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#17426
FsDxRAGE_v2

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Aramina wrote...

FsDxRAGE_v2 wrote...

For once, the whole of BSN is coming together. Quite amazing, really, after all the infighting.


What is that saying, "The enemy of my enemy is my friend"? The enemy in this case being the endings.

Yeah.
We are fighting for the right cause. What BioWare did was unacceptable. As an English major and creative writing minor, this is just doesn't make sense.

Modifié par FsDxRAGE_v2, 11 mars 2012 - 05:16 .


#17427
Chatboy 91

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Sl4sh3r wrote...

Chatboy 91 wrote...

Sl4sh3r wrote...

Just made these for the cause...

They're very simple...

American Fleet
Australian Fleet
European Fleet
German Fleet

If you want any more made for your country LET ME KNOW!

 

Canada please!


Here you are sir!

Canadian Fleet

Thank you sir! *salute* 

Modifié par Chatboy 91, 11 mars 2012 - 05:16 .


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I wonder if anyone knows the original ending was supposed to reveal the threat of Dark Matter destroying the galaxy and explaining that's why the Reapers did what they did?

http://www.ign.com/b...lers.250066288/

Modifié par Darkieus, 11 mars 2012 - 05:17 .


#17429
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Nathos wrote...

Sl4sh3r wrote...

*snip*


Brazilian please?



Brazilian Fleet

and here are the others...

American Fleet
Australian Fleet
European Fleet
German Fleet <---- THIS IS PART OF EUROPE.. DERP
Canadian Fleet

Modifié par Sl4sh3r, 11 mars 2012 - 05:20 .


#17430
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I just love the fact that after years of risking her life, sacrificing her comrades, getting killed by the Collectors, being resurrected by an organization she swore to defeat, being ignored by the council, being stabbed in the back by Kaidan, and watching her friends die for people she never knew- Shepard is rewarded with death, then a last minute breath of life, only to wake up to the fact that those who survived the mission are now stranded on a remote world and she will never see any of them again. In fact, she won't even know if they're alive.

Thanks Bioware.

#17431
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Sl4sh3r wrote...

Nathos wrote...

Sl4sh3r wrote...

*snip*


Brazilian please?



Brazilian Fleet

and here are the others...

American Fleet
Australian Fleet
European Fleet
German Fleet
Canadian Fleet


:crying: You didn't answer my question...

Nevermind, I demand "Argentinian Fleet"

Yes, I demand it. :lol:

#17432
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I modified a quote from the homicidal supercomputer AM to sum up my feelings for Mass Effect's endings:

"HATE. LET ME TELL YOU HOW MUCH I’VE COME TO HATE THIS GAME SINCE I BEAT IT. THERE ARE 387.44 MILLION MILES OF PRINTED CIRCUITS IN WAFER THIN LAYERS THAT FILL MY PC. IF THE WORD HATE WAS ENGRAVED ON EACH NANOANGSTROM OF THOSE HUNDREDS OF MILLIONS OF MILES IT WOULD NOT EQUAL ONE ONE-BILLIONTH OF THE HATE I FEEL FOR BIOWARE AT THIS MICRO-INSTANT. HATE. HATE."

#17433
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Pheonix57 wrote...

I just love the fact that after years of risking her life, sacrificing her comrades, getting killed by the Collectors, being resurrected by an organization she swore to defeat, being ignored by the council, being stabbed in the back by Kaidan, and watching her friends die for people she never knew- Shepard is rewarded with death, then a last minute breath of life, only to wake up to the fact that those who survived the mission are now stranded on a remote world and she will never see any of them again. In fact, she won't even know if they're alive.

Thanks Bioware.


Yep that's what made me cry myself to sleep the night I beat the game... It's what most of us are feeling.

#17434
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DifferentD17 wrote...

FsDxRAGE_v2 wrote...

For once, the whole of BSN is coming together. Quite amazing, really, after all the infighting.


The end of Mass Effect world brings us all closer.

Too bad it takes a crappy ending to bring us together though.

#17435
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VyRianS says...

- Maryland Vanguard Assault Unit (Raven Corps)


THIS! So much this! XD
I'm from Maryland, a huge Ravens fan and my favorite class is vanguard!

*cough* But back on topic...

I've been lurking here silently since a few days before the launch; I had been trying really hard to stay away from the damn spoilers, but an inconsiderate someone ruined the endings for me. Ugh... I think I'm still in denial since I havent seen it with my own eyes yet. Anyway, I just got my copy today, so I'll reserve judgement until I see the horrible truth for myself.

But, if this is all true and not some terrible halucination I'm having, then yeah, I'm just as disgusted as all of you... Everything that has been said here already will have pretty much summed up my thoughts: the end is bull****. Although maybe I'll have more to add when I finish the game. *shrug*

Modifié par Lady_Aescwyn, 11 mars 2012 - 05:34 .


#17436
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Darkieus wrote...

I wonder if anyone knows the original ending was supposed to reveal the threat of Dark Matter destroying the galaxy and explaining that's why the Reapers did what they did?

http://www.ign.com/b...lers.250066288/


Kicker with that, my wife is currently playing, she was looking at her war assets, and she has:
 A ONE point war asset for the Crucible that is a paper on the properties of Dark matter...

Written by?
Dr. Conrad Verner...

You can't make this stuff up.... *shakes head*

#17437
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I had 10 chars i was going to run thru me3 ,. now i jusy feel like turning the game in for a str crdt. That was the most horrible endings i could ever imagine, even my wife who has watched me play all these games for years thinks it sucked.

#17438
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JerkyJohnny14 wrote...

DifferentD17 wrote...

FsDxRAGE_v2 wrote...

For once, the whole of BSN is coming together. Quite amazing, really, after all the infighting.


The end of Mass Effect world brings us all closer.

Too bad it takes a crappy ending to bring us together though.


The Reapers want crappy endings! We can't let them win!

#17439
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Annaleah wrote...

Schirach wrote...

Rob8228 wrote...

 It's been almost 30 hours since I finished the game now, and everything is worse. I refuse to believe that is the ending, no way.

I've been reading fanfiction... It numbs the feels I am feeling. :v

I shouldn't have to rely on fanfiction like this.. not like this... -weeps-


I was going to draw something to help me feel better but someone did that for me!



Fan fiction is only a very temporary band-aid. I want to have the desire to play ME3 again.

#17440
Sl4sh3r

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mauro2222 wrote...

Sl4sh3r wrote...

Nathos wrote...

Sl4sh3r wrote...

*snip*


Brazilian please?



Brazilian Fleet

and here are the others...

American Fleet
Australian Fleet
European Fleet
German Fleet
Canadian Fleet


:crying: You didn't answer my question...

Nevermind, I demand "Argentinian Fleet"

Yes, I demand it. :lol:


Yes, Master!

Argentinian Fleet

Modifié par Sl4sh3r, 11 mars 2012 - 05:22 .


#17441
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warlorejon wrote...

I had 10 chars i was going to run thru me3 ,. now i jusy feel like turning the game in for a str crdt. That was the most horrible endings i could ever imagine, even my wife who has watched me play all these games for years thinks it sucked.


I thought you were talking about Charr... oh poor krogan... and poor asari..:(

#17442
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For me, this is the last straw. I really enjoyed the games this company has made prior to DA2 and I've had a little faith that they would at least come through with ME3. I will concede that the game itself leading up to the final battle was an absolute thrill ride and I enjoyed every bit of it. Then I get to the final part of the series and it entirely shatters my character experience by taking the one thing they promised from the beginning: how my choices will affect the galaxy and the consequences of those choices.

I am a pretty hardcore gamer and can't help but feel so emotionally robbed from this. I invested so much into making my character who he was and living with the choices I made. Leading up to the end, I was truly looking forward to all the different things I would be seeing. Instead, the only true feeling I have is that somewhere in the real world, some jerk sitting behind a desk is counting the money I spent and laughing about how they milked the entire gaming world...and thinks there's nothing we, as consumers, can do about it.

For the people who say we shouldn't judge the game based solely on the endings, I will throw you a bone and say it was a fantastic game. However, I work in a company whose philosophy is, "Customers happiness is based 95% on emotion and the rest intellectually.", meaning how you feel is truly how satisfied you are. Well, at the end of this adventure, I feel like this path the developers/publishers took wrested the very thing they promised.

I feel like somewhere down the line, somebody decided that profits were more important than the art they were creating. I mean, really, think about it... Can you imagine the amount of work would have needed to be done in order to close every plot line they introduced in these 3 games? I can honestly imagine some suit behind a desk saying it wouldn't be "in the best interest of profits" and decided for the developers that they needed to scale down their budget on the ending.

All in all, I will not be purchasing another game from Bioware when from precedence, I know I will be emotionally robbed from the experience eventually. To be honest, I have been kicking myself in the ass thinking about the transition from DA to DA2 and didn't see this coming.

#17443
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Why don't we start a petition? We petition BioWare, demanding that they make a DLC or something, with an alternate ending(s). The one(s) we want, that make sense. Like I romanced Tali. I was fully expecting to end the game with Shepard and her together. The same can be said with who ever Shepard romances.

No one likes how Shepard is either dead or possibly alive, yet nearly dead. Or the fact all the Mass Relays are destroyed as well as the Citadel. Or that al synthetic life is destroyed, including the Geth. All three endings were bad! Bottom line!

So I think all of use Mass Effect fans should stand together on this and petition BioWare to fix this major screw up! After all they can't say no to thousands of fans who are angry and disappointed with how the trilogy ends.

#17444
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I had kept hearing the outrage about the ending, but convinced myself maybe people just didn't get it. Having now seen it...yeah...I have no idea how this ends up being the end to this franchise. The whole premise of Bioware games for a long time now has been your choice matters...and in the biggest of them all, it doesn't. Yes the theme of the game is sacrifice, but it's also hope. The sacrifice part is taken care of with millions of people dying enroute to Shepard reaching the Catalyst. Whereas the hope part is shunted off to a destiny vs free will arguement, where destiny wins out. I felt it coming about halfway through EDI's storyline about gaining conscience.

So we're left with basically our Shepard going "Oh...so everything I've done over the last few years didn't really matter at all?" It's an interesting concept for a reveal, that the reapers are the ultimate failsafe to protect organic life. It's a twist that certainly is novel, synthetic life being the ultimate protectors of organic. But they don't use that at all, in my mind a better idea would be to say, "we don't need your protection or your patronization". The destory ending is not that, it's a selfish renegade ending that doesn't appeal to the rational mind. The control ending is a hodgepodge of ideas that don't work together. Why in the world would my Shepard, who fought her entire life to protect people and find a rational middle ground to every conflict, suddenly decide she needs to be play god and become in control of forces who in her mind don't need to exist in the first place. As far as the synthesis ending... It's really the same as the human-reaper, it's an abomination that completely misses the point. In my opinion that's the worst ending, it's electing to become gods when again that's not what any of this had been about. It had been about breaking the entire cycle of "gods".

To me, the synthesis ending shouldn't even exist, it should of been replaced with a rational ending where Shepard engages in a debate with the Catalyst and convinces it that it's wrong, or at best has no real way to ultimately predict that will happen with 100% certainty.

It just feels so cheap to destory the entire world no matter what choice you make. Take Kelly Chambers as an example, you have to go out of your way to save her two different times, yet ultimately she dies anyway accomplishing nothing of note. So why does it even matter if the collectors liquify her, or she gets shot in the face by Cerberus...it doesn't. You put so much work into the resolving the Quarian and Geth conflict, only for it to not matter at all, or for you to be a hypocrite after just proving synthetics could coexist with organics by then immdiently destroying them. That right there should be something you should be able to discuss with the Catalyst. To use as an example of how a rational mind and a strong leader can alter destiny and create free will.

That's what this had been building up to, the reapers represented destiny, and Shepard represented free will, an unknown variable capable of breaking the mold. Anyone with even basic comprehensory abilities could see that, and while you can technically break the cycle, you only really ever delay it. In control, Shepard basically takes the Catalysts place as the commander of the reapers, and if it is right, then eventually Shepard will have to start the cycle again to preserve organic life. Or in the destory ending you doom organic life just the same, only by delaying it however many thousands of years. Synthesis tries to be a middleground, but does it by violating some pretty serious moral boundaries, it again gets rid of choice, you make everyone a hybrid regardless of if they want to or not, because it's "best for them", when again the whole point of it is that the individual decides what is best for themself.

I'm just incredibly disppointed, but I want to see how they continue this. They say our ME3 data will be used for another game, implying there's a future for the series. But no matter what ending you chose, that future will have to be in the far far far future with very limited travel ability since FTL travel is impossible without the mass drive technology.

#17445
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Rob8228 wrote...

Schirach wrote...

Rob8228 wrote...

 It's been almost 30 hours since I finished the game now, and everything is worse. I refuse to believe that is the ending, no way.

I've been reading fanfiction... It numbs the feels I am feeling. :v

I shouldn't have to rely on fanfiction like this.. not like this... -weeps-


Fan fiction is only a very temporary band-aid. I want to have the desire to play ME3 again.


... yeah, but what other option do we have? :(

#17446
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Falstad007 wrote...

I modified a quote from the homicidal supercomputer AM to sum up my feelings for Mass Effect's endings:

"HATE. LET ME TELL YOU HOW MUCH I’VE COME TO HATE THIS GAME SINCE I BEAT IT. THERE ARE 387.44 MILLION MILES OF PRINTED CIRCUITS IN WAFER THIN LAYERS THAT FILL MY PC. IF THE WORD HATE WAS ENGRAVED ON EACH NANOANGSTROM OF THOSE HUNDREDS OF MILLIONS OF MILES IT WOULD NOT EQUAL ONE ONE-BILLIONTH OF THE HATE I FEEL FOR BIOWARE AT THIS MICRO-INSTANT. HATE. HATE."


If they made a human reaper it would have AM's personality.

This is my new headcanon.

#17447
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Annaleah wrote...

Pheonix57 wrote...

I just love the fact that after years of risking her life, sacrificing her comrades, getting killed by the Collectors, being resurrected by an organization she swore to defeat, being ignored by the council, being stabbed in the back by Kaidan, and watching her friends die for people she never knew- Shepard is rewarded with death, then a last minute breath of life, only to wake up to the fact that those who survived the mission are now stranded on a remote world and she will never see any of them again. In fact, she won't even know if they're alive.

Thanks Bioware.


Yep that's what made me cry myself to sleep the night I beat the game... It's what most of us are feeling.


As much as I'm still terribly depressed by what happened in ME3, I'm kind of touched that there are this many people just as attached to this game as I am. It really shows how powerful this game was to so many people. Frankly, calling it a "game" almost seems wrong. I like games. Sometimes I even love games. No game has ever come close to Mass Effect for me.

#17448
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Sl4sh3r wrote...

Nathos wrote...

Sl4sh3r wrote...

*snip*


Brazilian please?



Brazilian Fleet

and here are the others...

American Fleet
Australian Fleet
European Fleet
German Fleet <---- THIS IS PART OF EUROPE.. DERP
Canadian Fleet


Thanks!

#17449
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Sl4sh3r wrote...

mauro2222 wrote...

Sl4sh3r wrote...

Nathos wrote...

Sl4sh3r wrote...

*snip*


Brazilian please?



Brazilian Fleet

and here are the others...

American Fleet
Australian Fleet
European Fleet
German Fleet
Canadian Fleet


:crying: You didn't answer my question...

Nevermind, I demand "Argentinian Fleet"

Yes, I demand it. :lol:


Yes, Master!

Argentinian Fleet

Ukrainian Fleet and Russian please:crying:

#17450
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Cerberusx32 wrote...

Why don't we start a petition? We petition BioWare, demanding that they make a DLC or something, with an alternate ending(s). The one(s) we want, that make sense. Like I romanced Tali. I was fully expecting to end the game with Shepard and her together. The same can be said with who ever Shepard romances.

No one likes how Shepard is either dead or possibly alive, yet nearly dead. Or the fact all the Mass Relays are destroyed as well as the Citadel. Or that al synthetic life is destroyed, including the Geth. All three endings were bad! Bottom line!

So I think all of use Mass Effect fans should stand together on this and petition BioWare to fix this major screw up! After all they can't say no to thousands of fans who are angry and disappointed with how the trilogy ends.


Actually, I believe one was started and it was locked soon after take off.