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[Experimentel]

 Natasha Shepard snarled under her breath, throwing every shred of will, every ounce of the power that made her the shield, the leader of her friends, her people, her galaxy – and moved The Illusive Man’s control just enough to miss the shot that would have killed Anderson. The Illusive Man was too caught up in his fury to even notice.

                “And who will you listen to Shepard? An old solider, stuck in his ways?” He continued a fanatic glint in his eyes. “And what if he’s wrong? What if controlling the Reapers is the answer?”

                -normal dialogue here in which Shepard convinces The Illusive Man to pull a Saren; Anderson and Shepard are now freed of The Illusive Man’s control. Anderson is hurt but alive (he’s got a steel vest for god’s sake and it looked like Shepard shot in the stomach) –

                Sasha leaned heavily on Anderson. Everything hurt so god-damned bad… The Crucible was in place. Was this nightmare… over yet?

                “Hang on Shepard. You hang in there.” Anderson said. Sasha grimaced when she attempted to grin.

                “I-I think… I’ll survive.” Sasha replied, sounding heavily winded. She pressed a hand to her side to stop the bleeding. “Just glad… you didn’t… pull your gun. Might not… have made it then.”

                “You did good child. You did good. I’m proud of you.” Anderson said as he carefully set her down, grimacing as something brushed his own wound.

                “Shepard. Commander!” It was Hackett’s voice. “Something’s wrong! Nothing’s happening!”

                “What… do you need me to do?” Sasha said. She tried to get up but Anderson stopped her.

                -Citadel opens obviously, the panel beneath Shepard starts to move-

                “Shepard!” Anderson shouted as the panel beneath her began to rise into the air. Sasha staggered and collapsed heavily.

                “Get… out of here Anderson. You’ve earned… a break. I’ll take care of the rest.” Shepard said loudly, wincing as the pain returned full force.

                - Scene with Space Child explaining the whole cycle thing, normal dialogue responses (the whole exchange here doesn’t make sense but I can’t think of anything to fix it) then the kid explains the three
choices–

                “No.” Sasha said. “None of these choices are the right ones.”

                “You have no other options.” The Catalyst said.

                “And who… gave you the right to decide? Who… gave you the right to wipe us all out
because we… create synthetics?” Sasha demanded, standing firm. She tried to
stand taller even though she was losing so much blood. “Who… decided the relays
can’t exist?”

                “It is the only way to prevent chaos. These are your only solutions.”

                “I don’t… believe that. You said it yourself – there is hope for a future because I am standing here. And the only…. the only…” Sasha coughed hard and then continued on, “The only reason I am is because every… race in this galaxy supports me. Even the synthetics, even the geth. Don’t you think we deserve… at least a chance? A chance… to decide… our own future?”

                “The harmony will not last.”

                “Then we will… make it last ourselves without someone… deciding for us. Your solution has failed… your new solutions are not better – they would leave hundreds to die trapped…. in this system. This is not order… it’s genocide.”

                - At this point the Catalyst should be able to present a fourth option, given the fact it’s some kind of all powerful space child, that would destroy the Citadel, itself and the reapers but leave the mass relays unharmed. Shepard would be able to die or not die given the amount of war assests collected -

I believe this is a better ending for the Ultimate Paragon. 

Modifié par Experimentel, 12 mars 2012 - 02:56 .

[Shinzarn]

This thread is a lifesaver. Just thought you guys should know the amazing effect that solidarity and catharsis are having on me and mine. Knowing we aren't alone in our desperation and confusion is a big plus, and the BSN forums are giving us a sense of direction. Keep at it!

[Kitten Tactics]

Dan Rosse wrote...

And after that PLAYABLE epilogue (not dumb slideshows or tiny text windows)

You mean you didn't think "Commander Shepard has become a legend.  Buy the DLC and play the multiplayer!" to be a fitting epilogue for your 5 year investment?

[Toby Shepard]

blackeyes677 wrote...

Yeah, several of my fraternity brothers are playing though right now.  When they asked me how it was (had not finished yet) I told them "This game is literally the best game ever made.  You will be blown away".

I am not looking forward to the apology I need to give them when they finish.

Nearly the same here, if they ask me I put on a big smile and say "See for yourself" because I really don't want to spoil anything for them. I played it completely spoiler-free and I enjoyed the game up to the last minutes - they deserve the same. But I already feel bad for them. :/

It's like you are torn between protecting them from a nightmare and letting them enjoy the rest of the game.

Modifié par Toby Shepard, 12 mars 2012 - 02:55 .

[ArmyKnifeX]

Just want to repost this link so it doesn't get lost.

If you're going to PAX East and want to represent yourself and those of us who're upset, get together, get organized, and hold the line. Enlist in the PAX East Platoon today!

http://social.bioware.com/group/7049/

Modifié par ArmyKnifeX, 12 mars 2012 - 02:57 .

[Computim]

Darkwingduck wrote...

I think it's interesting how many times I have read "give us a better dlc ending, we'll pay for it" because it sort of goes against the videogame norm. Usually when a fandom is scorned they act out angrily but in this instance the injustice done has rendered everyone in such a state of crippling depression we've become almost desperate. I mean I could have easily seen this become pitchforks threatening to burn down bioware Edmonton if DLC was not provided for free and with haste but that doesn't seem to be the case. Perhaps I've just not been lurking hard enough, maybe a lot of angry people are threatening to never play the bioware games again or what have you but I haven't seen a lot of it.

It's because the series, the game was amazing, epic, one of the best I've -ever- played and I've been playing for a couple decades now.  Then the ending ruined that all in 10 minutes. 

I just tried turning around and walking away, hoping desparately.. then I lost it, tried to shoot the kid, then went hot fuzz and angrily tried to empty my pistol into the air.  I'm not completing this.  My character is sitting here refusing to move.  I shall allow the reapers to defeat the fleet if necessary.  I am the master of my destiny, not some figment child, reaper indoctrination or a deadline gone horribly wrong.

[Sywen]

I'm still heartbroken. *throws money at Bioware to unbreak it*

[Kitten Tactics]

Now that I think about it, did anyone else feel even more out of place when they just dump you back on to the CIC? That worked in 2 because of the way 2 ended, but it felt just plain wrong this go around.

[blackeyes677]

Toby Shepard wrote...

blackeyes677 wrote...

Yeah, several of my fraternity brothers are playing though right now.  When they asked me how it was (had not finished yet) I told them "This game is literally the best game ever made.  You will be blown away".

I am not looking forward to the apology I need to give them when they finish.

Nearly the same here, if they ask me I put on a big smile and say "See for yourself" because I really don't want to spoil anything for them. I played it completely spoiler-free and I enjoyed the game up to the last minutes - they deserve the same. But I already feel bad about them. :/

It's like you are torn between protecting them from a nightmare and letting them enjoy the rest of the game.

Man did you say it right.  My cousin called me earlier and asked how it was (he just started ME2, only got into the series recently) and I told him that it was awesome, becouse it was.  I just don't mention how the last 5-10 minuted invalidates all of that.

[toots1221]

Darkwingduck wrote...

I think it's interesting how many times I have read "give us a better dlc ending, we'll pay for it" because it sort of goes against the videogame norm. Usually when a fandom is scorned they act out angrily but in this instance the injustice done has rendered everyone in such a state of crippling depression we've become almost desperate. I mean I could have easily seen this become pitchforks threatening to burn down bioware Edmonton if DLC was not provided for free and with haste but that doesn't seem to be the case. Perhaps I've just not been lurking hard enough, maybe a lot of angry people are threatening to never play the bioware games again or what have you but I haven't seen a lot of it.

Yeah I'm desperately hoping Bioware has some master plan that will give us all a better ending. I don't care how much I have to pay for it,or how long I have to wait, I just want there to be a better ending so so much.

[ShepardMyFriend]

I made it to Palaven on my 2nd playthrough. Once I saw the planet being destroyed, I didn't care. I realized it won't matter in the end anyway. Man, I hate this feeling...

[IndelibleJester]

I slipped up when my cousin was talking about finishing her ME2 playthrough and mentioned something about wishing I could still enjoy the first and second game, too. :/ But didn't tell her anything else when she asked.

[ArmyKnifeX]

Kitten Tactics wrote...

Now that I think about it, did anyone else feel even more out of place when they just dump you back on to the CIC? That worked in 2 because of the way 2 ended, but it felt just plain wrong this go around.

They also dumped you back in time, too.

[Dan Rosse]

Kitten Tactics wrote...

You mean you didn't think "Commander Shepard has become a legend.  Buy the DLC and play the multiplayer!" to be a fitting epilogue for your 5 year investment?

You kidding? This tiny window with bullsh… text even worse than that Rock in NWN. I want playable epilogue! Not like in LoSB, pieceful one. Something like Normandy location in ME3: there's no fight, but dialogs and LULZ.

Modifié par Dan Rosse, 12 mars 2012 - 03:02 .

[Aztlanna]

Militarized wrote...

My buddy just asked a question that was sort of a revelation to me now as well.

Why didn't Shepard just go to Ilos to get on the citadel if he needed to get into the Citadel so badly? It's a backdoor onto the Citadel....

 OMG, that's a HUGE inconsistency. They could've mounted a huge attack that way.

[ReapersSniper]

Sywen wrote...

I'm still heartbroken. *throws money at Bioware to unbreak it*

Its been three days since I beat it and I can't bring myself to turn my xbox back on been offline for two days :/

[Abram730]

Computim wrote...

Abram730 wrote...

How many people had their LI commit suicide? LOL... It happened to me.

..and I thought -I- had it bad.. guess you probably should have talked to her after Tessia fell... you know, rather then go hit on Allers down in engineering *cough* hahaha

I should of done the Geth fighter mission, rather then going for the base... tali took her mask off and jumped off a cliff  after it started raining quarians... oopps... Did I do something wrong?  Something I said?

Actually I reloaded and did the mission I skipped.

[Kitten Tactics]

ShepardMyFriend wrote...

I made it to Palaven on my 2nd playthrough. Once I saw the planet being destroyed, I didn't care. I realized it won't matter in the end anyway. Man, I hate this feeling...

I know.  Even the thought of suiting up with Shepard to go investigate a mysterious find on Eden Prime with Nihilus feels pointless now.

[TamiBx]

Shinzarn wrote...

This thread is a lifesaver. Just thought you guys should know the amazing effect that solidarity and catharsis are having on me and mine. Knowing we aren't alone in our desperation and confusion is a big plus, and the BSN forums are giving us a sense of direction. Keep at it!

When I finished the game, I was on spring break at home. It was so depressing that I couldn't touch the Xbox anymore. Now I'm back at school, sitting in my dorm room alone reading this thread nonstop instead of writing an essay...it helps me feel better knowing I'm not the only one who hated it and felt betrayed. 

[Morladin]

Experimentel wrote...

 Natasha Shepard snarled under her breath, throwing every shred of will, every ounce of the power that made her the shield, the leader of her friends, her people, her galaxy – and moved The Illusive Man’s control just enough to miss the shot that would have killed Anderson. The Illusive Man was too caught up in his fury to even notice.

                “And who will you listen to Shepard? An old solider, stuck in his ways?” He continued a fanatic glint in his eyes. “And what if he’s wrong? What if controlling the Reapers is the answer?”

                -normal dialogue here in which Shepard convinces The Illusive Man to pull a Saren; Anderson and Shepard are now freed of The Illusive Man’s control. Anderson is hurt but alive (he’s got a steel vest for god’s sake and it looked like Shepard shot in the stomach) –

                Sasha leaned heavily on Anderson. Everything hurt so god-damned bad… The Crucible was in place. Was this nightmare… over yet?

                “Hang on Shepard. You hang in there.” Anderson said. Sasha grimaced when she attempted to grin.

                “I-I think… I’ll survive.” Sasha replied, sounding heavily winded. She pressed a hand to her side to stop the bleeding. “Just glad… you didn’t… pull your gun. Might not… have made it then.”

                “You did good child. You did good. I’m proud of you.” Anderson said as he carefully set her down, grimacing as something brushed his own wound.

                “Shepard. Commander!” It was Hackett’s voice. “Something’s wrong! Nothing’s happening!”

                “What… do you need me to do?” Sasha said. She tried to get up but Anderson stopped her.

                -Citadel opens obviously, the panel beneath Shepard starts to move-

                “Shepard!” Anderson shouted as the panel beneath her began to rise into the air. Sasha staggered and collapsed heavily.

                “Get… out of here Anderson. You’ve earned… a break. I’ll take care of the rest.” Shepard said loudly, wincing as the pain returned full force.

                - Scene with Space Child explaining the whole cycle thing, normal dialogue responses (the whole exchange here doesn’t make sense but I can’t think of anything to fix it) then the kid explains the three
choices–

                “No.” Sasha said. “None of these choices are the right ones.”

                “You have no other options.” The Catalyst said.

                “And who… gave you the right to decide? Who… gave you the right to wipe us all out
because we… create synthetics?” Sasha demanded, standing firm. She tried to
stand taller even though she was losing so much blood. “Who… decided the relays
can’t exist?”

                “It is the only way to prevent chaos. These are your only solutions.”

                “I don’t… believe that. You said it yourself – there is hope for a future because I am standing here. And the only…. the only…” Sasha coughed hard and then continued on, “The only reason I am is because every… race in this galaxy supports me. Even the synthetics, even the geth. Don’t you think we deserve… at least a chance? A chance… to decide… our own future?”

                “The harmony will not last.”

                “Then we will… make it last ourselves without someone… deciding for us. Your solution has failed… your new solutions are not better – they would leave hundreds to die trapped…. in this system. This is not order… it’s genocide.”

                - At this point the Catalyst should be able to present a fourth option, given the fact it’s some kind of all powerful space child, that would destroy the Citadel, itself and the reapers but leave the mass relays unharmed. Shepard would be able to die or not die given the amount of war assests collected -

I believe this is a better ending for the Ultimate Paragon. 

There. You've fixed it.. This could be implemented in a patch with minimal work on Bioware's part. Though I'd want Normandy in system to pick Shepard up if he has enough war assets to survive.

[revaew]

ReapersSniper wrote...

Sywen wrote...

I'm still heartbroken. *throws money at Bioware to unbreak it*

Its been three days since I beat it and I can't bring myself to turn my xbox back on been offline for two days :/

4 days for me man.

feelsbadman.jpg

[RussianOrc]

IndelibleJester wrote...

I slipped up when my cousin was talking about finishing her ME2 playthrough and mentioned something about wishing I could still enjoy the first and second game, too. :/ But didn't tell her anything else when she asked.

you're such a good person xD.

[CronoDragoon]

blackeyes677 wrote...

Toby Shepard wrote...

blackeyes677 wrote...

Yeah, several of my fraternity brothers are playing though right now.  When they asked me how it was (had not finished yet) I told them "This game is literally the best game ever made.  You will be blown away".

I am not looking forward to the apology I need to give them when they finish.

Nearly the same here, if they ask me I put on a big smile and say "See for yourself" because I really don't want to spoil anything for them. I played it completely spoiler-free and I enjoyed the game up to the last minutes - they deserve the same. But I already feel bad about them. :/

It's like you are torn between protecting them from a nightmare and letting them enjoy the rest of the game.

Man did you say it right.  My cousin called me earlier and asked how it was (he just started ME2, only got into the series recently) and I told him that it was awesome, becouse it was.  I just don't mention how the last 5-10 minuted invalidates all of that.

I did mention it, because I'd rather them be temporarily pissed at me than feel even a fraction of the nihilism I felt after the ending.

[TheSneric]

Anyone else in complete denial about the ending and putting their own in its place?