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[IndustrializedTaco]

Sundown Native wrote...

I'll say for the trolls:

Would you buy another ME game after this? Or anything BioWare made?

If yes, know that you'll never get the chance if the company doesn't listen. Needs of the many.

I find the whole Boycot Bioware thing a bit dumb... I mean I'm not exactly ecstatic about what they did to ME3, but to say you are never going to buy anything from them again is just a tad bit over zealous don't you think?

[Rob8228]

J5550123 wrote...

beebeenz wrote...

hey guys, I've been seriously itching to post, finally passed the 24 hour lobby after i joined BSN and registered ME3, been lurking here and its been the only thing thats made me feel better about this mess. loved the ME universe since ME1 and just wanted to show my support for a more fitting and respectful end to such an amazing series.

that said here is the most insidious thing about how it all ended for me. the fact that nothing i did through the whole trilogy seemed to matter, really gave me a palpable negative reaction followed by complete and utter disbelief and incomprehension of how this was even possible. then i started to feel stupid, stupid for reacting so strongly to the ending of a game, stupid for having invested so much time into the series, stupid for having invested emotionally in the universe and its characters at all. i paid time, money and emotions. to. feel. stupid. for. it.

that said i really cannot blame the dev team, they are extraordinary people who have crafted such an amazing story, universe and characters. i really feel for them because as bad as we all feel about this I'm sure they feel just as bad if not worse. the whole fiasco really reeks of creative control being taken from the creative people involved at the last moment in a mad rush to get something, anything out the door and selling. the game was 1% from being appropriately completed and thats a tragedy to me.

Welcome to the forum, and we do have to respect that Bioware did make a fantastic game. The only flaw is the ending, I think.

Hell, they made three fantastic games. The ending just invalidates them.

[Commander_Fezz]

I want a happy ending, I don't care if its unrealistic because with these games I thought It was all about choice anyway! The only difference in those endings was the damn color. We need those 16 endings to all be completely different, Not 3 endings with different deaths....... That lead upto the same thing (again)

[IndustrializedTaco]

kramerfan86 wrote...

beetlebailey123 wrote...

kramerfan86 wrote...

Seriously, 0% chance there is alt endings, I really think a lot of you are just setting yourselves up for extended misery through false hope. Much more likely we get canned statement either 1) Telling us to deal with it 2) An attempt to explain/justify the ending. I dont think out of fan rage they are suddenly going to create a DLC they originally had no plans of doing. Id like it, dont get me wrong I DESPISE the ending, but I just dont see it. Im moving on, Ive made up my own ending that Ill accept as my own canon because frankly that's the best I think is a realistic possibility.

One can hope though... I enjoyed the endings, I thought the sacrifice of Shepard was worth it. As I said in a previous post THE PLOT HOLES! I don't like things that are not logical.

To me though when I was hoping for a fix it was just extending the misery for me.  When I decided to just ignore the ending (the greatest insult you can inflict on an enemy) and make up my own path in my head I felt better, I really did.

That is a good option. I hope Bioware will change the endings, I'm not counting on it but I hope.

[Denethar]

beetlebailey123 wrote...

Sundown Native wrote...

I'll say for the trolls:

Would you buy another ME game after this? Or anything BioWare made?

If yes, know that you'll never get the chance if the company doesn't listen. Needs of the many.

I find the whole Boycot Bioware thing a bit dumb... I mean I'm not exactly ecstatic about what they did to ME3, but to say you are never going to buy anything from them again is just a tad bit over zealous don't you think?

I've done it with Ubisoft for 3 years now. Perhaps it's stupid, but I'm not going to change my mind.

[laughing sherpa girl]

babachewie wrote...

J5550123 wrote...

babachewie wrote...

DifferentD17 wrote...

J5550123 wrote...

DifferentD17 wrote...

babachewie wrote...

DifferentD17 wrote...

babachewie wrote...

Bioware fans....the ultimate snobs. Always think they're entitled to everything,

I think we are entitled to what they promised.

what did they promise?

That our choices matter, that there would be more than one ending, the also promised an ending that ties up all loose ends, not one that makes more questions.

"We wouldn't do it any other way. How could you go through all three campaigns playing as your Shepard and then be forced into a bespoke ending that everyone gets? But I can't say any more than that..." - Mike Gamble

Always have to have people that like to insult us for no reason. Can't they just go enjoy the ending and leave us alone?

No they want everyone to be sad, and not to know what happened to the favorite characters/species. They don't care they got what they wanted.

You people cry about everything. Gay people, Tali's Face, Vega looking like a Jersey shore reject, Day 1 DLC, the freaking ending. And all this isnt even the tip of the iceberg. You act liek children and spam Amazon and Metacritc with zeros while writing temper tantrums because oyu didnt like the th elast 5 minutes. Your all impossible to please. I actually loved how it ended. It was balsy and bass ass and totally what my mosly renagade shepard would of done. He died doin it and it was beautiful.  

Okay, bye bye now. Anyway...fix the ending.

Nah i'm gonna stick around and watch you all cry and suffer about something you have no control over and will have to deal with. I guess theres always fan fiction for you people

Checkmate Chewie.. http://www.forbes.co...dlc-from-ashes/

With Forbes chiming in about trust, Biowares Stock will have just taken a major dip..  It isnt just us fans saying somethings wrong, its the whole damned financial community as well.

[J5550123]

Commander_Fezz wrote...

I want a happy ending, I don't care if its unrealistic because with these games I thought It was all about choice anyway! The only difference in those endings was the damn color. We need those 16 endings to all be completely different, Not 3 endings with different deaths....... That lead upto the same thing (again)

It is a bit funny that people say "Well, the ending is perfect because a happy ending isn't realistic." Lol, last I checked it was a Science Fiction series. Science Fiction doesn't tend to be realistic. If it was, it'd be called Realistic Fiction.

[FinalEndeavor]

choice seems invalid at this point to bioware!!! seems like if you were paragon or renegade you are ****ed and you are dead and your team is stranded on a jungle planet even thought your love LI was with you when you died if we go by the ending that we have right now

[Kloborgg711]

beetlebailey123 wrote...

Sundown Native wrote...

I'll say for the trolls:

Would you buy another ME game after this? Or anything BioWare made?

If yes, know that you'll never get the chance if the company doesn't listen. Needs of the many.

I find the whole Boycot Bioware thing a bit dumb... I mean I'm not exactly ecstatic about what they did to ME3, but to say you are never going to buy anything from them again is just a tad bit over zealous don't you think?

No, and here's why. I do not hold the belief that from this point forward Bioware has forever lost the ability to craft a compelling story. I don't even hold that Mass Effect is really the pinnacle of their work. As much as I can't think of a series I love more, I could've said that about BG before Mass Effect. No, that's not the problem.
If Mass Effect doesn't get some kind of real closure, I won't buy (not the same as boycotting) new Bioware RPGs 
simply because I will no longer trust them to see a series through. I accept that in a few years they might create another universe I could possibly fall in love in, but whatever happens I do NOT want to repeat going through what I went through when I finished ME3.
That kind of depression and devastation is not worth it, pure and simple.


EDIT: And yeah, it's weird to see so many try to validate the ending by saying it's "realistic". Where are they when Shepard goes toe-to-toe with a Reaper without any cover, literally dodging its galaxy-destroying death beams on foot?

Modifié par Kloborgg711, 12 mars 2012 - 08:30 .

[Xenite]

beetlebailey123 wrote...

Sundown Native wrote...

I'll say for the trolls:

Would you buy another ME game after this? Or anything BioWare made?

If yes, know that you'll never get the chance if the company doesn't listen. Needs of the many.

I find the whole Boycot Bioware thing a bit dumb... I mean I'm not exactly ecstatic about what they did to ME3, but to say you are never going to buy anything from them again is just a tad bit over zealous don't you think?

Well seeing how they burned fans in two games in a row now...

It's sad but that last 10 minutes ruined an otherwise solid game for me, if this truely is the real ending then I have no further intrest in DLC or replay's when my hero's journey will always end in this debacle.

Modifié par Xenite, 12 mars 2012 - 08:31 .

[Zulmoka531]

Heh, even folks on the MMO champion site are joining the ranks with those displeased by the endings.
http://www.mmo-champ...Effect-3/page67

[babachewie]

Well I can't respond to everyone fast enough cause the site is being slow but I'm not trying to troll anyone. I just got a different opinion. The games barely been out a week and everyone is going into mass hysteria just like they always do. Nobody can be patient and see maybe if Bioware has a plan. They did add a scene where Shepard lives right and is stranded. I don't think they would do that without it meaning something. I loved the ending but I personally believe they are probably working on some sort of expansion.

[TheFinisher]

This may have been mentioned, but does anyone else think that EA may have just rushed Bioware to put the game out sooner than they would have liked? Maybe EA was in such a hurry to profit from this they didn't let them craft an effective ending for the base game. I recall back in late fall it was announced that there would be Hammerhead and Mako missions. There weren't any.

[Commander_Fezz]

J5550123 wrote...

Commander_Fezz wrote...

I want a happy ending, I don't care if its unrealistic because with these games I thought It was all about choice anyway! The only difference in those endings was the damn color. We need those 16 endings to all be completely different, Not 3 endings with different deaths....... That lead upto the same thing (again)

It is a bit funny that people say "Well, the ending is perfect because a happy ending isn't realistic." Lol, last I checked it was a Science Fiction series. Science Fiction doesn't tend to be realistic. If it was, it'd be called Realistic Fiction.

I guess you're right but, I was thinking IF I didn't say anything about realism you'll always get the one who goes "Well happy endings aint realistic!" etc.

[Wolfgang_Ocelot]

I honestly did feel let down, I mean there are a lot of problems I had. First they just up a trolled us with the fact that no matter how hard you tried to get everything for the final battle, it all amounted to diddly squat. They up and troll Tali by giving her, her home world, then not long after throwing her on a remote planet with no relays, and no chance to get back home. And most importantly...Killing my shepard, I wanted to see him live through it all (or at least make him die in a better way than this bad cop out.) Dammit I am one of those guys who instantly loved Tali and wanted her as a LI, so I wanted it to be a nice ending with them both for me. It made me sad face.

Honestly though I loved the game up until the ending, the scenes with Thane and Mordin were some of the most emotionally impacting scenes I've seen in a video game.

If they do come out with DLC for new endings, I will get it. If not, oh well I will just disregard their sad excuse for an ending and replace it with my own.

[laughing sherpa girl]

J5550123 wrote...

Commander_Fezz wrote...

I want a happy ending, I don't care if its unrealistic because with these games I thought It was all about choice anyway! The only difference in those endings was the damn color. We need those 16 endings to all be completely different, Not 3 endings with different deaths....... That lead upto the same thing (again)

It is a bit funny that people say "Well, the ending is perfect because a happy ending isn't realistic." Lol, last I checked it was a Science Fiction series. Science Fiction doesn't tend to be realistic. If it was, it'd be called Realistic Fiction.

yeahhhh, heres some of that incredible gloom that exists after the war is over.. VJ day Parl Harbor

[Mhgasa]

J5550123 wrote...

Commander_Fezz wrote...

I want a happy ending, I don't care if its unrealistic because with these games I thought It was all about choice anyway! The only difference in those endings was the damn color. We need those 16 endings to all be completely different, Not 3 endings with different deaths....... That lead upto the same thing (again)

It is a bit funny that people say "Well, the ending is perfect because a happy ending isn't realistic." Lol, last I checked it was a Science Fiction series. Science Fiction doesn't tend to be realistic. If it was, it'd be called Realistic Fiction.

Realistic or not, mass effect is a "create your own story" game, which should include various endings from happy to sad. You cant advertise that and then just give everyone the same ending. Atm its hard to tell the endings apart because there are so many unknowns because of the lack of a prologue explaining what happened afterwards The only difference i can see is the color of the beam and glowing eyes in the merge ending.

[Lord Hirudo]

Bioware's had a good history of fan interaction for the most part, I'm really hoping they take note of this.
This isn't just some fringe group here. They've managed to alienate a majority of their fanbase.

[FinalEndeavor]

i think the entire mass effect story comes down to if you were nice or mean to conrad. thats how much BS the endings were

[J5550123]

babachewie wrote...

Well I can't respond to everyone fast enough cause the site is being slow but I'm not trying to troll anyone. I just got a different opinion. The games barely been out a week and everyone is going into mass hysteria just like they always do. Nobody can be patient and see maybe if Bioware has a plan. They did add a scene where Shepard lives right and is stranded. I don't think they would do that without it meaning something. I loved the ending but I personally believe they are probably working on some sort of expansion.

I'm glad you love the ending, but trust me, not everyone here has been complaining about everything. I never posted on this forum until I beat Mass Effect 3. And I never said I hated Bioware. In fact I love Bioware and the game. The ending was just a let down for me. I'm glad you like the ending, but respect that we don't is all we ask. And you're right, some people are going crazy with the insults and anger, but not all of us are like that.

[Solo57]

hey everyone. new here so hi.

i just finished the ending of the game and i just want to be sure about this, and please correc t me if im wrong. no matter what choice between the three at the ending, you die?

[Denethar]

Zulmoka531 wrote...

Heh, even folks on the MMO champion site are joining the ranks with those displeased by the endings.
http://www.mmo-champ...Effect-3/page67

When people who are used to WoW storytelling has a problem with the ending....then you know it's bad.

[IndustrializedTaco]

Xenite wrote...

beetlebailey123 wrote...

Sundown Native wrote...

I'll say for the trolls:

Would you buy another ME game after this? Or anything BioWare made?

If yes, know that you'll never get the chance if the company doesn't listen. Needs of the many.

I find the whole Boycot Bioware thing a bit dumb... I mean I'm not exactly ecstatic about what they did to ME3, but to say you are never going to buy anything from them again is just a tad bit over zealous don't you think?

Well seeing how they burned fans in two games in a row now...

It's sad but that last 10 minutes ruined an otherwise solid game for me, if this truely is the real ending then I have no further intrest in DLC or replay's when my hero's journey will always end in this debacle.

I'm going to say it I liked DA2. I thought it was a tad bit mudane, but the characters were fun, and the over all story for me was interesting. Now the last 10 minutes do add a sour note to the whole game. What about the game itself is it not awesome. I guess I am too forgiving but I just don't see the point.

[Lord Hirudo]

TheFinisher wrote...

This may have been mentioned, but does anyone else think that EA may have just rushed Bioware to put the game out sooner than they would have liked? Maybe EA was in such a hurry to profit from this they didn't let them craft an effective ending for the base game. I recall back in late fall it was announced that there would be Hammerhead and Mako missions. There weren't any.

You might have a point.  A lot of this would be solved if one of the writers would actually make a frank public statement as to what did or did not go wrong.