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[primalgoose]

Denethar wrote...

At least Gamble is careful about his twitter, Walters feel like he is either oblivious or having a laugh because we don't understand his greatness.Nah, I think I'll stick with following Gamble's twitter only.

I completely agree. Walters just seems to be ignoring the outrage and acting like all is fine. The -least- he could do was acknowledge that people are upset.

[TheGoddess0fWar]

Sailfindragon wrote...

I live in Scotland and have just completed the game. I have to say I throughly enjoyed the game. But WTF, the endings are a total disaster.

Welcome aboard.

[Aerial_ace901]

My main problem with the ending, besides nothing being explained after it, is that Mass relays exploding, so unless were playing ME a couple thousands years or more in the future well be stuck with either a prequel(which usually are never good imo) or something running along the same timeline as ME 1-3 so there be nothing particularly new. Unless the "its a dream" thing comes true which right now is the single ray of hope

Modifié par Aerial_ace901, 11 mars 2012 - 09:02 .

[BooMorpheus]

Bioware must have used some focus group testing with their "new players" they desire so much.
When showed the endings and they went: "Its great, now where's my money."

How else could the awesome writing skills bioware has produced for the past 2.99 mass effect games fail us so miserably for the last 1% of the trilogy.

[xDarkspace]

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[Abram730]

IndelibleJester wrote...

I'm just curious, how many people actually saw their companions that went on the run to the conduit with them dead near them? Because in mine, Garrus and Liara were dead and I tripped over Garrus and fell face first into him. I had to stop playing the game at that point to keep myself from ripping the universe apart.

And then I saw Garrus with EDI and Joker in the final scene...

dreams are like that...  It's not a teleport bug.

[ReapersSniper]

Sailfindragon wrote...

I live in Scotland and have just completed the game. I have to say I throughly enjoyed the game. But WTF, the endings are a total disaster.

Welcome to our world!

[Jared-H]

I've never posted on these forums but I have been a fan of Bioware and Mass Effect since the first game was released. I just want to say how disappointed I am in the ending too. I don't understand why Bioware ended the triliogy like this. I just wanted closure to the character I've made and closure to the characters and world I've interacted with for the past 5 years. I loved this game so much until the end part. I really hope that the whole hallucination idea is true because right now the ending is an incoherant mess with more questions than answers. This wouldn't be that much of a problem in some games that aren't story driven except Mass Effect is all about story. It's the end of a trilogy that was always planned as a trilogy so how can they not wrap it up or provide closure?

Modifié par Jared-H, 11 mars 2012 - 09:07 .

[Abram730]

Denethar wrote...

I wake up and the thread has 40+ pages added to it and 2000+ poll votes.....I do wonder how long Bioware will go without answering.

If I'm correct they can't... Just say "HOLD ON TO THOSE SAVES"

[Recon911PDW]

I just really hope Bioware is teasing us and that we actually get the real endings we deserve in the future, but why not just have it already in the game? This has been bugging me for a while now.
Even if it is a DLC for the REAL ending it would be awesome because I'm a sucker for paying more money.

Modifié par Recon911PDW, 11 mars 2012 - 09:14 .

[Lurchibald]

DrNegative wrote...

Something else I noticed while reading about alternative theories here. Being a big Dragon Age fan, I am always in my Blood Dragon armor. When I woke up to go inside the portal, I immediately noticed that I wasn't wearing it, and I was in the standard N7 suit.

Why risk breaking the 4th wall like that? Did it just fall off my body?

Did anyone else notice that or think much of it?

Because, This....

[THE_RABID_MOOSE]

LethesDeep wrote...

THE_RABID_MOOSE wrote...

Sl4sh3r wrote...

THE_RABID_MOOSE wrote...

I still say everyone is overreacting. The ending was what it was unsatisfactory. Leave it at that you don't need to make a 717 page thread declaring your hatred and and depression from the ending. More than likely their gonna pull a Fallout 3 with an epilogue DLC.

With the amount of people enraged it would be very profitable for EA.

You just contradicted yourself.

How would EA know about the amount of people that are enraged over this without a 714 page thread?

No I didn't contradict myself I was merely  stating an observation of what could result from this fan rage. Resultingly such a  DLC would could ease everyone's minds, and due to how much people are craving a different ending EA could capitalize on that.

So we should all just mentally rage over how unsatisfactory the endings are and hope that the telepaths over at BioWare pick up on the bad vibes? Then hope further that they figure out what is causing the bad vibes and release a DLC to ease the bad vibes so they can go back to bending spoons in peace? That's what it sounds like you're suggesting to me and that's stupid. Nothing is ever changed unless people speak up about it. Would black people have rights in America now if they hadn't spoken up 50 years ago? Would the American colonies have effectively separated from England if people hadn't had a rallying cry to stand behind? No, they wouldn't (yes I know it's absurd to compare those events to the ME3 outrage, but it's the big events that people remember). Therefore, if we want Bioware to change ME3 we need to let them know. This thread is as good a way as any other (and better than some I can think of).

Wait what? No you're misunderstadning what I was just pointing out. I was just inclning that an epilogue DLC could come and it would be profitable. I'm not saying don't complain, because clearly that's not gonna happen, there's just a huge overreaction to these endings, as they are not the worst thing that could happen.

Also it would be very naive for Bioware not to expect this kind of reaction to the endings before release, there must've been some point to making them as they were. Perhaps something is gonna be revealed I don't know, this whole situation is ridiculous any way you look at it.

[Aerial_ace901]

DrNegative wrote...



Something else I noticed while reading about alternative theories here. Being a big Dragon Age
fan, I am always in my Blood Dragon armor. When I woke up to go inside
the portal, I immediately noticed that I wasn't wearing it, and I was in
the standard N7 suit.



Why risk breaking the 4th wall like that? Did it just fall off my body?



Did anyone else notice that or think much of it?

the same reason why my assualt rifle always changed to the crappy defualt one in most cut scenes or pulling out the default pistol, when i spent 1/4 million credits buyiing a good one

Modifié par Aerial_ace901, 11 mars 2012 - 09:09 .

[laughing sherpa girl]

Wellllll, a couple things....

First off, lets all please keep in mind that everyone in here is hurt, pissed, enraged, betrayed and a myriad of other things. Lets please keep treating each other with the respect and integrety that has been a hallmark of this thread..

Second: Still nothing from Bioware. I hate to say it, but we really need to stuff the tears and anger for now and stay focused on getting those responses from bioware that we want, and figure out the best means of achieving that goal.

Third: I would love it if it was all manipulation by the reapers, but until i see an official announcement from bioware, I just cant buy it..

So, has anyone else here made phone calls, emails, letters to bioware and asked them point blank for an explanation?? That may be what it takes, ( and please, all the people sneaking in here from bioware trying to de-rail us, please, just stop.. being told not to assert ourselves is an insult. )

[TheGoddess0fWar]

They did tell us to hold onto our saves. Lets hope they don't drop the ball on this promise.

[MaleQuariansFTW]

I bet Dietz is so relieved the spotlight of hatred is no longer on him.

[LethesDeep]

Lurchibald wrote...

DrNegative wrote...

Something else I noticed while reading about alternative theories here. Being a big Dragon Age fan, I am always in my Blood Dragon armor. When I woke up to go inside the portal, I immediately noticed that I wasn't wearing it, and I was in the standard N7 suit.

Why risk breaking the 4th wall like that? Did it just fall off my body?

Did anyone else notice that or think much of it?

Because, This....

It defaults to the standard N7 regardless of your suit. I had a custom N7 suit and after the blast I was wearing a wrecked standard suit. Bugged me for the whole ending. The least they could have done was make wrecked versions of the other N7 suits.

[JustSaber]

I finished the game early this morning and am emotionally worn out.  I feel so empty inside right now.  The build up was so great, the stakes so high, then nothing.  Nothing mattered.  Not a single choice I made.  An illusion.

I need to stop being invested in these types of things; it seems like it ends badly very frequently.  To keep myself sane, I thought I would turn to humor.  If I remember correctly, this is basically the motivation behind the Reapers:


EDIT: oops, I will try again.



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Modifié par JustSaber, 11 mars 2012 - 09:12 .

[snekadid]

Aerial_ace901 wrote...

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the same reason why my assualt rifle always changed to the crappy defualt one in most cut scenes or pulling out the default pistol, when i spent 1/4 million credits buyiing a good one

that always bugged me, more so in this game than the others since i never used an assault rifle but every cutscene i magically had one XD

[Aerial_ace901]

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[infinitekilan]

MaleQuariansFTW wrote...

I bet Dietz is so relieved the spotlight of hatred is no longer on him.

I was thinking the exact same thing.

[Hjkor]

 

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As it stands...

Total Military Readiness - 3925
Readiness Rating - 86% (based off Martyr’s dissatisfaction poll)
Effective Military Readiness - 3376

United Kingdom - 520
- UK Alliance - 400 
- Scottish Fleet - 100 
- Glaswegian Battalions - 20 

United States of America - 760 
- Oregon Engineer Section - 120 
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- Southwest Missouri - 50 
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- Hoosier Cruiser - 20 
- Maryland Vanguard Assault Unit (Raven Corps) - 80 
- Michigan Medical Corps - 50 
- Arizona "Geronimo" Battalion - 50 
- Kansas "Battle" Chiefs - 25 
- 77th PSYOP Company - 10 
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Canada - 550
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- Atlantic Canadian - 140 
- Edmonton Blood Dragons - 150 
- Canadian Tundra Engineering Corps - 50 
- Vancouver Island Covert Ops - 100 
- SSV Sechelt - 10

European Union: 690
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- Czech Bio-Engineering Laboratories - 50
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Russia - 150
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Singapore - 125 
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- SSV VyR - 25

Brazil - 520
- Brazilian Cruisers São Paulo, Rio de Janeiro and Brasilia - 150
- Brazilian Frigates Riachuelo - 40
- Brazilian Marines - 50 
- Brazilian Jungle and Urban Commandos - 80
- Brazilian Militia - 200

Other Nations - 600
- Australia - 150 
- Argentinian Fleet - 150 
- Spanish & Latin Fleets - 150
- Israel Mossad Infiltration Unit - 150 

Misc - 10 
- Tamcia Frigate - 10 

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[Aerial_ace901]

MaleQuariansFTW wrote...

I bet Dietz is so relieved the spotlight of hatred is no longer on him.

after i saw the citadel open up like he said, i felt like i should take back some of the nasty things i said about him, but then i thought nuh he shouldn't make a choice based on scene

[iphoto]

Here's my whole take on this...I've been playing since ME1 and I'm heavily invested in everything in the games, the series as a whole and all it's characters. I cried for the emotional rollercoaster I was handed to me through Mass Effect 2 and 3. No game story has ever done that for me. I still think it's the best series I've ever played and I will gladly thank Bioware for that.

When it comes to the endings. I feel confused, angry, and even depressed a little bit. Bioware is pretty awesome for again giving me all those rollercoaster emotions at the very end. I think for me though, it wasn't that I felt like nothing I ever did or will do in the series even matters, in fact until I read it here I never thought of it in that way. I think I could have accepted the 3 ending options for what they were. Sacrifice was the name of the game that I think they knew was coming from the very start. Even if they DID change the endings due to the leaks, which is apparent but the overall arching options of having Shepard give his life up at the end and allowing the players 3 choices to do it stayed. I even expected it to happen that way (for all the sacrifice to be made), even after getting an unbelievable amount of hope from all my friends in the game and saying my goodbyes was the closure I knew I would be hanging on to as I went to fight for my death that I knew was already coming  I think  that element should have been placed just a bit closer to the endings though to prepare players better. It was probably an hour before I got to the endings, and by that point the emotional goodbyes you got from all your characters were starting to become muted as you fought your way to the transporter.

What I didn't expect was to be utterly confused by the plot holes or rather, my own confusion. I can't justify the ending to make it what I want it to be, even if they change it after the fact. What I only want to know is, was the ending plotholes done on purpose? Bioware is certainly aware of the diehard canon and that they'e been there all long with us, certainly they know more about what they intended than of us do, and know that some of it doesn't make any sense. They know just as well us how the endings are. If this was the exact way the endings were meant to be, then that's fine, fact is I think people are missing the point of the series and the endings as a whole.

Lastly, what I call the "final" ending is after the credits roll. People don't talk about it much I've noticed, and I've scoured hundreds of topics they focus on the decision endings to the story not the overall story. When I was explaining it to someone, the entire point I got from the series was this: (even sans plotholes) because of this one scene. At some point in the past, Shepard lived and died and saved the galaxy, and some of your crew crashed landed on a planet that's given to you no matter what ending you got. Which coincidentally has two moons (the same as the planet after the credits) In the future, a grandfather (a descenedant?) is telling his grandchild the story of shepard (the entire series was a single story passed down through generations of people, like a book) and that some of the "details were lost in time". That being the ending, the plot holes, and anything else they couldn't explain. It's Bioware saying that they're obviously making another game.

Also this isn't my attempt to justify the plot hole filled endings or make it better in anyway, or help me cope, as it's not the ending I would have personally written or chosen to justify the series but what I'm about to explain makes sense...to me. It's what I took away from the whole thing as rational unattached thoughts. Reading the series as whole and not convulated with feelings about the endings. It's just what I think and makes sense to the way they intended it to be. If so, I know they're not going to openly explain the ending....But by doing so, they're basically admitting the confirmation of ME4 if my theory to the ending is right and that another series would start another story (book) with commander shepard alive (some endings are giving you that) or dead in my first playthrough he took a last breath, so the following book or series might revolve around commander again, or even a decendant shepard. They can't even really admit which ONE of the endings was "the perfect ending" or the one that was meant to be the final one because it still confirms a fourth game that they won't and can't reveal yet.  Who can say really until they give us anything to know? Why do you think they won't comment on any of it? Alot of people here might feel pretty stupid when all of it is explained in another game that makes it well...makes sense. There's just no way to know, so writing it off now is stupid. It's 100% obvious that another game is coming. It's still frustrating that two things happened. The endings to the first series sucked, and that people don't understand the correlation between the endings and the end after the credits.

Also reading the entire series like a book as "commander shepard" in a series of stories...the endings make perfect sense and that if you're an avid book reader you can't tell me that a book series hasn't ended on some weird cliffhanger ending that just explains it in a following book or story (All those RPG story books come to mind). In the final ending Grandpa has been telling the story of Commander Shepard for the last 3 games and was only finally revealed after the credits at the end of the series. (book). The plotholes are the "missing details" for the next story he promised to tell. If I'm right I'm more frustrated with the fact that I have to wait 2-3 more years and a whole nother xbox to find out what the ending means, even if my Shepard truly is dead and the ending was what it was. I think people just can't deal with the fact that they left us hanging with what we got instead of a better cliffhanger or ending for another game to come out. It's a conclusion that gives closure to the series, but not the players. Which is what I think they intended to do was to give closure to both but backfired in the story process.

The endings won't stop me from playing the games nor will it keep me from buying DLC or more bioware games. It simply means that I'll still be waiting on another game to find out the continuing adventures of "The Shepards". 

Point is I just think people aren't paying enough attention to ACTUAL ending of the game and are instead focusing on the fact that they wanted all the answers as promised and won't get them for another whole game. (still frustrating I know)

Like I said it's not my way of coping. I'll take the endings for what they were, even with plotholes. It isn't satisfying, but I won't express hate or discontent for them until I know what the next game is about. The endings tell you it's coming, Bioware reps even said "it would be smart to keep your old saves". It would be dumb to abandoned the series now especially when the next game could pretty much undo the ending to 3 in a way that makes sense simply by that one line... "yes, but some of the details have been lost in time".

[Warhawk7137]

TheGoddess0fWar wrote...

They did tell us to hold onto our saves. Lets hope they don't drop the ball on this promise.

Not sure what's scarier, the thought that this is all part of some wacky master plan, or the thought that they're just completely winging it.