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#18301
Lupus Canivus

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Thanks for the tip DerNix!

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I don't think there has ever been a fan outcry quite like this one, at least not that I can remember. It's kind of amazing to watch, and it keeps me hopeful that something will be done. For once, its not just trolls making trouble, but people who really care that want to see something better.

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Sterenn wrote...

Nefelius wrote...

If you think that majority wants a unicorn ending (that signature of yours states it clearly), then you are way too ignorant to see any point beyond yours. Most of us want an ending that gives closure, fits the previous 2 games and MAKES SENSE dammit.

What's wrong with the people who want an happy ending ? I mean after ME1 and ME2, Shepard can survive to the war just as much he/she can die or sacrifies him/herself. The ending I choose (green one) was coherent as a consequence of another solution, but I don't see my Jane as someone who would sacrifies herself (or her friends) if she had another solution. And she worked hard to have a happy ending. This protestation is about the lack of choices and player's actions consequences.

it's not about wanting a brigh ending, it's about the defenders assume by some space magic that we're ALL here whining due to lack of unicorns.

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Nefelius wrote...

DarkSpider88 wrote...

Nefelius wrote...

hawat333 wrote...

I did get the ending I wanted.


If you think that majority wants a unicorn ending (that signature of yours states it clearly), then you are way too ignorant to see any point beyond yours. Most of us want an ending that gives closure, fits the previous 2 games and MAKES SENSE dammit.


This could potentially be the last game in the series. I agree they need an ending that doesn't keave so many plotholes but they should also an achievable option for those who want a hapier ending than what we got. Even if it Shepard's team surrounding him while he lies dead in the rubble is better than the team stuck on jungle world.


I totally got you but this is not the vritual unicorn endings that i rage so much about. I was absolutely OK with Shep dying as long as it is a scrifice for the brighter future not a series blue colored explosions that...DESTROY EVERYTHING THERE IS ALIVE IN THE GALAXY.


I understand, but I'd like a happy ending for my shepard, besidise her LI and friends, she deserves it. she already died once. 

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SLonergan wrote...

I can't believe that Bioware still hasn't responded to this thread. Just as surprised that they haven't shut it down like all the other threads.

Stop hiding from your fan-base Bioware. Talk to us.

It's still the weekend. I'd at least give them until Monday.

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Kitten Tactics wrote...

Agreed. Hell, Mass Effect 2 did it perfectly. If you wanted, you could have EVERYONE die, including Shepard. Or if you worked towards it, you could have everyone live. In this we only get one option. People are obsessed with bleak, tragic endings these days. There is something to be said about a good ending.

J.R.R Tolkien coined the term "eucatastrophe", which is the sudden, unpredictable, but still plausible turn, from bad to good. He lamented at how little it appears in modern stories. They joy it gives the audience can not be obtained any other way. When Shepard and Anderson were watching Earth, I was positive that we were experiencing a eucatastrophe. But the Hackett radioed in and the whole thing turned in to one big, 5 year long catastrophe.


I feel the same way, comparing ME2's ending with ME3. I did my best to ensure that I could get everyone to work together...and I get an ending that would've been the same/similar if I hadn't strived for the best ending?

I'm really at a loss as to why BioWare felt this is the best set of endings they could give us. If it was to build up to ME4, it seems like a bad way to go about it.


GreenSoda wrote...

SLonergan wrote...

I can't believe that Bioware still hasn't responded to this thread. Just as surprised that they haven't shut it down like all the other threads.

Stop hiding from your fan-base Bioware. Talk to us.

It's still the weekend. I'd at least give them until Monday.



Michael Gamble said that he's been reading our feedback but he's not ready to comment on them yet.

Modifié par Zephyria, 11 mars 2012 - 04:15 .


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Not only the endings of ME3 are extremely disappointing, but despite Bioware's promises it is impossible to achieve the "perfect" (for what it is worth) ending without multiplayer/iOS apllications, at least on the normal playthrough (not New Game+). Without Multi, You can gather as much as 7442 War Assets and with 50% readiness it isn't enough :(

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 This will be my first time posting here, but I just thought I should add in my voice. I honestly wasn't expecting much from the endings. I just held low standards for the full game. This led to pleasent suprises, all except when I saw the ending. I just felt so depressed and sad that it was ending, I didn't think of how horribly written it was. All masked behind beautiful music to make you think it wasn't the destruction of a series of games we all have grown close to. In the end, I got the ending with Shepard breathing. I didn't think much of it. I just assumed everyone got this scene, but now I realize some had to work for it. It was really stupid to put that in. Does it make me feel better to know Shepard lived through the ultimate sacrifice, only to die hungry and alone in a very anti-climactic death?

For me, I didn't really care what option I chose at the end. All the choices presented to me sucked, not just because they were Lose-Lose, but because they made no sense. I don't care that we get synthesized, or if the Reapers are destroyed, or if we control them, because my one connection to that universe, Shepard, is gone. That's why I don't care about the endings we have now. I get the same thing everyone else does. I don't find out if there are any repecussions. Why should I care? If Mass Effect 4 is released, I won't buy it. Shepard is gone, and that is what kept me grounded in the story. To have someone who was like me, because they WERE me. So I am not going to buy another Mass Effect game, although it doesn't really matter if I don't, at least I can tell myself that this was all just a dream and that Shepard stopped the Reapers.

As such, I saw no reson to change the goal of the game. Why not have us actually try to accomplish the goal set out in the first game: Stop the Reapers. Did we need the God like entities? Did we need all this over simplified crap? I think not. I think we could have just had Shepards story: To Stop the Reapers. Not to destroy Galactic civilization. 

/end rant

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DirtyBird627 wrote...

I don't think there has ever been a fan outcry quite like this one, at least not that I can remember. It's kind of amazing to watch, and it keeps me hopeful that something will be done. For once, its not just trolls making trouble, but people who really care that want to see something better.


^This x1000000000. I've always felt like most of the complaints here were from whiny trolls who were just kicking up dust because something wasn't exactly like they wanted it to be, but this is different. This is really something Bioware needs to address and not just another bunch of trolls.

If Bioware comes out and says, "Sorry, that's the ending you get." then I, and many others likely, will be mighty disappointed in what has easily been my favorite developers ever.

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Oh man, can someone hit the paragon button, pls and hug me? I'm crying for almost 12 hours now :-( Live sucks enough, why i need to cry for a video game? I'm such a big fan of Bioware and Mass Effect, but what did i wrong to deserve this ending?
Sry for my english, I'm german^^

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Watch Bioware come out with DLC endings that just add more colors to the endings. Yellow? Magenta? Who here would pay for a nice robin eggs blue??

Those endings were so horrible.There are like 10 million things i absolutely LOVED about that game. It was such an emotional journey and was so fun until the slow motion train wreck feeling at the end. Completely ruined the game for me. Tried to do a 2nd play through and I couldn't because everything felt so pointless. Sold all 3 of my games back.

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Disappointed in the endings for sure, it happened just too fast and yeah it was a deus ex machina. It may have worked out, but still your decisions in previous games and in this one don't really matter a thing.

P.S.
I'm also believing that they had a hurry in getting the game available; here's a funny thing what I found from 4chan about the ending scene with that grandpa and child:

images.4chan.org/v/src/1331478156099.jpg

.."the child" is just a resized adult model.

Modifié par Eculiberty, 11 mars 2012 - 04:17 .


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TomekN86 wrote...

Not only the endings of ME3 are extremely disappointing, but despite Bioware's promises it is impossible to achieve the "perfect" (for what it is worth) ending without multiplayer/iOS apllications, at least on the normal playthrough (not New Game+). Without Multi, You can gather as much as 7442 War Assets and with 50% readiness it isn't enough :(


This could actually be an indication that we stil have to get the real ending.

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QwibQwib wrote...

Nefelius wrote...

DarkSpider88 wrote...

Nefelius wrote...

hawat333 wrote...

I did get the ending I wanted.


If you think that majority wants a unicorn ending (that signature of yours states it clearly), then you are way too ignorant to see any point beyond yours. Most of us want an ending that gives closure, fits the previous 2 games and MAKES SENSE dammit.


This could potentially be the last game in the series. I agree they need an ending that doesn't keave so many plotholes but they should also an achievable option for those who want a hapier ending than what we got. Even if it Shepard's team surrounding him while he lies dead in the rubble is better than the team stuck on jungle world.


I totally got you but this is not the vritual unicorn endings that i rage so much about. I was absolutely OK with Shep dying as long as it is a scrifice for the brighter future not a series blue colored explosions that...DESTROY EVERYTHING THERE IS ALIVE IN THE GALAXY.


I understand, but I'd like a happy ending for my shepard, besidise her LI and friends, she deserves it. she already died once. 


Call it a "unicorn ending" or a "disney ending", whatever. I wanted a seriously happy ending where everyone was throwing medals and high-fives my direction. I think shep earned it.

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It is weird to me that after a couple days I am still upset and angry about this but I guess countless hours since 2007 on with otherwise borderline great game will do that.

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Jago360 wrote...

Oh man, can someone hit the paragon button, pls and hug me? I'm crying for almost 12 hours now :-( Live sucks enough, why i need to cry for a video game? I'm such a big fan of Bioware and Mass Effect, but what did i wrong to deserve this ending?
Sry for my english, I'm german^^


*Paragon Hug*
yes, i still feel exactly like this. 

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 harbringer guarding the beam and wiping everyone out was :o

anderson dying was :crying:

God Child was :blink:

Normandy "epilogue" scene was <_<

Basically, my over all feeling when it was all over (as i have said many times) was as follows..

 http://superiorreali...nd-bullshit.jpg

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cannedcream wrote...

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Is it too much to ask to have my little blue babies?


Or to build my quarian a house on her homeworld?

Not so much to ask.


Or to retire someplace warm and sunny with him and adopt lots of Human and Turian (and maybe Krogan) orphans?

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Nefelius wrote...
it's not about wanting a brigh ending, it's about the defenders assume by some space magic that we're ALL here whining due to lack of unicorns.


- excuse-me for my possible bad english, I'm french -

I get your point. But what I don't understand, it's the reason why a hypothetic majority asking for unicorns and happy ending will be laughable and so impossible in ME3 under some circonstances. 

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When is BioWare going to answer us about this DLC? Damn, i paid it for a proper ending not this ****.


The game just came out.  So I think it will be a few weeks.

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Sterenn wrote...

Nefelius wrote...
it's not about wanting a brigh ending, it's about the defenders assume by some space magic that we're ALL here whining due to lack of unicorns.


- excuse-me for my possible bad english, I'm french -

I get your point. But what I don't understand, it's the reason why a hypothetic majority asking for unicorns and happy ending will be laughable and so impossible in ME3 under some circonstances. 


I think if anything the "choose you own adventure" style of mass effect, should try to satisfy most of the fanbase, whether it be by a happy unicorn ending or a grim hopeless one. We want the ability to choose

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TaylorC183 wrote...

 harbringer guarding the beam and wiping everyone out was :o

anderson dying was :crying:

God Child was :blink:

Normandy "epilogue" scene was <_<

Basically, my over all feeling when it was all over (as i have said many times) was as follows..

 http://superiorrealities.files.wordpress.com/2012/01/elrond-bullshit.jpg


God Child my ass, he's an ignorant, like the Reapers. he thinks that he can control the future, life!
If Nymeria had a choice she'd tell him "*** YOU" and throw him to one of the choices and then Joker picks her up and land on that planet with all her friends and lover.

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I've been sitting here trying to put words to my overall disappointment with the ending. To make all the choices, the pursuit of a love interest, and to bring the galaxy together to stop what was perceived as 'unstoppable' only to have it thrown in my face as pointless has left me kinda numb.

All three options make NO sense. Take control, merge with them, or destroy them all ends with the same results: The destruction of the Mass Relay Network, the stranding of the Normandy, and the survival/death of the main character.

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Mhgasa wrote...

Sterenn wrote...

Nefelius wrote...
it's not about wanting a brigh ending, it's about the defenders assume by some space magic that we're ALL here whining due to lack of unicorns.


- excuse-me for my possible bad english, I'm french -

I get your point. But what I don't understand, it's the reason why a hypothetic majority asking for unicorns and happy ending will be laughable and so impossible in ME3 under some circonstances. 


I think if anything the "choose you own adventure" style of mass effect, should try to satisfy most of the fanbase, whether it be by a happy unicorn ending or a grim hopeless one. We want the ability to choose


1)  If you choose to destroy the Reapers, turn to page 37, section A.

2)  If you choose to control the Reapers, turn to page 37, Section A.

3)  If you choose to... oh, never mind.   Just turn to page 37 and be grateful we bothered writing it.  I'm partying at GDC and you losers can kiss my butt.  

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Also somewhat disappointed with the endings. After all the trouble to get Geths and Quarians to work together, curing the Genophage, etc. etc., no matter what I did the endings didn't vary enough to reward these events... so in the end, all my Shep did was for nothing.