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[J5550123]

Solo57 wrote...

J5550123 wrote...

Solo57 wrote...

hey everyone. new here so hi.

i just finished the ending of the game and i just want to be sure about this, and please correc t me if im wrong. no matter what choice between the three at the ending, you die?

Howdy. And from what I've heard, if you get enough war points then Shepard survives in the "Destroy" ending. But even then it doesn't change much, and you only get a short scene for it.

by war poiunts you mean the galaxy at war map? or reputation? i had high military strength, in the 6k, and the galaxy at war was at 93%....so u have to have high reneade ande high war strength to survive? 

i chose the middle, but im disappointed. and is there anything different with the surviving ending?

Honestly, I'm not sure. It's just what I've heard, other people would know better than me. I only beat the game once and I was hurrying so I could see the ending.

[Sterenn]

babachewie wrote... Mass Effect 3 was amazing and 5 minutes doesnt ruin the whole thing

Actually to me, it did. It ruined the whole series. "All this efforts. For this result. Are fracking kidding me?"

[PaladinMesser]

SSV Enterprise wrote...

That ending was...insulting. Your choices throughout the game don't matter. At all. For a game series that has sold itself upon the fact that you can make choices. Here, let me read the game's box -- the collector's edition box, which I paid 80 frikkin dollars for, since paying well over $100 for the first two games, the DLC, the novels, the comics, etc...

"Groundbreaking interactive storytelling drives the heart-pounding action in which each decision you make could have devastating and deadly consequences."

Scratch that. Not a single decision you make, in any of the games, has consequences. Nope. The relay network still gets destroyed, demolishing galactic society, and the Normandy with most of the characters you've come to know and love still gets stranded on a planet in the middle of bumfrick nowhere.

This is just...no. I love Mass Effect. This ending is like pouring your heart and soul into a girlfriend or wife, only for here to up and leave you after several years, taking your wallet with her. When the relationship had been great otherwise.

The ending was an insult to its fans. BioWare said f*** you, we're making our own ending regardless of what you tried to accomplish.

I agree with you, the only decision that matters is the last one, the only thing it even effects is the color of the beam/energy wave. I'm so dissapointed it's just a terrable ennding and they're bascilly all the same except for the color of the beam/energy wave. The thing at the end of the credits was lame like oh 2000 years later, look people are still alive on the planet the Normandy crashed on! SO WHAT!

[Ampmaster]

SkaldFish wrote...

mauro2222 wrote...

babachewie wrote...

Bioware fans....the ultimate snobs. Always think they're entitled to everything,

I wonder if people really knows what "entitlement" means.

Very good point. Saying that someone feels entitled usually means they feel they merit a certain status, privilege, or lifestyle, without having taken any action or made any effort to achieve it, just by having been born. How could this possibly apply to the objections of consumers who have purchased a product they found to be defective?

It's really just a convenient and insulting way to dismiss an opinion by dismissing the person who expresses it.

Damn! Beat me to it. I'm complaining about defective merchandise, if it were a book I'd return it. If it was a car I'd take it back to the dealership and have it repaired. When it comes down to it, NO piece of entertainment in any format should be released and leave you going "Well ****... I need to sit down and write my own epilogue to even vaguely feel satisfied about that." Now I happen to be a decent writer, so I did sit down and write my own damn epilogue. So thanks to that, I feel vaguely better about the whole situation and can accept it, even enough to start another play through or sit down with ME1 but that's not the point, the point is that I shouldn't have to. That I have to means it's broken. Not an ending I don't agree with, but broken. If it was a ending I didn't like that still explained everything, still wrapped everything up then I'd accept it. I'd grumble, maybe **** with my buddies "Yeah that kinda sucked, but it was still a solid wrap up" then sit down and do it again for another ending. I wouldn't go find a forum and express my opinion with a good twenty five thousand other upset human beings who think "Damn this left me depressed, empty and unfulfilled after FIVE years and untold amounts of cash (depending on swag and DLC purchases) devoted to a series I passionately love." and want to do something about it!

and on a side note
@laughing sherpa girl Oohrah! 3rd MAW here.

[FinalEndeavor]

THE_RABID_MOOSE wrote...

Holy crap this thread grow by the hour! This time yesterday I saw 717 pages and now its 803? Phenomenal.

thats because we are all so passionate with the shepard we created and wanted a true end of the triology but were all shafted with the same three choices no matter what you did from day one of mass effect 1 through mass effect 3

[ArmyKnifeX]

PaladinMesser wrote...

SSV Enterprise wrote...

That ending was...insulting. Your choices throughout the game don't matter. At all. For a game series that has sold itself upon the fact that you can make choices. Here, let me read the game's box -- the collector's edition box, which I paid 80 frikkin dollars for, since paying well over $100 for the first two games, the DLC, the novels, the comics, etc...

"Groundbreaking interactive storytelling drives the heart-pounding action in which each decision you make could have devastating and deadly consequences."

Scratch that. Not a single decision you make, in any of the games, has consequences. Nope. The relay network still gets destroyed, demolishing galactic society, and the Normandy with most of the characters you've come to know and love still gets stranded on a planet in the middle of bumfrick nowhere.

This is just...no. I love Mass Effect. This ending is like pouring your heart and soul into a girlfriend or wife, only for here to up and leave you after several years, taking your wallet with her. When the relationship had been great otherwise.

The ending was an insult to its fans. BioWare said f*** you, we're making our own ending regardless of what you tried to accomplish.

I agree with you, the only decision that matters is the last one, the only thing it even effects is the color of the beam/energy wave. I'm so dissapointed it's just a terrable ennding and they're bascilly all the same except for the color of the beam/energy wave. The thing at the end of the credits was lame like oh 2000 years later, look people are still alive on the planet the Normandy crashed on! SO WHAT!

Don't even forget that it was a simple push-button ending to boot. 

[Rob8228]

Lord Hirudo wrote...

beetlebailey123 wrote...

Lord Hirudo wrote...

TheFinisher wrote...

This may have been mentioned, but does anyone else think that EA may have just rushed Bioware to put the game out sooner than they would have liked? Maybe EA was in such a hurry to profit from this they didn't let them craft an effective ending for the base game. I recall back in late fall it was announced that there would be Hammerhead and Mako missions. There weren't any.

You might have a point.  A lot of this would be solved if one of the writers would actually make a frank public statement as to what did or did not go wrong.

You can't exactly flame the studio you are working for. Unless you are making the battlefield series of course.

God, I just want a statement.  I want some sign of acknowledgment from them.  I realize they might not know just how badly this messed people up, but more and more people are winning it every day, and this problem's just going to grow.

@GambleMike: By the way... I am reading all of your thoughts. Just not ready to comment yet. 

I am not sure if that is what you are looking for, but we know they have seen this. I imagine they know they are walking on egg shells here, so they are being very careful with their official statement. This will take some time, unfortunately.

Modifié par Rob8228, 12 mars 2012 - 08:52 .

[justie]

Can you imagine how much **** you would feel like if you were a writer after this poll? http://social.biowar...06/polls/28989/

I would be so sad....

[Wolfgang_Ocelot]

Sterenn wrote...

babachewie wrote... Mass Effect 3 was amazing and 5 minutes doesnt ruin the whole thing

Actually to me, it did. It ruined the whole series. "All this efforts. For this result. Are fracking kidding me?"

I agree with you there, I loved the game up until the last parts of the game. How it felt like what I did it didn't matter. (saved ahsley, the council, everyone survived the suicide mission, reprogrammed geth, got peace between the geth and quarians, etc. etc.)

I mean this series was supposed to be all about how even the small decisions you make affect the galaxy, and they end in a Deus Ex Machina way. It all boiled down to three choices. All of which we're very different from eachother.

[Aiden_Cora]

FinalEndeavor wrote...

THE_RABID_MOOSE wrote...

Holy crap this thread grow by the hour! This time yesterday I saw 717 pages and now its 803? Phenomenal.

thats because we are all so passionate with the shepard we created and wanted a true end of the triology but were all shafted with the same three choices no matter what you did from day one of mass effect 1 through mass effect 3

Exactly that. We all could see how people and aliens around their Shep change, just look at Jack in ME3... This was OUR adventure, WE shaped it through and through.

[IndustrializedTaco]

Rob8228 wrote...

Lord Hirudo wrote...

beetlebailey123 wrote...

Lord Hirudo wrote...

TheFinisher wrote...

This may have been mentioned, but does anyone else think that EA may have just rushed Bioware to put the game out sooner than they would have liked? Maybe EA was in such a hurry to profit from this they didn't let them craft an effective ending for the base game. I recall back in late fall it was announced that there would be Hammerhead and Mako missions. There weren't any.

You might have a point.  A lot of this would be solved if one of the writers would actually make a frank public statement as to what did or did not go wrong.

You can't exactly flame the studio you are working for. Unless you are making the battlefield series of course.

God, I just want a statement.  I want some sign of acknowledgment from them.  I realize they might not know just how badly this messed people up, but more and more people are winning it every day, and this problem's just going to grow.

[/s][/s][/s]@[/s]GambleMike: By the way... I am reading all of your thoughts. Just not ready to comment yet. 
I am not sure if that is what you are looking for, but we know they have seen this. I imagine they know they are walking on egg shells here, so they are being very careful with their official statement. This will take some time, unfortunately.

If they decide to improve in any way the endings, I will be happy. I know it can be done Fallout 3 did it. Here is to hope.

[kramerfan86]

Bob Phalange wrote...

The game's conclusion was nonsensical.

I reject it outright, and mentally substitute a more valid ending of my own creation in its place instead.

This is the path to liberation.

For me personally, AI child space god doesnt exist, the crucible fires as Anderson and Shepard sit there together and have their touching moment.  Either it controls or destroys the reapers (much like you choice with the collector base) and shepard either lives or dies depending on prepardedness.  Galaxy rebuilds, either unified or splintered depending on your choices (what a novel idea your choices effecting the end!) etc etc. 

As far as what the reapers ARE in my own version, I figure at some point in ancient history a species slowly merged synthetic and organic life, eventually it grew out of control and they slowly decided it was their duty to uplift organic races that had reached their apex into the "superior" state of being, so beganeth the cycle.

[Lord Jaric]

I can only see myself playthrough the game to see the different journeys, but not the destination, I don't think I will even be able to do the ending again, I might just shut my console off. Do you have any idea how rare it is for a work of fiction to disappoint me in such a way? It might just be a first.

[FinalEndeavor]

Wolfgang_Ocelot wrote...

Sterenn wrote...

babachewie wrote... Mass Effect 3 was amazing and 5 minutes doesnt ruin the whole thing

Actually to me, it did. It ruined the whole series. "All this efforts. For this result. Are fracking kidding me?"

I agree with you there, I loved the game up until the last parts of the game. How it felt like what I did it didn't matter. (saved ahsley, the council, everyone survived the suicide mission, reprogrammed geth, got peace between the geth and quarians, etc. etc.)

I mean this series was supposed to be all about how even the small decisions you make affect the galaxy, and they end in a Deus Ex Machina way. It all boiled down to three choices. All of which we're very different from eachother.

they may have seen different but no matte what it seem seems like shepard dies regaurdless whe what your choices are....except if you had a high enough galactict rating and war assets with the destroy option. but besides that the entire ending was just a wtf moment. because ever ending seemed the the same 

[laughing sherpa girl]

babachewie wrote...

J5550123 wrote...

babachewie wrote...

Well I can't respond to everyone fast enough cause the site is being slow but I'm not trying to troll anyone. I just got a different opinion. The games barely been out a week and everyone is going into mass hysteria just like they always do. Nobody can be patient and see maybe if Bioware has a plan. They did add a scene where Shepard lives right and is stranded. I don't think they would do that without it meaning something. I loved the ending but I personally believe they are probably working on some sort of expansion.

I'm glad you love the ending, but trust me, not everyone here has been complaining about everything. I never posted on this forum until I beat Mass Effect 3. And I never said I hated Bioware. In fact I love Bioware and the game. The ending was just a let down for me. I'm glad you like the ending, but respect that we don't is all we ask. And you're right, some people are going crazy with the insults and anger, but not all of us are like that.

I understand that people dont like it, I just dont like the way people go about expressing it. Trying to give a low rating on purpose on metacritic and amazon. Like zeros and ones. I mean a zero has to be totally unplayable and straight trash. Like Jekyll and hyde or something. Mass Effect 3 was amazing and 5 minutes doesnt ruin the whole thing. I think people should just wait and see. Casey even said that he knows even though this is the last shepard game that people are gonna want oto step in his or her shoes one last time and he has a plan for that.

You wont find a single person in here saying it deserves a zero or a one. those other people?/ they arent us. We all each and everyone of us agree that up until the last segment with future boy, the game is the greatest we have ever played. But, the progression through the future boy segment, invalidates not only our decisions of the past five years but everything any previous writers were attempting to accomplish as well.. 
For the most of us, ME3 gets a 9/10 for the first 98% of it, but a 0/10 for the last few minutes. Still, for others, those last few minutes are a work of art, but you dont see many of them in here with us. Also, i think we could all agree that the last few minutes were quite artful and creative, but the simply do not work with the complete story arc of mass effect as BW itself has created it over the years, and we arent sure what story those few minutes belong too..

[Rob8228]

beetlebailey123 wrote...

Rob8228 wrote...

Lord Hirudo wrote...

beetlebailey123 wrote...

Lord Hirudo wrote...

TheFinisher wrote...

This may have been mentioned, but does anyone else think that EA may have just rushed Bioware to put the game out sooner than they would have liked? Maybe EA was in such a hurry to profit from this they didn't let them craft an effective ending for the base game. I recall back in late fall it was announced that there would be Hammerhead and Mako missions. There weren't any.

You might have a point.  A lot of this would be solved if one of the writers would actually make a frank public statement as to what did or did not go wrong.

You can't exactly flame the studio you are working for. Unless you are making the battlefield series of course.

God, I just want a statement.  I want some sign of acknowledgment from them.  I realize they might not know just how badly this messed people up, but more and more people are winning it every day, and this problem's just going to grow.

[/s][/s][/s]@[/s]GambleMike: By the way... I am reading all of your thoughts. Just not ready to comment yet. 
I am not sure if that is what you are looking for, but we know they have seen this. I imagine they know they are walking on egg shells here, so they are being very careful with their official statement. This will take some time, unfortunately.

If they decide to improve in any way the endings, I will be happy. I know it can be done Fallout 3 did it. Here is to hope.

Totally agree, I would be amazed if this is what we are stuck with in the end. Whether it was a hallucination, or not complete. I can't believe BW would think this is okay.

[FinalEndeavor]

all i know is untill something official is stated regaurding if this is a true ending....i will believe i was hallucinating the entire ending

[Wolfgang_Ocelot]

Rob8228 wrote...

beetlebailey123 wrote...

Rob8228 wrote...

Lord Hirudo wrote...

beetlebailey123 wrote...

Lord Hirudo wrote...

TheFinisher wrote...

This may have been mentioned, but does anyone else think that EA may have just rushed Bioware to put the game out sooner than they would have liked? Maybe EA was in such a hurry to profit from this they didn't let them craft an effective ending for the base game. I recall back in late fall it was announced that there would be Hammerhead and Mako missions. There weren't any.

You might have a point.  A lot of this would be solved if one of the writers would actually make a frank public statement as to what did or did not go wrong.

You can't exactly flame the studio you are working for. Unless you are making the battlefield series of course.

God, I just want a statement.  I want some sign of acknowledgment from them.  I realize they might not know just how badly this messed people up, but more and more people are winning it every day, and this problem's just going to grow.

[/s][/s][/s]@[/s]GambleMike: By the way... I am reading all of your thoughts. Just not ready to comment yet. 
I am not sure if that is what you are looking for, but we know they have seen this. I imagine they know they are walking on egg shells here, so they are being very careful with their official statement. This will take some time, unfortunately.

If they decide to improve in any way the endings, I will be happy. I know it can be done Fallout 3 did it. Here is to hope.

Totally agree, I would be amazed if this is what we are stuck with in the end. Whether it was a hallucination, or not complete. I can't believe BW would think this is okay.

Agreed, I expected more from bioware. I mean hell ME1 and 2 were great stories, So was jade Empire, Kotor 1, and Dragon age Origins. But I've been sad about the ending to ME3 and DA2. I feel they dropped the ball on both games that had so much more potential.

ME3 had so much potential for an amazing ending, and this sad excuse for an ending just ruined it. To me it would've ben an easy 9-9.5/10 the ending just wrecked it.

Modifié par Wolfgang_Ocelot, 12 mars 2012 - 09:00 .

[WazzuMan]

Throughout the Mass Effect games, I felt like Sheperd was an extension of myself, every decision small or great, every friendship and rivalry. It was a series I enjoyed play to see what happens to every character, friend or foe. But I felt the ending took away their futures and Sheperd's future, despite all they accomplished, all the good they did. They were completely screwed over. Probably didn't help that I learnt all this from a thing posing a child that thought it knew everything.

I thought Mass Effect was among the greatest, most intense games I played until the bloody ending. Everything else was beyond brilliant but that very end after I killed the Illusive Man (which was deeply satisfying).

[JamesYHT]

800 pages, wow, this will be a wild trip.

[JamesYHT]

how is our voting going?

[Rob8228]

Wolfgang_Ocelot wrote...

Agreed, I expected more from bioware. I mean hell ME1 and 2 were great stories, So was jade Empire, Kotor 1, and Dragon age Origins. But I've been sad about the ending to ME3 and DA2. I feel they dropped the ball on both games that had so much more potential.

ME3 had so much potential for an amazing ending, and this sad excuse for an ending just ruined it. To me it would've ben an easy 9-9.5/10 the ending just wrecked it.

For ME3 they dropped the ball and stabbed it, so you can't inflate it again. I refuse to believe this is it.

[Sodrer]

I want a happy ending not that all of them make me very sad even if shepard must die, a happy ending for romance and the rest of the crew... where are my blue childrens!?

[Razith]

JamesYHT wrote...

how is our voting going?

About 23,000

[Darkantem]

My feeling at the end of the game :

Modifié par Darkantem, 12 mars 2012 - 09:04 .