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[DarkSpider88]

FridgeRaider88 wrote...

Whatever they decide to do about it, the culmination of 3 games worth of content should not be based upon this choice:

This picture is full of win!

[MrPuschel]

Rdubs wrote...

I saw someone do one earlier so not my idea but we should start an Internet meme: "Still a better ending than Mass Effect 3". Everyone take a picture of something horrific (but not depressing) and add "Still better ending than ME3" on it. We should start a dedicated thread where people can post.

I have a picture of a massive train wreck somewhere, I'll try to do that.

Like this?

www.dernerz.de/me3.jpg

[AlCord]

If you have facebook and want to join:

http://www.facebook....ngToMassEffect3

Modifié par DerNix, 11 mars 2012 - 02:48 .

[Mhgasa]

Dan Rosse wrote...

JigPig wrote...

Obviously you guys haven't gotten the perfect ending yet.

Still unfinished yet three-times better then the original ending (yes, it's just one with different colors; dont fool yourself people!).

Wow that was really great

[DarkSpider88]

DerNix wrote...

d-boy15 wrote...

I hope they put this back in the game. It's damm good, make me feel like Shepard is normal human
and why this get cut instead of that goddamm vent kid?

www.youtube.com/watch

This was the leaked version? Wow that is a good ending. Not that it is a good one but there is a dialogue with a touch of humor.

Wow that is so much more deep and emotional. They should have used this!

Modifié par DarkSpider88, 11 mars 2012 - 02:50 .

[CDHarrisUSF]

d-boy15 wrote...

I hope they put this back in the game. It's damm good, make me feel like Shepard is normal human
and why this get cut instead of that goddamm vent kid?

www.youtube.com/watch

Son of a ****... will you people stop telling me about the better things that got cut in favor of this crap? You're making me hate the "real" ending even more.

[DarkSpider88]

Sundown Native wrote...

I'd like to start this off by saying I'm in the minority about this, as I have no real problems about Mass Effect 3. Not even the ending.

I mean, I saw this coming the minute BioWare started saying that Mass Effect 3 would be the final chapter in Commander Shepard's story. I KNEW they were going to find some way to make sure he/she would never appear in anyone of the future ME games ever again. I didn't have high expectations regarding his/her survival, so his/her death garnered only a strung out "Damn" from me.

With that being said, I have the ability to see the other side. And I completely understand why everyone is so pissed off about how it ended. Judging from the amount of people who think this, it's only a matter of time before Mass Effect loses the weight it used to carry. That renders any other installments pointless.


What I'm trying to say is, the ending was good for the few, but not for the many. I'm pretty sure the needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few, and truth be told, I want Mass Effect to get larger than this.


So fix the endings. Because if this carries on the way it is? The entire Mass Effect franchise won't mean anything anymore. And neither will BioWare.

The thing is he didn't have to die. In SWTOR 1 and 2 the protagonist just goes off to the outer planets. You never know exactly what happens to them but it allowed the players to fill in their own story. We all knew this was Shepard's last game but that doesn't mean he couldn't go out like a champ or be able to get a happier ending. If there is another ME game it is probably set in the distant future and Shepard would have died from natural causes. So them needing to get rid of Shepard isn't an excuse.

Thank you for atleast sympathizing with us.

[Deep Hours]

JigPig wrote...

Obviously you guys haven't gotten the perfect ending yet.

If the game had ended there with Anderson and Shep commenting on the outcome of it firing as well as everything leading up to it. Universe saved, relay network intact...I might of been okay with it. But as it stands...meh.

[havoc373]

DarkSpider88 wrote...

DerNix wrote...

d-boy15 wrote...

I hope they put this back in the game. It's damm good, make me feel like Shepard is normal human
and why this get cut instead of that goddamm vent kid?

www.youtube.com/watch

This was the leaked version? Wow that is a good ending. Not that it is a good one but there is a dialogue with a touch of humor.

Wow that is so much more deep and emotional. They should have used this!

This!! why was this cut?! its so much better than whats in the game now

[Polat995]

Sundown Native wrote...

I'd like to start this off by saying I'm in the minority about this, as I have no real problems about Mass Effect 3. Not even the ending.

I mean, I saw this coming the minute BioWare started saying that Mass Effect 3 would be the final chapter in Commander Shepard's story. I KNEW they were going to find some way to make sure he/she would never appear in anyone of the future ME games ever again. I didn't have high expectations regarding his/her survival, so his/her death garnered only a strung out "Damn" from me.

With that being said, I have the ability to see the other side. And I completely understand why everyone is so pissed off about how it ended. Judging from the amount of people who think this, it's only a matter of time before Mass Effect loses the weight it used to carry. That renders any other installments pointless.


What I'm trying to say is, the ending was good for the few, but not for the many. I'm pretty sure the needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few, and truth be told, I want Mass Effect to get larger than this.


So fix the endings. Because if this carries on the way it is? The entire Mass Effect franchise won't mean anything anymore. And neither will BioWare.

Didn't you see destroy choice? Shepard starts breathing in 3-4 second long scene...

[Gibb_Shepard]

I haven't actually completed the game, i just watched the ending on youtube. I really couldn't handle the suspense of knowing what caused such an uproar.

Can someone explain to me why the Mass Relays blow up? That's the real kicker for me, the fact that all space-faring civilization is now completely destroyed, and i really don't know why it turned out that way. Were the Mass Relays somehow destiny-linked to the Reapers or something?

Then by the end of it all we have pre-space flight civilisations, the beginning of a new "Cycle", but without the Reapers this time. So, in the end, Shepard didn't succeed in saving his own space-faring civlisation, but he spared future civilizations from the Reaper threat? Amirite?

[andy310]

He's not happy about the ending either.

Modifié par andy310, 11 mars 2012 - 03:01 .

[MordiMoro]

Sundown Native wrote...

I'd like to start this off by saying I'm in the minority about this, as I have no real problems about Mass Effect 3. Not even the ending.

I mean, I saw this coming the minute BioWare started saying that Mass Effect 3 would be the final chapter in Commander Shepard's story. I KNEW they were going to find some way to make sure he/she would never appear in anyone of the future ME games ever again. I didn't have high expectations regarding his/her survival, so his/her death garnered only a strung out "Damn" from me.

With that being said, I have the ability to see the other side. And I completely understand why everyone is so pissed off about how it ended. Judging from the amount of people who think this, it's only a matter of time before Mass Effect loses the weight it used to carry. That renders any other installments pointless.


What I'm trying to say is, the ending was good for the few, but not for the many. I'm pretty sure the needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few, and truth be told, I want Mass Effect to get larger than this.


So fix the endings. Because if this carries on the way it is? The entire Mass Effect franchise won't mean anything anymore. And neither will BioWare.

You are a man, you have my respect and my admiration.

[Lexagg]

Haha, this is from facebook:

Bioware: what is your name?
Me: I am Commander Shepard, Savior of the Galaxy
Bioware: What is your quest?
Me: To Destroy the Reapers, and nothing can stop me now!
Bioware: What is your favourite colour? 

[DiTHmaphacks]

On a offtopic sidenote i loved the music

[DirtyBird627]

Sundown Native wrote...

What I'm trying to say is, the ending was good for the few, but not for the many. I'm pretty sure the needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few, and truth be told, I want Mass Effect to get larger than this.


So fix the endings. Because if this carries on the way it is? The entire Mass Effect franchise won't mean anything anymore. And neither will BioWare.

Most definitely this. If this is how Bioware wants it to be, then I know a lot of people will probably be done with them, myself included.

[KerrJMF]

Adding another voice to the masses. My roommate just finished the game today on Xbox (I played on PC). She was certain she had "finished it wrong." I explained that no, these are, in fact, the endings. And you'll never see your squad/LI again. Or be able to travel the galaxy and see the worlds we've grown to love. She is returning her copy to Gamestop this afternoon.

Bioware, please don't tell us that you know best. I say that with all due respect. The game was superb up until the ending. All replay value has been destroyed. I finished the game two days ago and have had zero desire to import another one of my many Shepards I've made over the years.

I'll add my name and my roommate's to the growing list of those pleading for a better, somewhat brighter ending DLC. This was a horrible thing to do your fandom

PS: Apologies if this has already been posted but it sums up my feelings on the ending perfectly (substitute the word Garrus for Tali):

Modifié par KerrJMF, 11 mars 2012 - 03:06 .

[Ameno Xiel]

Just hit the 15k mark on the poll. Just wanted to let you know...
Seems like more and more players finish their games and find their way here.

[TarielMaeda]

 *cracks knuckles* Time for another one of those tl;dr posts.

Like a lot of people, I don't hate the game now. Hell, the game is great. The ending however is bad because it spits in everything that everything else in this and the other two games set up.

1. Seriously effed up situations and yet beating the odds:
In ME1, Soverign was coming and there was little if anything anyone could do to stop him. Shepard found a way. Sure, it may have cost some lives, but hell, this is war, that's what happens in wars.
ME2, same deal, if you played through all the loyalty missions and picked the right people for the job, you beat the odds in a suicide mission. Other people may have died along the way, but the Reapers had a slap in the proverbial face AGAIN.
ME3, you're literally uniting the WHOLE galaxy under one banner, a feat thought impossible until Shepard did it. You're telling me the only way out now are the three ways the Catalyst gives you? Plenty of cutscenes show Reapers buckling over and dying under sheer firepower. Sheer firepower is what you have if you sucessfully united the galaxy. Sure, this method might incrue some losses population wise but all Shepard had to do was say: "The Crucible is a Reaper trap!" and then no one would care/have any other choice than to blast the Reapers to hell.

2. The Crucible/Catalyst's purpose for the Reapers makes no sense.
So.....to save organics from killing themselves by inventing synthetics.......you create SUPER synthetics to kill off most of the organics then fuze some of them WITH synthetics to "save" them? That's the stupidest plan I ever heard. Oh and by the way, I'm SHEPARD; I just stopped a 300+ year war between Synthetics and Organics and it ended in PEACE between the two factions and both of them realizing how much BETTER their lives are with both of them working in unison!

3: This ending spits in the face of all our hard work and the underlying theme of the Mass Effect trilogy.
Giving us three games with such fundamental and important choices that carry over game to game only to have them be 99.9% unimportant at the end is horrid. All you have to do in ME3 is just make sure your "Galactic Readiness" and "War Assets" help you reach a certain number. Everything else is moot! Sure, "right" decisions in the game(s) make the numbers go higher, but is that all I've been doing these last 3 games? Building up to this so that I'm insured that I have 3 possible ways for the end of this series to suck?
Additionally, the ME games have an underlying theme that has been many different things to many different people. For me that theme is hope. Hope that despite all odds, the Reapers will go down. Hope that despite everything, there CAN be a better tomorrow. The Quarians had hope in re-taking Rannoch and their faith was rewarded. Shepard's squadmates had faith in him and it has definately been rewarded. Hell, a conversation in-game with Hackett basically spills it out for you that without hope, no soldier/squad could DO what Shepard and his teams have done. Granted, sometimes in this series hope doesn't play out like we want: Saren/Benezia comitting suicide, hope that Thane/Mordin would live like Grunt did,etc; but overall, faith in overwhelming odds and overcoming them is what this game series stood for and for the ending to take it all away and give us a rather "shoot the shaggy dog" ending is basically why everyone is up in arms over this.

Do I expect Bioware to rewrite or give us more endings? No. Do I expect more DLC on the horizon? Yes. Do I know what it is? No. However, considering what I know about Bioware, there has to be more they're not telling us right now, because if this is how everything ends, it is VERY dissapointing for me. All this build-up to this giant battle between the Allied Forces of the Galaxy and the Reapers and we get some computer that decided to look like [ParagonNova] LITTLE BOY!!![/ParagonNova] is a huge cop-out.
Again,do I expect Bioware to pander to us about the endings? No. However, I do think they have more up their sleeve.

tl;dr: The endings are a horrid way to end this franchise but I think Bioware is cooking something up.

[Jesta79-X]

Even Shepard himself has a reaction to the Endings

[Evercrow]

The Catalyst's logic is flawed. It could be a little stronger, if he himself is synthetic who turned rebel and managed to control or destroy the rest of his race,thus saving what's left of organic races at his current time.Or at least planets, where organic lifeforms could form and evolve to the sentient state.Still, when each Reaper die,he loses one of civilizations from previous cycles, meaning the same fate for them he is trying to avoid .Also, turning organics into synthetic hybrids with no free will, just instruments for his so called "order" is not very good way to preserve life.He may argue, that he leaves younger races alive, but some kind of filter for advanced AI in Mass relays or galaxy-wide warning system with some ocassional checking from Reaper enforcers works much better.As someone said :"Why not reap the synthetics instead?".

As of know, the ending choices are dropped too sudden, without any explanation or foreshadowing.And Shepard agrees to one of them because there is little time? He could at least try to persuade him,it's future of the whole galaxy being decided there.

Also the destroy and control choices seem like  defeat,because kid never warns Shepard, that in ALL 3 presented choices mass relays will blow up(he only warns him for Synergy choice of this,deceiving him in other cases). Forgoing the assumption about devastating mass relay explosions,that means stone age for most of hospitable planets(don't forget the war's effect on infrastructure),and slow exctinction for the rest.Most of Shepard's trusted allies in fleets stranded on Earth will die slowly(except for geth), only  asari have big chances to survive(oxygen,carbon-based,can reproduce),krogan and salarians don't have females in their ranks.Quarians and turians are on the fence .Quarians  can survive, but they still need outside resources to support fleet,resources i'm not sure devastated Earth can provide. And turians must have some females in their ranks,if Garrus wasn't bsing me in ME2, and can live off food from quarians(if they are present at all),but I'm not sure if that's sufficient to sustain healthy population.FTL drives?Sure, but there aren't any conveniently placed fuel depots on every stop all the way to the closest suitable planet.So chances are not so good even with extensive preparations.

Ultimately, the only choice in present ending Shepard even could agree to is Synergy one-much bigger survival rate, though obviously all organics are now stripped of choice,so still feels like a defeat.Which leaves us with only one ending no matter what we do,and our previous choices were.

Even current endings could be salvageable with some tweaks:
For all endings,some proper epilogue (at least the text one) about the war's outcome, how different species fared, what happened with major characters of the game.
1)Control ending. Shepard dies, but relays remain. Ultimate sacrifice,very paragon ending. Shepard's control will fade at some point.Survivors manage to get information from Citadel on Reapers ,Catalyst and Shepard's final moments,and decide what to do about it.War assets may factor in on that decision.
Could also be interesting ending, if Shepard's conscience remains living in the Citadel.
Normandy not blown up or stranded on some far-off planet,of course.

2)Destroy ending.Shepard lives,only Earth relay got blown up for that starting impulse(and smaller then in the Arrival).Maybe make war assets and reputation amount as defining factor for If the geth and EDI  die along with Reapers or not. Could be the only ending where you enjoy a scene with your LI, making it most prefered one for many people(remembering DA:O, how much of you people really killed off your Warden as a canon playthrough?) This would make for a solid Renegade ending.

3) Synergy ending. Not much to change here, it's the only one, where  "Normandy stranded" cinematic really works. EDI and Joker stranded in their own Edem was a good scene. But you need to explain why the hell Joker was making a relay jump in the middle of a fight and remove or fix third character coming out of the ship.Certainly should not be the one you picked for ground assault team.

Modifié par Evercrow, 11 mars 2012 - 03:09 .

[bpzrn]

Have you looked at the poll, based on these forums I figgured it be lop sided but the amount of people voting and 90% + not ok with the endings.

Its that obvious to the players of this game, unfortunate the developer of the game did not see how bad this was to end a great game this way.


http://social.biowar...06/polls/28989/

Endings suck, we want a brighter one. = 88% 

Modifié par bpzrn, 11 mars 2012 - 03:08 .

[trondjac]

Jesta79-X wrote...

Even Shepard himself has a reaction to the Endings

Haha fantastic!

[AlCord]

Jesta79-X wrote...

Even Shepard himself has a reaction to the Endings

Lol