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Aerial_ace901

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No if u choose the red choice and have a high enough effective strength at the end u will survive(somehow from orbit to ruble on earth but u survive)

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Solo57 wrote...

hey everyone. new here so hi.

i just finished the ending of the game and i just want to be sure about this, and please correc t me if im wrong. no matter what choice between the three at the ending, you die?


Howdy. And from what I've heard, if you get enough war points then Shepard survives in the "Destroy" ending. But even then it doesn't change much, and you only get a short scene for it.

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 I'm assembling a team to get some boots on the ground.
Those who will be attending PAX East, I highly encourage you to join. Even if you're not going to attend PAX East, we'll need support teams behind the lines whipping up art, discussing what questions you want brought to the Mass Effect panel, and just general moral support.
Enlist in the PAX East Platoon today!

If things turn rosey before then, well, we'll have an awesome team to hang out with and chat about one of our favorite games.

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Mhgasa wrote...

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I want a happy ending, I don't care if its unrealistic because with these games I thought It was all about choice anyway! The only difference in those endings was the damn color. We need those 16 endings to all be completely different, Not 3 endings with different deaths....... That lead upto the same thing (again)


It is a bit funny that people say "Well, the ending is perfect because a happy ending isn't realistic." Lol, last I checked it was a Science Fiction series. Science Fiction doesn't tend to be realistic. If it was, it'd be called Realistic Fiction.


Realistic or not, mass effect is a "create your own story" game, which should include various endings from happy to sad. You cant advertise that and then just give everyone the same ending. Atm its hard to tell the endings apart because there are so many unknowns because of the lack of a prologue explaining what happened afterwards The only difference i can see is the color of the beam and glowing eyes in the merge ending.


Exactly, the fact is I wanted to see multiple endings. I wouldn't have minded an ending where if you didn't do enough, such as collect enough war assets, when Harbinger shoots you on the final charge, you die and the reapers win.

There should also be a happily ever after ending, and a few in the middle. We do not need a canon ending, the story arc ends.

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Lord Hirudo wrote...

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This may have been mentioned, but does anyone else think that EA may have just rushed Bioware to put the game out sooner than they would have liked? Maybe EA was in such a hurry to profit from this they didn't let them craft an effective ending for the base game. I recall back in late fall it was announced that there would be Hammerhead and Mako missions. There weren't any.

You might have a point.  A lot of this would be solved if one of the writers would actually make a frank public statement as to what did or did not go wrong.

You can't exactly flame the studio you are working for. Unless you are making the battlefield series of course.

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I wouldn't think this huge uproar of complaints could be ignored, people saying that it's done and there is no chance they will change the end, if so it just means they will get $0 literally from any DLC they make that doesn't change the outcome of the game, because I know in my case, I can't even think of playing ME3 again (nor the first two) as it stands.

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Solo57 wrote...

hey everyone. new here so hi.

i just finished the ending of the game and i just want to be sure about this, and please correc t me if im wrong. no matter what choice between the three at the ending, you die?


No you can live if your galaxy rating is high enough and it also depends on whether you have saved the collecter base or not

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Solo57 wrote...

hey everyone. new here so hi.

i just finished the ending of the game and i just want to be sure about this, and please correc t me if im wrong. no matter what choice between the three at the ending, you die?


depending how much your war assests are and if you have a hight galactic rating form the multiplayer you could have a secret ending if you chose the destroy repaers ending.(which is a body(thought to be shepard on the streets of london, breaking the hallucination/trick of harbinger) you get a scene where soldier with n7 dog tags is buried under concrete and the breaths for a second before the credits start

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Solo57 wrote...

hey everyone. new here so hi.

i just finished the ending of the game and i just want to be sure about this, and please correc t me if im wrong. no matter what choice between the three at the ending, you die?


No, if you have a high enough EMS, after the Normandy crash scene, you get a clip of Shepard in rubble and he breathes. Really quick. But they are all essentially the same, yes.

EDIT: Also, check some of the theories out in this thread. It has given a lot of us hope: http://social.biowar...ndex/9727423/42 

Modifié par Rob8228, 12 mars 2012 - 08:38 .


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Heh, even folks on the MMO champion site are joining the ranks with those displeased by the endings.
http://www.mmo-champ...Effect-3/page67



When people who are used to WoW storytelling has a problem with the ending....then you know it's bad.

 
Lol! I have to agree with that.

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I'll say for the trolls:

Would you buy another ME game after this? Or anything BioWare made?

If yes, know that you'll never get the chance if the company doesn't listen. Needs of the many.

I find the whole Boycot Bioware thing a bit dumb... I mean I'm not exactly ecstatic about what they did to ME3, but to say you are never going to buy anything from them again is just a tad bit over zealous don't you think?


No, and here's why. I do not hold the belief that from this point forward Bioware has forever lost the ability to craft a compelling story. I don't even hold that Mass Effect is really the pinnacle of their work. As much as I can't think of a series I love more, I could've said that about BG before Mass Effect. No, that's not the problem.
If Mass Effect doesn't get some kind of real closure, I won't buy (not the same as boycotting) new Bioware RPGs 
simply because I will no longer trust them to see a series through. I accept that in a few years they might create another universe I could possibly fall in love in, but whatever happens I do NOT want to repeat going through what I went through when I finished ME3.
That kind of depression and devastation is not worth it, pure and simple.


EDIT: And yeah, it's weird to see so many try to validate the ending by saying it's "realistic". Where are they when Shepard goes toe-to-toe with a Reaper without any cover, literally dodging its galaxy-destroying death beams on foot?


I'm going to jump in here as well if i may..
I trusted bioware to honor my loyalty to them by keeping their promises to provide me with a game that took into account all my choices of the past five years;  That provided for an ending that in iteself was a culmination of those choices; that ended the story arc in an honorable and respectful manner which was as fullfilling as they claimed and promised.
They violated that trust. used me for nothing more than one more small ant  to bring them money.
I'm a vietnam vet; I DO have PTSD, and once you break my trust, your gone..

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Collector base? I don't think I ever saw one in ME3...which base was that?

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all i know is that when i finished the game and chose one of the three options i just sat there after the credits were done for about 2 hours thinking wtf just happened

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My wife is a huge DA nut, she's played through them over a dozen times (not even joking) and I just got her to try ME and now she's been hooked into playing it this week. She's already finished the first and second game twice and she was waiting on me to finish the third so she can try it.

I feel almost sorry for getting her into ME now, I know she's going to hate this ending. It would be like them patching DA2 to where you are given no choice in stabbing Anders in the neck.

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Why is all i can ask, why would they release the game in this state :\\

THOUSANDS of choices over the previous two games mean NOTHING with the laughable 3 endings we get stuck with, answer me this: What incentive do i have to buy for, or have my friends buy the previous two mass effect games? Your going to lose sales - thousands of sales on game units and DLC because of what i can only think of as a patch and rushed solution to the leaked ending.

I would gladly pay for dlc that adds more endings, though i have to say im really not happy with how this stands, im not going to demand a new ending, if you have any integrity as a company i hope you will adress the concerns of us, your rabid and loyal fans, that you seem to wish only to alienate :(

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The game's conclusion was nonsensical.

I reject it outright, and mentally substitute a more valid ending of my own creation in its place instead.

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I find the end a bit disturbing... the solutions we have just say that synthetics will allways destroy organics... but my shepard have rallied both geth and quarian for exemple, putting end to a long time war between the two races. So what's the point of the Green solution or even the presence of the reapers ? shepard makes organics and synthetics work together and even more : she's bring peace between all races (for a time). Blue solution doesn't seems paragon to me. Red solution is for me, even with a full perfect paragon wallkthrough (Me1/Me2/Me3) the only solution I would take but that implies killing all advanced synthetics (linked to the reaper technology like geth or EDI).

I don't say "I don't like the endings". It's a game, we have the chance to be very listen by bioware and no doubt they've noticed the problem. I just say "I don't understand the endings" there's some explanations needed and if some of you can help me understand it'll be nice !

note : my wallktrough is full paragon : save the concil, all squadmates survives exept Kaidan alenko etc etc... but I just can't choose another solution than red ,and even there I don't understand why other synthetic races must die...

I should go !

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That ending was...insulting. Your choices throughout the game don't matter. At all. For a game series that has sold itself upon the fact that you can make choices. Here, let me read the game's box -- the collector's edition box, which I paid 80 frikkin dollars for, since paying well over $100 for the first two games, the DLC, the novels, the comics, etc...

"Groundbreaking interactive storytelling drives the heart-pounding action in which each decision you make could have devastating and deadly consequences."

Scratch that. Not a single decision you make, in any of the games, has consequences. Nope. The relay network still gets destroyed, demolishing galactic society, and the Normandy with most of the characters you've come to know and love still gets stranded on a planet in the middle of bumfrick nowhere.

This is just...no. I love Mass Effect. This ending is like pouring your heart and soul into a girlfriend or wife, only for here to up and leave you after several years, taking your wallet with her. When the relationship had been great otherwise.

The ending was an insult to its fans. BioWare said f*** you, we're making our own ending regardless of what you tried to accomplish.

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l_dambrun wrote...

I find the end a bit disturbing... the solutions we have just say that synthetics will allways destroy organics... but my shepard have rallied both geth and quarian for exemple, putting end to a long time war between the two races. So what's the point of the Green solution or even the presence of the reapers ? shepard makes organics and synthetics work together and even more : she's bring peace between all races (for a time). Blue solution doesn't seems paragon to me. Red solution is for me, even with a full perfect paragon wallkthrough (Me1/Me2/Me3) the only solution I would take but that implies killing all advanced synthetics (linked to the reaper technology like geth or EDI).

I don't say "I don't like the endings". It's a game, we have the chance to be very listen by bioware and no doubt they've noticed the problem. I just say "I don't understand the endings" there's some explanations needed and if some of you can help me understand it'll be nice !

note : my wallktrough is full paragon : save the concil, all squadmates survives exept Kaidan alenko etc etc... but I just can't choose another solution than red ,and even there I don't understand why other synthetic races must die...

I should go !


its more then disturbing 

bioware needs to do some more calibrations because what they thought was a good ending was just terrible

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J5550123 wrote...

Solo57 wrote...

hey everyone. new here so hi.

i just finished the ending of the game and i just want to be sure about this, and please correc t me if im wrong. no matter what choice between the three at the ending, you die?


Howdy. And from what I've heard, if you get enough war points then Shepard survives in the "Destroy" ending. But even then it doesn't change much, and you only get a short scene for it.


by war poiunts you mean the galaxy at war map? or reputation? i had high military strength, in the 6k, and the galaxy at war was at 93%....so u have to have high reneade ande high war strength to survive? 

i chose the middle, but im disappointed. and is there anything different with the surviving ending?

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Well I can't respond to everyone fast enough cause the site is being slow but I'm not trying to troll anyone. I just got a different opinion. The games barely been out a week and everyone is going into mass hysteria just like they always do. Nobody can be patient and see maybe if Bioware has a plan. They did add a scene where Shepard lives right and is stranded. I don't think they would do that without it meaning something. I loved the ending but I personally believe they are probably working on some sort of expansion.


I'm glad you love the ending, but trust me, not everyone here has been complaining about everything. I never posted on this forum until I beat Mass Effect 3. And I never said I hated Bioware. In fact I love Bioware and the game. The ending was just a let down for me. I'm glad you like the ending, but respect that we don't is all we ask. And you're right, some people are going crazy with the insults and anger, but not all of us are like that.

I understand that people dont like it, I just dont like the way people go about expressing it. Trying to give a low rating on purpose on metacritic and amazon. Like zeros and ones. I mean a zero has to be totally unplayable and straight trash. Like Jekyll and hyde or something. Mass Effect 3 was amazing and 5 minutes doesnt ruin the whole thing. I think people should just wait and see. Casey even said that he knows even though this is the last shepard game that people are gonna want oto step in his or her shoes one last time and he has a plan for that.

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beetlebailey123 wrote...

Lord Hirudo wrote...

TheFinisher wrote...

This may have been mentioned, but does anyone else think that EA may have just rushed Bioware to put the game out sooner than they would have liked? Maybe EA was in such a hurry to profit from this they didn't let them craft an effective ending for the base game. I recall back in late fall it was announced that there would be Hammerhead and Mako missions. There weren't any.

You might have a point.  A lot of this would be solved if one of the writers would actually make a frank public statement as to what did or did not go wrong.

You can't exactly flame the studio you are working for. Unless you are making the battlefield series of course.

God, I just want a statement.  I want some sign of acknowledgment from them.  I realize they might not know just how badly this messed people up, but more and more people are winning it every day, and this problem's just going to grow.

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Holy crap this thread grow by the hour! This time yesterday I saw 717 pages and now its 803? Phenomenal.

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babachewie wrote...

J5550123 wrote...

babachewie wrote...

Well I can't respond to everyone fast enough cause the site is being slow but I'm not trying to troll anyone. I just got a different opinion. The games barely been out a week and everyone is going into mass hysteria just like they always do. Nobody can be patient and see maybe if Bioware has a plan. They did add a scene where Shepard lives right and is stranded. I don't think they would do that without it meaning something. I loved the ending but I personally believe they are probably working on some sort of expansion.


I'm glad you love the ending, but trust me, not everyone here has been complaining about everything. I never posted on this forum until I beat Mass Effect 3. And I never said I hated Bioware. In fact I love Bioware and the game. The ending was just a let down for me. I'm glad you like the ending, but respect that we don't is all we ask. And you're right, some people are going crazy with the insults and anger, but not all of us are like that.

I understand that people dont like it, I just dont like the way people go about expressing it. Trying to give a low rating on purpose on metacritic and amazon. Like zeros and ones. I mean a zero has to be totally unplayable and straight trash. Like Jekyll and hyde or something. Mass Effect 3 was amazing and 5 minutes doesnt ruin the whole thing. I think people should just wait and see. Casey even said that he knows even though this is the last shepard game that people are gonna want oto step in his or her shoes one last time and he has a plan for that.


Well I can understand that definitely. I haven't rated the game on those sites yet, and I probably will when/if they release new endings or an expansion or something. For me, the game is a 10 out of 10, it's just that the ending makes it feel pointless to me. Otherwise it's my favorite game ever.

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Solo57 wrote...

J5550123 wrote...

Solo57 wrote...

hey everyone. new here so hi.

i just finished the ending of the game and i just want to be sure about this, and please correc t me if im wrong. no matter what choice between the three at the ending, you die?


Howdy. And from what I've heard, if you get enough war points then Shepard survives in the "Destroy" ending. But even then it doesn't change much, and you only get a short scene for it.


by war poiunts you mean the galaxy at war map? or reputation? i had high military strength, in the 6k, and the galaxy at war was at 93%....so u have to have high reneade ande high war strength to survive? 

i chose the middle, but im disappointed. and is there anything different with the surviving ending?


Virtually, no. Just a clip of Shepard's chest moving, that's it. No more information is given to you than that.

Be sure to vote: social.bioware.com/633606/polls/28989