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[Computim]

Alamandorious wrote...

Ok...this is freaky...very freaky.

When the background throb starts in 1:39 of this video, I can feel my chair and body vibrating.

When it stops, the vibration stops. I am wearing headphones, and my volume via the windows slider is virtually non-existent.

Just how much of a psychological impact is this game having on me if even just this little bit of sound causes a physiological reaction in me?

Further proof of the awesomeness that was this game up until the ending.

Reaper Indoctrination.  Should have been listed on the box as a possible side effect

[laughing sherpa girl]

Kitten Tactics wrote...

PhoenixDove1 wrote...

I would like help with one thing, how to I add those tags at the bottom of my post? So i can include the poll and the retake ME endings and all the other ones?

Profile -> Forum Settings

If you have firefox:
right click on the image and select "Import Element", then go into Profile->forum settings->signature and right click on the blank text box and select "Import Element " . At least, that worked for me..

[Marah_Fayne]

Need to add my voice.

Just finished the game, came here to read the forums (have stayed away since the first advanced copies came out), to see if others felt like I do, and they do.

In short, the ending of ME3 ruined the entire series for me. I played both ME1 and ME2 many times over, but I will never play them again, knowing what comes. I feel betrayed, let down...I feel like I've wasted so many hours of my life that I desparately want back now. It's truly a horrible feeling.

Cover your ears kids; Bioware, f...



EDIT: Can somebody explain to me how Garrus and Liara, who were with me on that final run to the beam, ended up on the Normandy when the Crucible fired?

Modifié par Marah_Fayne, 12 mars 2012 - 02:32 .

[revaew]

i feel as if something is wrong with me. since ive finished the game, ive sat here and read this thread. ive gone to work and just thought about this thread and thought about the suckish ending. ive also walked my dogs. but mostly ive read this thread. then i wait like a minute and refresh....

[Yaldo]

Feel I need to add my voice as well. I had prepared a few new sheps to start me3 with since losing most of my me1 playthroughs in a computer crash. And I was planning to start a whole lot more from the beginning of me1 after finishing me3, though you probably suspect how that panned out, not really feeling any motivation to play through it all again to end up with blue space-baby-jesus demanding I choose from 3 unacceptable options because of no reason what so ever.

Up until the end I was enjoying the game immensely, quite possibly the most enjoyably gaming experience I've had in a fair few years, continuing the emotional investment from the earlier games and adding to it, I was tearing up when Mordin sacrificed himself "Because someone else might get it wrong". I actually cared about Thane, who I found to be a bit bland and cliche in me2, Liara's timecapsule for future cycles had me sobbing. My up to that point pretty much pure paragon Fshep had to punch admiral Gerrel and throw him of my ship because I was that angry with him after returning from the geth dreadnought.

Being as we are what Terry Pratchett refers to as Pan narrans, the storytelling chimpanzee, we place a lot of weight on stories, even more so when we are as invested in them as you get after spending more than a hundred hours shaping the story with your own decisions. I suspect this is part of why it hurt so badly to have all those decisions stripped away and reduced to red/blue/green, oh and by the way the galaxy you fought to save is completely altered, and the people you care about are stranded somewhere for no apparent reason.

tl:dr like so many before me, loved the game up until the end, which soured the entire me experience.

Modifié par Yaldo, 12 mars 2012 - 02:35 .

[jbauck]

There's only one explanation that makes any sense to me, because one of the things that's been bugging the crap out of me since I finished this game is that it boggles the mind that BW didn't know this sucks.

So: somewhere in the fine print of their swtor development contract, they agreed to not make ME a better epic space opera than Star Wars ... and the only way they could do that was eff up the ending this bad.

[Razith]

PhoenixDove1 wrote...

I have to say I've been looking and responding to these posts and forums since I beat the game at 1 AM this morning. I just couldn't sleep then exhaustion took me at 3 AM I was so upset that was the only way I was able to sleep. I tried playing another game but couldn't, like other posters, can't even really watch tv.

My husband just put on some South Park to try and bring me up... not holding much hope though.

I would like help with one thing, how to I add those tags at the bottom of my post? So i can include the poll and the retake ME endings and all the other ones?

This sounds really familiar, honestly.  The rage has started to just exhaust me, I'm not even feeling it that much anymore, just an odd emptiness.  

Thinking about the type of ending they had lined up from other posts, and the vids of having a turian squadren and the normandy taking down Harbinger as the commercials shown.  After the goodbyes to the team it didn't even feel like Mass Effect.  No mans land didn't feel right.

[ArmyKnifeX]

Polat995 wrote...

blackeyes677 wrote...

PhoenixDove1 wrote...

Polat995 wrote...

"Mass Effect 3 is 40 hours of incredible story, ending with 10 minutes that invalidates the entire experience and will anger you. A lot."

That's a really good article.

What article is this exactly?  Link?

http://gamingshogun....ry-a-review-pc/

Whoa, FYI people there's a Trojan on that link. Even if it's a reputable site, be warned. Luckily my AV caught it right away, but please don't click it!

[DifferentD17]

I'm expecting to have to wait like a year for new endings. Which would really really suck...

[ColloquialAnachron]

  I apologise at the outset for two things: the length of this post, and my own prejudices.

  The second of my apologies stems from the case that, while I saw all the posts about the endings in the days leading up to and after release, I had convinced myself that all of you were simply "playing it wrong."  I mean by this that I fully believed people were simply not being thorough enough, perhaps hadn't played ME1 and 2 and were thus missing some content.  After finally finishing my first playthrough today, having missed only a few sidequests due to finishing Tuchanka too soon, I apologise to those I prematurely judged.

  When the From Ashes DLC fire roared up, I was bothered mostly by the characterization of the standard edition purchasers as "buyers" rather than fans.  I bought the CE, but I can fully understand a genuine fan either not having the money or not being quick enough to get a CE.  I had my opinions on the fairness of this particular DLC but I largely kept them to myself because they were conflicted:  I appreciate a smart business move but I am uncomfortable with the way in which Javik was implemented, I'll leave that at that.

   These endings, however, are not something on which I can remain silent about or uninvolved with.  The game itself, I believe most fans, old and new from every price bracket, would agree, is solid.  I didn't really care for the catch-all "A" button (obviously played on 360), but I'm one of those who played more for the story than the action.  I enjoyed the story and can forgive plot holes here and there.  I can ignore loose threads when those tied up are tied well. 

   I cannot ignore it when at the end, any one who has shown dedication, loyalty, and put in a significant amount of time and emotional investment with this game is slapped with the realisation that the choices they've made, the characters they've grown with, (and if you've played from ME1 you have grown with these characters), and the preparations they've taken amount to at the very best a traumatic and unsatisfying "TO BE CONCLUDED."

  I get it, fewer people will buy DLC if it just adds to the pre-Crucible missions.  The best move business-wise is to release DLC that sees Shep rescuing/finding his crew and LI.  We'd pay for that, and probably will.

  This series was about many things, but two themes were present throughout; the relationship between "man" and "machine" and the ability to triumph despite the odds.  The endings take the former and dumb it down to the point of frustration, and they take the latter and judge you unworthy.  Certainly the threat is dealt with.  But the player IS Shepard.  Bioware made these games with that intent.  The series is the story of Shepard, and you are Shepard, therefore this is your story.  And what happened to your story?  It got taken away from you, the story of your friends was no longer your own, the story of how you prevailed was not a happily ever after, and the story of your happiness was dangled in front of your face and smashed upon the rocks.
 
  I am upset, angry, and disappointed with these endings because none of them ended the way I wanted them to end for Shepard, my Shepard.  These endings make me think he was never really my Shepard at all, and that simply hurts.

  Thus, I join the movement.

[Maj.Pain007]

DifferentD17 wrote...

I'm expecting to have to wait like a year for new endings. Which would really really suck...

This is a possibility unless BW knew something like this would happen and already have the real endings set up as DLC.

Comes equiped with real ending and a real prologue.

[Tunapiano]

 well in case some people haven't seen it, it seems Michael Gamble is stating that we may never get what we want.

I've posted a summarized response on the BSN, but i wanted to give some more details on the 'From Ashes' development. As we've seen recently, our fans are extremely passionate and we have a great deal of respect for you.

ME3 was a labour of love for the dev team. To finish a game like ME3, it literally takes months of intense bug fixing and certification. At this point, our goal is to polish the game to an extremely high quality – not to add extra content. You hopefully see a lot of that polish in ME3. 

During that certification time, we had a small team of developers begin to craft the ‘From Ashes’ content, with the intent to finish production on it long after ME3 was out of our hands as a dev team.

However, because the plot of ME3 is so richly interwoven with the character interactions and moments, you simply cannot use a DLC module to ‘insert’ a new character. As we've mentioned before, that character has to be planned and the framework has to be established ahead of time for us to build off of with the DLC module. You may have seen a similar framework developed in ME2 for the Zaeed and Kasumi characters. We wanted Javik to be a fully featured squad member, with deep dialogue throughout the game – and we needed him to be accessible via the character selection GUI (which you cannot simply ‘overwrite’ with DLC). Thus, certain elements of the Javik appearance and some of the VO needed to be included on the disc. That is a fact. But that doesn’t mean the content was created, and then removed. It is a necessity of adding a rich character presence in our game.

That, however, is the extent of it. As mentioned above, the DLC is over 600 mb. The DLC data holds the mission itself, the cinematic flashback moments, the cinematic dialogue interactions with Javik, his weapon, the appearances for squad members… everything that makes the adventure a cohesive experience. 'From Ashes' is not Javik’s character model. It is the story of finding the last remaining Prothean, and how his tale interweaves with Commander Shepard’s as he struggles to destroy the Reaper threat.

Thanks for listening. 

As you can see he states that their goal at this point is to polish the game and not add new content, so they really don't care what we want or say it seems, they are sticking to the 3 endings is what i get from reading the 2nd paragraph.

www.twitlonger.com/show/gcijat << Source

Modifié par Tunapiano, 12 mars 2012 - 02:35 .

[comrade gando]

Militarized wrote...

I have really fallen for the "It's you being indoctrinated" thing. Harbinger is the kid... you're fighting it, he tries to make Andersan look like the bad guy by giving his option the renegade color and making it sound like the worst while talking to you.

....or it's what I tell myself at night

In the scene you can hear harbinger repeating everything that is said, the evidence that this is indoctrination is overwhelming really.

[Eirileth]

revaew wrote...

i feel as if something is wrong with me. since ive finished the game, ive sat here and read this thread. ive gone to work and just thought about this thread and thought about the suckish ending. ive also walked my dogs. but mostly ive read this thread. then i wait like a minute and refresh....

I feel the same... It's an empty feeling. Like there's nothing left to feel passionate about anymore.

[Alamandorious]

Harthouse wrote...

  I apologise at the outset for two things: the length of this post, and my own prejudices.

  The second of my apologies stems from the case that, while I saw all the posts about the endings in the days leading up to and after release, I had convinced myself that all of you were simply "playing it wrong."  I mean by this that I fully believed people were simply not being thorough enough, perhaps hadn't played ME1 and 2 and were thus missing some content.  After finally finishing my first playthrough today, having missed only a few sidequests due to finishing Tuchanka too soon, I apologise to those I prematurely judged.

  When the From Ashes DLC fire roared up, I was bothered mostly by the characterization of the standard edition purchasers as "buyers" rather than fans.  I bought the CE, but I can fully understand a genuine fan either not having the money or not being quick enough to get a CE.  I had my opinions on the fairness of this particular DLC but I largely kept them to myself because they were conflicted:  I appreciate a smart business move but I am uncomfortable with the way in which Javik was implemented, I'll leave that at that.

   These endings, however, are not something on which I can remain silent about or uninvolved with.  The game itself, I believe most fans, old and new from every price bracket, would agree, is solid.  I didn't really care for the catch-all "A" button (obviously played on 360), but I'm one of those who played more for the story than the action.  I enjoyed the story and can forgive plot holes here and there.  I can ignore loose threads when those tied up are tied well. 

   I cannot ignore it when at the end, any one who has shown dedication, loyalty, and put in a significant amount of time and emotional investment with this game is slapped with the realisation that the choices they've made, the characters they've grown with, (and if you've played from ME1 you have grown with these characters), and the preparations they've taken amount to at the very best a traumatic and unsatisfying "TO BE CONCLUDED."

  I get it, fewer people will buy DLC if it just adds to the pre-Crucible missions.  The best move business-wise is to release DLC that sees Shep rescuing/finding his crew and LI.  We'd pay for that, and probably will.

  This series was about many things, but two themes were present throughout; the relationship between "man" and "machine" and the ability to triumph despite the odds.  The endings take the former and dumb it down to the point of frustration, and they take the latter and judge you unworthy.  Certainly the threat is dealt with.  But the player IS Shepard.  Bioware made these games with that intent.  The series is the story of Shepard, and you are Shepard, therefore this is your story.  And what happened to your story?  It got taken away from you, the story of your friends was no longer your own, the story of how you prevailed was not a happily ever after, and the story of your happiness was dangled in front of your face and smashed upon the rocks.
 
  I am upset, angry, and disappointed with these endings because none of them ended the way I wanted them to end for Shepard, my Shepard.  These endings make me think he was never really my Shepard at all, and that simply hurts.

  Thus, I join the movement.

Well said and welcome.

Report to the Citadel for briefing and assignment.

[DoodleMG]

Still not cool with the endings. Things look pretty good though for this happening. Why? People are speaking up! And there's literally just over a page a MINUTE. Brilliant.

[blackeyes677]

DoodleMG wrote...

Still not cool with the endings. Things look pretty good though for this happening. Why? People are speaking up! And there's literally just over a page a MINUTE. Brilliant.

Keep it up!  Stay in the fight people!

[ziyon conqueror]

Here's something I figure is corny for a sci-fi series: a wedding.

[DifferentD17]

Maj.Pain007 wrote...

DifferentD17 wrote...

I'm expecting to have to wait like a year for new endings. Which would really really suck...

This is a possibility unless BW knew something like this would happen and already have the real endings set up as DLC.

Comes equiped with real ending and a real prologue.

Even if they expected it it doesn't mean they were working on anything... sigh

I would rather it have been delayed again.

[Darth Howie]

Gonna be short here. I just wanted the ending to be a culmination of my decisions throughout the series. I was hoping for a Paragon or Renegade ending. I was hoping for different finales for all the Shepards I had built and taken through the first two games. With the one size fits all ending that pays no regard to my decisions, I have no desire to play through this game again. I thought this week I would buy Tales of Graces and let it sit on the back burner for a while. But now I will play it from day one. I might not be able to control the story of that game, but at least it won't lie to me and pretend that the outcome will be based on my decisions.

[Aztlanna]

Annaleah wrote...

Eirileth wrote...

OMG!! I DID SEE A CHANGE!!! After my hard work, instead of dying to the Harvester, Cortez managed to land safely!!

A small change, but a change nonetheless.

Wait how did you get that to happen? o__o

Cortez lived in my playthrough too. I didn't know that was a big deal.

[Kitten Tactics]

VonVerrikan wrote...

Do you guys use this thread as a sort of support group to fight the dark depression building inside you? Because I do. Knowing so many of you share my passion and feel the same emotional connection to this really does wonders for me.

Thank you to every one of you who has posted here

It's one of the only things that has made me feel a bit better.  That and going out on a picnic on this, the first gorgeous day of the year.

[Trunks Bordare]

VonVerrikan wrote...

Do you guys use this thread as a sort of support group to fight the dark depression building inside you? Because I do. Knowing so many of you share my passion and feel the same emotional connection to this really does wonders for me.

Thank you to every one of you who has posted here

I think that's the beauty of this community and this thread.  We all help pick each other up.  No one gets left behind.  I know that's how I feel.