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[Lady_Aescwyn]

Ugh, I was already disgusted enough with the endings, but I'm starting to hope again, what with an overwhelming number of fans coming together to demand that this bull**** be fixed. I was disheartened, but starting to hope... Now I'm just angry.

My youngest brother found out about the endings. He cried. He's 10 years old. He ONLY likes it because his cool, 23-year-old big sister likes it. He loves the characters because I love them. He loves it because I tell him all about how badass-awesome Shep and the crew are... and then these crappy endings come along and ruin that all for him.

Bioware/EA, how could you?

The hope that we'll get it fixed is still there, but now I'm pissed...
*activates big sister rage* D8<

Modifié par Lady_Aescwyn, 11 mars 2012 - 03:41 .

[DarkSpider88]

Is it just me or are more people coming out supporting the ending? There are two many on the boards right now.

[MrPuschel]

Even if a mark of 50.000 is reached, i don't think there will be a "change". I just hope they will recognize it while doing theyr next game. Also i hope they understand that most people don't want a disney or a happy ending. They want an reasonable ending that is not related to space magic.

[Nefelius]

hawat333 wrote...

I did get the ending I wanted.

If you think that majority wants a unicorn ending (that signature of yours states it clearly), then you are way too ignorant to see any point beyond yours. Most of us want an ending that gives closure, fits the previous 2 games and MAKES SENSE dammit.

Modifié par Nefelius, 11 mars 2012 - 03:45 .

[Mhgasa]

Arykel515 wrote...

People who like the endings seem to always say "Serious Sacrifice" etc etc and yeah there should be but there should be a better option to work towards than what has been given and with the way things are what really gets me is that they would have been better leaving something to help the next cycle and just all dying to the reapers, since, without any further info forthcoming, they are most likely screwed and will essentially stagnate in the systems they are in.

I think most people who like the endings, do agree on the fact that the epilogue and consequences of the ending are extremely vague and really needed to be elaborated on ALOT. Personally i dont find the endings themselves horrendous, just implemented poorly. Alot of people are calling for new endings, but i honestly think a epilogue would satisfy the vast majority. As it is now, we have absolutely no idea if any of the endings indeed are happy, its just so vague, we hear absolutely nothing about the consequences of our final choice.

I hate being left with so many loose ends in a game series i love and have spend 100+ hours on. We didnt get closure we got a cliffhanger moment

Modifié par Mhgasa, 11 mars 2012 - 03:48 .

[PhoenixSpartan5]

Hey Bethesda fixed the ending for fallout 3 why can't BioWare.
I kinda like to believe that the blue, green, and red option is like the matrix, one will have Shep waking up to a better ending the other just more sh** piled on more sh**. and the middle option will have shep waking to a world where Reapers are using organics as power sources oh wait they do something like that already

[Lexagg]

DarkSpider88 wrote...

Is it just me or are more people coming out supporting the ending? There are two many on the boards right now.

Well, more people are beating the game, so ofcourse there's more people who support the ending. There is also more people who dislike the ending, and the proportion is still about the same, judging by the polls and megathreads.

[DarkSpider88]

Nefelius wrote...

hawat333 wrote...

I did get the ending I wanted.

If you think that majority wants a unicorn ending (that signature of yours states it clearly), then you are way too ignorant to see any point beyond yours. Most of us want an ending that gives closure, fits the previous 2 games and MAKES SENSE dammit.

This could potentially be the last game in the series. I agree they need an ending that doesn't keave so many plotholes but they should also an achievable option for those who want a hapier ending than what we got. Even if it Shepard's team surrounding him while he lies dead in the rubble is better than the team stuck on jungle world.

Modifié par DarkSpider88, 11 mars 2012 - 03:49 .

[Kloborgg711]

Mhgasa wrote...

Arykel515 wrote...

People who like the endings seem to always say "Serious Sacrifice" etc etc and yeah there should be but there should be a better option to work towards than what has been given and with the way things are what really gets me is that they would have been better leaving something to help the next cycle and just all dying to the reapers, since, without any further info forthcoming, they are most likely screwed and will essentially stagnate in the systems they are in.

I think most people who like the endings, do agree on the fact that the epilogue and consequences of the ending are extremely vague and really needed to be elaborated on ALOT. Personally i dont find the endings themselves horrendous, just implemented poorly. Alot of people are calling for new endings, but i honestly think a epilogue would satisfy the vast majority. As it is now, we have absolutely no idea if any of the endings indeed are happy, its just so vague, we hear absolutely nothing about the consequences of our final choice.

I hate being left with so many loose ends in a game series i love and have spend 100+ hours on

An epilogue wouldn't satisfy me, I have to say. Seriously, I think an epilogue would just NECESSARY. Like regardless of which direction they wanted to take the series, I thought it pretty well established that you at least show us what happens.
I'm asking for an ending I feel I deserve ("entitled" if you want to call it that). A series whose appeal and replay value are a direct result of the choices made should not be left to ruin with one depressing interpretation of events. Again, they couldn't do a "Disney" ending even if they tried, unless there was an option to revive every single casualty. We want an optimistic ending, and ending we can smile about. It's sad enough the series is over, we don't need to add to that by ending on such a bitter note.

[KaiserinKai]

Lady_Aescwyn wrote...

Damn. I was feeling pretty crappy for the past week, but seeing this thread, seeing everyone come together, gives me so much hope... and that's really what Mass Effect is all about.

Did someone say there was an official thread where the BSN "fleets" were gathering? o.O

Here ya go~

social.bioware.com/forum/1/topic/355/index/9762840

[Kloborgg711]

DarkSpider88 wrote...

Is it just me or are more people coming out supporting the ending? There are two many on the boards right now.

I haven't noticed that. I actually, since yesterday, noticed a lot less supportive threads popping out. The few that I do see are often joke titles (e.g. "The ending isn't that bad.... is what I was saying before I finished"). The poll results are roughly the same proportionally, with a slight gain on the number asking for a completely new ending.

[MrPuschel]

edit:nvm

Modifié par MrPuschel, 11 mars 2012 - 03:53 .

[MacNille]

I just finshed the game. The ending.... it feels like Neon Genesis all over again. What did i just saw?

[Sterenn]

Nefelius wrote...

If you think that majority wants a unicorn ending (that signature of yours states it clearly), then you are way too ignorant to see any point beyond yours. Most of us want an ending that gives closure, fits the previous 2 games and MAKES SENSE dammit.

What's wrong with the people who want an happy ending ? I mean after ME1 and ME2, Shepard can survive to the war just as much he/she can die or sacrifies him/herself. The ending I choose (green one) was coherent as a consequence of another solution, but I don't see my Jane as someone who would sacrifies herself (or her friends) if she had another solution. And she worked hard to have a happy ending. This protestation is about the lack of choices and player's actions consequences.

[DarkSpider88]

Kloborgg711 wrote...

Mhgasa wrote...

Arykel515 wrote...

People who like the endings seem to always say "Serious Sacrifice" etc etc and yeah there should be but there should be a better option to work towards than what has been given and with the way things are what really gets me is that they would have been better leaving something to help the next cycle and just all dying to the reapers, since, without any further info forthcoming, they are most likely screwed and will essentially stagnate in the systems they are in.

I think most people who like the endings, do agree on the fact that the epilogue and consequences of the ending are extremely vague and really needed to be elaborated on ALOT. Personally i dont find the endings themselves horrendous, just implemented poorly. Alot of people are calling for new endings, but i honestly think a epilogue would satisfy the vast majority. As it is now, we have absolutely no idea if any of the endings indeed are happy, its just so vague, we hear absolutely nothing about the consequences of our final choice.

I hate being left with so many loose ends in a game series i love and have spend 100+ hours on

An epilogue wouldn't satisfy me, I have to say. Seriously, I think an epilogue would just NECESSARY. Like regardless of which direction they wanted to take the series, I thought it pretty well established that you at least show us what happens.
I'm asking for an ending I feel I deserve ("entitled" if you want to call it that). A series whose appeal and replay value are a direct result of the choices made should not be left to ruin with one depressing interpretation of events. Again, they couldn't do a "Disney" ending even if they tried, unless there was an option to revive every single casualty. We want an optimistic ending, and ending we can smile about. It's sad enough the series is over, we don't need to add to that by ending on such a bitter note.

Exactly I wanted an ending where after the credits rolled I could undoubtedly say Sheoard won. He had to sacrifice a whoile lot but he survived to see another day. I want to see him make it back from the Citadel to be reunited with his crew It is not a Disney ending because they are surrounding by a galaxy in destruction. Destroy technology, destroy the Mass Relays, but have an ending where Shepard actually has some sort of reward for his efforts.

[Jackalope]

Alathin wrote...

Its the last 20 seconds that made it bad for me. Seeing the Normandy crash in every ending possibility and the questions like "Why was the normandy fleeing the battle" and "Why is my squad who was on earth with me in the Normandy". Without that I would have given it a 3/5 but now the ending will have to be a 2/5 for me.

And considerig Joker, EDI, and Garrus stepped out during my ending, my first question was 'Well, who's going to be able to eat the food on this planet?"

[TheRisenStar]

killnoob wrote...

TheRisenStar wrote...

Lemme get this straight...

Game hammers the theme of "Control is wrong. Freedom is good. Fight for freedom, self determination, and your friends!"
Tuchanka - Genophage is control. Control is wrong.
TIM - Control of people (and Reapers) is wrong and dangerous,
Geth - Need I say it... again?
Miranda's Father - Control is wrong.


And the penultimate example - Reapers are a system of control. An artificial means to produce someone's idea of "Order" as a supreme value. And no matter what, we're forced to accept their logic, submit to their presuppositions, and make a choice in congruence with their perspective.

Damn right I chose destroy. Sorry Geth and EDI, it's the only (terrible) option I had to be consistent with the theme of the game, and of ME in general. What a miscarriage of storytelling...

I'll also add, that the "hero's sacrifice" does not have to mean death. See Frodo, LOTR - another apocalyptic, against all odds, fight for your friends, life, and all that is good story.

I want my Frodo ending. {edit} or any real ending that respects the actual themes of the saga.

Never posted here before, have lurked for years. Adding my voice now.

 i would argue that the main theme of Mass Effect is not actually about control.
It's about unity.
The entire focus about ME 1, 2 and 3 are gathering people to prepare for the final battle.
But this is completely subjective and you dont have to agree with me. Also I agree wholeheartedly with you the storytelling for the last 10 min of the game is simply atrocious.

I can see that, too.  Truth told, there are many themes.  Just seemed to me that "control is wrong" kept coming up over and over - and then the ending just goes off the rails.  It's like it was written by someone else who hadn't written the rest.  Like reading Brian Herbert after Frank.

Hope, Unity, Freedom, Friendship, Loyalty....

Ending gives us Nihilism, Control, Lonliness, Separation...

So jarring.

{edit} didnt proofread.

Modifié par TheRisenStar, 11 mars 2012 - 04:04 .

[TSC_1]

I finished ME3 late last night. I loved it. Absolutely adored it.

Until, as I’m sure you understand, the last five minutes of the game. Really, I was fine with everything right up to, and including, Anderson’s death. After that, though…

Look. I’m not in a particularly happy life situation at the moment. I haven’t been for the past couple of years. I came to ME1 and ME2 over the summer, and they were my escape. As strange as it sounds, Mass Effect helped me cope. The series let me escape into a wonderful world of heroism, love, and loss. Maybe I got a bit too close to it, but the series really made my life that much more bearable.

So I was really looking forward to ME3. Every now and then, something would come up that would give me pause, but I’d always have faith in Bioware. Delayed release? It’ll be fine. Kinect support? It’ll be fine. Multiplayer? It’ll be fine. Day one DLC? It’ll be fine.

As the release approached, I basically cut off my internet – I was determined not to be spoiled. And then the game unlocked, and it was wonderful. All those concerns I had were non-issues. Bioware even managed to handle the death of one of the best-loved characters of the series superlatively well. Mordin went out like a mensch.

But, then. Then, the end. I hadn’t heard *anything* about the endings being disappointing – I had cut myself off from spoilers, remember? I felt angry. Sad. Confused. But, above all, *betrayed*. See, Bioware made some pretty clear narrative promises to us. And they didn’t fulfil them. At all. Worse, the fact that they actually had to introduce not one, but *two*, plotholes to strand the Normandy on some backwater space jungle just strikes me as spiteful. I know that’s not the case – no malice on their part, just a screw up – but that’s how it feels.

And here I am. Emotionally invested in the series more than most. A series that has made my generally ****ty life just a little bit better. And I feel that the whole series has been lessened by the ending. The joy I took in it? Gone. Yes, some may say I’m overreacting, but this is my honest impression of what happened. So, call me selfish. I want my Disney ending. It doesn’t have to be the *only* ending. It doesn’t even have to be *easy*. I just want it to be an option. At this point, and as pathetic as it sounds, I’d probably pay a full $60 for a five minute long DLC that fixes the ending.

I’m just really depressed at this point.

[sodoffusillygit]

MacNille wrote...

I just finshed the game. The ending.... it feels like Neon Genesis all over again. What did i just saw?

Still a better ending then Mass Effect 3 

[TheRisenStar]

Anderson's death was... beautiful. And bittersweet.

"God... Feels like years since I just... sat down...."

That was a wow moment for me. And then.....

Modifié par TheRisenStar, 11 mars 2012 - 04:02 .

[Nefelius]

DarkSpider88 wrote...

Nefelius wrote...

hawat333 wrote...

I did get the ending I wanted.

If you think that majority wants a unicorn ending (that signature of yours states it clearly), then you are way too ignorant to see any point beyond yours. Most of us want an ending that gives closure, fits the previous 2 games and MAKES SENSE dammit.

This could potentially be the last game in the series. I agree they need an ending that doesn't keave so many plotholes but they should also an achievable option for those who want a hapier ending than what we got. Even if it Shepard's team surrounding him while he lies dead in the rubble is better than the team stuck on jungle world.

I totally got you but this is not the vritual unicorn endings that i rage so much about. I was absolutely OK with Shep dying as long as it is a scrifice for the brighter future not a series blue colored explosions that...DESTROY EVERYTHING THERE IS ALIVE IN THE GALAXY.

[SLonergan]

I can't believe that Bioware still hasn't responded to this thread. Just as surprised that they haven't shut it down like all the other threads.

Stop hiding from your fan-base Bioware. Talk to us.

[_brain]

Here's some statistics on the forums, polls, and RetakeME3 stuff:
http://retakeme3.priv.nu/

[Kloborgg711]

sodoffusillygit wrote...

MacNille wrote...

I just finshed the game. The ending.... it feels like Neon Genesis all over again. What did i just saw?

Still a better ending then Mass Effect 3 

I lol'd @
"Tell me about Specialist Traynor and the shower again, Grandpa"

Modifié par Kloborgg711, 11 mars 2012 - 04:06 .

[TheRisenStar]

SLonergan wrote...

I can't believe that Bioware still hasn't responded to this thread. Just as surprised that they haven't shut it down like all the other threads.

Stop hiding from your fan-base Bioware. Talk to us.

I've grown cynical about developers in the last few years.  I guess we're going to see if my cynicism is justified.