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So we can't get the ending we want after all?


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#18251
AlCord

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bpzrn wrote...

Have you looked at the poll, based on these forums I figgured it be lop sided but the amount of people voting and 90% + not ok with the endings.

Its that obvious to the players of this game, unfortunate the developer of the game did not see how bad this was to end a great game this way.


http://social.biowar...06/polls/28989/

Endings suck, we want a brighter one. = 88% 


That must be a slap into BW / EAs face... 97% voted for a better or altered ending

#18252
ziyon conqueror

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Don't despair my fellow players. If ME3 is the end, then Bioware can figure that there can be alternate endings to our liking. And they'd better, otherwise the pressure is going to bubble to the breaking point. And I can't stand no happily ever after

#18253
Mendelevosa

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Anything is better than this ending:

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Apologies if already posted.

But this

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Polat995 wrote...

Didn't you see destroy choice? Shepard starts breathing in 3-4 second long scene...



I saw it. Went through my second playthrough with that happening.

While I might be content with that, though, it seems no one else is.


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The thing is he didn't have to die. In SWTOR 1 and 2 the protagonist just goes off to the outer planets. You never know exactly what happens to them but it allowed the players to fill in their own story. We all knew this was Shepard's last game but that doesn't mean he couldn't go out like a champ or be able to get a happier ending. If there is another ME game it is probably set in the distant future and Shepard would have died from natural causes. So them needing to get rid of Shepard isn't an excuse.

Thank you for atleast sympathizing with us.



I understand that. I'm not even going to argue with you about how they handled it, because it's a damn good point. From what I remember, one of those people in the Old Republic story was Revan, and I heard from my brother (Not really taking his word till I see it for myself though) that he makes an appearance in the latest game.

I can understand Shepard getting killed. I also understand him/her surviving for longer than just 5 seconds before the credits roll. I read somewhere that having the ability to tell the Catalyst that he was spewing bullsh*t , and that Synthetic and Organic life could prosper together would have been a good ending too. And I agree with that.

But instead the Reapers either die, along with any technology holding Reaper code (Geth, and EDI), they are controlled, despite the fact that the entire series was saying control - or order to the chaos - was wrong, or they merge together. Only the destruction of the Reapers will allow Shepard to survive, at the cost of reinforcing the belief the synthetics will never co-exist with organics.


Now that I read this, I can see why everyone thinks there was no point in giving Shepard a decision. Damn.

#18256
I RJay I

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I don't see why they just couldn't have had ending choices like this:

- Everybody survives
- some people survive
- the whole squad die but you save the universe
- you don't manage to save the universe, the reapers kill off everything but you keep the crucible and catalyst info safe for the next civilisation to pick up (just like everyone before you did)

Just simple ending differences like that would have been easy to do and I would be totally satisfied with that.

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#18258
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European, I'm about 11 hours in and procrastinating beyond belief. I've invested at least 300 hours in ME1 + 2 and thats why there is a problem. I perceeve ME3 as a gripping cinematic story with enormous good shooting parts in it. The makers stated there might be people a wee bit upset about the endings. Well that "wee bit" seems a giant storm. Why is that and how could the makers not see this coming? I've been pondering this question for a few days now but for me I am upset because I am a typical RPG player and invest amounts of time in it. I invested amounts of time in ME1 + 2, done multiple playthroughs, love intrests, done every quest and sidequest ect... Therefore my emotionnal investments are huge. If I look at the 3 games ME1 = RPG ME2 = RPG/Shooter and ME3 = cinematic story driven shooter. I don't play often shooters but when I do I enjoy the ride and good story telling but don't invest much emotion into it. The makers of ME3 made a gripping game and yes the ending sucks and is made sloppy but foremost for me they plump forgot this was the last part of a trilogy that started as an RPG and transformed more and more into a shooter. They forgot they have a huge fanbase that poored a lot of hours and emotion into this trilogy and planned to play all there saved playthroughs through ME3. In my humble opinion it is these people who are having a difficult time with the endings with I am one off.
This trilogy caters more than one distinct player group and therefore various emotional investments depending on the individual. I don't think ME3 is a bad game not even because of the endings, I have no problem Bioware is catering more and more to a audience I am no part of. I am however sad and a bit angry that in a transitional trilogy catoring different gamestiles they have been very uncensitive to a large fanbase group and left them so brutaly in the cold, that in my opinion they could foresee but they deliberetly chose to ignore it.

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MrPuschel wrote...


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Well thanks a lot sir. I was eating breakfast while viewing the forums, and you just allowed me to review what I ate then and what I ate last night.:sick:

Modifié par Mendelevosa, 11 mars 2012 - 03:24 .


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d-boy15 wrote...

I hope they put this back in the game. It's damm good, make me feel like Shepard is normal human
and why this get cut instead of that goddamm vent kid?



Wait... wait... what? WHAT?! How is this not in the game?!

#18261
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What annoys me a lot is that whatever of the three options you choose, all life in the galaxy is basically destroyed anyway, as all the relays blow up, and that causes massive destruction in each of the big populated star systems.

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I finished the game yesterday. Now I understand why people flooded this forums with the ending. I thought: "C'mon, you people might not like it, but what if I do" and you guys were right. I'll try to keep this "constructive".

I loved the combat, the RPG elements, the laughs, the anger, the HELL YEAH! moments. Bioware, you made me love you more, but, there's something that completely made my heart break into tiny pieces and those tiny pieces turned into dust. The ending was not what I expected, I expected that ending to be for someone that didn't try hard enough, that was selfish, that dismissed hope and peace, that gave up on everything and everyone.

My shepard, no, OUR Shepards, the ones that tried hard, that gave the Krogan a second chance, that gave peace to the Quarians and Geth, that didn't care that you were made out of synthetics, the ones that stopped Saren, the ones that saved the council, the ones that had to sacrifice humans in order to save a bunch of ignorants, the ones that had to ally with the corrupt and the sick-minded CORP, that thought that humans were above everyone else, the ones that had to go through the Omega-4-Relay, thinking that they wouldn't come back to stop the Reapers and Collectors. They didn't deserve that kind of ending, the universe didn't deserve this. No one! absolutely no one has a say in the future of the galaxy, not even ghost child, that never experienced anything.

We want a worthy ending, for a worthy hero. We want a closure, we want a happy ending farewell for Shepard, for us.

Thank you.

PS: Thanks to Quietness for this: http://vulpesetuva.t...nough-one-thing (stolen from Yukidama on the femshep thread) seriously only go here if you want to cry

Modifié par QwibQwib, 11 mars 2012 - 03:42 .


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Tyranniac wrote...

d-boy15 wrote...

I hope they put this back in the game. It's damm good, make me feel like Shepard is normal human
and why this get cut instead of that goddamm vent kid?



Wait... wait... what? WHAT?! How is this not in the game?!



So God damn good. And after that just the catalyst activating, destroying the reapers while preserving technology and synthethics, followed by Shepard saved and re-united with his/her loved ones, after which the future of the galaxy, Shepard, love-interest, squadmates and other characters.

Now that would've been an ending.

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Double post. Disregard.

Modifié par Sundown Native, 11 mars 2012 - 03:35 .


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io9.com/5890421/10-things-you-probably-didnt-know-about-mass-effect

Look at the number 9.
As far as i can remember before ME3 released they said they'll be doing other games in ME universe, if so, than wth is this. >_<

Modifié par cotheer, 11 mars 2012 - 03:31 .


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Tyranniac wrote...

d-boy15 wrote...

I hope they put this back in the game. It's damm good, make me feel like Shepard is normal human
and why this get cut instead of that goddamm vent kid?



Wait... wait... what? WHAT?! How is this not in the game?!



Your kidding me. They did get the Author of deception to cut out the real ending! This is just brutal to know there was a better ending that got thrown out.

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infinitekilan wrote...

Should the indoctrination/hallucination thing be true, then the question to ask would be: Why, Bioware? Why enrage the entire community? Why risk so much for what basically amounts to a massive troll?

The 2 reasons I can think of, as unacceptable as they are, are as follows:
1) Most likely scenario, they ran out of time to finish the proper endings(because EA was forcing them to have the game done by the release date, or some other less likely reason)
2) Bioware, for some reason, wanted the grand finale to go unknown until majority of the Mass Effect playerbase had finished the game. Basically, to avoid spoilers.

Now as to why they have yet to explain this, I do not know. Therein lies the main hole in this theory.


This. Please, please, please and 1000 times please. Of course, free DLC. Paying (more) for the real ending would be just insulting.

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you guys also notice TIM chooses the "paragon/blue" ending and Anderson chooses the "renegade/red" ending XD

ugh :/ we need a new ending Q.Q

#18269
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I did get the ending I wanted.

#18270
Pheonix57

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I feel a little better now, thanks to the vids of Hitler's reaction and Shepard's own reaction to the end.

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Watched the poll jump by 2000 votes today! This fills me with hope.

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People who like the endings seem to always say "Serious Sacrifice" etc etc and yeah there should be but there should be a better option to work towards than what has been given and with the way things are what really gets me is that they would have been better leaving something to help the next cycle and just all dying to the reapers, since, without any further info forthcoming, they are most likely screwed and will essentially stagnate in the systems they are in.

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cotheer wrote...

io9.com/5890421/10-things-you-probably-didnt-know-about-mass-effect

Wait, so Casey Hudson actually said THIS?!

People usually think that you start with a simple idea, and the
challenge is building out. Actually, what usually happens is, the first
thing you put to paper starts out too complicated. There are too many
themes, and it's not very cohesive. Like solving a math equation, you
have to collapse things down and find things that cancel each other out,
and make it smaller and smaller until you have the E=mc2 of
storytelling. Something elegant.



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DiTHmaphacks wrote...

On a offtopic sidenote i loved the music :P


Man I did too.  In retrospect, music was one of the few things I had some reservations about, but they really came through. The ending song had a really somber quality to it.. unfortunately instead of amplifying my own emotions at the finish of an epic trilogy, it accompanied my shock, outrage, and grief at contemplating what I just saw happen. I would've felt better if they just stuck the Trololol song to it.

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tomthumb500 wrote...

Watched the poll jump by 2000 votes today! This fills me with hope.

Let's hope we can reach 50.000 B)