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[Kloborgg711]

mscotch wrote...

Kloborgg711 wrote... 

I don't mean to fuss, but doesn't it bother you that the synthesis solution involves a single pulse of "energy" installing complex hardware into every single living thing in the galaxy instantaneously?

The catalyst said something about creating a new form of DNA. I didn't really view it as the energy beam grafting hardware onto all organic life but more just altering the genetic information. I admit it does look like everyone has circuits on them but I just wrote that off as a visual cue to the ending you chose. There's quite a few things in this game that are hard to imagine like how the Rachni can communicate instantaneously without using quantum entanglement. X-rays can damage your DNA, I guess this green beam can cause it to incorporate different elements. 

Anyways, I was just saying out of the existing endings, I like that one the best because it would end the threat of AI destroying organic life. 

If new endings were introduced, I'd like to be able to convince the Catalyst that he's wrong about AI eventually destroying organic life and that AI and Organic life can co-exist peacefully as is. The fact that you can convince the geth and quarians to work together and you can become friends with EDI supports this. The Reapers could then change their programming. The mass relays would remain intact.

Then I'd like a cutscene showing the Geth, Quarians, Krogan and Rachni with new seats on the Galactic Council since they all worked together to stop the Reaper threat.

The closing scene should be Shepard doing his club dance.

Well, first of all, I'm assuming that all the non-Earth species in the Galaxy don't share "DNA" the way we do, or at least they don't have the genetic 4-letter code. And it's clear this "synthesis" affects all organic life, regardless of its origin. Also, I don't care how much you "alter" DNA, you cannot get cells to suddenly create metal alloys and circuits and wiring within a body. Not instantly, not without, at the very best, a long excrutiatingly painful process.

Modifié par Kloborgg711, 11 mars 2012 - 07:33 .

[Stormghost]

Just finished the game tonight and I have a more practical criticism of how the endings played out. When I spoke to the ghost-child (or whatever that thing was), and he told me to choose a path to take, he didn't tell me which path was which, and I had no idea what each side represented. So I foolishly took the left path just to see what it said when I got up there. The option available said something like 'Activate Controls', and this was not what I wanted to do (I intended to destroy the reapers) so I tried to go back down to take the other path, but the game didn't let me and my Shepard was stuck to the spot in front of the control panel. So I had to take this option even though it wasn't my preferred choice.

The ending I got (and I assume the rest were similar) was just very confusing and out of touch with the rest of the series. If any of you are familiar with the Silent Hill games, it felt similar to an 'Alien Ending' in those games, where nothing makes sense and the main character acts like it's all normal.

[Count Viceroy]

soske aizen wrote...

up till the end i would have gave the game 12/10 if i could but after the end...i cant even look at tthe game box

Tell me about it, I'd rate the game as one of the best ones I've had the pleasure of playing, until the last half hour.

At least the multiplayer is fun...

It feels like Bioware is making a statement about being done and done with the mass effect universe by blowing up all the relays and I really doubt they would go into prequel territory.

Modifié par Count Viceroy, 11 mars 2012 - 07:35 .

[Sharrack]

Count Viceroy wrote...
Sure, have bad endings, have bittersweet ones as these are, but allow for a decent one as well :/

Can't see how they are bitterseet (i could live with bitterseet,not really my favorite but if done right bittersweet is great), in my opinion they are just bitter as they don't show us actual results beyond the one scene on earth and the normandy crashing somewhere, theres not enough emotion to add some sweet to the bitter.

[Apathy1989]

 Just finished game. Massive emotional drain. 

Seriously... all ending should be bittersweet, but this is just bitter. Entirely bitter. There is no sweet here. No one cares about humanities distant future enough for this to be bittersweet. 

What we care about is the characters that have been cultivated over 3 games. Some should die, but some should live and continue there lives. Remembering the lost, but living onward in happiness despite this.

[Aramina]

cotheer wrote...

Miraider wrote...

Endings presented at the end of ME3 aren't endings of Shepard's story for this very reason. Differences between the endings are to big in galactic scale that it wouldn't be possible to incorporate those differences in new Mass Effect games. Unless timeline in new game would predate ME3...

Exactly.
I personally believe that this is the end of shepards's story aswell as the end of ME universe aka new games in it.
Call me pessimist, but i realy can't see a way for them to do a story on the same scale of "epicness" of ME1-3 games 'cause the battle of these proportions is usually left for the last game/book/movie or w/e.
Also, i already posted a link in which they stated they have no plans "so far" of doing another game in ME universe, which would be pretty ****ty if you ask me because they have a wonderful world and setting to work on, granted, those are destroyed in ME3.

Prequel would just...suck, i want to see my Shepard in an Admiral uniform damn it. >_<

Depends what kind of prequel. Rachni war prequel? Krogan rebellion prequel? Perhaps even a First Contact War prequel? I would pay money for any of these. But if you mean a Shepard prequel...that would be too tough to do anyway, considering the possibility of 9 different origins.

[MrPuschel]

Besides, the roflcopter just arrived: http://filesmelt.com..._of_copy.jpg x3

Modifié par MrPuschel, 11 mars 2012 - 07:34 .

[C1n]

I just finished the game and I don't know what to say. It was all perfect until the end. Why Bioware? All the mass relays destroyed which means the end of the Mass effect universe as we know. What happends with the entire fleet that is left stranded at earth? Why is Joker suddenly flying away from the blast, only to be stranded on a unknown planet with Garrus and Liara who were both with my Shep on earth?

This makes no sense! Have you never heard of closure? You give is 150+ hours of gameplay only to end the series like this? What happend to everybody? You don't do that to people who are emotionally invested in this game. It ends so abruptly... I feel so empty, like I've wasted so many hours. All has been for nothing.

What the hell Bioware? What the hell!

[ArmyKnifeX]

Schirach wrote...

As I have stated several times in the past few days:

What you are getting on the forums are the users who are able to register their copy of the game as well as speak english and know of the forum's existance in the first place and willing to post their opinon.  3.5 million copies worldwide and I can assure you that there is no way of getting everyone who bought the game to come into this specific forum to make their opinions known.  Not only that, a percentage of that number are the copies for game stores in order for them to have stock and in no way means that there are 3.5 million game owners. 

Think of the forums as the sample group.  If the sample group's majority is discontent the possibility that the majorty of game owners are also discontnet is very high. 

This is how you get statictics.  From sample groups.  We are the sample group. 

We're a terrible sample group because the best assumption that can be made is that this group will be heavily skewed towards disliking the ending because we're self selected. People who like the ending just fine are more likely to ignore the forums and not complain.

If the massive poll is anything, it's a petition for disgruntled fans and people who understand games and what they are and how they work and why ME3 failed. From a statistical point of view, we're the worst possible sample group. A better group would be to randomly poll people via Origin who bought the game. And those results may
contradict what we're saying. The question is whether or not BioWare cares about us.

On an unrelated note I'd just like to mention that since I've been playing ME1 again, I'm finding ME3 lacking in choice throughout. In ME1, I'd like to remind everyone, not a single line of dialog is uttered by Shepard unless you choose it. In ME3 I'd guess that at least 60% of everything Shepard says is out of the player's control. If this is what the devs thing "choice" is then it's sadly unsurprising that they think choosing the color of the lasers in a Pink Floyd show really means true player choice.

If that's the case, then we really should abandon hope, because the devs aparently don't undrestand their own property just like George Lucas doesn't understand Star Wars.

[Nyila]

Schirach wrote...

Aiden_Cora wrote...

I just noticed that the poll says "the endings suck, we want a brighter one". Wouldn't surprise me if they actually release the same endings with brighter colors

Hahahahaha!  I can see it now:

"What? Blue Green and Red wasn't enough?  Okay, here you go!  Purple, Yellow and Fuchsia if you are feeling daring!"

How about all the colors of the rainbow? An epic journey where Shepard gets to decide what his/her favorite color is!

[Kandon Arc]

Aiden_Cora wrote...

I just noticed that the poll says "the endings suck, we want a brighter one". Wouldn't surprise me if they actually release the same endings with brighter colors

A fourth ending, with a bright white light, would solve EVERYTHING.

[Count Viceroy]

Sharrack wrote...

Count Viceroy wrote...
Sure, have bad endings, have bittersweet ones as these are, but allow for a decent one as well :/

Can't see how they are bitterseet (i could live with bitterseet,not really my favorite but if done right bittersweet is great), in my opinion they are just bitter as they don't show us actual results beyond the one scene on earth and the normandy crashing somewhere, theres not enough emotion to add some sweet to the bitter.

I was just trying to be positive . But after watching the ending again I take that back. There's, as you say, nothing sweet about it.

[Miraider]

Nathos wrote...


@JessicaMerizan Question: With all the negative feedback about the ME3 ending is Bioware going to acknowledged it, or just leave it be?

@TheSqueaky we are listening and remaining spoiler free for now as many have not played yet.

Link

You should ask different question like when are they going to say something

[Szincza]

Nyila wrote...

Schirach wrote...

Aiden_Cora wrote...

I just noticed that the poll says "the endings suck, we want a brighter one". Wouldn't surprise me if they actually release the same endings with brighter colors

Hahahahaha!  I can see it now:

"What? Blue Green and Red wasn't enough?  Okay, here you go!  Purple, Yellow and Fuchsia if you are feeling daring!"

How about all the colors of the rainbow? An epic journey where Shepard gets to decide what his/her favorite color is!

What about unicorns, man?

[Nathos]

WHY THIS WAS CUT FROM THE GAME???????

[Ikikata]

Kandon Arc wrote...

Aiden_Cora wrote...

I just noticed that the poll says "the endings suck, we want a brighter one". Wouldn't surprise me if they actually release the same endings with brighter colors

A fourth ending, with a bright white light, would solve EVERYTHING.

No no... A rainbow coloured one would

[Flammenpanzer]

I'm throwing this in here for good measure for those who need a coping mechanism

Mass Effect 3 Alternate Ending

A fan-made ending I created to replace the one Bioware used to taint an
otherwise epic game. Hopefully others enjoy this as much as I do! I did
the best with what resources I could use to make it.

I imagined this taking place right after Shepard and Anderson were sitting down
looking at Earth, replacing the rest of the game after it. Still shows
reapers getting defeated (relays and citadel intact), some squad talk,
and something of a conclusion. Also means the galaxy is not screwed
nearly as bad as it was in the end of the original game.

[Trojan_33]

If this ending is not Shepherd dreaming or hallucinating (which I believe it is after reading the hallucination theory) then we can adopt this as the ending:  



SHEPHERD STRIKE!!!

(man I love this vid. I won't post it again b/c more than 2 times is spam in my mind)

Modifié par Trojan_33, 11 mars 2012 - 07:40 .

[Nathos]

Miraider wrote...

Nathos wrote...


@JessicaMerizan Question: With all the negative feedback about the ME3 ending is Bioware going to acknowledged it, or just leave it be?

@TheSqueaky we are listening and remaining spoiler free for now as many have not played yet.

Link

You should ask different question like when are they going to say something

It's not me, i just picked up on her Twitter.

[cotheer]

Found this on some site, and i fully agree. I've already stated that i have problem with the entire story of the game, not just endings which are kinda result of the whole problematic story.

My second issue with the ending is considerably more nit-picky but it really bugged me. When you have your nice little heart-to-heart with holo-boy at the end he mentions that the reason that the Reapers exist is because all organic life will eventually get to the point where they create synthetic life and those synthetics will proceed to wipe them out. My problem with this is that from a story-telling point of view they pulled this out of their asses.
If the threat that the Reapers were trying to suppress was the threat that synthetic life would destroy organic life every time then this should have been established as an over-arching theme of the series. It was not. The only time the theme of the dangers of synthetic life were with the Geth and the entire Geth plot in 3 directly contradicts what The Catalyst says. Instead of a race of synthetics that want to destroy all life we are presented with an inherently pacifist race of robots that only kill in self-defense. Hell, the ONLY time in the whole series that the Geth were aggressive against the organic races was when they were under the control of the Reapers (who were, in turn, under control of The Catalyst who was the one scared about synthetics killing everyone in the first place)!
If they wanted to roll with this story then we should have been shown the dangers of synthetics from the very beginning. Maybe we could have found more evidence from the supposed Metacron War the Protheans fought with their synthetics. Maybe show us some archaeological evidence from older cycles showing that they faced the same issues too. Don’t just pull this idea out at the last minute that seems to contradict all of the observed data and then make it the secret underpinning of the main plot of the story.

[Seducing-Pinata]

BioWare has gutted me with those endings. i've spent HUNDREDS of hours with this franchise. How can they do that to me... to us? I'm honestly so upset. I want some closure for the series that I'm so invested in, the series that, for all intensive purposes, I love.

[Sharrack]

Count Viceroy wrote...

Sharrack wrote...

Count Viceroy wrote...
Sure, have bad endings, have bittersweet ones as these are, but allow for a decent one as well :/

Can't see how they are bitterseet (i could live with bitterseet,not really my favorite but if done right bittersweet is great), in my opinion they are just bitter as they don't show us actual results beyond the one scene on earth and the normandy crashing somewhere, theres not enough emotion to add some sweet to the bitter.

I was just trying to be positive . But after watching the ending again I take that back. There's, as you say, nothing sweet about it.

Well there is actually one exception: there is one ending where Joker and EDI stand arm in arm looking at the planet they stranded on  (happened in the green one for me). That adds some sweet but it's not nearly enough.

[snekadid]

Xellith wrote...

If they dont change it then im gonna be royally p/**ed off. Return my collectors edition and never buy another bioware product again. This is just disgusting.

THE FELLOWSHIP OF THE RING COMPLETES MASS EFFECT 3:
www.youtube.com/watch

great clip, but your saren one was infinately better www.youtube.com/watch

[Ikikata]

Nathos wrote...

WHY THIS WAS CUT FROM THE GAME???????

Yep, saw that ealier aswell and I don't get why cutting good stuff like that. If Shepard didn't have a romance in ME3 then just have the dialogue that is now, but if he has a romance it'd add that dialogue.

I found the original moment very moving when I first saw it, but compared to this, it's baaaad

[Nyila]

Nathos wrote...

WHY THIS WAS CUT FROM THE GAME???????

That smells DLC. There were audio files of the Shadow Broker DLC and the Kasumi DLC in ME2.