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Gamer Genocider wrote...

BioWare won't comment yet because not everybody has completed the game. One of there community managers said they can't spoil it for everyone.

Where did you see this?

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Aw, come on. This Hallucination/Indoctrination thing is a wish. It won't fit the whole marketing and even if is true, it would be even more sad that the whole Mass Effect Series was a fairy tale.

It was already reduced to a fairy tale when they put up a weird post credits sequence that reduces it to a legendary story being told to a kid

Also, I love how the idea of fairy tale (not even as THE option, just as one option) bugs people, but a magical ray that magic turns people and animals and plants into cyborgs... that's cool.

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Mhgasa wrote...

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it's not about wanting a brigh ending, it's about the defenders assume by some space magic that we're ALL here whining due to lack of unicorns.


- excuse-me for my possible bad english, I'm french -

I get your point. But what I don't understand, it's the reason why a hypothetic majority asking for unicorns and happy ending will be laughable and so impossible in ME3 under some circonstances. 


I think if anything the "choose you own adventure" style of mass effect, should try to satisfy most of the fanbase, whether it be by a happy unicorn ending or a grim hopeless one. We want the ability to choose



I couldn't agree more. In any other series the creators could have fairly said "we can't make everyone happy." But in this series they COULD make everyone happy! They just had to give us the choices. There should have been a happily-ever-after ending for people who wanted that, there should have been a terribly dark half-victory for those who wanted that, and there should have been more middle of the road options for thoese who wanted that.

The simple truth is, no matter what ending they came up with it was never going to fit every Shepard, there REALLY needed to be a variety of endings in a game like this, and I honestly thought they understood that.

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Aramina wrote...

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At this point im not buying into anything. The whole dream/hallucination thing just seems too *nuts* to do this way. But who knows. I just want to hear a reaction from BW. Then we can go from there.


I am getting a bit suspicious at the almost complete lack of anything from Bioware. I mean, look at this thread...no replies from staff at all? Not even a "we're listening to your comments" or a "we're sorry you feel this way, but..."?


This gave some extra hope check it out it about all the solid news we have: http://social.biowar.../index/9707978 

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"I expected these endings to be for someone that didn't try hard enough"

Agree

Modifié par bpzrn, 11 mars 2012 - 05:14 .


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Gamer Genocider wrote...

BioWare won't comment yet because not everybody has completed the game. One of there community managers said they can't spoil it for everyone.

BWAHAHAHAAHA SPOIL IT?!! OH WOW

It should have been fixed ASAP.

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 From Michael Gamble's (producer for ME3) twitter account: "Hardest. Day. Ever. Seriously, if you people knew all the stuff we are planning...you'd, we'll [sic] - hold onto your copy of me3 forever."

 

"Prepare for the upcoming Mass Effect 3 alternate Ending DLC. It comes in thee beautiful colors for just 1260 Bioware Points each".

Modifié par MrPuschel, 11 mars 2012 - 05:19 .


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all bioware had/have to do is three thing for a better ending

1 make the shep live ending requirement a bit lower as to not need the MP I play for the story not the combat and MP is just combat.

2 If shepherd died the have a 2-3 min CGI of a funeral with LI and crew like in DA:O

3 if shepherd lives have a 2-3 min cut scene of a reward ceremony with crew and LI

folowd by a text box outro telling the player what happened next

is/was that to much to ask

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The endings were simply unacceptable, Bioware was doing better writing years ago when they made BG and it's expansions and such and I refuse to believe they just forgot how to do good writing or that the entire company was replaced. I must ask, no nay beg, plead with you Bioware give us true endings and stop ignoring us! Give us a sign that you're at least heeding our words to some extent please.

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Jynx161 wrote...

Mhgasa wrote...

Sterenn wrote...

Nefelius wrote...
it's not about wanting a brigh ending, it's about the defenders assume by some space magic that we're ALL here whining due to lack of unicorns.


- excuse-me for my possible bad english, I'm french -

I get your point. But what I don't understand, it's the reason why a hypothetic majority asking for unicorns and happy ending will be laughable and so impossible in ME3 under some circonstances. 



"I couldn't agree more. In any other series the creators could have
fairly said "we can't make everyone happy." But in this series they
COULD make everyone happy!"

I think if anything the "choose you own adventure" style of mass effect, should try to satisfy most of the fanbase, whether it be by a happy unicorn ending or a grim hopeless one. We want the ability to choose



I couldn't agree more. In any other series the creators could have fairly said "we can't make everyone happy." But in this series they COULD make everyone happy! They just had to give us the choices. There should have been a happily-ever-after ending for people who wanted that, there should have been a terribly dark half-victory for those who wanted that, and there should have been more middle of the road options for thoese who wanted that.

The simple truth is, no matter what ending they came up with it was never going to fit every Shepard, there REALLY needed to be a variety of endings in a game like this, and I honestly thought they understood that.





I know that poll is not "everyone", but 18,000 votes 87% of that are unhappy customers a good sample.

BW/EA have got the mojority of players dissapointed, angry and upset at thier choice of poorly thought out, limmited choice and dismal endings no matter what effort you put  in to be "ready" at end game

Modifié par bpzrn, 11 mars 2012 - 05:21 .


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MrPuschel wrote...

 [qoute]
From Michael Gamble's (producer for ME3) twitter account: "Hardest. Day. Ever. Seriously, if you people knew all the stuff we are planning...you'd, we'll [sic] - hold onto your copy of me3 forever."[/qoute]

"Prepare for the upcoming Mass Effect 3 alternate Ending DLC. It comes in thee beautiful colors for just 1260 Bioware Points each".


If the real ending is not free, I'll buy it but ME3 related products will be all that I'll buy. They will lose me as a loyal and I will not try future products.

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I apologize in advance if this has been posted here before, but in case it has not:

http://social.biowar...5/index/9762951

A topic for those having difficulties coping with how the game ends. You may find support here :-)

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Aramina wrote...

Gallion33103 wrote...

At this point im not buying into anything. The whole dream/hallucination thing just seems too *nuts* to do this way. But who knows. I just want to hear a reaction from BW. Then we can go from there.


I am getting a bit suspicious at the almost complete lack of anything from Bioware. I mean, look at this thread...no replies from staff at all? Not even a "we're listening to your comments" or a "we're sorry you feel this way, but..."?


Not even Mr. EoL <_<

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Rosery99 wrote...

The endings were simply unacceptable, Bioware was doing better writing years ago when they made BG and it's expansions and such and I refuse to believe they just forgot how to do good writing or that the entire company was replaced. I must ask, no nay beg, plead with you Bioware give us true endings and stop ignoring us! Give us a sign that you're at least heeding our words to some extent please.


I posted this above here, take a look u might like wht u see http://social.biowar...5/index/9707978

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AlphaJarmel wrote...

I would pay for Happy Ending DLC. No joke.


I can second that!

I relly hope that we'll get a happy ending trough DLC , not very likely thogh

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LethesDeep wrote...

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I still say everyone is overreacting. The ending was what it was unsatisfactory. Leave it at that you don't need to make a 717 page thread declaring your hatred and and depression from the ending. More than likely their gonna pull a Fallout 3 with an epilogue DLC.

With the amount of people enraged it would be very profitable for EA.


You just contradicted yourself.

How would EA know about the amount of people that are enraged over this without a 714 page thread?


No I didn't contradict myself I was merely  stating an observation of what could result from this fan rage. Resultingly such a  DLC would could ease everyone's minds, and due to how much people are craving a different ending EA could capitalize on that.


So we should all just mentally rage over how unsatisfactory the endings are and hope that the telepaths over at BioWare pick up on the bad vibes? Then hope further that they figure out what is causing the bad vibes and release a DLC to ease the bad vibes so they can go back to bending spoons in peace? That's what it sounds like you're suggesting to me and that's stupid. Nothing is ever changed unless people speak up about it. Would black people have rights in America now if they hadn't spoken up 50 years ago? Would the American colonies have effectively separated from England if people hadn't had a rallying cry to stand behind? No, they wouldn't (yes I know it's absurd to compare those events to the ME3 outrage, but it's the big events that people remember). Therefore, if we want Bioware to change ME3 we need to let them know. This thread is as good a way as any other (and better than some I can think of).

back on topic, I beat the game on the seventh and I'm still having trouble accepting that is what they shipped. And when I say "having trouble" I mean like "I'm starting to think I got into a car crash and this is all a coma dream" kind of trouble. Those endings throw nearly every major theme and character in the series under the bus just for the sake of TEH DRAMAZ.


I know, I was like "I must be asleep, no way they dropped the ball this badly". I then pinched myself. It hurt. "Darn, I'm actually awake."

If only these endings could have been a nightmare...

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At the least the hallucination theory can be a way to make the new ending tie in, like say shooting the catalyst to break the hallucination to get true ending.
I reallllllly hope that is what they have up their sleeve, but haven't released yet, if they acually thought the current endings where good I won't be buying another bioware/EA game unless they fix it.

Modifié par firas333, 11 mars 2012 - 05:24 .


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cotheer wrote...

Aramina wrote...

Gallion33103 wrote...

At this point im not buying into anything. The whole dream/hallucination thing just seems too *nuts* to do this way. But who knows. I just want to hear a reaction from BW. Then we can go from there.


I am getting a bit suspicious at the almost complete lack of anything from Bioware. I mean, look at this thread...no replies from staff at all? Not even a "we're listening to your comments" or a "we're sorry you feel this way, but..."?


Not even Mr. EoL <_<





Good thing they made thier $$$ if this system had a refund based on satisfation they be losing a lot of sales and you can bet they would be posting here and everyplace else to save thier sales.


It seems they dont care about this group of customers at least, mehhh maybe we are the small minority? and millions of customers are supper happy..........

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Abandon hope all ye who enter:

https://twitter.com/...995183198183427

Modifié par SandTrout, 11 mars 2012 - 05:25 .


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KaiserinKai wrote...


I know, I was like "I must be asleep, no way they dropped the ball this badly". I then pinched myself. It hurt. "Darn, I'm actually awake."

If only these endings could have been a nightmare...


Same. I genuinely thought at one point that this was just a bad dream. Not only was it so mind-numbingly depressing, it also made less and less sense the more I thought about it. And then I just didn't wake up. Now it's 3 days later. It's absurd how bad the ending is.

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 5 years of Mass Effect has led to this moment!  CRAPPY ENDING!

This is the worst ending I've seen since the finale of lost.

Unanswered questions, huge plot holes, Magic God Child, no idea who lives and dies.

So if this catalyst (Magic God Child) is part of the Citadel then why in ME1 was Sovereign forced to jump through hoops to find allies to retake the Citadel??? (Huge Plot Hole)
Harbinger and the rest of the Reapers are forced to travel at FTL speeds to get back into the galaxy.You'd think Magic God Child would simply open the citadel relay when its time for the next cycle of extinction, but no, he seemed to have spent the last 2 games with his divine thumbs shoved up his divine **** doing nothing other then making it extremely difficult for the Reapers to carry the very thing he programmed them to do. ("What a douche bag")

Also in each ending we see all of the relays being destroyed which is pretty bad considering what we learnt from the arrival dlc, Destroyed relays produce a nova capable of destroying an entire star system, so I think we can safely assume which ever ending you choose doesn't matter because everybody is dead including your squad, allies, Earth is destroyed, fleets of united races you spent the whole game gathering are wiped out and lets not forget most of the primitive society's that just happen to reside on worlds near to the vicinity of a relay are all extinguished. So we could now have a galaxy divide of any life with the exception of that one planet the Normandy crashed on... Brilliant! I supose thats one way of solving the Reaper threat.
And where the hell was the Normandy going? where they trying to outrun the nova brought on by the destruction of the relay destroying earths solar system? or did the Normandy travel through a relay before hand and were trying to outrun the blast wave to the next relay point? Did any other ships try to escape this way?  What planet did the Normandy crash on? Why do Squad member appear here when they where with Shepard during the final run? Are they alive? Are they all dead is this some sort of afterlife? Who is the old man and child in the scene after the end credits? What the hell is going on?

Well Bioware you almost did it, You come very close to creating a fantastic game and for the most part it was a enjoyable experience. It was let down by a terrible ending to the point of making no sense.I don't mind sad endings,  I just prefer endings that make some sense, ties up loose threads and give us closure on the storys and characters which this fails to do, and more importantly show us the consequence of all Shepard's past decisions from past games.
Here we get nothing, in fact the ending is so open to interpretation that its hard to decide if what happened was real or part of a dream brought on by Reaper indoctrination which at this point would make more sense.

Overall a disappointing end to a very good game.

Modifié par zaalbar76, 11 mars 2012 - 05:33 .


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Logging you out, Shepard...

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SandTrout wrote...

Abandon hope all ye who enter:

https://twitter.com/...995183198183427


Uh oh...

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Secret ending

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Anyone else hear about the "secret" ending the requires a second play through?
Edit: do'h 

Modifié par ARCTIC EAGLE, 11 mars 2012 - 05:31 .