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Rob8228 wrote...

Chatboy 91 wrote...

Rob8228 wrote...


TamiBx wrote...

Exactly. The romance subplot in ME3 was definitely my favorite of all the ME games, and it was amazing. Also, the characters have more natural movements and facial expressions, so it made it so much better and cuter. It was well written, and the goodbyes right before the final battle made me cry...:crying:
My mom and I were crying together (yes, I played ME3 with my mom sitting on the couch behind me...the beauty of being on spring break from college)


Me too, especislly with Garrus. I absolutely lost control.


**** man, Garrus was the absolute definition of a bro in ME3. The target practice on the citadel was brilliant, and that final goodbye was heart wrenching. When Harbinger hit, I was so worried about him and Liara. But of course, deus ex machina messed everything up, and I don't really know what happened to them. I saw Liara step off the ship though, not that it made any sense.


Yep, Garrus was like a brother. That's why that exchange was ripping my heart out.


Garrus is the pure definition of Bro.

And I am so glad, SO GLAD, that I was giving the chance for my Shepard to hang out with him, and not only that, but straight up TELL him that he was 'my' best friend.

Beautiful.

#17702
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Preaching to the choir here, I know but...

The ending. Dear god, the ending! What. The. Fark. I mean... I think actually managed to ruin the entire series for me. All of that work doing completion runs with my One True Shepard. All of that investment of time and emotion. And none of it mattered. The endings are the same for everyone - paragon and renegade, completionist and speed-runner, ME2 final mission party-survival or a near-total wipe- and all of them suck, and not in a satisfying 'heroic sacrifice at a terrible cost' or a 'I hated it but did what had to be done' kind of way.

Each choice on offer was effectively a surrender for my paragon Shep who has been to hell and back, fighting to the bitter end all the way to keep her ideals. Destroy all synthetic life? Goddamnit, I just spent half of ME2 proving that synthetics don't just want to kill all humans, and again in ME3 proving that synthetics and organics can actually get along. What total bulldust.

Control the Reapers by effectively becoming them? The whole moral of the Cerberus storyline is that unchecked power corrupts even the strongest of ideals and leads to the creation of even greater atrocities than you seek to prevent; and that you can only ride the tiger for so long before it turns on you and devours you. Merge organic and synthetic life together into a new whole? You know, between the Joker/EDI romance, the mind-trip into the Geth server and the massive amount of cybernetics plugged into my Shep's body (as you yourself pointed out, glowing blue annoying child), we're doing quite well at that ourselves, thank you. We would like to continue doing so, at our own pace, in our own time. Besides, isn't your cybernetics tech/software the one that robs everything it touches of their free-will?

The whole thing also flies in the face of what I took to be one of the greater over-arching themes of the Mass Effect universe: the transition from adolescence to adulthood. The council races are a pack of squabbling teens who are forced to rebel and grow up after realizing that their parents are not perfect, and - worse - are no longer acting in their best interests. It's a theme we see reflected in several of the key characters of the series. Miranda flees her controlling, ego-maniacal father and ultimately kills him. Liara quietly rebels against Benezia all of her life, and later has to come to terms with the fact that her mother was deeply, deeply flawed. A second blow comes when she realises that the Protheans, who are largely father figure to the council races, weren't the benevolent paragons she'd idealised them to be.  Tali spends a great chunk of her life trying to make up for her father's mistakes, only to realize that she has to stop living for him and start living for herself. Jacob's father goes so far 'round the twist that has to be put down. Ashley lives perpetually in her father's shadow until she is forced to step up and surpass him. And the ending effectively reduces the council races to a state of enforced childhood again, like someone who's forced to move back in with their parents after living on their own. "Stop having a temper tantrum - mommy and daddy are here now and will make it all better."  The whole point was to break the council races out of their box, and the ending put them right back in it.

I'm tempted to replay the final chapter again (no save points! argh!) just so I can shoot that goddamn glowing starchild thing in the face. Actually... has anyone tried that? Maybe it offers another, better ending...


Very well said. We all feel your pain.

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 Hold the line men.  Eventually Bioware and their evil EA ilk will be forced to listen to us.  Alienating fans is a bad business strategy and, if they are truly in this only for business, they will soon recognize that.

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Puppet_Guy wrote...

J5550123 wrote...

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Am I the only one who felt something go horribly wrong when Hackett says, "Shepard, the Crucible isn't firing"?


Not just you...  Although I had entertained the idea that Shepard sacrificed him/herself as a sort of power source so it could fire or something...  Made more sense in my head than it did typing it down.  <_<


No no.  You're right.  I thought one possible outcome is that Shepard IS the catalyst and that s/he was needed to fire it.


That was my first guess. I really hope Bioware listens and gives us a Disney happy ending with our lovei nterest. Lol.


Honestly?  I could handle there NOT being a disney-esque ending...  Although I probably wouldn't complain.


Well a lot of people seem to want it, including me so I thought it would be nice.

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 For all who are new to this thread, here are the links that matter.

Martyr's Dissatisfaction Poll (Reaching 12k+ votes and rising fast!)

Change.Org Petition for an Ending DLC 

Google Docs Form

Facebook Group

Elaborate Hallucination Theory

Interesting Snippets about ME3

Last Minute Plot Deviation?

Hitler's Response to the ME3 Endings

Don't forget to vote!

Modifié par VyRianS, 11 mars 2012 - 06:50 .


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When I beat the game Thursday morning I went to sleep feeling numb (woke up the same way). Friday I was feeling depressed. Now today I'm sitting here with my recently restarted (ME1) renegade Shep playing him like a soft heart paragon.

For such a great series to fall apart in the final ten minutes leaves me feeling unbelievably cheated.

Is it too much to ask to have my little blue babies?

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Book buster wrote...
I'm tempted to replay the final chapter again (no save points! argh!) just so I can shoot that goddamn glowing starchild thing in the face. Actually... has anyone tried that? Maybe it offers another, better ending...


Oh, we ALL tried that.

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Honestly, I'm more perplexed than anything else.

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I hope that any new DLC comes with copious amounts of closure, sense, logic, and variety. 

And I really hope Einstein is wrong here:


"No problem can be solved from the same level of consciousness that created it."

Modifié par GSS115, 11 mars 2012 - 06:56 .


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J5550123 wrote...

Puppet_Guy wrote...

J5550123 wrote...

Trunks Bordare wrote...

Puppet_Guy wrote...

Pheonix57 wrote...

Am I the only one who felt something go horribly wrong when Hackett says, "Shepard, the Crucible isn't firing"?


Not just you...  Although I had entertained the idea that Shepard sacrificed him/herself as a sort of power source so it could fire or something...  Made more sense in my head than it did typing it down.  <_<


No no.  You're right.  I thought one possible outcome is that Shepard IS the catalyst and that s/he was needed to fire it.


That was my first guess. I really hope Bioware listens and gives us a Disney happy ending with our lovei nterest. Lol.


Honestly?  I could handle there NOT being a disney-esque ending...  Although I probably wouldn't complain.


Well a lot of people seem to want it, including me so I thought it would be nice.


I hear ya.  But like I said, for me, I mostly want closure.  A happy ending would be icing icing on the cake.
For me at least.

Modifié par Puppet_Guy, 11 mars 2012 - 06:49 .


#17711
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I beat it and here is my speculation.

The ending doesn't matter to me... Because it never happened.
The end is just a dying dream... You died in the charge.

The end didn't make sense because it was a dream and they never do. Thats why the guardian was the boy from your dreams. That's how the Normandy ended up in another system.. There is no teleport bug.. It's a dream. The dreams that haunted him / her were to let you know it was a dream.

We still don't really know what the crucible does.
Our next mass effect PC will be the one that makes it.
It never happened.

#17712
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Warhawk7137 wrote...

Honestly, I'm more perplexed than anything else.


We got you covered on that too.

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don't get me wrong, i was deeply involved with the LI interactions, but it seems as if the connection you made with your LI (refering to your dialog with like garrus and stuff....plus i didnt even know jack was in this game? what?) was way way way more "intense" than mine.

although as soon as the game ended it was like the movie where the guy is in the rain yelling "Sttteeeellllaaaaaa" except i cried out Liara. but seriously i think you guys loved yours more than i did.

i feel like a shallow schmuck compared to some of you

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Trunks Bordare wrote...

Puppet_Guy wrote...

Pheonix57 wrote...

Am I the only one who felt something go horribly wrong when Hackett says, "Shepard, the Crucible isn't firing"?


Not just you...  Although I had entertained the idea that Shepard sacrificed him/herself as a sort of power source so it could fire or something...  Made more sense in my head than it did typing it down.  <_<


No no.  You're right.  I thought one possible outcome is that Shepard IS the catalyst and that s/he was needed to fire it.



I honestly thought that as soon as they mentioned the catalyst. Oh, I wish I was right at this point.

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http://social.biowar...06/polls/28989/

14,036 votes total. 12,096 for new ending, 1,513 for the Normandy to be near Shepard/not stranded in the middle of nowhere, 378 to keep the current endings.

Dead even at a 32 to 1 ratio of "we want new endings" to "these endings are fine."

#17716
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I all for a Disney ending, that's all I've wanted. I don't want Shepard to survive Sovereign and the Omega-4 Relay and just die. I want him to get his ass pulled out of there by Joker and ride off with his LI into the sunset.

#17717
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Puppet_Guy wrote...

J5550123 wrote...

Trunks Bordare wrote...

Puppet_Guy wrote...

Pheonix57 wrote...

Am I the only one who felt something go horribly wrong when Hackett says, "Shepard, the Crucible isn't firing"?


Not just you...  Although I had entertained the idea that Shepard sacrificed him/herself as a sort of power source so it could fire or something...  Made more sense in my head than it did typing it down.  <_<


No no.  You're right.  I thought one possible outcome is that Shepard IS the catalyst and that s/he was needed to fire it.


That was my first guess. I really hope Bioware listens and gives us a Disney happy ending with our lovei nterest. Lol.


Honestly?  I could handle there NOT being a disney-esque ending...  Although I probably wouldn't complain.


In the end I want some happiness. Shepard with his LI, but the world needs to be re-built. However, if other players wanted a Disney ending, they deserve one. This is a game of choice.

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Generic Name wrote...
Is it too much to ask to have my little blue babies?


Or to build my quarian a house on her homeworld?

Not so much to ask.

#17719
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cannedcream wrote...

Rob8228 wrote...

Chatboy 91 wrote...

Rob8228 wrote...


TamiBx wrote...

Exactly. The romance subplot in ME3 was definitely my favorite of all the ME games, and it was amazing. Also, the characters have more natural movements and facial expressions, so it made it so much better and cuter. It was well written, and the goodbyes right before the final battle made me cry...:crying:
My mom and I were crying together (yes, I played ME3 with my mom sitting on the couch behind me...the beauty of being on spring break from college)


Me too, especislly with Garrus. I absolutely lost control.


**** man, Garrus was the absolute definition of a bro in ME3. The target practice on the citadel was brilliant, and that final goodbye was heart wrenching. When Harbinger hit, I was so worried about him and Liara. But of course, deus ex machina messed everything up, and I don't really know what happened to them. I saw Liara step off the ship though, not that it made any sense.


Yep, Garrus was like a brother. That's why that exchange was ripping my heart out.


Garrus is the pure definition of Bro.

And I am so glad, SO GLAD, that I was giving the chance for my Shepard to hang out with him, and not only that, but straight up TELL him that he was 'my' best friend.

Beautiful.


Yeah man, that whole sequence was amazing. Have to fight those tears again :P

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cannedcream wrote...

Generic Name wrote...
Is it too much to ask to have my little blue babies?


Or to build my quarian a house on her homeworld?

Not so much to ask.


Drinks on Garrus.

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This needs to be said, so may people on these forums have taken these endings way too much to heart. Cheated? Betrayed? Depressed? People it's one game, and one franchise your whole life doesn't end because the ending don't live up to your expectations . No they weren't that great, but I have seen much worse endings to a franchise that were much worse.

Like everything else on the internet people have pulled their dissatisfaction to unreasonable levels. Get over it and move on.

Modifié par THE_RABID_MOOSE, 11 mars 2012 - 06:54 .


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TheGoddess0fWar wrote...

cannedcream wrote...

Generic Name wrote...
Is it too much to ask to have my little blue babies?


Or to build my quarian a house on her homeworld?

Not so much to ask.


Drinks on Garrus.


I'd rather have them on Kasumi. . . probably will pay with Garrus's wallet though.

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Im trying to see myself go through another playthrough, I Cant see myself do it. Not unless there is some reassurence that I will get the ending i want. Cause I thinnk i might cry.

I just wanted to Live happliy ever after with Ashley in my one hand sitting next to me and a drink and Garrus on the other side. Thats the ideal ending for me :'(

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THE_RABID_MOOSE wrote...

This needs to be said, so may people on these forums have taken these endings way too much to heart. Cheated? Betrayed? Depressed? People it's one game, and one franchise your whole life doesn't end because the ending don't live up to your expectations . No they weren't that great, but I have seen much worse endings to a franchise that were much worse.

Like everything else on the internet people have pulled their dissatisfaction to unreasonable levels. Get over it and move on.


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Sounds like people want
The Sims : Mass Effect edition.