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DirtyBird627

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Trojan_33 wrote...

TAKE HEART MY BRETHREN!

I read the 'hallucination' theory and think it is completely true. I didn't even think about Shepherd's dreams and the Shadows whispering until then....Byne, pure genius.

http://social.biowar...index/9727423/1

The deep breath you take at the very end of the red ending is Shepherd waking up after having the hell knocked out of him by Harbinger. Read the post thoroughly, it explains everything. I firmly believe that Bioware just mind-f____d us. If I am wrong, forgive me, but it explains the nonsense ending options perfectly.

THE RED OPTION IS THE ONLY OPTION!


I hope you're right friend, I'm trying to keep the faith as best I can, I'm really hoping for an official response in the coming week.

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DirtyBird627 wrote...

Maj.Pain007 wrote...

The real ending should be destroying the catalyst. Because **** that little demon, That way Reapers die and your choices still mean something. Shepard still dies but I'm okay with that.


Agreed, I really have no problem with Shepard dying, I just want him to die for a true victory, not some Pyrrhic "win".


I wouldn't care if the ending didn't change so long as the epilouge stuff actually explained what had happened in the wake of the reapers defeat, tho i would like to see the mass relays not explode(and take what is proberly a big chunk of the galaxy with them)
and id love to see some continuity in the endings to, like how shep ends up from being in orbit on the citadel to back on earth in rubble, alive, also WTF is joker doing in FTL/mass relay jump for. Just thinking about it i could proberly spend as much time as i spent playing the game picking out the plotholes/absolute crazy retarded stuff in the endings

Modifié par Aerial_ace901, 11 mars 2012 - 11:52 .


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All this talk about a Happy Ending DLC [tries to say without giggling], but where's my Bad Ending DLC? My choices (and by extension happy ending) mean nothing unless I know I could have completely f****d it all up, and have the reapers win.

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wulf3n wrote...

All this talk about a Happy Ending DLC [tries to say without giggling], but where's my Bad Ending DLC? My choices (and by extension happy ending) mean nothing unless I know I could have completely f****d it all up, and have the reapers win.

An ending DLC (with bad and happy endings) would be nice. 

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A quick question to all the people who don't mind Shepard dying but want plot holes fixed and epilogue that explains what happened: Would you be alright with it being possible to have a somewhat happy ending where Shepard survives if you really put a lot of effort into preparing? Because I really would want that to be possible as well. Just trying to see what people actually want. More options are good, right?

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DirtyBird627

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wulf3n wrote...

All this talk about a Happy Ending DLC [tries to say without giggling], but where's my Bad Ending DLC? My choices (and by extension happy ending) mean nothing unless I know I could have completely f****d it all up, and have the reapers win.


You make a good point, really. I was talking to a friend earlier and we agreed that there should be at the least: A total win, some neutral endings ( which is kind of what we have now ), and a total defeat.

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someone just stated in another thread that "my install folder is missing a lot of materials (it's 11.2gb heavy and
it should be 15gb if those game specifications are correct).
It only came to my conclusion that they did this on purpose because they wanted
for all players around the world to have the same experience with real
ending after 15th of march (which is date when game comes out in Asia).

edit: I own ME3 CE with all downloadable content installed. 11.2 GB instead of 15Gb. Weird enough."

even the "no internet" crowd would get it unlocked.

Modifié par lex0r11, 11 mars 2012 - 11:55 .


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msmpsn wrote...

I never would have imagined that I'd be reading a thread like this instead of jumping right back into the game on Insanity after finishing it.


I've started my first one on normal difficulty because I planned to do the second one on insanity, just like I did in ME and ME2. Well, I played Mass Effect with all assignments at least 6 times, Mass Effect 2 easily 15 times and now... I can't even finish the first one of Mass Effect 3. I just killed Kai Leng (only Earth left) and I don't want to play anymore. There's no motivation. Why all those choices? For what? For nothing? For getting all achievements? No way. Besides, I can't even get those endings with Shepard alive because I didn't played multiplayer. It's not fair at all.


I understand a sad or dark ending as an option, but Bioware should have given us at least THE CHOICE to choose whether we want a happy ending, sad ending or I don't know, some ending where our choices matter. In simple words, now we can choose if the galaxy goes to hell in red, blue or green colours! YEY!

Anyway, I really hope that allucination theory is true.

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karambiatos

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^and why should it be 15gb?

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DirtyBird627

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Tyranniac wrote...

A quick question to all the people who don't mind Shepard dying but want plot holes fixed and epilogue that explains what happened: Would you be alright with it being possible to have a somewhat happy ending where Shepard survives if you really put a lot of effort into preparing? Because I really would want that to be possible as well. Just trying to see what people actually want. More options are good, right?


I think there should definitely be a range, from total victory ( happy Disney ending where everyone lives and Shepard has a happy life with his friends and LI ), to a total loss where everyone dies and the Reapers win. That would be what we were promised, the endings on the top end of the spectrum should be very hard to get , of course. There's room for several endings in that spectrum.

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Like so many others here I was (and still am) unhappy with the endings. However, the plot-holes
in the end, the weird explanation as to why the reapers were doing what they were doing, would have been much easier to swallow if there wasn't that feeling of hopelessness in the end. Yeah the reaper
threat is gone but the galactic community got shot to hell in the process. At least that's what it felt to me and judging from the posts in this thread I am hardly alone.

So, Bioware, please don't leave us behind like this. I assume you people had your reasons for
destroying the mass relays and if that's the case, give us a glimpse into the future. Show us that it was all worth it. Give us hope! Show us that the galactic community is NOT finished. For instance show us
how the survivors from the different fleets meet to to discuss what to do now. Show us how the different races are looking for ways to replace the mass relays or something like that. I mean you guys
didn't create all those different species with their rich lore just
to throw it all out the window in the end did ya?

And for god's sake give us some closure too. I would like to know, what happened to my crew. Not
just the guys that got stranded on an unknown planet with the Normandy but also the others. What happened to Jack, to Zaeed, Jacob or Kasumi? So if you're not planning any further games, featuring
these guys, please give us some sort of epilogue.

So once again, give us closure, give us hope!

Modifié par Cygolino, 11 mars 2012 - 12:00 .


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Tyranniac wrote...

A quick question to all the people who don't mind Shepard dying but want plot holes fixed and epilogue that explains what happened: Would you be alright with it being possible to have a somewhat happy ending where Shepard survives if you really put a lot of effort into preparing? Because I really would want that to be possible as well. Just trying to see what people actually want. More options are good, right?


My problem is not Shepard dying, but rather that his death looks pointless and out of character. Shepard never gave and always looked for best possible waym yet now he just blindly follow Catalyst.

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sergeym1990

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Also it will be better if ending fix will be patch rather that DLC.

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Rappeldrache

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German GamePlayer - site write about it, with Links:

http://www.gamecapta...s_Effect_3.html

:bandit:
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Modifié par Rappeldrache, 11 mars 2012 - 12:02 .


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Tyranniac

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DirtyBird627 wrote...

Tyranniac wrote...

A quick question to all the people who don't mind Shepard dying but want plot holes fixed and epilogue that explains what happened: Would you be alright with it being possible to have a somewhat happy ending where Shepard survives if you really put a lot of effort into preparing? Because I really would want that to be possible as well. Just trying to see what people actually want. More options are good, right?


I think there should definitely be a range, from total victory ( happy Disney ending where everyone lives and Shepard has a happy life with his friends and LI ), to a total loss where everyone dies and the Reapers win. That would be what we were promised, the endings on the top end of the spectrum should be very hard to get , of course. There's room for several endings in that spectrum.


Yeah, of course there should be a failure ending and some things in between as well. That's exactly what I meant, good to know I'm not the only one.

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Trojan_33 wrote...

TAKE HEART MY BRETHREN!

I read the 'hallucination' theory and think it is completely true. I didn't even think about Shepherd's dreams and the Shadows whispering until then....Byne, pure genius.

http://social.biowar...index/9727423/1

The deep breath you take at the very end of the red ending is Shepherd waking up after having the hell knocked out of him by Harbinger. Read the post thoroughly, it explains everything. I firmly believe that Bioware just mind-f____d us. If I am wrong, forgive me, but it explains the nonsense ending options perfectly.

THE RED OPTION IS THE ONLY OPTION!


That doesn't actually matter. It's still the equivalent of completely making up the ending ourselves. As mentioned in some of the previous posts and links, the main problem is that nothing you've done through the entire game matters. There is no references to anything you've done. And even if we pretend the red option is a decent ending, it's still only one ending. Leaving us with the most nondescript, unpersonal, lazy-ass ending in modern RPGs. Hooray.

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What i have a hard time understanding is why they are letting this speculation and frustration drag out. Most communication advisors will tell them to "diffuse the situation before i takes on a life of its own" which means act fast, regardless of whether they agree with the concerns or not. If they disagree then come out and say it and if they agree do the same. I understand that you cant promise anything, but i really think that Bioware need to make an official statement that at least aknowledges the things brought up, the must frustrating thing is the feeling of not being heard.

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Outreach117 wrote...

Good job bsn community, we may be gaining some traction. Check it out.

http://www.techgadge...oware-clarifies


What a missleading title... It's also wrong. You CAN get the best ending without playing multiplayer, it just requires perfect choices.

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Trojan_33 wrote...

TAKE HEART MY BRETHREN!

I read the 'hallucination' theory and think it is completely true. I didn't even think about Shepherd's dreams and the Shadows whispering until then....Byne, pure genius.

http://social.biowar...index/9727423/1

The deep breath you take at the very end of the red ending is Shepherd waking up after having the hell knocked out of him by Harbinger. Read the post thoroughly, it explains everything. I firmly believe that Bioware just mind-f____d us. If I am wrong, forgive me, but it explains the nonsense ending options perfectly.

THE RED OPTION IS THE ONLY OPTION!


I want this to be true but that means BW planned this and planned the real ending to be DLC something you have to pay for to see :(

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Mhgasa wrote...

What i have a hard time understanding is why they are letting this speculation and frustration drag out. Most communication advisors will tell them to "diffuse the situation before i takes on a life of its own" which means act fast, regardless of whether they agree with the concerns or not. If they disagree then come out and say it and if they agree do the same. I understand that you cant promise anything, but i really think that Bioware need to make an official statement that at least aknowledges the things brought up, the must frustrating thing is the feeling of not being heard.


Yea i know what you mean, feels like we're shouting at the top of our lungs and no one can hear us. I'm thinking its just because things really exploded on the weekend after launch, they were probably wanting to get a day or two off and then get back to us. Also, they probably want to be sure they say just the right things to us.

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DirtyBird627 wrote...

Trojan_33 wrote...

TAKE HEART MY BRETHREN!

I read the 'hallucination' theory and think it is completely true. I didn't even think about Shepherd's dreams and the Shadows whispering until then....Byne, pure genius.

http://social.biowar...index/9727423/1

The deep breath you take at the very end of the red ending is Shepherd waking up after having the hell knocked out of him by Harbinger. Read the post thoroughly, it explains everything. I firmly believe that Bioware just mind-f____d us. If I am wrong, forgive me, but it explains the nonsense ending options perfectly.

THE RED OPTION IS THE ONLY OPTION!


I hope you're right friend, I'm trying to keep the faith as best I can, I'm really hoping for an official response in the coming week.


I hope so too. I tried to rationalize the "Shepard alive" scene as the "right" choice. And as for the other two options, you can choose them, but since this is really a hallucination, you have a chance to make the right choice. I guess I got my idea from the Arkham City Catwoman DLC where you can choose to save Batman or leave him. You CAN leave him, but then it shows what happened and rewinds you back so you make the right choice. This may be a long-shot of an idea, but it's what gives me a bit of hope right now.

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Tyranniac wrote...

A quick question to all the people who don't mind Shepard dying but want plot holes fixed and epilogue that explains what happened: Would you be alright with it being possible to have a somewhat happy ending where Shepard survives if you really put a lot of effort into preparing?

Yes.

Modifié par CDHarrisUSF, 11 mars 2012 - 12:09 .


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I would be silent as well if I was Bioware. They're not going to release a new ending, so they have to come up with just the right thing to not ****** off people even more...not the easiest thing to do when all you have is bad news.

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The Catalyst only showed up now because of the Crucible. In the beginning a Reaper had to activate the Citadel, but that was because the Catalyst didn't intervene. With the Crucible that all changed.

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has anyone noticed, in the shepard alive scene the body has no head, so how can he be alive with no head?