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sergeym1990

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balance5050 wrote...

I came to bring hope... Many people aren't realizing that if you meet the requirements to get the ending where Shepherd lives (destroy the reapers=break indoctrination) he wakes up ON EARTH... thus leaving a hint that the "true" ending is on its way.

shameless money grab but at least there's hope for a quality ending.


Shepard lives at only one ending. And i personally feel that ending if absolutely incompataible with Paragon character. 

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Joryn01 wrote...

I had my Tali LI and it was all taken away from me in one fell swoop. I'm not even mad. I'm just sad. Downright sad.


Shortly after ME2 was released, the devs hinted that the ME2 relationships might not be as meaningful as the ME1 relationships.  The exact comments were along the lines that there would be a "bonus" for those who remained faithful to their ME1 LI.

Now that ME3 is out, one could make the argument that the mere fact that you're able to renew your relationship with your ME1 LI is the "bonus"...  except that LotSB already let you do that with Liara.

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SonicAF wrote...

I know that my words will not affect anyone in such a huge post but I have to answer all three camps of fans:

1. For those who think it's a mature ending and there should not be waterfalls and unicorns(3%)
-at least 80% of "kids" want such an option. We have already made enough sacrifices like Mordin/Thane/Grunt's squad/Citadel population to deserve a chance. We have no chance. We had no choice. We have no hope during first two games anymore. You do not have to loose your selfdestructing mature endings but paragons need paragon's path.
2. For those who think we just need an explanation(11%)
-we do for sure. But it doesn't change the fact that people are not satisfied by choices. We need both adding firewalking and loosing endings. We need both explanation and influence of our own decisions upon the result.
3. For those who are angry about endings(86%)
-Mass Effect 3 would be the best game in this world if was not screwed up by endings. We have to respect Bioware for an awesome work and beg them to fix it, fix it, fix it, fix it, fix it...fix it, fix it, fix it!. We should do our best to force them into giving us satisfying end of such an epic series in MATURE MANNER - we have no right to insult them. This ending is a crime, but they still can make it better.


Exactly, very well said.

They can make it better, and I will be patient. I don't want to be I will be. As long as they own up to their mistake, and fix it.

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The current endings would work if ME3 was some standalone game. But it's not, how can the epilogue not even mention characters you've known for 5 years.

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Abram730 wrote...

TheGoddess0fWar wrote...

Rob8228 wrote...

TheGoddess0fWar wrote...

THE_RABID_MOOSE wrote...

This needs to be said, so may people on these forums have taken these endings way too much to heart. Cheated? Betrayed? Depressed? People it's one game, and one franchise your whole life doesn't end because the ending don't live up to your expectations . No they weren't that great, but I have seen much worse endings to a franchise that were much worse.

Like everything else on the internet people have pulled their dissatisfaction to unreasonable levels. Get over it and move on.


-snip-


Beat me to it.


I tried to beat you to the punch ;)
This is all coming from a guy who only has ME3 registered, Probably his only ME game. (Even more likely his only Bioware game)


It is just a game...  Really
I have played all 3... 
3rd > 1st > 2nd


Yeah- I get it, I know it's just a game, and part of me thinks "What the hell's wrong with me?  Feeling so broken up over a GAME!"  But really- I've spent five years of my life with these games, dipping in and out
of the ME universe when I needed a break from real life, or daydreaming
about what it might be like to actually BE a part of Shepard's crew, or
even Shepard herself.  I loved this seires in the same way I loved LoTR growing up.  I anticipated this game in the same breathless manner I await the next Song of Ice and Fire (Game of Thrones) novel, and now I feel like all the hundreds of hours I spent with it are worthless.

Someone else said it- and I'm stealing his words, but this explains it the best for me:

Aristotle's definition of a Tragedy is a work which arouses pity and
fear in the audience, resulting in catharsis. The problem with ME3's
ending was not watching people suffer, or face a terrible future. It was
that the ending offered no catharsis. There is no meaning to any of
what happened. Everybody's efforts amount to a futile gesture which
ruins billions of lives anyway. They have to die FOR something, or
BECAUSE of something meaningful. Here, they do neither.

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Abram730 wrote...

Tali was my LI.. she committed suicide.. took off her mask and jumped to her death.

You can't win them all... lol



Lol! Really?

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TheGoddess0fWar wrote...

cannedcream wrote...

Generic Name wrote...
Is it too much to ask to have my little blue babies?


Or to build my quarian a house on her homeworld?

Not so much to ask.


Drinks on Garrus.


Or adopt Krogan babies?

#17783
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To me, what lets me know that I'm not just overreacting in how wrong the endings are is my reaction upon getting presented with the last choice after the starchild AI abomination gives me the rundown on what the hell is in front of me.

Now, I'm by no means stupid. I go to a good college, I read lots of literature, I attempt to understand the world around me. I'm no genius, but I have always been VERY good at being able to come to at least a semblance of comprehension about things even with very limited information.

But when I was presented with the final choice, I wasn't angry, or in disbelief. I was just blank. My brain literally failed to comprehend what was going on. I understood nothing from what the weird AI child thing said, besides the things he out and out stated word for word. It was THAT incongruous to the rest of the game, that my mind just ordered full stop.

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Why do I feel like Bioware is pulling a Legion on us?

"We are building consensus...No data available."

#17785
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A lot of these posts remind me a lot of the great speeches given throughout the series. The speech Shepard gave as they took off on their hunt for Saren, the speech at the Collector base, "Hold The Line", Hackett's speech before the assault on The Illusive Man's stronghold, Shepard's speech to the crew before the final assault on the Conduit...

Each of those speeches was filled with a driving passion that few people can say they've experienced. Each one of these posts holds within them the same passion that is represented throughout the whole series.

The sheer amount of unity we are displaying is awe-inspiring. And our Fleets are still growing.

Keep the energy going. Hold the line!

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If Bioware answers us saying "Don't worry fans, we have new happier endings on the way soon. Be patient." Then the entire forum will erupt with cheers and praise for Bioware. If they say "Sorry, but we like the ending, so deal with it." Then I'm sure they'll lose lots and lots of fans and money.

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sergeym1990 wrote...

balance5050 wrote...

I came to bring hope... Many people aren't realizing that if you meet the requirements to get the ending where Shepherd lives (destroy the reapers=break indoctrination) he wakes up ON EARTH... thus leaving a hint that the "true" ending is on its way.

shameless money grab but at least there's hope for a quality ending.


Shepard lives at only one ending. And i personally feel that ending if absolutely incompataible with Paragon character. 


yeah but at least that part makes perfect sense though

paragon is more likely to sacrifice
renegage will put themselves and their goals first

#17788
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MoarToast4U wrote...

Rob8228 wrote...

Annaleah wrote...

I was considering starting a new game in ME3 but then I heard the romance music from the game via a link on tumblr... it made me remember all the beautiful romance scenes and how they all meant nothing in the end...
So I came back here.


Anytime I even think about turning my xbox on I can't bring myself to play. I feel your pain.

Glad I'm not alone. The romance scenes, Ashley's final goodbye to a Shepard that romanced her, and her tear-laced confession that she "doesn't want him to go" before she kisses him for ultimately the last time tugged at my heart strings and strengthened my hope. The reflection on this after I witnessed the "ending" broke my heart and shattered my hopes for the entire series. Replayability, as it is, is just not possible... too much pain. Everything was ultimately for nothing...


So many heart tugging conversations. We talked about it earlier, but it sticks with me. The whole conversation with Garrus was so moving, a drink in heaven, and so on.

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hmm 12340 for a brighter ending already in its 1st week, imagine how many in a week? double? triple?

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Abram730 wrote...

It is just a game...  Really
I have played all 3... 
3rd > 1st > 2nd


Yes, this is just a game. It is the product we bought for entertainment. And we damn well deserve satisfaction from it. And when you get such a crappy ending after a long playthrough, it ruins all the fun. It's like being kicked in the crotch right before orgasm. 

So i think that fans deserve a normal ending patch, not DLC. The current finale of the game is like a bug. Having it corrected is a right, not a privilege.

Modifié par Illabean, 11 mars 2012 - 07:34 .


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boys I've come up with something of a conclusion, Bioware purposefully ended the series in this manner to simulate the effects of reaper indoctrination beyond the game, effecting the actual player himself as well as shepard. It's pretty effective if you ask me.

DLC is on the way to give us the real ending we all deserve

Modifié par comrade gando, 11 mars 2012 - 07:31 .


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J5550123 wrote...

If Bioware answers us saying "Don't worry fans, we have new happier endings on the way soon. Be patient." Then the entire forum will erupt with cheers and praise for Bioware. If they say "Sorry, but we like the ending, so deal with it." Then I'm sure they'll lose lots and lots of fans and money.


Without a doubt.

How much do you think they would lose on potential DLC if they didnt fix it?

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primalgoose wrote...

J5550123 wrote...

If Bioware answers us saying "Don't worry fans, we have new happier endings on the way soon. Be patient." Then the entire forum will erupt with cheers and praise for Bioware. If they say "Sorry, but we like the ending, so deal with it." Then I'm sure they'll lose lots and lots of fans and money.


Without a doubt.

How much do you think they would lose on potential DLC if they didnt fix it?


Lots of $. They said they have an extensive DLC plan, but if nobody wants to replay the game due to the endings, then no one will buy their DLC. So they're screwed if they ignore the fans.

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SonicAF wrote...

I know that my words will not affect anyone in such a huge post but I have to answer all three camps of fans:

1. For those who think it's a mature ending and there should not be waterfalls and unicorns(3%)
-at least 80% of "kids" want such an option. We have already made enough sacrifices like Mordin/Thane/Grunt's squad/Citadel population to deserve a chance. We have no chance. We had no choice. We have no hope during first two games anymore. You do not have to loose your selfdestructing mature endings but paragons need paragon's path.
2. For those who think we just need an explanation(11%)
-we do for sure. But it doesn't change the fact that people are not satisfied by choices. We need both adding firewalking and loosing endings. We need both explanation and influence of our own decisions upon the result.
3. For those who are angry about endings(86%)
-Mass Effect 3 would be the best game in this world if was not screwed up by endings. We have to respect Bioware for an awesome work and beg them to fix it, fix it, fix it, fix it, fix it...fix it, fix it, fix it!. We should do our best to force them into giving us satisfying end of such an epic series in MATURE MANNER - we have no right to insult them. This ending is a crime, but they still can make it better.


A few thousand FANatics, isn't everybody.
I'm just saying that the people who spend all their time in the forums isn't everybody..
Not everybody are Fan-addicts.:P

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Abram730 wrote...

It is just a game...  Really
I have played all 3... 
3rd > 1st > 2nd


Thank you for posting here.

You keep this thread moving and strengthen the entire community by being a casual and having no feelings towards the game...

Us explaining to you what is wrong helps us show Bioware what is wrong..

Thank you for being ignorant!

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I'm a little bewildered by the "not having all the facts" issue. I mean, if they want us to calm down, why not release a statement?

"Dear disappointed fans,

The endings are not what you think they are. There's more coming. Hold the line!

Sincerely,
Bioware"

That'd be enough to content me. So what's the point in this oblique silence?

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Does anyone know how to get an article posted on the Mass Effect wiki? I know with Mass Effect: Deception, fans were so angry that they posted an open letter to Bioware asking for a fix/changes. If we could get an open letter on there for the endings, I'm sure that would help our cause.

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J5550123 wrote...

If Bioware answers us saying "Don't worry fans, we have new happier endings on the way soon. Be patient."



Similar to how devastated I was going from the best of the series to the ruining of the trilogy within a 20 minute timeframe, I would equally be filled with an incredible amount of joy if Bioware said something like that. As of right now, I'm just hoping for some confirmation that they're really listening. If they actually tell us they're coming out with new endings... I would probably almost cry with happiness. Just the prospect that it's not really hopeless.. that would be amazing.

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Illabean wrote...

Abram730 wrote...

It is just a game...  Really
I have played all 3... 
3rd > 1st > 2nd


Yes, this is just a game. It is the product we bought for entertainment. And we damn well deserve satisfaction from it. And when you get such a crappy ending after a long playthrough, it ruins all the fun. Its like being kicked in the crotch right before orgasm. 

So i think that fans deserve a normal ending patch, not DLC. The current finale of the game is like a bug. Having it corrected is a right, not a privilege.


Why not fix old yeller first.. The dog dies in that Movie... clearly it needs to be fixed.. It must be some sort of bug..  /s

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I hope they make a Broken Steel style DLC just so we can have a proper happy ending of our journey over these past few years.

Modifié par sumo390, 11 mars 2012 - 07:35 .