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[rogueagent6]

VyRianS wrote...

As it stands...

Total Military Readiness - 3925
Readiness Rating - 86% (based off Martyr’s dissatisfaction poll)
Effective Military Readiness - 3376

United Kingdom - 520
- UK Alliance - 400
- Scottish Fleet - 100
- Glaswegian Battalions - 20

United States of America - 760
- Oregon Engineer Section - 120
- Pittsburgh Steelers / Iron Curtain - 100
- Southwest Missouri - 50
- Southern Overwatch - 80
- Special Ops - 100
- Vermont Hippie Potheads - 50
- Pacific Northwest Hipster Battalion - 50
- Hoosier Cruiser - 20
- Maryland Vanguard Assault Unit (Raven Corps) - 80
- Michigan Medical Corps - 50
- Arizona "Geronimo" Battalion - 50
- Kansas "Battle" Chiefs - 25
- 77th PSYOP Company - 10
- SSV Pittsburgh - 25

Canada - 550
- Saskatchewan Mechanical Division – 50
- SSV Guelph – 50
- Atlantic Canadian - 140
- Edmonton Blood Dragons - 150
- Canadian Tundra Engineering Corps - 50
- Vancouver Island Covert Ops - 100
- SSV Sechelt - 10

European Union: 690
- Poland - 100
- Czech Science Crew - 50
- Czech Bio-Engineering Laboratories - 50
- SSV Orlová - 30
- Slovak Fleet - 100
- Swedish Fleet - 100
- Lone Turkish Frigate - 10
- German Fleet - 200
- German Pioneer Corps - 50

Russia - 150
- Russian Destroyers - 50
- Siberian Special Task Forces - 100

Singapore - 125
- Singapore Strike Team - 100
- SSV VyR - 25

Brazil - 520
- Brazilian Cruisers São Paulo, Rio de Janeiro and Brasilia - 150
- Brazilian Frigates Riachuelo - 40
- Brazilian Marines - 50
- Brazilian Jungle and Urban Commandos - 80
- Brazilian Militia - 200

Other Nations - 600
- Australia - 150
- Argentinian Fleet - 150
- Spanish & Latin Fleets - 150
- Israel Mossad Infiltration Unit - 150

Misc - 10
- Tamcia Frigate - 10 

Martyr's Dissatisfaction Poll

Google Docs Form

Facebook Group

Elaborate Hallucination Theory

Interesting Snippets about ME3

Should I start a cohesive thread to compile these links?

And to those who haven't started... VOTE!

You can add the N7 Colorado Mountain Division. I sounded off a few pages back, but it got burried pretty quick.

[Darkieus]

I know how you feel Rob...

[FsDxRAGE_v2]

Bigger websites have noticed us. Let's keep this up, our voices are being heard. They know of this very thread's existence.

[Kloborgg711]

Optimus J wrote...

Kloborgg711 wrote...

Another random thought, why is the shockwave so damn fast when Joker is outrunning it? I'm assuming Joker is in FTL, and the wave still catches up. This is contrast to when the wave is first fired. It's slow enough that you can easily see it coming during the final Earth scene, and while it looks pretty fast when it first fires, it's certainly not anywhere near light speed.

I think Joker is running from a wave shot between Mass Relays.
Still there is the doubt, why the hell he have the people that were on London helping Shepard to reach the beam on Normandy, and why they are on a relay route?

I think Bioware have lots of DLC already wroten and they left all holes in the plot on purpose.
 TIM's Skin, Normandy travel...

That's probably the only plausible (not reasonable or good, but plausible) explanation I've yet to hear for Joker's situation yet in something like 100+ pages of this thread. Joker saw the pulse, and high-tailed it to Pluto, and then tried to outrun it. What an ass, though, really. Still not like him to abandon a battle he's supposed to heading. I still remember Hackett clearly telling all his forces "No Retreat. This is it"

Of course that still doesn't explain why your ground squad is suddenly onboard, or for that matter why a pulse that tells Reapers to go home somehow destroys the ship. But I think we know why it destroys the ship. They needed to reuse that cutscene for all possible endings, it would have been far too difficult to show anything but the Normandy crashing on Pandora.

[christrek1982]

primalgoose wrote...

I have kinda accepted the hallucination ending. I so badly wanted Shep to come out of it with their LI and friends have a happy ending. If anyone deserves it, s/he does.

I so agree and as I have stated the lack of a choice is what make me so angery

[Sl4sh3r]

Just made these for the cause...

They're very simple...

American Fleet
Australian Fleet
European Fleet
German Fleet
Canadian Fleet

If you want any more made for your country LET ME KNOW!

Modifié par Sl4sh3r, 11 mars 2012 - 05:08 .

[Chatboy 91]

VyRianS wrote...

As it stands...

Total Military Readiness - 3925
Readiness Rating - 86% (based off Martyr’s dissatisfaction poll)
Effective Military Readiness - 3376

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Martyr's Dissatisfaction Poll

Google Docs Form

Facebook Group

Elaborate Hallucination Theory

Interesting Snippets about ME3

Should I start a cohesive thread to compile these links?

And to those who haven't started... VOTE!

Gotta add in the Edmonton Warp Infiltration Task Force!

Sl4sh3r wrote...

Just made these for the cause...

They're very simple...

American Fleet
Australian Fleet
European Fleet
German Fleet

If you want any more made for your country LET ME KNOW!

 

Canada please!

Modifié par Chatboy 91, 11 mars 2012 - 05:02 .

[CrimsonNephilim]

VyRianS wrote...

As it stands...

Total Military Readiness - 3925
Readiness Rating - 86% (based off Martyr’s dissatisfaction poll)
Effective Military Readiness - 3376

United Kingdom - 520
- UK Alliance - 400
- Scottish Fleet - 100
- Glaswegian Battalions - 20

United States of America - 760
- Oregon Engineer Section - 120
- Pittsburgh Steelers / Iron Curtain - 100
- Southwest Missouri - 50
- Southern Overwatch - 80
- Special Ops - 100
- Vermont Hippie Potheads - 50
- Pacific Northwest Hipster Battalion - 50
- Hoosier Cruiser - 20
- Maryland Vanguard Assault Unit (Raven Corps) - 80
- Michigan Medical Corps - 50
- Arizona "Geronimo" Battalion - 50
- Kansas "Battle" Chiefs - 25
- 77th PSYOP Company - 10
- SSV Pittsburgh - 25

Canada - 550
- Saskatchewan Mechanical Division – 50
- SSV Guelph – 50
- Atlantic Canadian - 140
- Edmonton Blood Dragons - 150
- Canadian Tundra Engineering Corps - 50
- Vancouver Island Covert Ops - 100
- SSV Sechelt - 10

European Union: 690
- Poland - 100
- Czech Science Crew - 50
- Czech Bio-Engineering Laboratories - 50
- SSV Orlová - 30
- Slovak Fleet - 100
- Swedish Fleet - 100
- Lone Turkish Frigate - 10
- German Fleet - 200
- German Pioneer Corps - 50

Russia - 150
- Russian Destroyers - 50
- Siberian Special Task Forces - 100

Singapore - 125
- Singapore Strike Team - 100
- SSV VyR - 25

Brazil - 520
- Brazilian Cruisers São Paulo, Rio de Janeiro and Brasilia - 150
- Brazilian Frigates Riachuelo - 40
- Brazilian Marines - 50
- Brazilian Jungle and Urban Commandos - 80
- Brazilian Militia - 200

Other Nations - 600
- Australia - 150
- Argentinian Fleet - 150
- Spanish & Latin Fleets - 150
- Israel Mossad Infiltration Unit - 150

Misc - 10
- Tamcia Frigate - 10 

Martyr's Dissatisfaction Poll

Google Docs Form

Facebook Group

Elaborate Hallucination Theory

Interesting Snippets about ME3

Should I start a cohesive thread to compile these links?

And to those who haven't started... VOTE!

Illinois here. Chicagoland area. Can't even bring myself to finish my first playthrough. 

[FsDxRAGE_v2]

You can add two to the Southern Overwatch.

[Zirobo]

magor1988x wrote...

Kitten Tactics wrote...

Please indulge us crazies for a moment. The following is a partial list of reasons we believe the ending is a hallucination. I promise if you read it, it will make more sense than you think.

-The endgame scenario is Indoctrination/Manipulation from the Reapers (Harbinger) trying to force you into choosing to let the Reapers live. Shepard is not awake during the final scenes.

-Choosing Control - You can not control them, they control you. Shepard says as much to the Illusive Man moments earlier.

-Choosing Synthesis - Allows everyone in the galaxy to be manipulated by Reaper code, like they have done to the Geth multiple times now.

-Choosing Destroy - Breaks the hold the reapers have on Shepard's mind.

-Choosing to destroy all synthetic life option is more Renegade in appearence. Controlling the Reapers is more Paragon in appearence. The Illusive Man's choice should not be Paragon colors, just as Anderson's choice should not be Renegade. The reapers are saying that Destroy is the worst, Control is worse, and Synthesis is the best. They want you to fail.

-Stating that all sythetic life will be destroyed will give you pause; destroying the Geth can force you to a different conclusion. This choice exists for the illusion of choice; the other choices are ment to sound better.

-In Synthesis and Control, the various energies cause Shepard to turn black and start to appear VERY husk-like. This does not happen in Destroy because Destroy is the only option in which Shepard is not falling under Reaper control.

-Shepard wakes up after Destroy, because the Reaper's hold is diminished. Shepard does not awake in the other 2 "endings" because you are fully indoctrinated by the choices you made to allow the Reapers to win. "Assuming Control!"

-How would the reapers (or anything really) know to use the image of the child unless they were inside Shepard's head?

-The child does not actually exist. He is an attempt to indoctrinate Shepard. Nobody but Shepard ever sees or interacts with the child.

-When Anderson calls for Shepard at the beginning of the game, when Shepard is talking to the child, Shepard turns back and the child is gone. Shepard has been "snapped out of it".

-When Shepard turns towards Anderson after being "snapped out of it", a growl is heard. In the third novel, when Greyson resisted the reapers they would make a growling noise once they realized they didn't have him under complete control.

-During Shepard's final dream with the child, chatter can be heard over the radio about nobody making it to the beam. Shepard is still in London.

-When Shepard catches the child in the final dream, they are both engulfed in flame. Going with the child (the reapers) means Shepard's destruction.

-Shepard has spent alot of time around Reapers. Soveriegn, various Reaper artifacts, the Human Reaper, 2 Reaper destroyers, the Artifact from "The Arrival." Its foolish to assume there is not some level of indoctrination.

-When Shepard wakes up at the end of Destroy, he/she is waking up in London, after being hit with the laser.

If you would like to discuss/contribute, please visit the thread listed here:

http://social.biowar.../index/9727423/

Now this is all well & good but why not go about setting this up from Mass Effect 1 or 2?

Also why does it seem so few others exposed to the Reaper tech over time are unaffected in the way that Shepard seems to be? Tali, Garrus, Joker, Ashley/Kaidan, Katsumi, Miranda, Jacob, Zaeed, and especially Liara?

If the Reapers had truly indoctrinated Shepard why hadn't they acted long ago? Why let Shepard get that far? Why not influence him in other subtle ways prior to this to ensure his failure? It's not bad theory overall but there's not enough grand setup beyond ultrasubtle clues. 

I'm going to take BW at the superficial level & say this was not what was intended. (The growl you hear w/the child- there is a Reaper right outside the building & the building is full of Reaper forces as you just had to kill Husks entering) 

I took the dreams to be a form of PTSD. Shepard has been fighting constantly for three years & prior to the events of Mass Effect all three Shepard origins have him seeing a lot of death.

Sole Survivor: Everyone in Shepards day to day life dies & he is the *only* one to make it out.
Ruthless: Everyone in Shepard's command dies.
War Hero: Shepard has to kill many many Batarians & soldier's fighting w/him probably die. (Casualties in war are unavoidable, the story doesn't go too deep into it other than that he saves the civilians, but what about anyone who fought w/him? Why was all the weight on him to succeed?)

Mass Effect 1: Shepard has to doom the Krogan to continued genophage, choose whether Ashley or Kaiden die, & choose whether the Council & thousands of Asari or thousands of humans die.

Mass Effect 2: Shepard himself "dies," if anything were to destablize Shepard at all wouldn't his own death? Whole colonies are disappearing, lots of people die, & there is the possibility that a large portion of the Normandy's crew will die. Alenko/Williams don't trust him. Shepard must sacrifice a Batarian colony. etc etc

Mass Effect 3: Thane, Mordin, Legion, Anderson, & on & on. 

I took the dreams to be a sign of Shepard finally being hit with a case of Post Traumatic Stress (I've had friends with PTSD & it can be incredibly painful). After years under pressure to me it seemed like a great choice in writing. This one childs death finally snaps Shepard (Listen to the voices during the dream sequence, they're often from people who died or about moments of death or choices by Shepard which led to possible deaths--- in my 1st game Ashley survived & much of the dream sequence was narrated by Alenko).

It doesn't *have* to be indoctrination, it could be PTSD (or a mixture of the two) & indoctrination doesn't solve many of the plotholes surrounding the game.

(Alternate ending the Catalyst scene never happened & everything after it was a hallucination by Shepard, humanity & all the races failed & the harvesting is completed- Reapers return to Dark Space & begin the next Cycle... I mean think about it. What happens when Shepard can't reach the console? He goes into the light at the end of the tunnel everything after that scene never happened & is a product of Shepards deluded mind as he dies trying to create a "happy/happier" ending in which humanity in some form survives)

Eh? I always assumed Shepard and crew weren't getting indoctrinated becausee they were already indoctrinated . . . by Shepard.

Maybe contact with that Prothean Beacon gave him powers to indoctrinate those around him? Makes sense if you think about how influential he could be simply the more time he spends around others.

[christrek1982]

CrimsonNephilim wrote...

VyRianS wrote...

As it stands...

Total Military Readiness - 3925
Readiness Rating - 86% (based off Martyr’s dissatisfaction poll)
Effective Military Readiness - 3376

United Kingdom - 520
- UK Alliance - 400
- Scottish Fleet - 100
- Glaswegian Battalions - 20

United States of America - 760
- Oregon Engineer Section - 120
- Pittsburgh Steelers / Iron Curtain - 100
- Southwest Missouri - 50
- Southern Overwatch - 80
- Special Ops - 100
- Vermont Hippie Potheads - 50
- Pacific Northwest Hipster Battalion - 50
- Hoosier Cruiser - 20
- Maryland Vanguard Assault Unit (Raven Corps) - 80
- Michigan Medical Corps - 50
- Arizona "Geronimo" Battalion - 50
- Kansas "Battle" Chiefs - 25
- 77th PSYOP Company - 10
- SSV Pittsburgh - 25

Canada - 550
- Saskatchewan Mechanical Division – 50
- SSV Guelph – 50
- Atlantic Canadian - 140
- Edmonton Blood Dragons - 150
- Canadian Tundra Engineering Corps - 50
- Vancouver Island Covert Ops - 100
- SSV Sechelt - 10

European Union: 690
- Poland - 100
- Czech Science Crew - 50
- Czech Bio-Engineering Laboratories - 50
- SSV Orlová - 30
- Slovak Fleet - 100
- Swedish Fleet - 100
- Lone Turkish Frigate - 10
- German Fleet - 200
- German Pioneer Corps - 50

Russia - 150
- Russian Destroyers - 50
- Siberian Special Task Forces - 100

Singapore - 125
- Singapore Strike Team - 100
- SSV VyR - 25

Brazil - 520
- Brazilian Cruisers São Paulo, Rio de Janeiro and Brasilia - 150
- Brazilian Frigates Riachuelo - 40
- Brazilian Marines - 50
- Brazilian Jungle and Urban Commandos - 80
- Brazilian Militia - 200

Other Nations - 600
- Australia - 150
- Argentinian Fleet - 150
- Spanish & Latin Fleets - 150
- Israel Mossad Infiltration Unit - 150

Misc - 10
- Tamcia Frigate - 10 

Martyr's Dissatisfaction Poll

Google Docs Form

Facebook Group

Elaborate Hallucination Theory

Interesting Snippets about ME3

Should I start a cohesive thread to compile these links?

And to those who haven't started... VOTE!

Illinois here. Chicagoland area. Can't even bring myself to finish my first playthrough. 

Same

[Graywolf633]

I just finished Mass Effect 3 about half an hour ago, and let me say this: BIGGEST LETDOWN EVER. No closure and no relatively happy ending for the galaxy... Makes me feel like everything my Shepard accomplished in ME 1, 2, and 3 was all for nothing....

I for one second the motion of having an alternate ending DLC in which we get the ending we want. I was ready for Shepard to die, but I didn't want these choices they gave us.

[dschenkel]

What George Lucas did to Star Wars in 3 movies, Bioware did to Mass Effect in 15 minutes.

Mass Effect 3 might just have the fastest Awesome to Suck speed in the history of storytelling. It's quite an achievement.

[Copperbolt]

Man nearly 700 pages of disappointment and the game has only been out for what four days? And even less in Europe, can't wait for when the masses reach the end, cause if Bioware thinks it's bad now, it is going to get a lot worse.

[ReapersSniper]

FsDxRAGE_v2 wrote...

Bigger websites have noticed us. Let's keep this up, our voices are being heard. They know of this very thread's existence.

Yes!

[JerkyJohnny14]

FsDxRAGE_v2 wrote...

Bigger websites have noticed us. Let's keep this up, our voices are being heard. They know of this very thread's existence.

Man this protest sure is picking up momentum. Soon it will be on NBC nightly news. I sure hope Bioware has a plan to fix this.

[Cossack72]

My Infiltrators United Against Unsatisfactory Endings unit is multinational; think this one got buried pages back as well.

Modifié par Cossack72, 11 mars 2012 - 05:09 .

[revaew]

New york 57th fighter squadron checking in. our bodies are ready

[Ramux]

(Alternate ending the Catalyst scene never happened & everything after it was a hallucination by Shepard, humanity & all the races failed & the harvesting is completed- Reapers return to Dark Space & begin the next Cycle... I mean think about it. What happens when Shepard can't reach the console? He goes into the light at the end of the tunnel everything after that scene never happened & is a product of Shepards deluded mind as he dies trying to create a "happy/happier" ending in which humanity in some form survives)

Wow, I really forgot about that. At one point I had on captions and in my dream sequence KELLY CHAMBERS asked me why I let her die. (I heard she died on Citadel, I didn't ever get the option to give her a new identity  ) I guess the reapers could use the people who died against him though, if they are trying to indoctrinate him. They use the voices of all the people he knows died to push him to give up hope etc.

Modifié par Ramux, 11 mars 2012 - 05:08 .

[TheGoddess0fWar]

Mass Effect 3
Pre End: Most Anticipated Game of 2012
Post End: Biggest Letdown of 2012

[cannedcream]

Probably already been posted, but it made me laugh.

[Goodwood]

Detroit Deathrattlers Infiltrator Unit checking in, +25

(Posted this earlier but it wasn't included in the War Assets thingie)

[DifferentD17]

Dragon's Reach sides with the Warden! Maker help us!

[FsDxRAGE_v2]

We are the small portion of people who have finished the game early. An avalanche of people will be finishing in the next two weeks. I am curious to see what happens.

[Garathe]

Sl4sh3r wrote...

Just made these for the cause...

They're very simple...

American Fleet
Australian Fleet
European Fleet
German Fleet

If you want any more made for your country LET ME KNOW!

Nice!  I like it!

Into the signature it goes!

Let's save the ME universe!  Let's get Shepard a decent ending!

St. Louis Special Task Group reporting for duty

Modifié par Garathe, 11 mars 2012 - 05:10 .