno Xiel]

Come on guys...stop copying that war asset list every few posts! Even it IS humorous and shows how united the community stands against the endings this bloody thing will get this thread closed sooner than later!
I recommend - that is, if someones up to it - post a complete list every 10 pages. Just for laughs, not for pushs.

Ps.: Since this whole thing seems to take some time: one lonely german Field Kitchen reports in. Although I prefer the term "Goulash Cannon" Troops gotta eat sometime you know?!^^

Sorry for offtopic!

[kamilszmid]

 BioWare, I have been with you for almost 14 years, I played almost all of your games: brilliant Baldur's Gate, epic Planescape Torment, screwed (but with great multiplayer) Neverwinter Nights, amazing Dragon Age (well apart from the sequel). Still, my favourite is Mass Effect. In Mass Effect you joined everything best from all the previous games, put it into a brand new universe along with characters I will never forget (Mordin, Tali and exceptionally, after the 3rd part - Liara, which was the loveliest female character you have ever created).

I was so emotionally tied to this game, amazed by it's unique atmosphere, great story and awe-struck by its "epicness". You made an unforgettable 3-part masterpiece, which by far outstrips any other computer game. I think that Mass Effect already is among the proudest representatives of virtual entertainment. It really is an interactive novel, something in between written story and a movie, something that might become the basis of future game industry. It was not only you who wrote the story, it was also us - each Shepard had his own character, other choices, other interest, etc. And it was totally worth it...

However, this what was the basis of the series was, as many before said, destroyed in last 10 minutes of gameplay. Mass Effect  3 was an excellent game probably the best I have ever played, even better than its predecessors. Still, all the effort we could make during the game was for naught, all the hope Shepard and his companions had was for naught, all the beauty of Krogan, Turian and Quarain-Geth quests was vanquished by the horrible three endings you gave us.

Many of us were expecting a happy ending and the story gave us the notion that it might eventually come, that Shepard's labour had any sense. Instead all the fleets are trapped on Earth, mass relays are destroyed, Shepard is dead, literally each ally we had is doomed by our action. So, Shepard turns out to be after all a hero, who stopped the Reapers, but at the same time sentenced thousands of Turians, Quarians and Geth to death and seclusion on Earth? Really a hero? That is not ok, and as far as I know my Shepard, he would never allow that to happen.

I am also okay with a sad ending, I could accept it, but as many people pointed out, those sad endings we get are totally, totally illogical and badly tied with the rest of history. Why the hell Shepard can't argue with Catalyst? Child's line of argument is so weak and bad that I really do not wonder why you put a child for that role, noone sane and mature would be saying such nonsense... I really hoped for a better explanation of Reapers' action - this organic-synthetic conflict is a very strange reason to simply wipe out all the civilisations in the name of greater order. What kind of order is this I ask you? I am pretty sure that a great war between synthetics and organics would cause less destruction and misery than Reapers' actions. Also, all wars have conclusion - one side would eventually win, so why is it better to get rid of al of the galactic beings?

By the way, how did it happen that destrucion of mass relays did not wipe out entire system, as it did in Arrival? This would be even worse than Reapers winning the war. Anyway, what's the point of  mass relays annihilation, tell me? I simply do not understand why it had to occur.

Before enetering the conduit (and I was there with my two favourite squaddies - Tali and Liara), everyone were told to be dead - so what the heck is Tali doing on Normandy? How did she escape? That was not explained and is a big story incongruence. Apart from that I really hate the after-credits scene with child and astronome. Oh come on, you really had to coclude it with an utterly kitschy Hollywood scene? This game did not deserve that.

To conclude, Bioware I beg you, give us additional endings. You don't have to change anything in the story, just let us persuade the Kid that he is wrong and do let us end this war in another, better way. We really want it.... Leave the other endings, but fix the issues with mass relays and aftermath Normandy crew, this totally is out of logic. A Reaper-victory ending would be also a very nice addition. 

And yes, if it requires high resources, we will pay for it and you know that.

[Zarathoas]

Just beat the game for the first time. Disappointed isn't strong enough. Spent all that time staying true to your LI, and you can't have a happily ever after. Whats the point? My decisions through out the series makes little to no difference, again whats the point? I'm mad,sad...want to throw my controller at the TV. This plain old sucks. Even if you got the Shepard survives ending.

I'm so pissed right now.

Edit: Reminds me too much of the Matrix ending. Ugh.

Modifié par Zarathoas, 10 mars 2012 - 10:28 .

[noobcannon]

Spotsylvania Virginia Volus Vanguards reporting for battle. +10

Modifié par noobcannon, 10 mars 2012 - 10:26 .

[Captain_Obvious]

Central California Sentinels reporting for duty. We've been a bit understaffed with desertions in the past few days, but we've still got 20 points of Sentinels ready to go. Fight the good fight.

[noobcannon]

16,825 posts. that's some serious war assets right there.

[Annaleah]

I've been going about my life today with a much happier demeanor as compared to my woeful miserable existence of yesterday after I actually beat the game... I was wondering why I was feeling so much better since at this point I have no reason to feel better at all... perhaps it is my optimism... perhaps its the fact that I started taking a stand...

But then I realized the only things I did today were chores and the rest of it was me being glued to this forum. Now I suddenly realize this forum is the only thing holding me together... that and hope...

Normally when I experience something that breaks my heart I take my mind off it by playing video games... and the games that always made me feel better were Bioware games... now it's like the fabric of my reality has been torn askew... I cant even bring myself to open a game.

In short: I need help.

[CronoDragoon]

At the beginning of my playthrough I told Liara it wouldn't work and that I was sticking with Tali, and though the Rannoch scenes were beautiful, the whole rest of the game I kept feeling like I would have rathered be with Liara after all (the archive that Liara created, the destruction of Thessia, the beautiful "eternity" scene right before Crucible). I was fully prepared to start my Insanity playthrough and hit it up with her instead, even if I die when she's still young asari-wise.

Now it doesn't freaking matter. Mass Effect is about the characters. People don't put 100 hours into a game series for a stab at a deep, metaphysical ending. They want characters. And having the ending put not only all those characters but the galaxy in the crappiest situation imaginable is just...ugh. Someone said it earlier, and I agree: The Reapers winning with some poignant "we gave it our all but this is it after all" scenes with the characters would have been better.

[panamakira]

Just thought I'd share this. If you head over to Mike Gamble's twitter, a lot of people including myself had been tweeting him about how dissappointed we were with the endings and he hasn't made any particular comments regarding that yet but his last tweet at least tell us he/BW are aware of the fan reactions.

Last tweet:
"By the way... I am reading all of your thoughts. Just not ready to comment yet."

So maybe it's not a bad idea to keep tweeting him about it from the many people in here. It seems he actually reads his twitter.

This is as close as we've gotten a dev reaction.

[Perkocet13]

how about having javik sacrifice himself instead of shepard, i think that makes more sense, let shep live, kill off the guy whose people are already dead.

[xDarkspace]

lol found this coment on a mass effect 3 vid

( You exist because we allow it, and you will improve that ending because we demand it. )

[Grand Wazoo]

panamakira wrote...

Just thought I'd share this. If you head over to Mike Gamble's twitter, a lot of people including myself had been tweeting him about how dissappointed we were with the endings and he hasn't made any particular comments regarding that yet but his last tweet at least tell us he/BW are aware of the fan reactions.

Last tweet:
"By the way... I am reading all of your thoughts. Just not ready to comment yet."

So maybe it's not a bad idea to keep tweeting him about it from the many people in here. It seems he actually reads his twitter.

This is as close as we've gotten a dev reaction.

Yeah. Same guy also said :

"How could you go through all three
campaigns playing as your Shepard and then be forced into a bespoke
ending that everyone gets?"

[ArmyKnifeX]

Annaleah wrote...

I've been going about my life today with a much happier demeanor as compared to my woeful miserable existence of yesterday after I actually beat the game... I was wondering why I was feeling so much better since at this point I have no reason to feel better at all... perhaps it is my optimism... perhaps its the fact that I started taking a stand...

But then I realized the only things I did today were chores and the rest of it was me being glued to this forum. Now I suddenly realize this forum is the only thing holding me together... that and hope...

Normally when I experience something that breaks my heart I take my mind off it by playing video games... and the games that always made me feel better were Bioware games... now it's like the fabric of my reality has been torn askew... I cant even bring myself to open a game.

In short: I need help.

I'm strongly considering starting a new playthrough of ME1 and ME2.. and just sticking to those. And maybe some of ME3. MAYBE. Doubtful, though.

[P_sutherland]

panamakira wrote...

Just thought I'd share this. If you head over to Mike Gamble's twitter, a lot of people including myself had been tweeting him about how dissappointed we were with the endings and he hasn't made any particular comments regarding that yet but his last tweet at least tell us he/BW are aware of the fan reactions.

Last tweet:
"By the way... I am reading all of your thoughts. Just not ready to comment yet."

So maybe it's not a bad idea to keep tweeting him about it from the many people in here. It seems he actually reads his twitter.

This is as close as we've gotten a dev reaction.

personnaly i think we should build one of those baby reapers then park it outside biowars offices.. then put a car park sized sign on its tail bit saying "Harbinger knows where you live!"

[GBGriffin]

Perkocet13 wrote...

how about having javik sacrifice himself instead of shepard, i think that makes more sense, let shep live, kill off the guy whose people are already dead.

Haha, and further imply that the "optional" DLC isn't really optional? That'd be great.

[Aztlanna]

Perkocet13 wrote...

how about having javik sacrifice himself instead of shepard, i think that makes more sense, let shep live, kill off the guy whose people are already dead.

TBH, I thought this would be a Renegade option.

[AvianCat]

I'm having the hardest time finding the words to express how angry I am at Bioware for this. WHY would they build this FANTASTIC lore and universe just to throw it all away. WHY did they make us love these characters so much just to see them land on an alien planet with no explaination. WHY did they make us make these galaxy altering decisions just for them to not make a difference. This is a bigger let down than DA2, just because of the fact that there is the gleaming hope that DA3 is it's redeamer, but ME3 is the finally in the trilogy so just, just WTF!!! MY official label for the Bioware-EA alliance is "Trolls of the Internet".

The Pennsylvanian Biotic and Tech Division reporting for duty!

Modifié par AvianCat, 10 mars 2012 - 10:34 .

[FugitiveMind]

GBGriffin wrote...

Perkocet13 wrote...

how about having javik sacrifice himself instead of shepard, i think that makes more sense, let shep live, kill off the guy whose people are already dead.

Haha, and further imply that the "optional" DLC isn't really optional? That'd be great.

Well the optional multiplayer isn't really optional either so at least it'd be consistant

[panamakira]

LMAO~ Yeah well his words are coming back to bite him in the ass. I don't care.....I want to know what their logic with those endings are at least, and who thought we would be thrilled to have them if they're not working on a "Fix Crap Endings" DLC.

There just so much fail logic in those endings....

Modifié par panamakira, 10 mars 2012 - 10:34 .

[ArbitorEAAcc]

You know... when I had to make the decision the first time, I shot at the hologram of the AI. The second time, I tried walking away entirely, would have been a cool ending if shepard did that and was like:

"This is a problem that our allies must decide upon."

Highlighting the cooperation between races against the reapers.

[Major Swift]

Just finished the game for myself, that was just terrible, there's absolutely nothing to explain why joker is going through a relay, he just is, and id love to know how tali and garrus are there with him when they were with me......... its sad that 5 minutes out of a 44 hour playthrough ruined everything considering the rest of the game was the best thing I've ever played

New York special ops team awaiting orders

[xDarkspace]

My reaction to Mass Effect 3 ending

www.youtube.com/watch