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So we can't get the ending we want after all?


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Drake_1000

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http://social.biowar...89361/6#9792100

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Just reposting this .. Keep writing those letters. email is too easily duplicated, but a letter comes from one place only. Show them we care..

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TobiTobsen wrote...

soske aizen wrote...

if one thing good can be said about this its gave the bsn a sense of unity


That's not good! Just look at what "unity" did for the council species! Now they all have to die together in the Sol System... IF the explosion of the mass relay didn't killed them all.

:(


My life ended when Shepards ended </3

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thormir wrote...

 Please stop saying you have ptsd from this. I do have ptsd and I guarantee you dont. 
It demeans what my brothers have sacrificed in combat to even compare PTSD and the sadness aof this plot so please stop


No no no, you misunderstand. They're not saying THEY have PTSD. Not the players. They're saying that they think the ending is Shepard dealing with PTSD. A hallucination brought on by trauma from losing so many people and then being bashed in the face with a Reaper laser.

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Anyone else feel like they ended it the way they did because they couldn't figure out a way to end it. Predicting the "rage" from the fans they must've guessed we'd come up with theories. Now all they do is put the ideas/theories we came up with into practice and charge us $10. While annoyed at first. The majority will purchase it and Bioware/EA will get a ridiculous amount of money for pissing off their fans. If they pull it off, I wont even be annoyed. I'll be impressed.

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Rothgar49

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I really want to hear something from Bioware on this. It's just, I still can't believe how bad the ending was.

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The endings have to be some sort of dream state given to Shepard by Harbinger when the screen goes white, because of how close Shepard is to possible victory, Harbinger wants to explain to Shepard what it is they (the Reapers) are doing every 50,000 years and in return how Shepard would react whether its destroy/control the reapers or synthesis. With his choice somehow affecting the next portion of the story/actual ending.

After thinking about and going over it, it is the only thing that has any sort of logic behind it. The only problem with this is that we would have to pay for the final part of the story.

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mnomaha wrote...

Our influence changed the ending for Fallout 3, but before that we held the line.
Our influence showed that Han Solo shot first, but before that we held the line.
Our influence will change the ending of the Mass Effect trilogy, and we will HOLD THE LINE!

-Carthan Shepard (adapted from Captain Kirrahe's "Hold the Line" speech on Virmire) (Thank you Nehemiah Kenny)

www.facebook.com/#!/DemandABetterEndingToMassEffect3 


No one step Backward!

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vkt62 wrote...

Best parody ever on the bad ending:


.. Never have I identified so much with Hitler. Or seen a "Hitler finds out..." video that was more appropriate.

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The best analogy I can think of is using Harry Potter. Regardless of what one thinks about the quality of the ending (I personally am a fan), it certainly was satisfying/felt like a part of the story:

******Harry Potter/Deathly Hallows Spoilers******

Imagine if Deathly Hallows had ended with Voldemort killing Harry when he faced him in the Forbidden Forest. Boom that's it. Maybe we get a little one page epilogue where some old guy is telling his kid how Harry defeated Voldemort far in the future but that's it. Sure, you had a choice to go after the Elder Wand or the Horcruxes first but apparently that choice was largely academic. Maybe by being nice to the Centuars and House Elves, or engaging in Wizards at War we get to see Harry's eyes open in Hagrid's arms but that's it, we don't even know what this means. Imagine how disappointing this would have been. The last two chapters are missing, along with the epilogue proper.

Worse still, we're missing the flashback sequence with Snape - you know, the one that ties the ending into the rest of the series. Instead, in this version, Harry goes to the clearing, possibly seeing the memories of his parents/Sirius/Lupin if he happened to make enough paragon choices during the course of the game to end up with the Resurrection Stone, to an uncertain fate. There, Voldemort informs him he will die, possibly with the Horcruxes destroyed, possibly not (meaning he's likely to return at a some later point), but we as the audience won't be seeing anything after that anyway so what's it to us?

Then he lets us choose what color spell he uses to kill us.

Cut to Ron and Hermione whizing through the Flu Network or blasting through apparition space.

And then magic never works again.

The End.

******End Harry Potter/Deathly Hallows Spoilers******

You'd better bet people would be up in arms about that.

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I've decided - I am going to replay the game, and go through ME3 with all of my eight Shepards (will probably try the Default one out too) - however, from now on I am just going to turn the game off after dealing with TIM just before the final choices and insert my own headcanon ending. Uptil that point, ME3 is the best game I have ever played, it almost transcends just being a game.

I read a review of ME3 in the review section of a newspaper in the UK today, which rightly said that the ME3 trilogy is right up there with the original Star Wars trilogy. And it truly is.

Therefore it is pretty sad that I have to turn it off before the end and imagine my own ending, but I will because I refuse to let such mind-blowingly s**t endings ruin this franchise for me. I also don't think they will ever make a DLC to fix it so this is my only avenue.

So now I still get to enjoy the game! Problem solved! :wizard:

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never posted on the forums before I loved the game except the ending. Really hope Bioware does change it

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They have further plans with this game yeah.. but that doesnt change the fact that every fan like me who have played mass effect since 1 get left with this poor ending. ( thanks for the money, now fu ) the story and crew mates are the main thing that kept me going, i am so disappointed. they may say "if u only knew what we are working on, then u would be holding on to your copy forever" well what did u expect leaving us with this crap without saying anything. no wonder so many people rage over this. now we can wait months for the next DLC, and i aint playing it again until then, but it all depends on the content.

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My topic got locked, so I'm reposting it here. Kind of thankful that someone who works for Bioware in some capacity read it.


Okay, I've basically been of the opinion that Bioware can do no wrong ever since I first played Dragon Age: Origins. I've loved story-based games for as long as I can remember and I think Bioware perfected the craft, more or less. The endings for ME3 throws that whole view away by making the story to that point not matter in the slightest.
In most Bioware games of this caliber your story choces make ALL the difference. Just think of the epilogues at the end of DA: Origins! I replayed many times so I could get everything just right, and was rewarded for my effort. ME:3 Gives you 3 options with next to no variables attached to them, and that's just not acceptable.
I've learned from some research that Drew Karpyshyn was replaced in development and a new writer did away with an ending involving the "Dark Energy" that was briefly mentioned in ME2, and had little to do with the synthetic/organic conflict reasons that were given in the finished product, which I felt was rendered invalid if you brokered a peace between the Geth and Quarians, anyway. If I had to point at a single person being responsible for making Mass Effect what it is, or rather, was, it would be Drew Karpyshyn, and I'll always be grateful to him for creating such a rich and interesting setting. I think it was his loss on this project that ultimately did the most damage, and Bioware's higher-ups second guessing his original intentions for the story after the ending script was leaked.
Bioware's has a history of welcoming input from the fans, and I have to hope that the overwhelming negativity created by these endings will lead to some kind of solution, be it DLC, a "director's cut," or something else. This franchise is too important to too many people for it to end like this, and from a sheer business standpoint, it ruins the possibility of future book titles by making stories taking place chronologically after ME3 unlikely at best.
I'd be grateful if any Bioware employees would read this. You don't necessarily need to respond, but I think this is a serious problem, and I'm genuinely unsure of how loyal a customer I'm going to be in the future because of it.

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I'm honestly confused as to where the idea is coming from that wanting a 'happy ending' is somehow less respectable than wanting a dark one.  Does it have something to do with a misconception that it's less naive to expect disaster?

Fiction is not the same thing as real life - it is fiction.  We don't expect the same things from it that we expect from real life.  If we're given a Commander Shepard who is presented as a heroic figure who literally overcomes every single obstacle placed in his path (up until the ending), it is not only reasonable to expect him to overcome the final hurdle, but it's more reasonable than expecting him to fail.  It's an agreement between the author of a fictional work and its observer, that they will present us with all the information we need to interpret the universe correctly, or else they've failed in their role.  If a situation like this arises, where it becomes apparent that this understanding has severely broken down, it indictes a failing on the part of the author.  Now, turning a world on its head might actually be deliberate/appropriate in some types of works, but let's not kid ourselves - this is a video game, and a video game that gave every indication of being a story about Big Damn Heroes.    This idea wasn't some sort of secret, it was encouraged and supported since the beginning by Bioware.  If the writers of this game intended it to be something else, they should've indicated as much and allowed people the courtesy of choosing whether they wanted to participate in a philosophical experiment.

As it stands, there was absolutely no reason not to expect the possibility of a happy, successful, overly optimistic, unreasonably positive outcome.  That's what Big Damn Heroes are for.  It's what escapist fiction is for.  And nobody, nobody should be ashamed of wanting it.

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JigPig wrote...

Obviously you guys haven't gotten the perfect ending yet.


I would have been satisfied with that ending over the 3 awful ones.

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I haven't beaten the game yet. I'm going to hold out. I have several saves I'd like to see done up to a certain point. I'll wait and see what BW will do (if anything).

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The Retake Mass Effect thread if anyone wants it.

http://social.biowar...80311/1#9790564

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Are you serious? We've grown to love and hate the characters in the Mass Effect Universe. Spent countless hours on investing towards the perfect outcome for our Shep and all these characters and now you're giving us this crap? No way...
Here's my very own ending: My Shep settles down with Tali on Rannoch, starts the Legion-Program to help with Quarian/Geth relations, goes out hunting Thresher Maws with Wrex and Grunt on Tuchanka and has a few drinks too many now and then with Garrus and Ash. F you and have a nice day...

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Sarz91

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He's talking. Just not about us

http://www.twitlonger.com/show/gcijat

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Sarz91 wrote...

He's talking. Just not about us

http://www.twitlonger.com/show/gcijat


I saw that, all that says to me is ""We are trying our best to ignore the elephant in the room, have this
 instead, you were complaining about this at some point right? this will appease you right???" 

No, it wont.

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AndrewHag wrote...

never posted on the forums before I loved the game except the ending. Really hope Bioware does change it


Thanks for your support

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Culex85 wrote...

Are you serious? We've grown to love and hate the characters in the Mass Effect Universe. Spent countless hours on investing towards the perfect outcome for our Shep and all these characters and now you're giving us this crap? No way...
Here's my very own ending: My Shep settles down with Tali on Rannoch, starts the Legion-Program to help with Quarian/Geth relations, goes out hunting Thresher Maws with Wrex and Grunt on Tuchanka and has a few drinks too many now and then with Garrus and Ash. F you and have a nice day...


Amen!!!  How about Liara returns to being shadow broker, and if she finds out that someone needs their A** kicked, she calls over her hubby, shows them the info, he calls up Ash, Wrex, Garrus or whoever isn't too busy bowling that night, and they go off take care of it and back for dinner that night. lol

Modifié par Prince Keldar, 11 mars 2012 - 11:46 .


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Eirileth

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Did anyone else notice that, when you put EDI in one of her alternate appearances (adding a uniform on) she has an unexplained ******?

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Lurchibald wrote...

Sarz91 wrote...

He's talking. Just not about us

http://www.twitlonger.com/show/gcijat


I saw that, all that says to me is ""We are trying our best to ignore the elephant in the room, have this
 instead, you were complaining about this at some point right? this will appease you right???" 

No, it wont.

xD I can't stop laughing at your comment uhauahhauhauha