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[Ikikata]

I just hope the indoc theories are correct, and Bioware had this intended from the very start. But didn't see this fan uproar coming. They'd have then reveal an expansion for ME3 giving us the real ending.

But yea, for me it felt like a thousand slaps to the face when the ending was over. The first time I saw it was before I know of the other endings, so I was like "okay, it's ok, but not that good, it definitly missed a lot of details, and has plotholes", I actually really like the part where Joker is trying his best to get away from the blast in the Normandy, I stopped breathing while that happened.

When I found out that the 2 other endings were 99% similiar I went mad and raged the rest of the night. While the game had my rolling a tear 3 times before the ending, the fact that I'd never get closure with my companions and LI was the worst thing that had happened. More manly tears were shed

Modifié par Ikikata, 11 mars 2012 - 07:22 .

[monima]

Well added my vote for a new ending. One can only hope.
I doubt they will sell many dlc though, whats the point, we all know how it ends. I wont buy anything to do with mass effect. simply because the ending made me loose interest for the entire series. Unless we get a better end

[Miraider]

MordiMoro wrote...

The end for me:

Mass Effect 3 has sold 3.5 million copies
20000 fans complain about the final
We had said that the ending would have disappointed some players
3.5 million - to 20000 = 3.480000000 liked, remains so, sorry

Many haven't  finished yet, some haven't even started.

[JPshieux]

MordiMoro wrote...

The end for me:

Mass Effect 3 has sold 3.5 million copies
20000 fans complain about the final
We had said that the ending would have disappointed some players
3.5 million - to 20000 = 3.480000000 liked, remains so, sorry

As I have stated several times in the past few days:

What you are getting on the forums are the users who are able to register their copy of the game as well as speak english and know of the forum's existance in the first place and willing to post their opinon.  3.5 million copies worldwide and I can assure you that there is no way of getting everyone who bought the game to come into this specific forum to make their opinions known.  Not only that, a percentage of that number are the copies for game stores in order for them to have stock and in no way means that there are 3.5 million game owners. 

Think of the forums as the sample group.  If the sample group's majority is discontent the possibility that the majorty of game owners are also discontnet is very high. 

This is how you get statictics.  From sample groups.  We are the sample group. 

Modifié par Schirach, 11 mars 2012 - 07:26 .

[Jared-H]

The thing a lot of people aren't getting, who think we're a small number, is that a lot of people haven't finished the game since its been out for less than a week. Already there's 20000 people who do not like the ending so I think that number will grow a lot since I found this page after searching about the ending. Furthermore, every user score on metacritic that is a perfect 10 is from someone who hasn't beaten the game yet but is loving it at the moment. I felt the same way until I finished the game and I think a lot of them will too.

Modifié par Jared-H, 11 mars 2012 - 07:27 .

[thedistortedchild]

MordiMoro wrote...

Aurellia wrote...

MordiMoro wrote...

The end for me:

Mass Effect 3 has sold 3.5 million copies
20000 fans complain about the final
We had said that the ending would have disappointed some players
3.5 million - to 20000 = 3.480000000 liked, remains so, sorry

This is so beyond silly that it almost has to be a troll.

You assume that the only reason that the remaining 3.45M purchasers did note vote in the poll is because they liked the ending.  Of course things like the choice to participate in forums or whatnot do not matter...

One could argue that a poll here is not reprsentative of the overall userbase because we are likely hard core fans.  But you aren't making that argument.

I no troll, my english is bad, i am italian... maybe I explained bad. Is my fear, a thought, a hope that is not so...

So you think that BioWare will assume we are just a vocal minority and not a large part of their consumer base? I can see that happening. <_<

[VxKhamulxV]

It's important you all know, my 150+ hours of emotionally invested, hard decisions came out to be a blue laz0r beam.

Just saying.

[Ikikata]

Miraider wrote...

MordiMoro wrote...

The end for me:

Mass Effect 3 has sold 3.5 million copies
20000 fans complain about the final
We had said that the ending would have disappointed some players
3.5 million - to 20000 = 3.480000000 liked, remains so, sorry

Many haven't  finished yet, some haven't even started.

Yeah, one of my friends first started today. And another actually got a pc copy (multiplayer with me), and a xbox copy the single. And he haven't started either.

And as it has said, not every consumer it on the forums, while yes, it's the more hardcore fans, doesn't change the fact that a lot of people, in a very short amount of time have shown unhappyness with these endings. And I'm sure there are tons more out there who doesn't care about BSN, or simply don't know about it. That also dislikes the endings.

[Aiden_Cora]

I just noticed that the poll says "the endings suck, we want a brighter one". Wouldn't surprise me if they actually release the same endings with brighter colors

[mscotch]

Kloborgg711 wrote... 

I don't mean to fuss, but doesn't it bother you that the synthesis solution involves a single pulse of "energy" installing complex hardware into every single living thing in the galaxy instantaneously?

The catalyst said something about creating a new form of DNA. I didn't really view it as the energy beam grafting hardware onto all organic life but more just altering the genetic information. I admit it does look like everyone has circuits on them but I just wrote that off as a visual cue to the ending you chose. There's quite a few things in this game that are hard to imagine like how the Rachni can communicate instantaneously without using quantum entanglement. X-rays can damage your DNA, I guess this green beam can cause it to incorporate different elements. 

Anyways, I was just saying out of the existing endings, I like that one the best because it would end the threat of AI destroying organic life. 

If new endings were introduced, I'd like to be able to convince the Catalyst that he's wrong about AI eventually destroying organic life and that AI and Organic life can co-exist peacefully as is. The fact that you can convince the geth and quarians to work together and you can become friends with EDI supports this. The Reapers could then change their programming. The mass relays would remain intact.

Then I'd like a cutscene showing the Geth, Quarians, Krogan and Rachni with new seats on the Galactic Council since they all worked together to stop the Reaper threat.

The closing scene should be Shepard doing his club dance.

Modifié par mscotch, 11 mars 2012 - 07:29 .

[cotheer]

Miraider wrote...

Endings presented at the end of ME3 aren't endings of Shepard's story for this very reason. Differences between the endings are to big in galactic scale that it wouldn't be possible to incorporate those differences in new Mass Effect games. Unless timeline in new game would predate ME3...

Exactly.
I personally believe that this is the end of shepards's story aswell as the end of ME universe aka new games in it.
Call me pessimist, but i realy can't see a way for them to do a story on the same scale of "epicness" of ME1-3 games 'cause the battle of these proportions is usually left for the last game/book/movie or w/e.
Also, i already posted a link in which they stated they have no plans "so far" of doing another game in ME universe, which would be pretty ****ty if you ask me because they have a wonderful world and setting to work on, granted, those are destroyed in ME3.

Prequel would just...suck, i want to see my Shepard in an Admiral uniform damn it. >_<

[The Big Palooka]

BobbyTheI wrote...

I'm just going to post this here for posterity, because I know this is exactly what's going to happen, and I want it on record.

When BioWare finally does issue a statement about all this, the only thing they will address is that it's not a happy ending. They will go on and on about "It's war, and people die," and "A story like this wasn't going to have a happy ending," and paint everybody complaining about this as just whiners who wanted their Shepard and favorite bed partner to get together and be happy at the end.

They will ignore the bad plot holes, the tortured logic, the hideous writing, and just address it on a level of "Well, you didn't like the ending because it wasn't the one you hoped for, but there was no way we could please everybody, so sorry."

Mark my words, it's what's coming.

This thought has occurred to me too.

TBH, at this point, if that does happen?  I can only say that I genuinely hope the cohesiveness I've seen among the fans asking for a new ending can be retained and focused into boycotting of future Bioware products/ME merch.  I feel bad, but I can't think of any other way to respond.

[soske aizen]

Jared-H wrote...

The thing a lot of people aren't getting is that a lot of people haven't finished the game since its been out for less than a week. Already there's 20000 people who do not like the ending so I think that number will grow a lot since I found this page after searching about the ending. Furthermore, every user score on metacritic that is a perfect 10 is from someone who hasn't beaten the game yet but is loving it at the moment. I felt the same way until I finished the game and I think a lot of them will too.

 
up till the end i would have gave the game 12/10 if i could but after the end...i cant even look at tthe game box

[xistfirat]

MordiMoro wrote...


The end for me:

Mass Effect 3 has sold 3.5 million copies
20000 fans complain about the final
We had said that the ending would have disappointed some players
3.5 million - to 20000 = 3.480000000 liked, remains so, sorry

that's not how it works. we're the voice of the buyers, we're the ones who give their ideas. if 90% of the forum community hates the ending, at least 60% of the buyers hates the ending, we're just the ones who actually come here and say that, the rest doesn't bother. 

and most of us actually demand paid dlc for a new ending, that's really good for business.

[JPshieux]

Aiden_Cora wrote...

I just noticed that the poll says "the endings suck, we want a brighter one". Wouldn't surprise me if they actually release the same endings with brighter colors

Hahahahaha!  I can see it now:

"What? Blue Green and Red wasn't enough?  Okay, here you go!  Purple, Yellow and Fuchsia if you are feeling daring!"

Modifié par Schirach, 11 mars 2012 - 07:30 .

[mauro2222]

christrek1982 wrote...

Monica_de_Ladur wrote...

And I thought after the ending of Dragon Age 2 it couldn't get worse...

hell i would go so far as to say DA2's ending is way better

Yeah, at least you know what happened after, and my Hawke escaped with his lover.

[Dan Rosse]

MordiMoro wrote...

My fear...for me Bioware respondes:

Mass Effect 3 has sold 3.5 million copies
20000 fans complain about the final
We had said that the ending would have disappointed some players
3.5 million - t20000 = 3.48 milion, the endig game remains so, sorry

Didn't complains don't means ‘like’. Remember all democratic revolutions around the world. Many people wanted democracy still so few actually fought for it, yet all of them are winners today (remember France revolution around 1789).

[Nathos]

@JessicaMerizan Question: With all the negative feedback about the ME3 ending is Bioware going to acknowledged it, or just leave it be?

@TheSqueaky we are listening and remaining spoiler free for now as many have not played yet.

Link

[thedistortedchild]

I've been telling my friends that they can borrow my copy instead of buying their own. I've also been telling them to stop before the last half hour.

[MrPuschel]

Should switch the poll in "We want a more worked trough ending". Because i believe the most people could live with the fact that Shepard dies (which he does not if you got enough war assets) if it has a proper introduction and is reasonable. Also it should show how the galaxie just "is" after sheprd is dead. In fact, Grunts near-death sequence then the talk with the space-magic-god-child-avatar.

[MordiMoro]

thedistortedchild wrote...

So you think that BioWare will assume we are just a vocal minority and not a large part of their consumer base? I can see that happening. <_<

I do not think... I said that is my fear ... I do not want

[KroganBillie]

Also, this sums up my feelings on the ending(Because really, it was the same ending, just with your firey doom coming in 3 flavours)

[Xellith]

If they dont change it then im gonna be royally p/**ed off. Return my collectors edition and never buy another bioware product again. This is just disgusting.

THE FELLOWSHIP OF THE RING COMPLETES MASS EFFECT 3:
www.youtube.com/watch

Modifié par Xellith, 11 mars 2012 - 07:32 .

[Nyila]

Kloborgg711 wrote...

CronoDragoon wrote...

I don't get these "screw happy endings" people. Like only immature kids want happy endings? Lord of the Rings was totally great until it's sucky happy ending with people getting married, rebuilding, moving on with their lives, right? Yeah screw all that.

Lord of the Rings according to ME3:

Frodo arrives on Mount Doom. He's about to cast the Ring into the fire when OMG MORGOTH shows up. Turns out he commanded Sauron to craft the Rings of Power because elves were too powerful and would have destroyed the other races otherwise. Morgoth tells Frodo he has three choices: He can become the NEW MASTER OF THE ONE RING and lose his personhood to control all the forces of darkness into not destroying mankind. He can disseminate the one ring's power into all races, making them all part elf! (somehow) or he can destroy the one ring, but the elves all die, his friends and allies all scattered to the far corners of Midgard. Oh, and in all choices gaping chasms open up between all major cities, preventing any sort of feasible travel.

Man, so much deeper than the ending we got.

Okay, too much sarcasm in this post, but I think the general scope of the comparison fits. Both series were supposed to be about hope. about unbending free will, about one person making all the difference.

Frodo also dies instantly in the first two options, but in the third his lifeless corpse is seen stirring in the middle of an active volcano, giving everyone hope.
Not to mention right after making his choice, Frodo turns around to see Sam high-tailing it out of Mordor joining up with Aragorn, Gandalf, Gimli, and Legolas as they ride off to abandon the forces of Gondor.

Haha that's priceless! And so true! The comparison is spot-on, yes both stories were about hope and building alliances against an enemy nobody could have defeated alone.

[SpartanChiva]

I'm going to start by saying that Mass Effect 3 is a spectacular game. I've never been as committed to a game's story as this ones. One can truly live this game and care for characters as one would do in real life. There are some technical issues that I'm sure can be assessed with updates, but are as minor that don't occlude the whole.

That said.

After 5 somewhat years of being faithful to this franchise. Being inspired to become part of the game industry by it. I believe that Bioware owes us a longer ending. One with more closure.

Considering the amount of love that was given to the main quest. How complex character development and progression was. The ending felt very lazy and cheap.

I had a discussion with a friend of mine. And when she described her ending, I realized that it was practically the same one I had, only different characters would pop out depending on your decision.

That is not enough. I felt empty after the game ended. I really didn't feel the need for another playthrough. And I wished I could see what happened to my comrades. In my case, did Liara have my child. It would have been nice, that instead of a random individual telling the story of "The Shepard" to a random child, it could have been her telling it to his daughter. Things like that, that would make the journey more worthwhile.

I believe that the old person talking to the kid, after the end credits, is Joker. Which is a nice assumption. But it lacks so much, that still, it's not enough.

I only ask for an update and an ending that truly matters. You owe us, the fans, Bioware.