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75 Pages in a DAY, I think Bioware might have to listen to us.
JUUUUUUSSSSST Sayin

Hilariously enough, if these endings turn out to be a complete hoax Bioware just got schooled in 'How to ****** Your Fanbase Off' 101. Hope they're taking notes.

O RLY? Will you care about this in two weeks if it turns out that there are "good" endings, or at least different ones? I sure won't. I'll just keep playing ME3 (rather than, you know, selling it to Gamestop like I probably will if the spoilers turn out to be true). I won't be annoyed or upset that they didn't say anything -- I'll just be ecstatic that ME3 was worth it after all.


i am not stupid or desperate enough to buy it before the price drops , or until i get confirmation on the ending one way or another.

i have spent a lot of time and money on the first two games. Bioware will get money out of me for me3 , the question is.....how much.

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So I'm staring at my GAME pre-order and can't decide if I should cancel it and set sail on the high seas instead. I just can't support this with my money. I know I'll feel dirty if I pay the £60.


Cancel and wait. That's what I'm doing. You'll lose one stupid gun.

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Nyaore wrote...

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75 Pages in a DAY, I think Bioware might have to listen to us.
JUUUUUUSSSSST Sayin

Hilariously enough, if these endings turn out to be a complete hoax Bioware just got schooled in 'How to ****** Your Fanbase Off' 101. Hope they're taking notes.


There are times when BW is top notch when it comes to addressing concerns.  The help I got when having issues getting early access to the MP ME3 demo was greatly appreciated.   I was practically jumping for joy as I was so eager to play.

Then there are the times the blackout on info if only to put concerns to rest is very perplexing.  I'll never forget the baffling silence regarding the ME1 DLC that involved a arena (Pinnacle Station).  I was somewhat irked that the first DLC (Bring Down the Sky) had to be played prior to going to Ilos during the game but it came out so soon after ME1 was released that I was still doing marathon runs so it wasn't a huge issue.  It took a while longer (roughly a year and a half IIRC) for Pinnacle Station to be released and I was hoping beyond hope that it could somehow be played after finishing the game.  I asked repeatedly for that info and that info only and never got an answer.  I had several playthroughs just hovering over Ilos waiting and I finally said screw it, finished them and boycotted the DLC (which as it turned out wasn't well received anyways so no major loss I guess).  Given my near fanatical fandom for this game that's saying a lot for me to deliberately boycott gameplay content but I was determined to make my voice heard with my wallet if I wasn't to be heard with my voice (or typing as it were).  I'm by no means seriously or remotely considering "pre-order cancelled" as I'm not sure what to make of these "leaks" and I figure my Sheps story is his/her own for me to explore with each play through.

As the saying goes, "Life is a journey, not a destination."

So yeah, very much a love/hate thing with me when it comes to BW and their handling of fans and information releases.  Heh.

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RolandX9 wrote...

Nyaore wrote...

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75 Pages in a DAY, I think Bioware might have to listen to us.
JUUUUUUSSSSST Sayin

Hilariously enough, if these endings turn out to be a complete hoax Bioware just got schooled in 'How to ****** Your Fanbase Off' 101. Hope they're taking notes.

O RLY? Will you care about this in two weeks if it turns out that there are "good" endings, or at least different ones? I sure won't. I'll just keep playing ME3 (rather than, you know, selling it to Gamestop like I probably will if the spoilers turn out to be true). I won't be annoyed or upset that they didn't say anything -- I'll just be ecstatic that ME3 was worth it after all.

Eh? I'm just commenting that it's funny that if these endings prove unfounded, the community has pretty much just handed Bioware a checklist on what they expect from endings in future games. That's all. Found it amusing, but then again I have a warped sense of humor.

Modifié par Nyaore, 29 février 2012 - 07:20 .


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Yakko77 wrote...

Nyaore wrote...

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75 Pages in a DAY, I think Bioware might have to listen to us.
JUUUUUUSSSSST Sayin

Hilariously enough, if these endings turn out to be a complete hoax Bioware just got schooled in 'How to ****** Your Fanbase Off' 101. Hope they're taking notes.


There are times when BW is top notch when it comes to addressing concerns.  The help I got when having issues getting early access to the MP ME3 demo was greatly appreciated.   I was practically jumping for joy as I was so eager to play.

Then there are the times the blackout on info if only to put concerns to rest is very perplexing.  I'll never forget the baffling silence regarding the ME1 DLC that involved a arena (Pinnacle Station).  I was somewhat irked that the first DLC (Bring Down the Sky) had to be played prior to going to Ilos during the game but it came out so soon after ME1 was released that I was still doing marathon runs so it wasn't a huge issue.  It took a while longer (roughly a year and a half IIRC) for Pinnacle Station to be released and I was hoping beyond hope that it could somehow be played after finishing the game.  I asked repeatedly for that info and that info only and never got an answer.  I had several playthroughs just hovering over Ilos waiting and I finally said screw it, finished them and boycotted the DLC (which as it turned out wasn't well received anyways so no major loss I guess).  Given my near fanatical fandom for this game that's saying a lot for me to deliberately boycott gameplay content but I was determined to make my voice heard with my wallet if I wasn't to be heard with my voice (or typing as it were).  I'm by no means seriously or remotely considering "pre-order cancelled" as I'm not sure what to make of these "leaks" and I figure my Sheps story is his/her own for me to explore with each play through.

As the saying goes, "Life is a journey, not a destination."

So yeah, very much a love/hate thing with me when it comes to BW and their handling of fans and information releases.  Heh.


life is indeed a journey. but you just don't get very far if you dont have a spacific destination in mind. They go hand in hand. you can not discount one , in favor of the other.

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Fdingo wrote...

So I'm staring at my GAME pre-order and can't decide if I should cancel it and set sail on the high seas instead. I just can't support this with my money. I know I'll feel dirty if I pay the £60.


Go ahead and cancel. It's not like hearsay can be false, right? :blink:

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Fdingo wrote...

So I'm staring at my GAME pre-order and can't decide if I should cancel it and set sail on the high seas instead. I just can't support this with my money. I know I'll feel dirty if I pay the £60.


Go ahead and cancel. It's not like hearsay can be false, right? :blink:


It doesn't matter if he cancels. It's one gun.

Plus, in 2 weeks, it will be under $30.

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Fdingo wrote...

So I'm staring at my GAME pre-order and can't decide if I should cancel it and set sail on the high seas instead. I just can't support this with my money. I know I'll feel dirty if I pay the £60.

Consider it this way - if the choice of three downer endings is all we get, would you be left regretting your investment? Are the pre-order bonuses you're looking at worth the risk? I don't think they are. I've cancelled my pre-order. If this rumor turns out to be false, I'm out one shotgun and one assault rifle (being as my canon playthrough is as an Infiltrator, I'm not out much. Squaddie weapons.). I'll happily reinstate my order if I'm proven wrong.

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Unit-Alpha wrote...

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Fdingo wrote...

So I'm staring at my GAME pre-order and can't decide if I should cancel it and set sail on the high seas instead. I just can't support this with my money. I know I'll feel dirty if I pay the £60.


Go ahead and cancel. It's not like hearsay can be false, right? :blink:


It doesn't matter if he cancels. It's one gun.

Plus, in 2 weeks, it will be under $30.


Well that is just patently false. Say what you will about the game, its still going to sell well enough that the pre-owned price is going to stay above $50 for quite some time. 

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Unit-Alpha wrote...

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2 of Bioware's goals:
1- Make Money
2- Create a story that brings out the emotions of it's players
So if you buy the game and you are angry or pleased with any of the endings, guess what...
Mission Accomplished.

Not a good idea to burn a fan base. It will make people wait instead of pre-ordering or it can drive fans away in droves. Both of these = NO money = mad share holders = someone getting fired.


Guess who the primary audience for SWTOR is? Come on, guess!

If you chose ME players, you're right!

Guess what happens when you ****** off a lot of hardcore gamers that much?

They quit paying for your games!

Guess what happens when SWTOR can't make sales quotas to make up for the $300 million spent?

A lot of Bioware employees get the boot. Three years later, the studio gets the Pandemic treatment.

Well said buddy, well said. If Bioware ends up having another DA2 with ME3 I bet you'll read about some major heads rolling. a pissed off fan base is nothing to &^%$ with. Just look at bethesda's furom with the PS3 skyrim. The fans are still raging on that POS.If these rumors on ending are true, Bioware better get a DLC fix quick to stem the tide of rage that is going to come from the fan base. :whistle: 

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 Everything I've read so far about the endings just doesn't jive with stuff like this.

Mass Effect 3's various endgame scenarios will remember choices made throughout a gamer's entire trilogy play-through to make them the most complex and varied in the series so far.

Asked by GI if Mass Effect 3's ending was as complex as ME2, the series' executive producer Casey Hudson said: "Yeah, and I’d say much more so, because we have the ability to build the endings out in a way that we don’t have to worry about eventually tying them back together somewhere. This story arc is coming to an end with this game. That means the endings can be a lot more different."

Hudson added that Mass Effect 3's conclusion will reflect decisions made from "who lives and who dies, civilizations that rose and fell, all the way down to individual characters."

"That becomes the state of where you left your galaxy. The endings have a lot more sophistication and variety in them," Hudson explained.

The developer also confirmed that Mass Effect 3 would receive story DLC similar to that seen in Mass Effect 2 which added missions to conquer ahead of the game's conclusion.


:huh: I don't get it.

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Kids still ****ing they didn't get their childish, wish fulfillment, ****** fantasy?

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I was prepared to be forced to see Shepard have to make the ultimate sacrifice to save the galaxy. I wouldn't have liked it but I was prepared for it. I was even prepared to see the Normandy and crew die, or Earth be a devastated ruin. I wasn't prepared for what they did to the galactic civilization.


The ending makes me feel like everything Shepard and co. did, all they sacrificed, was for nothing. These endings don't count as victory. It's just trading one horrible fate (the Reapers) for another one (the collapse of civilization)


It made so much more sense back when "destroy the Reapers" was the only decision that collapsed galactic civilization, making "control the Reapers" and "merge with technology" much more worthy of consideration. If they wanted a bittersweet ending, they should have just had Shepard die (or replace the Guardian) in every possible outcome no matter what, but left the wrecked mess of galactic civilization intact. It's still bittersweet, because the player character can't save both the world and himself, but still palatable, since one of them (the world) was saveable.

In my opinon, the best endings are dark and bleak, but with a glint of hope for the future, but completely dark and bleak endings are some of the worst.

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casedawgz wrote...

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Fdingo wrote...

So I'm staring at my GAME pre-order and can't decide if I should cancel it and set sail on the high seas instead. I just can't support this with my money. I know I'll feel dirty if I pay the £60.


Go ahead and cancel. It's not like hearsay can be false, right? :blink:


It doesn't matter if he cancels. It's one gun.

Plus, in 2 weeks, it will be under $30.


Well that is just patently false. Say what you will about the game, its still going to sell well enough that the pre-owned price is going to stay above $50 for quite some time. 


Right, because games that have zero replayability and ****** off their fans sure sell like hotcakes! And no one will be looking to trade in!

Think rational. They finish, they trade in immediately.

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I don't know why we are fans anymore if all they do to us is lie through their teeth.

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Unit-Alpha wrote...

Swords and Lasers wrote...

Fdingo wrote...

So I'm staring at my GAME pre-order and can't decide if I should cancel it and set sail on the high seas instead. I just can't support this with my money. I know I'll feel dirty if I pay the £60.


Go ahead and cancel. It's not like hearsay can be false, right? :blink:


It doesn't matter if he cancels. It's one gun.

Plus, in 2 weeks, it will be under $30.


If the ending is what some are claiming it is then it will be bargain basement by mid-summer or winter. ME collection special for $19.99 for all 3 or something to that effect.

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xtorma wrote...

life is indeed a journey. but you just don't get very far if you dont have a spacific destination in mind. They go hand in hand. you can not discount one , in favor of the other.


True but just how sure are we about this destination?  Is it real or a false blip on the radar so-to-speak?

These leaks have been confirmed and verified by just how many sources exactly?

I'm still not even sure how seriously to take them.  They may be true and I am somewhat concerned but I tend to play completionist anyways and intend to have as many war assets as possible for the best possible ending.

We'll find out in a week I guess.

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 Everything I've read so far about the endings just doesn't jive with stuff like this.

Mass Effect 3's various endgame scenarios will remember choices made throughout a gamer's entire trilogy play-through to make them the most complex and varied in the series so far.

Asked by GI if Mass Effect 3's ending was as complex as ME2, the series' executive producer Casey Hudson said: "Yeah, and I’d say much more so, because we have the ability to build the endings out in a way that we don’t have to worry about eventually tying them back together somewhere. This story arc is coming to an end with this game. That means the endings can be a lot more different."

Hudson added that Mass Effect 3's conclusion will reflect decisions made from "who lives and who dies, civilizations that rose and fell, all the way down to individual characters."

"That becomes the state of where you left your galaxy. The endings have a lot more sophistication and variety in them," Hudson explained.

The developer also confirmed that Mass Effect 3 would receive story DLC similar to that seen in Mass Effect 2 which added missions to conquer ahead of the game's conclusion.


:huh: I don't get it.


They are blatantly lying. No way around it. This is fast becoming the Enron of gaming.

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I think stranding shep and crew on an uninhabited planet is extreme, but makes sense that to be free of a the reapers, they have to break the chains (most of the ways the races are technologically powerful was due to Reaper tech) humans and other races paid the price for advancement by the "Reaping". They decide no Reaping, no tech. Fair trade.... But still total isolation is a bit far

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Okay, BSN. Long time listener, first time caller.

I'm not sure what to think. Part of me wants to think that this is the most epic troll in the world, and someone decided that it would be hilarious to just post a bunch of info out of context. I, honestly, would have done that because I'm a sick bastard.

On the other hand, I realize that the bulk of the writing for this franchise is very well done. And maybe the journey will be worth the ending... if that makes any sense.

Like a lot of people here, I'd like to at least see my Shepard go on to live with his/her LI, perhaps even in a broken world with no sunset to run into.

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GodWood wrote...

Kids still ****ing they didn't get their childish, wish fulfillment, ****** fantasy?


What makes it so ridiculous is that the information they're *****ing about hasn't been proven.

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Nyaore wrote...

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Hilariously enough, if these endings turn out to be a complete hoax Bioware just got schooled in 'How to ****** Your Fanbase Off' 101. Hope they're taking notes.

O RLY? Will you care about this in two weeks if it turns out that there are "good" endings, or at least different ones? I sure won't. I'll just keep playing ME3 (rather than, you know, selling it to Gamestop like I probably will if the spoilers turn out to be true). I won't be annoyed or upset that they didn't say anything -- I'll just be ecstatic that ME3 was worth it after all.

Eh? I'm just commenting that it's funny that if these endings prove unfounded, the community has pretty much just handed Bioware a checklist on what they expect from endings in future games. That's all. Found it amusing, but then again I have a warped sense of humor.

Ah. NVM, then. I seriously doubt Bioware did this on purpose, but it might well behoove them to just sit back and wait on this. It's not like the all of five PRE-ORDER CANCELLED! responses here will hurt them any. EA seems be actually doing a decent job of marketing the sh*t out of this (for once). Frankly, I'll be stunned if the ending is that made of fail in the "perfect entry point" to what EA obviously wants to become a cash cow franchise.

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Okay, BSN. Long time listener, first time caller.

I'm not sure what to think. Part of me wants to think that this is the most epic troll in the world, and someone decided that it would be hilarious to just post a bunch of info out of context. I, honestly, would have done that because I'm a sick bastard.

On the other hand, I realize that the bulk of the writing for this franchise is very well done. And maybe the journey will be worth the ending... if that makes any sense.

Like a lot of people here, I'd like to at least see my Shepard go on to live with his/her LI, perhaps even in a broken world with no sunset to run into.


I would take that in a heartbeat. But they won't even give us that.

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I honestly think DA 2's fiasco will be a walk in the walk compared to the fallout that this game will receive. Everyone in denial are just kidding themselves.

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I sorta get what he's saying, but I disagree with it. There's certainly something to be said for innovation and breaking of formula, but its not what I want from this game. If you want something stylistically ambitious and depressing, there are numerous beautiful indy games to play. Bioware games, to me, are the gaming equivalent of comfort food. I want to ride off into the sunset with my love interest and my homies, satisfied by a job well done. If I want a game to challenge me on an intellectual level, I look for it somewhere else. Bioware is supposed to be my summer blockbuster.


Very well said...