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[christrek1982]

Drudgie wrote...

I just wanted to have an ending were i kicked my feet up sat back with Liara and watched our little blue children. Thank you bioware from taking that away from me and in fact any choice I could've had away from me I die.. I die.. I live but have no contact with loved ones so may as well die.
Yeah thanks bioware. Thank you for waiting until the last moment to leave a bad taste in my mouth. I owe ya one.


Seriously please release a new hope kind've dlc. Just to reunite us with our friends and love interests.

Weak ending.

.jpg.exe wrote...

Issue now beside me not bothering to play through a ng+ really im not even going to cheat my way through it, is that i think i got the best ending, and its not the best, some huge plot holes in it, my LI was with me on the last mission yet somehow is on the N2 when it crashes on New Eden? Sorry but i call baloney. :<

Very sad panda here, the only and i mean ONLY good bit about the last hour of the game was the Embracing Eternity scene with TSB right before you commit to the no mans land. That was good,

 

I actually had this very same thing I searched everywhere for her after the little spolsion thinking she's dead the whole way true the last moments. Then i find she was with joker?!? And not even on earth.

this +1

[Copperbolt]

Here here, I don't care if it's unrealistic and cliche' I want the happy ending where I kick back with my friends and loved ones and shoot bottles with Garrus!

[jrs81]

My view of the ending is the kid is the first race's AI creation who created the reapers to live beyond entropy and the universes heat death and into the next big bang.

Considering my interpetation and to continue the universe for future games, books, etc the only ending that could actually be considered canon if bioware sticks to what they have is the control ending. They would want the Reapers around to actually have a story and to rebuild the gates.

Modifié par jrs81, 11 mars 2012 - 03:30 .

[DadeLeviathan]

 I love it when a story has bittersweet endings, but they need to fit the story. These endings do not fit the story and they make no sense with the rest of the story. They invalidate pretty much everything you've done in the previous games and basically destroy the Mass Effect universe as all three endings cause the mass effects to be destroyed and thus basically plunge the entirety of galactic society into a new dark age.

Not to mention that the population of one ship is able to populate a whole planet? WTF? Best case scenario, they are all only Human, or if Liara decided to mate with a bunch of people, a mix of asari and humans. But even then, one ship? Doesn't make sense. Now if the ending fit and made sense, it would be beautiful, especially with the addition of the montage of the various crew you get as shepard makes his decision. 

not to mention that the synthesis ending makes no sense. So a burst of energy suddenly turns everybody into a mix of synthetic and organic life? Even if you tried to somehow explain with nanobites and quantum physics, it still wouldn't make sense. Such an action just simply isn't possible. 

These endings, while written well, are bad for the game. They don't make sense and they devalue everything your character has done. It's one thing to have an option for the player who wants Shepard to go out with a bang, but this is just ridiculous.

[christrek1982]

Esker02 wrote...

infinitekilan wrote...

Shepard deserved better. He deserved to survive and finally experience happiness with the love of his life. He deserved to walk back out onto the battlefield of Earth, and see everything and everyone he saved. He deserved the unthinkable fame and respect that comes with doing something so monumental, that words cannot be spoken to do it justice.

Liara, Ash, Garrus, and Tali deserved better. The Krogans deserve to have their children. The Quarians deserve their homeworld. The entire galaxy deserves to still be able to function, after uniting and banding together to stop the single greatest threat life itself has ever faced.

I agree with everything you said, but this bit in particular resonates well. I don't just want the ability for a happily ever after ending because I think that's how games should end. Many games have somber endings and are much better for it. But this cast of characters, under these circumstances, quite frankly deserved more. It's that sentiment, which seems obvious to so many of us, that I am shocked the writers didn't also share. Not even enough to make it a possibility, no matter how remote and difficult to obtain.

It's sad. And it hurts, because this isn't a cast that I've grown to love over a week, or a month. This is a cast that I've been with for years.

this as well

[Tony208]

From a PR standpoint, they shouldn't apologize or w/e for the ending.

Just come out with alternate ending DLC free or paid and call it "listening to the fans".

Everyone's happy.

[Polat995]

Ok, let's say it is the real ending. Then how the hell can I fire normal pistol more than 50 times without changing thermal clip?

[allyon]

Well I kinda got a responce....... I tweeted Jessica Merizan

@JessicaMerizan I stopped playing ME3 Wed night when I found out the "3" endings.I cant bring myself finish my 1st run threw I'm that upset


@cccosby no matter how you may end up feeling, you should experience things yourself before deciding. How far are you? #justmy2cents



@JessicaMerizan I'm 1/2 threw. I stopped so I don't have to see my shep that I have played w/ for yrs end like that. I feel ill from it.


@cccosby when more people have played, I'll share my take. For now, I'll say it's open enough to interpret that I felt good about my end.

................. ?


Edit: I don't know how to do all that linking thingys so if some one can feel free 2

Modifié par allyon, 11 mars 2012 - 03:36 .

[Atraiyu Wrynn]

christrek1982 wrote...

Beldamon wrote...

http://www.gamezone....w-mass-effect-3

interview by the community manager. :/ About the only hint of this reaction is 'people who react before they have all the facts'.

so is she saying we don't have all the facts?  so what are we missing?

We are not supposed to play the game for ourselves and make a judgement.  We should look at all the 10 out of 10 reviews they are getting.  Anyone else feel like video game reviewers are utterly useless?  Like they fail to provide even the slightest real insight into what you might want to play or not play.  If they vanished tommorow as a profession, would any of us really notice?

[Bacusan]

Hello fellow Gamers.

I'm a big fan of ME universe. heck, my shep had a sweet run!

I remember saving my save games from ME1 as soon as i knew that doing stuff would be usefull for the future. Ah so young I was, and to think that the only things that i can choose now is the color of the blast. 

Anyhow beyond being silly I would like to state the following:

The lack of weight in choices:  It's a shallow game where you are supposed to choose from different points of view to get to the same path. Don't get me wrong I have no issue with the idea. But bioware promised to give us an amazing power "never-seen" with the choices we could make!
There I was proud with re-writing the Heretic Geths, Saving the Rachni Queen, doing tons of stuff, to only see them translated into a number on a datapad. (such as well you now have 100 points for the crucible beacuse you saved the rachni!)

Cinematic wise, The real fleet: I think I'm the only one with this issue. I took some choices in the game, For instance I saved the Krogan all the way, and thanks to that I lost the Salarian main force (i Think that's what happens) I Rewrote the geth with reaper code, I saved ALL of the quarians (even Admiral Koris or whatever) Heck, I even saved Elcor stranded on a random planet. I even recruited all of Arias terminus Fleet guys. My cinematic showed Asari, Turian, Quarian and Human vessels, Planet side, I only saw Krogan, Turians, and Humans. Really? after I brought the whole galaxy with me I only get to see a quarter of my forces? It bugs me... I'd love to see a geth saving a Quarian's ass, A Krogan being carried by two turians. Some vorcha doing naughty things to a cannibal. Some huge Batarian dreadnaughts crashing into a reaper because they are about to blow up. 

No Closure: Worst of all by far. I was expecting to get my shep sacrificed, He was kinda crazy regarding reapers, so I was not sad at all when my shep died. Thing is All my homies where stranded on some weird planet. How come? Tali and Garrus where with me when the reaper fired his laser of doom. How on earth did they teleport back to the normandy?! and after that credits show up. What the hell happened with those guys? Ok maybe their story is opened to keep a franchise possibility. But still, what's the deal with all the earth and systems. I understand that this depends on the ending but the final movie shows not that much information on what the is going on. And there should be more info, because in the end this is the Last ME -with shep- as far as I know, therefore we should get a clear view as to what or how everything is doing at the end of the game.

well those are the main stuff i can think of ATM.
thanks for reading me out.

[lastpatriot]

Copperbolt wrote...

Here here, I don't care if it's unrealistic and cliche' I want the happy ending where I kick back with my friends and loved ones and shoot bottles with Garrus!

That's what I want as well.  My Shepard deserves better than this garbage.

[Lparsons7641]

I would have at least wanted to see some of the squaddies in London. Just a little, not a lot Bioware, but at least let us know they are there. At least something that says "thanks for putting the effort in not to beat the game in 4 hours and skip the dialogue"

Samara and some Asari facing down a Banshee
Jack Shock-waving a street-full of husks with her kids making barriers saving some wounded marines and turians.
Captain Kirahee and STG ambushing some cannibals with precision cross fire
Zaeed and Aria's mercs giving hell to some brutes
Geth prime covering some falling back Turians/Humans, being destroyed in the process

One dreadnaught from each fleet (The Destiny Ascension, Turian, Quarian, Human) blasting a reaper apart.

[DifferentD17]

Polat995 wrote...

Ok, let's say it is the real ending. Then how the hell can I fire normal pistol more than 50 times without changing thermal clip?

And why did you take all your armor off. It didn't just fly off, the soldiers on the ground dead still had armor on.

[MrJu1c3]

IndelibleJester wrote...

I don't care if you want to call it a Disney ending or not, the OPTION, the CHOICE, should have been there. More options, more choices, more closure.

Exactly.
They took the easy way out.

[Ramux]

I don't even know what to say, to think over 250+ hours of gameplay and story, years invested into a beautifully designed galaxy down to the finest details, has ended like this. I'm not really here to complain or explain what went wrong, I think everyone has done a good enough job of that already. I'll just add my anguish as another +1 and look back to ME1 and Bioware before they too were indoctrinated by the "Reapers."

Modifié par Ramux, 11 mars 2012 - 03:38 .

[Beldamon]

goose2989 wrote...

NPH11 wrote...

Beldamon wrote...

http://www.gamezone....w-mass-effect-3

interview by the community manager. :/ About the only hint of this reaction is 'people who react before they have all the facts'.

It's been about 5 days since the game shipped in North America. We've got the facts we needed. If we're lacking facts, it's because Bioware isn't telling us them.

Don't forget this survey either, guys.

I realize that Bioware may have some future DLC already planned, but do they really expect us to stay patient after dropping this on our laps? That is just asking for too much faith, and it's a shame the interviwer didn't ask some questions to put her on the spot more. 

Just remember, everyone; be polite about all the anger and frustration and dissappoinment we have. We won't get anywhere with threats. 

Star voting in polls, posting in forums, joining the right Facebook and Twitter pages (I have a link to each) and just make our voices heard. If Bioware wants to make some more money, they have the chance now.

Yes please keep all repsonses civil! 

And please remember to post to the offical reivew thread!  That thread is really a lot shorter than it should be.


And before I am accused of dishonesty, please do read the entire
interview I referenced above.  I took the fragment I quoted a bit out of
context (she was explaining that she genuinely loves the fans).   It
doesn't change the fact I am still dissapointed that the first
semi-official interview post-release from someone somewhat tied to the
game doesn't even reference the fan reaction.

Modifié par Beldamon, 11 mars 2012 - 03:39 .

[christrek1982]

you know some say they like the dark hero dies ending others say they want the happily ever after like me. why cant we have the choice of eaither? was it that hard to work out I'm shocked that the choice was not there at all and thats why i'm so angery and feel all I have done was to give shep and crew the best chance to live at the end and all that was just thrown back in my face for the sake of what? Dark drama? bitter ending?

[Gamer Genocider]

Anybody else wonder that they had he relays destroyed and everyone die to open up a future Mass Effect game with new species that evolved over thousands of years? A new cycle that you fought for?

[VerdantSF]

lastpatriot wrote...

Copperbolt wrote...

Here here, I don't care if it's unrealistic and cliche' I want the happy ending where I kick back with my friends and loved ones and shoot bottles with Garrus!

That's what I want as well.  My Shepard deserves better than this garbage.

Mine, too.  This game was all about choices.  We should have had a choice between a tragic, bleak ending, or one with a bit more hope.  Because, you know, Bioware said our actions in the game mattered.  Ugh.

[wook77]

infinitekilan wrote...

This is the first post I have ever made on any of BioWare's forums. I made this account solely for this purpose.

I want to believe. I want to have hope. This can't be the end. We deserve more.

I want to believe BioWare forced this out to meet deadlines, because EA is the video game equivalent of Reapers, destroying everything they come in contact with. I want to believe that the developers wouldn't betray us like this, and have solutions in the works.

I've seen the twitter feeds and responses from devs. I don't pretend to know what they have planned for ME3's future, but I hope it's the ending Shepard and his crew deserves. The endings the fans deserve. I hope they realize that this game was not just about stopping the Reapers, no matter the cost. It was about stopping the Reapers, and being able to have everything you have worked toward with everyone you know have meaning. To have the choices that have been made actually matter. To have depth. To have closure.

Shepard deserved better. He deserved to survive and finally experience happiness with the love of his life. He deserved to walk back out onto the battlefield of Earth, and see everything and everyone he saved. He deserved the unthinkable fame and respect that comes with doing something so monumental, that words cannot be spoken to do it justice.

Liara, Ash, Garrus, and Tali deserved better. The Krogans deserve to have their children. The Quarians deserve their homeworld. The entire galaxy deserves to still be able to function, after uniting and banding together to stop the single greatest threat life itself has ever faced.

BioWare, you championed the cause of choice throughout the entire trilogy. You championed romance, friendship, alliance, loyalty, and all of the emotions that come with them. You made us fall in love in so many ways, and in doing so, made Shepard's story our own. In the end, the choices, romance, frienships, alliances, loyalties, and emotions were all for naught. You took everything we held dear within your universe that is Mass Effect, and destroyed it at the last possible moment. Something so unthinkable that we couldn't even fathom it. We refused to believe it, slowly limping around the Crucible, looking for the solution to our story that we had been working so hard to achieve. And it wasn't there.

The Mass Effect Trilogy could have been legendary, taking its place among the ranks of the greatest stories ever told. It came so close, too.

It's still possible. Do the right thing, BioWare. Put as much effort into giving this game the ending(s) it truly deserves as you have put into the entire trilogy itself.

This xabillion. I just replayed the segment with curing the Genophage and ugh, tears streaming down my face because Mordin's sacrifice of himself means nothing if the Krogan don't get to have the chance to have those children. All that work means nothing if you get stuck with those endings. Poor, poor Mordin and Eve. Gah. I'm tearing up right now, tbh, and it's been a day since I replayed that scene.

[cannedcream]

Just replayed the ending to watch a different outcome.

That... that was a mistake.

It's like having a cavity and you keep sucking air through it to see if it still hurts...

[rogueagent6]

Kitten Tactics wrote...

Please indulge us crazies for a moment. The following is a partial list of reasons we believe the ending is a hallucination. I promise if you read it, it will make more sense than you think.

-The endgame scenario is Indoctrination/Manipulation from the Reapers (Harbinger) trying to force you into choosing to let the Reapers live. Shepard is not awake during the final scenes.

-Choosing Control - You can not control them, they control you. Shepard says as much to the Illusive Man moments earlier.

-Choosing Synthesis - Allows everyone in the galaxy to be manipulated by Reaper code, like they have done to the Geth multiple times now.

-Choosing Destroy - Breaks the hold the reapers have on Shepard's mind.

-Choosing to destroy all synthetic life option is more Renegade in appearence. Controlling the Reapers is more Paragon in appearence. The Illusive Man's choice should not be Paragon colors, just as Anderson's choice should not be Renegade. The reapers are saying that Destroy is the worst, Control is worse, and Synthesis is the best. They want you to fail.

-Stating that all sythetic life will be destroyed will give you pause; destroying the Geth can force you to a different conclusion. This choice exists for the illusion of choice; the other choices are ment to sound better.

-In Synthesis and Control, the various energies cause Shepard to turn black and start to appear VERY husk-like. This does not happen in Destroy because Destroy is the only option in which Shepard is not falling under Reaper control.

-Shepard wakes up after Destroy, because the Reaper's hold is diminished. Shepard does not awake in the other 2 "endings" because you are fully indoctrinated by the choices you made to allow the Reapers to win. "Assuming Control!"

-How would the reapers (or anything really) know to use the image of the child unless they were inside Shepard's head?

-The child does not actually exist. He is an attempt to indoctrinate Shepard. Nobody but Shepard ever sees or interacts with the child.

-When Anderson calls for Shepard at the beginning of the game, when Shepard is talking to the child, Shepard turns back and the child is gone. Shepard has been "snapped out of it".

-When Shepard turns towards Anderson after being "snapped out of it", a growl is heard. In the third novel, when Greyson resisted the reapers they would make a growling noise once they realized they didn't have him under complete control.

-During Shepard's final dream with the child, chatter can be heard over the radio about nobody making it to the beam. Shepard is still in London.

-When Shepard catches the child in the final dream, they are both engulfed in flame. Going with the child (the reapers) means Shepard's destruction.

-Shepard has spent alot of time around Reapers. Soveriegn, various Reaper artifacts, the Human Reaper, 2 Reaper destroyers, the Artifact from "The Arrival." Its foolish to assume there is not some level of indoctrination.

-When Shepard wakes up at the end of Destroy, he/she is waking up in London, after being hit with the laser.

If you would like to discuss/contribute, please visit the thread listed here:

http://social.biowar.../index/9727423/

This.

The whole ending sequence makes sence if it was a mental battle within Shepards mind. And because of this I did go back and play the start to get to the kid. You do indeed hear a growl when Anderson snaps you out of it, what you don't hear is the kid moving backwards into the duct.

Also, it is stated throughout all the games and novels that ANY reaper tech can indoctrinate, and throughout the entire series Shepard is exposed to reaper tech all the time. I don't know how many reaper sheild boosters I destroyed throughout ME3. That also would explain why you only get the ending with Shepard partially burried in rubble when you chose destroy, because only in destroy do you win the mental battle.

Lastly, when talking to James Vega, he does ask you if you hear that humming...

Hoping this is the direction they went.

[VerdantSF]

christrek1982 wrote...

you know some say they like the dark hero dies ending others say they want the happily ever after like me. why cant we have the choice of eaither? was it that hard to work out I'm shocked that the choice was not there at all and thats why i'm so angery and feel all I have done was to give shep and crew the best chance to live at the end and all that was just thrown back in my face for the sake of what? Dark drama? bitter ending?

^THIS^. I fully agree with you.  Having a real choice at the end would've been nice.  

[AlphaJarmel]

Modifié par AlphaJarmel, 11 mars 2012 - 03:43 .

[christrek1982]

Gamer Genocider wrote...

Anybody else wonder that they had he relays destroyed and everyone die to open up a future Mass Effect game with new species that evolved over thousands of years? A new cycle that you fought for?

TBH i can't see myself buying ME3 DLC ME items like Tsherts or ME4 if they make one unless they fix the ending and make my choices mean something again