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[PhoenixDove1]

Just wanted to repost this youtube video, hilarious and so true!

[Sywen]

I'll do my part so this doesn't die down.

[PhoenixDove1]

PhoenixDove1 wrote...

Just wanted to repost this youtube video, hilarious and so true!

Forgot to note, I did not do this, it was on a post several pages back.

[GuyWithFace]

Annaleah wrote...

Eirileth wrote...

OMG!! I DID SEE A CHANGE!!! After my hard work, instead of dying to the Harvester, Cortez managed to land safely!!

A small change, but a change nonetheless.

Wait how did you get that to happen? o__o

It happened for me on my first playthrough. Cortez doesn't die, but his shuttle is shot down and he says he won't be able to help Shepard anymore with his damage shuttle.

[ArmyKnifeX]

rekkoi wrote...

Been out of the loop for a few hours. Any words or news from anyone in Bioware?

Jessica Merizan posted in a "commiserating" group formed on the BSN that she's going to do a live stream / Q&A. The biggest problems I have with her reply and what she's said thus far are as follows:

1. She likes ( or at least cannot publicly dislike) the ending. (Because let's face it, to make that plural would require things to be different between each of the choices).
2. The entire point of the Q&A will be how to interpret the ending, not what we disliked about it.

I do NOT want to "interpret" this ending any more than I want to interpret the ending of Battlestar Galactica. BSG had a terrible ending, but it didn't ruin the first couple of seasons for me because I had no hand in crafting that story. I had a huge part in crafting this story of my Shepard. He was meticulous, and made sure he looked at every angle, and pursued the right thing to do regardless of the cost it took on himself. 

On a tangentially related note...

I had someone on Facebook talk to me about the ending, by the way, to the point where it upset me so much I couldn't go to sleep last night. Part of the reason for my being so upset is because he shifted the argument every couple of lines when I brought up a good point, but some of the things he said were downright insulting. I'd just like to point out that we fans have a right to criticize the writers, regardless of whether or not we are writers ourselves professionally. You don't need to be a magician to recognize a good magic trick, nor do you need to be a good storyteller to recognize a good story. This finale was terrible storytelling because it turned ME3 from an internally consistent universe with rules and ways things are supposed to behave into a magic anything-can-happy "a wizard did it" universe. What's worse is we were promised something entirely different. We were told there was a plan from the beginning and hey, it turns out there wasn't any plan - at least none that the wriers for ME3 stuck to.

For what it's worth, the Skeptic's Guide ot the Universe podcast for this week had an incredibly poignant interview with an author that covered exactly the reasons why we're so upset, and cited a few examples that've already been cited here.

[Rosery99]

Sywen wrote...

I'll do my part so this doesn't die down.

Good. Direct people here, talk about the endings, voice your opinion on what you want to see happen with them, anything to get our message across in a polite and civil manner.

[ARCTIC EAGLE]

Good if we don't let it die down then it'll show our resolve, maybe we can force Bioware into doing something. Keep up the fight ladies and gentlemen

[WvStolzing]

But after all the **** he's been through, my Shepard deserves to LIVE with his CREW AND LOVE INTEREST. I really wasn't expecting it to work out that way, but I can't help but be incredibly disappointed. I understand the emphasis of the importance of sacrifice etc, but it just felt wrong.

It's broken. It's broken and I'm upset. Please fix it. I want the choice back.

EDIT: I would also like to add that in spite of this rage, Mass Effect 3 is the best game I have ever played in my life. It far outranks my favourite ever game, and is the first ever game to do so.

Same here. But do check out the 'was the ending a hallucination?' thread. Some really interesting speculation going on in there; actually kindled a tiny glimmer of hope in me.

[Annaleah]

PhoenixDove1 wrote...

PhoenixDove1 wrote...

Just wanted to repost this youtube video, hilarious and so true!

Forgot to note, I did not do this, it was on a post several pages back.

We need to make a thread that just links all the funny video's that have been produced about the endings... that way we don't need to keep reposting them.

Modifié par Annaleah, 12 mars 2012 - 01:28 .

[Eirileth]

Annaleah wrote...

Eirileth wrote...

OMG!! I DID SEE A CHANGE!!! After my hard work, instead of dying to the Harvester, Cortez managed to land safely!!

A small change, but a change nonetheless.

Wait how did you get that to happen? o__o

I don't know. I got my galactic readiness up to 100% and got my WA up to over 6k. And then I ran into him once on the Citadel by the memorial wall in the holding area and was supportive. Then I came here and tried this stuff again... And he survived. On my frist play through of this area, he died.

[Grosfat]

PhoenixDove1 wrote...

Just wanted to repost this youtube video, hilarious and so true!

Hitler is right!!

[Rosery99]

ArmyKnifeX wrote...

rekkoi wrote...

Been out of the loop for a few hours. Any words or news from anyone in Bioware?

Jessica Merizan posted in a "commiserating" group formed on the BSN that she's going to do a live stream / Q&A. The biggest problems I have with her reply and what she's said thus far are as follows:

1. She likes ( or at least cannot publicly dislike) the ending. (Because let's face it, to make that plural would require things to be different between each of the choices).
2. The entire point of the Q&A will be how to interpret the ending, not what we disliked about it.

I do NOT want to "interpret" this ending any more than I want to interpret the ending of Battlestar Galactica. BSG had a terrible ending, but it didn't ruin the first couple of seasons for me because I had no hand in crafting that story. I had a huge part in crafting this story of my Shepard. He was meticulous, and made sure he looked at every angle, and pursued the right thing to do regardless of the cost it took on himself. 

On a tangentially related note...

I had someone on Facebook talk to me about the ending, by the way, to the point where it upset me so much I couldn't go to sleep last night. Part of the reason for my being so upset is because he shifted the argument every couple of lines when I brought up a good point, but some of the things he said were downright insulting. I'd just like to point out that we fans have a right to criticize the writers, regardless of whether or not we are writers ourselves professionally. You don't need to be a magician to recognize a good magic trick, nor do you need to be a good storyteller to recognize a good story. This finale was terrible storytelling because it turned ME3 from an internally consistent universe with rules and ways things are supposed to behave into a magic anything-can-happy "a wizard did it" universe. What's worse is we were promised something entirely different. We were told there was a plan from the beginning and hey, it turns out there wasn't any plan - at least none that the wriers for ME3 stuck to.

For what it's worth, the Skeptic's Guide ot the Universe podcast for this week had an incredibly poignant interview with an author that covered exactly the reasons why we're so upset, and cited a few examples that've already been cited here.

She's little more than a PR spin master, she's trying to get our righteous rage to die down and so that we will "Admit" that the endings are good and we just misinterpeted them, but she is wrong and she can't get us to do it and back off. The endings are horrible and leave us feeling emotionally drained and depressed, I for one can now never play the triliogy again because theres no point.

[Gnarlesee]

You guys are just mad because shephard dies. Allthough the endings are extremely laze made, almost identical cinematics.

[Annaleah]

Ignore this too... I cant seem to get my head together

Modifié par Annaleah, 12 mars 2012 - 01:28 .

[Eirileth]

WTF DISC IS UNREADABLE ERROR!? NO!! NOOO!!!

[Annaleah]

welp I hit quote instead of edit post... ignore this

[Mistrallru]

Russian inform agency about us
http://lenta.ru/news.../11/masseffect/

[Kloborgg711]

Gnarlesee wrote...

You guys are just mad because shephard dies. Allthough the endings are extremely laze made, almost identical cinematics.

At least no one can say you lack self-confidence, telling thousands of people that they're just mad for a reason you make up. Some of us ARE mad that Shepard dies in every single ending, but that's FAR from the only reason.

[IndelibleJester]

Gnarlesee wrote...

You guys are just mad because shephard dies. Allthough the endings are extremely laze made, almost identical cinematics.

This has been addressed before. Most of us were prepared for Shepard to die (though I'm sure having the option to live wouldn't be bad). Where we are mad about is that there is no closure or choices in a game built on choices and promised closure.

Modifié par IndelibleJester, 12 mars 2012 - 01:29 .

[Eirileth]

I just discovered... You have to play MP every so often to keep your Galactic Readiness at 100%... It doesn't just stay there.

[Tiikay_]

Rosery99 wrote...

ArmyKnifeX wrote...

rekkoi wrote...

Been out of the loop for a few hours. Any words or news from anyone in Bioware?

Jessica Merizan posted in a "commiserating" group formed on the BSN that she's going to do a live stream / Q&A. The biggest problems I have with her reply and what she's said thus far are as follows:

1. She likes ( or at least cannot publicly dislike) the ending. (Because let's face it, to make that plural would require things to be different between each of the choices).
2. The entire point of the Q&A will be how to interpret the ending, not what we disliked about it.

I do NOT want to "interpret" this ending any more than I want to interpret the ending of Battlestar Galactica. BSG had a terrible ending, but it didn't ruin the first couple of seasons for me because I had no hand in crafting that story. I had a huge part in crafting this story of my Shepard. He was meticulous, and made sure he looked at every angle, and pursued the right thing to do regardless of the cost it took on himself. 

On a tangentially related note...

I had someone on Facebook talk to me about the ending, by the way, to the point where it upset me so much I couldn't go to sleep last night. Part of the reason for my being so upset is because he shifted the argument every couple of lines when I brought up a good point, but some of the things he said were downright insulting. I'd just like to point out that we fans have a right to criticize the writers, regardless of whether or not we are writers ourselves professionally. You don't need to be a magician to recognize a good magic trick, nor do you need to be a good storyteller to recognize a good story. This finale was terrible storytelling because it turned ME3 from an internally consistent universe with rules and ways things are supposed to behave into a magic anything-can-happy "a wizard did it" universe. What's worse is we were promised something entirely different. We were told there was a plan from the beginning and hey, it turns out there wasn't any plan - at least none that the wriers for ME3 stuck to.

For what it's worth, the Skeptic's Guide ot the Universe podcast for this week had an incredibly poignant interview with an author that covered exactly the reasons why we're so upset, and cited a few examples that've already been cited here.

She's little more than a PR spin master, she's trying to get our righteous rage to die down and so that we will "Admit" that the endings are good and we just misinterpeted them, but she is wrong and she can't get us to do it and back off. The endings are horrible and leave us feeling emotionally drained and depressed, I for one can now never play the triliogy again because theres no point.

Pffft, Waiting until we 'admit' the endings were good.  The Matrix Trilogy ended how many years ago? I have yet to admit that -that- trilogy ended on a good note... so I don't see myself admitting the ending for Mass Effect 3 was satisfying anytime sooooooon. 

[Annaleah]

Kloborgg711 wrote...

Gnarlesee wrote...

You guys are just mad because shephard dies. Allthough the endings are extremely laze made, almost identical cinematics.

At least no one can say you lack self-confidence, telling thousands of people that they're just mad for a reason you make up. Some of us ARE mad that Shepard dies in every single ending, but that's FAR from the only reason.

My Shepard didn't die and I'm still mad. What does that mean?

[Graywolf633]

Kitten Tactics, I completely agree. I was planning on importing several of my Shepards into ME3 this weekend, but now that I've beaten it once, I have utterly no motivation to play it again. And why should I when I know that everyone is going to die / starve in the end anyway? Here's to hoping for a redeeming DLC.

[WvStolzing]

PhoenixDove1 wrote...

Just wanted to repost this youtube video, hilarious and so true!

That has to be the best implementation there exists of this scene!

[ExileArin]

One thing that I don't understand is how the majority of the people who like the ending just belittle anyone who didn't. I like Dragon Age 2, but that doesn't mean I didn't understand people who were upset with it. So even if someone liked the ending, or thought it was satisfactory, why are we automatically idiots for being upset about it?