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[andy310]

MrPuschel wrote...

 
Interesting Informations about the plot and its writers:
http://www.ign.com/b...lers.250066288/

This is interesting, although it still leaves problems with closure, at least with what is given to us. But overall at least there were two spearate and different endings, not saying that this is much better as a whole because it doesnt seem to exactly fit all that well either, but hey its a start.

[S.Homen]

Amazing how the game can be so extraordinary all throughout only to come to massive underwhelming conclusion. BioWare went to so many lengths to answer questions and tie up loose ends from previous games from the people you meet and the companions you play with only to create a mountain of more loose ends because of the dismal ME3 ending.

[Ikikata]

alkestis wrote...

Our Shepards have been through hell and back.. with Garrus having our back the entire way. A happy ending, even somewhat sad given hard choices (if you chose to destroy EDI and the geth along with the effing reapers) would've been cartharsis.

Actually, I think EDI shouldnt really die from that, isn't she still connected to the Normandy? So we'd have been able to save herself, even then I don't really think her body was synthetic rather than high-tech mech?
Joker didn't really look like he just had lost EDI either after he came out. I don't think she comes out at the end if you chose to control the Reapers, only if you chose Synthesis, as a way to show the new symiotic way man and machine can live together.

But yea, I shed a tear for the Geth that I had finally freed, and given real personalities, however in the end I wanted my Shepard to live so I couldn't do anything.

[DoodleMG]

I think the issue, as stated many times before, is that Shepard is written as as a stubborn Renegade/Paragon that doesn't give in to any kind of terrorism. Shepard, as a Paragon, always finds another way and preaches this. Renegade Shepard stands for what he/she fights for ONLY, and doesn't compromise.

None of these endings live up to the character's writing. Paragon Shepard would find a way to save everyone, even sacrificing him/herself to do so, but not if that meant the destruction of everything fought for. Renegade Shepard would destroy the Reapers at all cost, making the Destruction Ending plausible, since his/her own fleets would be expendable in the cause.

As for the Normandy. Everyone has already said: "W.T.F?" Players would rather end the game with their LI at their side, perishing with them, then have them land on a planet where they'd most likely die due to incompatible ecosystems.

Besides: If Grunt can survive what he did: Shepard can sure as hell survive pressing a button while mortally wounded. That's what medi-gel is for!

Remember: This is a work of FICTION. We enjoy it as Fiction and escapism. Keep your "realistic idealism" that all your choices make very little difference to yourself.

As is, I'm not going to be purchasing any further Bioware products in the future. I purchase them for choice and Roleplaying enjoyment, as I'm afraid: Other companies produce better shooters of greater linear cinematic quality.

Modifié par DoodleMG, 11 mars 2012 - 08:59 .

[snekadid]

Im surprised this game wasn't made by black isle with how much this ending feels like KOTOR 2, rushed, poorly stitched and effectively ruining an otherwise perfect experience.

[TamiBx]

VerdantSF wrote...

dschenkel wrote...

My Shepard died for nothing.

All the work we did over three games, all the people we helped, all the people we killed, just to destroy galactic civilization slightly less completely than if we had done nothing at all. I have never played a video game where the protagonist fails so utterly at what they were trying to achieve.

I don't even want an alternate ending anymore. What I want is when Liara is talking about flying away to our own corner of space to take her up on it. The galaxy can die without me.

That's how I feel, too.  Listen to this.  Don't worry, it's not a Rick Roll, I promise: 
 

Best ME credits ever. So perfect 

Honestly, I will be traumatized by this forever. If Bioware doesn't fix this ending, I will forever think that their next game will have a horrible ending too. Can't wait to see what they will do with DA...

[Flammenpanzer]

S.Homen wrote...

Amazing how the game can be so extraordinary all throughout only to come to massive underwhelming conclusion. BioWare went to so many lengths to answer questions and tie up loose ends from previous games from the people you meet and the companions you play with only to create a mountain of more loose ends because of the dismal ME3 ending.

I know
I felt bad enough that I actually created my own ending, and disregarded what Bioware did. Hmpf.

Modifié par Flammenpanzer, 11 mars 2012 - 08:59 .

[MrPuschel]

Ikikata wrote...

By the way, is the secret ending that Shepard survives, or is there some secret ending that no one has uploaded where you need to complete a NG+ ?

There is NO secret ending. If you have 4000+ points AND save anderson. Shep survives. If you have 5000+ points AND/OR Anderson dies, shep survives.

But that means you get a 5 sec cutscene where shepard is on the eart (space magic again) and moves for a second before the clip ends.

[xistfirat]

Sterenn wrote...

xistfirat wrote...

definately disagree with anybody who wishes a happier ending. yes, the endings are dark, perhaps too dark but the main problem with these are not them being dark, it's them being too dumb. would you be satisfied if they had the same ending by somehow getting shepard to normandy crashing and letting him live happily ever after ? that's not what i want. i demand a logical, fitting conclusion. it could be much darker than this, i'd still be happy with that. just give the fitting conclusion this series deserves.

I would be happier because it was coherent with my Shepard's story. We definitely could have the choice. Sacrifice or not. Happy (nuanced of course, it's war after all) end or not. Dark end or not.

ofcource there could be a happy ending, hell i'd love a happy ending as well. what i mean is though is that it's not the issue with the ending. we shouldn't be telling bioware that their ending was too dark, we should tell them that their ending was too dumb. the main problem with the ending was the silliness of it.

[TSC_1]

I still can't for the life of me understand why only the ending was terribly written. I'd expect the entire game to be either good or bad... not this. I mean, the bulk of the game was incredible.

[Nyila]

DoodleMG wrote...

As for the Normandy. Everyone has already said: "W.T.F?" Players would rather end the game with their LI at their side, perishing with them, then have them land on a planet where they'd most likely die due to incompatible ecosystems.

Joker becomes like Jacob's dad in ME2 and creates a colony of crazy cave-men.

[detolicious.com]

I'd much rather take that arrow to the knee than going through that ending again.

For such a solid game that had/has people world-wide bound to their computers and consoles because of the epic story and truly amazing character development it makes a lot of mistakes in the last part of the game. It almost feels like it was rushed, there are too many logic holes and too many questions left unanswered. It doesn't feel like Bioware, these are rookie mistakes and not stuff that happens to a seasoned team.

I'm disappointed... there is not much left to say, except for pointing out the plot holes and hope for a '... and then you wake up' DLC instead of that 'Nightmare on Docking Bay D24' ending which is being force-fed to a generally supporting community.

[MzAdventure]

OP...

Mordin, Thane, Legion - their deaths were bittersweet

that unforgivable ending wasn't bittersweet, it was just plain bitter.

[Goodwood]

Lilla Snorkan wrote...

God i hate that popup "Commander Shepard has become a legend.". It might aswell say "Your catalyst is in another castle".

BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!



I don't want to live on this planet anymore.

[Ikikata]

I'm afraid we'll see some kind of DLC where if Shepard survived, will go out to this stupid planet and get his crew and LI for a real happy ending, totally ignoring all the plotholes the endings made, and how horrible they are.

For me the 2 best things that could happen would either be:

Revamp for the Earth battle + Citadel and ending, adding in Harbringer and making decent endings. (And adding in the last dialogue for Anderson)

or

Make an expansion where the hallucination/indoc theory is correct and it hopefully gives some lovely good more hours to waste and the actual real endings.

[Nathos]

nitefyre410 wrote...

TheGoddess0fWar wrote...

Nathos wrote...

WHY THIS WAS CUT FROM THE GAME???????

The tears. They wont stop. ;___;

 

*clicks link* Why was that cut from the game... WHY... 

Oh I know know ... because they added God/AI  Kid and its  dividing 0  logic. 

Oh God, why the tears don't stop? :crying:

[Lethania]

nitefyre410 wrote...

TheGoddess0fWar wrote...

Nathos wrote...

WHY THIS WAS CUT FROM THE GAME???????

The tears. They wont stop. ;___;

 

*clicks link* Why was that cut from the game... WHY... 

Oh I know know ... because they added God/AI  Kid and its  dividing 0  logic. 

But.. you already have a conversation with Andersson... it is just this conversation. But it's before the catalyst kid.

[BCMakoto]

Wait, with the Shepard beeing on Earth later.

Couldn't it be that everything beyond the beam hitting you was a vision of WHAT could happen in the worst case, and actually there is another way to doing it in a DLC. Just saying.

Shepard couldn't survive the fall from the Citadel. But he could survive the trauma and disorientation caused by a reaper beam...So...aren't chances high we get a DLC?

[Bravery1282]

spartan117 lbg wrote...

  Bioware your ending sucks

Also
I have a few questions...

When I confronted TIM for some reason I could not chose the paragon option. I completed every quest that I am aware of and chose all paragon options. Why wasn't I able to convince TIM to kill himself? I was forced to do a renegade interrupt to save myself. Anderson died though. What happens if you save Anderson?
Pics:
http://filesmelt.com/dl/TIM.png
http://filesmelt.com/dl/replevel.png

Also I had Tali with me on the Final mission where Hammer got destroyed by the reaper. They said everyone died. How the hell did Tali live and get onto the Normandy? Why was the Normandy in the middle of a jump anyway?
http://filesmelt.com/dl/tali5.png

Even if Tali did survive she wouldn't leave me to die. Tali loved me. She would never abandon me like that. WTF?

Tali wanted more time with me. Why Bioware did you have to separate us and destroy the Mass Relays on top of that? And damn it I didnt work so hard to save the Geth just to be forced to destroy them.

Bioware,
=(


P.S. All I can say is this betterr be a joke. I want a free DLC with the fix.

Just don't choose the renegade option when it pops up.  You talk him into it afterwards.

[TSC_1]

LPKerberos wrote...

Wait, with the Shepard beeing on Earth later.

Couldn't
it be that everything beyond the beam hitting you was a vision of WHAT
could happen in the worst case, and actually there is another way to
doing it in a DLC. Just saying.

Shepard couldn't survive the fall
from the Citadel. But he could survive the trauma and disorientation
caused by a reaper beam...So...aren't chances high we get a DLC?

High? No. Non-zero? Sure. The indoc theory seems the best fit for that, I'd think.

Modifié par TSC_1, 11 mars 2012 - 09:03 .

[TamiBx]

Trunks Bordare wrote...

TheGoddess0fWar wrote...

Nathos wrote...

WHY THIS WAS CUT FROM THE GAME???????

The tears. They wont stop. ;___;

Wow.  Seriously?  Why would they cut this from the game?

I refuse to watch/listen to this. This is TOO sad. Bioware, why did you do this to your fans?! I didn't even care about coming o BSN before (not for ME, at least) and now I can't leave!! Pretty sure a lot of people made accounts just to talk about the ending. I would have. 

Modifié par TamiBx, 11 mars 2012 - 09:08 .

[Ikikata]

LPKerberos wrote...

Wait, with the Shepard beeing on Earth later.

Couldn't it be that everything beyond the beam hitting you was a vision of WHAT could happen in the worst case, and actually there is another way to doing it in a DLC. Just saying.

Shepard couldn't survive the fall from the Citadel. But he could survive the trauma and disorientation caused by a reaper beam...So...aren't chances high we get a DLC?

If thats the case it's very cheap not ending the story in the actual game and forcing any fan to buy a DLC (or maybe expansion) to finish the story, it's even worse than disc locked content!!

[S.Homen]

Flammenpanzer wrote...

I know
I felt bad enough that I actually created my own ending, and disregarded what Bioware did. Hmpf.

Aye, that does indeed seem like a worthy option to take because BioWare truly disappointed with this ending--even saying that doesn't even grasp the tip of the iceberg of how I felt when the game ended. All this playing, tens of hours of incredible immersive gameplay only to simmer and then vanish before me in a cloud of fail.

Why BioWare? Why would you do this? These endings suck.

[BCMakoto]

TSC_1 wrote...

LPKerberos wrote...

Wait, with the Shepard beeing on Earth later.

Couldn't
it be that everything beyond the beam hitting you was a vision of WHAT
could happen in the worst case, and actually there is another way to
doing it in a DLC. Just saying.

Shepard couldn't survive the fall
from the Citadel. But he could survive the trauma and disorientation
caused by a reaper beam...So...aren't chances high we get a DLC?

High? No. Non-zero? Sure. The indoc theory seems the best fit for that, I'd think.

Well, seeing EA is somehow behind the game, chances are high. They always want more money...they always do. So why not present it with a DLC which people simply CANT refuse to play.

[TSC_1]

LPKerberos wrote...

TSC_1 wrote...

LPKerberos wrote...

Wait, with the Shepard beeing on Earth later.

Couldn't
it be that everything beyond the beam hitting you was a vision of WHAT
could happen in the worst case, and actually there is another way to
doing it in a DLC. Just saying.

Shepard couldn't survive the fall
from the Citadel. But he could survive the trauma and disorientation
caused by a reaper beam...So...aren't chances high we get a DLC?

High? No. Non-zero? Sure. The indoc theory seems the best fit for that, I'd think.

Well,
seeing EA is somehow behind the game, chances are high. They always
want more money...they always do. So why not present it with a DLC which
people simply CANT refuse to play.

Well, sure. But I'm keeping my hopes pretty low after this.

Modifié par TSC_1, 11 mars 2012 - 09:05 .