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[Alsuras]

I think the low ratings are pretty easy to understand, personally. I loved every second of Me3 right up to the last few minutes. But those few minutes are enough to have me tell my friends not to play it. The ending, the climax, that's the payoff for the years you've invested into the setting. The hours you've invested into the game. When the ending you get for all of that is so absolutely awful it's just not worth getting into the game for.

The problem is, the ending is objectively poor. It's not just about not liking what happens to Shep or anything like that, it's the fact that it doesn't even make sense. It's nonsense. The god child thing speaks utter bull and uses circular logic that you've disproven personally throughout the game.

So when after clocking up over a day of play time I recieve that as my climax, my payoff for getting the galaxy to unite? Damn right I'd give Me3 a low score and warn people off it. To many it might seem a minor issue, people who enjoyed the journey enough to forgive the destination. And I'd heard all about people hating on the ending before I played. I dismissed it all, went through the game loving it, and even then, prepared for an ending that I may not have "liked" I was utterly blown away by just -how- awful it was.

[ArmyKnifeX]

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[CJMissen]

for all the choice, the last notes of ME3 are so railroadingly similar to each other, that all we see is everything we couldn't change, the destruction of the mass relays and by in large the complete and utter disconnect between everything we've grown to love in this series, splitting everything up, everyone up, seperating Shepard (alive or dead) from those he/she has invested so damn much in makes this games message of being the fulcrum upon which the fate of the galaxy turns, is a soul-shatteringly hollow one.

as fantastically retrospective as the ending may be, and as overreaching and arching it may be, impactful from the good to the bad, the total and utter jarring transition from everything we cared about, to the far far future equates to this transition:
from something that players and viewers have invested so much time, effort and indeed, emotion into.
To something that is completely different to them, in short, you create the effect of not giving a damn about the far future and that was never really the focus of the series in the first place, not to us.

people wanted to know what happened RIGHT after the reapers were defeated, well or not, but not just right after, what happened right afterwards to the PEOPLE, their interactions with everyone, their responses to winning, something they thought never possible, which was built up in all the right ways only to be executed badly. surviving everything, surging through, pushing through all the built up insurmountable odds, forging impossible alliances that suggest at the very least a complete and utter disproval of the circular reasoning of the Catylist, but no, we're handed this ham-handed gilligans isle situation for every character you could potentially care about?

in this case, the ball has more or less been figuratively dropped, and dropped in such a way that the wants and desires of the audience, which should be so damn obvious at this point, are now almost completely out of reach. The game is there to tell a story, and as one of THE BEST RPGs of its time, tell a story that the players want it to take. in short, the game is there, it is built from the ground up to satisfy the needs and wants of those who pay for it.

when I see polls that tell me that 2% - the epitome of an outlier score - actually liked the ending/s best or worse, I see the inordinatly dissatisfied percentage left, and I see that something has gone HORRIBLY wrong.

What happened Bioware? really, what actually happened? You claim to have listened to your fans, seen what they've liked and have delivered in absolutely all aspects BUT the ending of this epic, it should have been utterly impossible for you to not know that you'd royally ****** off so many of your loyal following with this call. Did the accountants take over? (no offence intended to profession) who made that decision? even if they were responsible for all others that paid off, this is a monumental one that has not, and has fallen flat, and done so very hard.

whatever you were trying for in the ending, it simply did not work, at all. you over reached, you tried for too much. all that was really wanted in the end was a closure to all the emotional investment, a way by which people could truly, truly feel that what they did, how hard they pushed, that it all mattered in the end.

Has that not actually been the core feel of this series? that you can make a difference? its not about the grim realities as you see them, its about making your own, defying the damn odds since Saren and the vanguard of Sovereign, to the suicide mission of the collector base, your message has been that there is always a way from what is given, that there is a path that defies expectation, funnily enough, as much as people didn't expect it, it sure as hell wasn't what you railroaded us into.

Figure it out. the official critics may like you, but the players are showing you that by in large, they aren't happy.

I can be damning and critical, but I'm doing this to make you see, you didn't have to do this, and yo don't have to keep doing it.
so do something about it.

[kramerfan86]

Alsuras wrote...

I think the low ratings are pretty easy to understand, personally. I loved every second of Me3 right up to the last few minutes. But those few minutes are enough to have me tell my friends not to play it. The ending, the climax, that's the payoff for the years you've invested into the setting. The hours you've invested into the game. When the ending you get for all of that is so absolutely awful it's just not worth getting into the game for.

The problem is, the ending is objectively poor. It's not just about not liking what happens to Shep or anything like that, it's the fact that it doesn't even make sense. It's nonsense. The god child thing speaks utter bull and uses circular logic that you've disproven personally throughout the game.

So when after clocking up over a day of play time I recieve that as my climax, my payoff for getting the galaxy to unite? Damn right I'd give Me3 a low score and warn people off it. To many it might seem a minor issue, people who enjoyed the journey enough to forgive the destination. And I'd heard all about people hating on the ending before I played. I dismissed it all, went through the game loving it, and even then, prepared for an ending that I may not have "liked" I was utterly blown away by just -how- awful it was.

If I had given a review in the direct aftermath of the ending it would have been more kind.  Now logically after Ive calmed down and chosen to ignore the ending and substitute my own Id give it a solid 9.  Would be a 10 if I didnt have to make up my own ending.  People giving it 1's are just letting the fury over the last thing they saw cloud their opinion.  Its understandable.

[Denethar]

@BioEvilChris During the final run, just before the end, are the two squadmates with you killed? I understand if you can't answer.
Chris Priestly Chris Priestly ‏ @BioEvilChris

@KenRaves I don't think we've revealed that yet. Sorry.

Considering we see those squadmates walk out of Normandy at times, do anyone find that suspicious?

[fpspind]

"We wouldn't do it any other way. How could you go through all three campaigns playing as your Shepard and then be forced into a bespoke ending that everyone gets? But I can't say any more than that..." - Mike Gamble

"Hardest. Day. Ever. Seriously, if you people knew all the stuff we are planning...you'd, we'll - hold onto your copy of me3 forever. " - As above.

Either this is a huge joke, or they planned to DLC proper endings from the beginning (or these posts had nothing to do with any of this). In any case, I am disappoint.

Modifié par fpspind, 12 mars 2012 - 09:26 .

[Alsuras]

kramerfan86 wrote...

Alsuras wrote...

I think the low ratings are pretty easy to understand, personally. I loved every second of Me3 right up to the last few minutes. But those few minutes are enough to have me tell my friends not to play it. The ending, the climax, that's the payoff for the years you've invested into the setting. The hours you've invested into the game. When the ending you get for all of that is so absolutely awful it's just not worth getting into the game for.

The problem is, the ending is objectively poor. It's not just about not liking what happens to Shep or anything like that, it's the fact that it doesn't even make sense. It's nonsense. The god child thing speaks utter bull and uses circular logic that you've disproven personally throughout the game.

So when after clocking up over a day of play time I recieve that as my climax, my payoff for getting the galaxy to unite? Damn right I'd give Me3 a low score and warn people off it. To many it might seem a minor issue, people who enjoyed the journey enough to forgive the destination. And I'd heard all about people hating on the ending before I played. I dismissed it all, went through the game loving it, and even then, prepared for an ending that I may not have "liked" I was utterly blown away by just -how- awful it was.

If I had given a review in the direct aftermath of the ending it would have been more kind.  Now logically after Ive calmed down and chosen to ignore the ending and substitute my own Id give it a solid 9.  Would be a 10 if I didnt have to make up my own ending.  People giving it 1's are just letting the fury over the last thing they saw cloud their opinion.  Its understandable.

I don't know, I think there's a solid argument for the poor reviews beyond just fan anger. Having loved everything but the ending, I'm still inclined to warn people off it. 

[Rob8228]

Denethar wrote...

@BioEvilChris During the final run, just before the end, are the two squadmates with you killed? I understand if you can't answer.
Chris Priestly Chris Priestly ‏ @BioEvilChris

@KenRaves I don't think we've revealed that yet. Sorry.

Considering we see those squadmates walk out of Normandy at times, do anyone find that suspicious?

He's definitely avoids answering on something that should be an easy answer. No doubt there. We are all likely to read too much into it because we are thirsty for information.

However, it's a good sign, and I will take it, but I won't run with it.

[Ikikata]

Denethar wrote...

@BioEvilChris During the final run, just before the end, are the two squadmates with you killed? I understand if you can't answer.
Chris Priestly Chris Priestly ‏ @BioEvilChris

@KenRaves I don't think we've revealed that yet. Sorry.

Considering we see those squadmates walk out of Normandy at times, do anyone find that suspicious?

Does seem to sound more and more like Bioware has this ending inteded for not be the real one. If thats true it's gonna ****** me off that I'll most likely have to buy a DLC or expansion to finish the story.

[babachewie]

laughing sherpa girl wrote...

babachewie wrote...

J5550123 wrote...

babachewie wrote...

Well I can't respond to everyone fast enough cause the site is being slow but I'm not trying to troll anyone. I just got a different opinion. The games barely been out a week and everyone is going into mass hysteria just like they always do. Nobody can be patient and see maybe if Bioware has a plan. They did add a scene where Shepard lives right and is stranded. I don't think they would do that without it meaning something. I loved the ending but I personally believe they are probably working on some sort of expansion.

I'm glad you love the ending, but trust me, not everyone here has been complaining about everything. I never posted on this forum until I beat Mass Effect 3. And I never said I hated Bioware. In fact I love Bioware and the game. The ending was just a let down for me. I'm glad you like the ending, but respect that we don't is all we ask. And you're right, some people are going crazy with the insults and anger, but not all of us are like that.

I understand that people dont like it, I just dont like the way people go about expressing it. Trying to give a low rating on purpose on metacritic and amazon. Like zeros and ones. I mean a zero has to be totally unplayable and straight trash. Like Jekyll and hyde or something. Mass Effect 3 was amazing and 5 minutes doesnt ruin the whole thing. I think people should just wait and see. Casey even said that he knows even though this is the last shepard game that people are gonna want oto step in his or her shoes one last time and he has a plan for that.

You wont find a single person in here saying it deserves a zero or a one. those other people?/ they arent us. We all each and everyone of us agree that up until the last segment with future boy, the game is the greatest we have ever played. But, the progression through the future boy segment, invalidates not only our decisions of the past five years but everything any previous writers were attempting to accomplish as well.. 
For the most of us, ME3 gets a 9/10 for the first 98% of it, but a 0/10 for the last few minutes. Still, for others, those last few minutes are a work of art, but you dont see many of them in here with us. Also, i think we could all agree that the last few minutes were quite artful and creative, but the simply do not work with the complete story arc of mass effect as BW itself has created it over the years, and we arent sure what story those few minutes belong too..

I think the endings had to be some what the same. Mainly because its the end. When they start a new trilogy they would have to pick a new canon and i think they wanted to not have so many choices and people be mad that they didnt pick theirs. The one thing we can expect is the mass relays being gone. I think thats what they really wanted to set up for whatever comes next. I love ME and Commnder Shepard has surpased Solid snake as my favorite VG character of all time. I would of loved to set sail with Ash and spill drinks with garrus and Wrex at the bar on the normandy in victory but we dont always get what we want. Or maybe I will. i dont know. i know they are working on something. you can only hope

[IndustrializedTaco]

kramerfan86 wrote...

Alsuras wrote...

I think the low ratings are pretty easy to understand, personally. I loved every second of Me3 right up to the last few minutes. But those few minutes are enough to have me tell my friends not to play it. The ending, the climax, that's the payoff for the years you've invested into the setting. The hours you've invested into the game. When the ending you get for all of that is so absolutely awful it's just not worth getting into the game for.

The problem is, the ending is objectively poor. It's not just about not liking what happens to Shep or anything like that, it's the fact that it doesn't even make sense. It's nonsense. The god child thing speaks utter bull and uses circular logic that you've disproven personally throughout the game.

So when after clocking up over a day of play time I recieve that as my climax, my payoff for getting the galaxy to unite? Damn right I'd give Me3 a low score and warn people off it. To many it might seem a minor issue, people who enjoyed the journey enough to forgive the destination. And I'd heard all about people hating on the ending before I played. I dismissed it all, went through the game loving it, and even then, prepared for an ending that I may not have "liked" I was utterly blown away by just -how- awful it was.

If I had given a review in the direct aftermath of the ending it would have been more kind.  Now logically after Ive calmed down and chosen to ignore the ending and substitute my own Id give it a solid 9.  Would be a 10 if I didnt have to make up my own ending.  People giving it 1's are just letting the fury over the last thing they saw cloud their opinion.  Its understandable.

The game as a whole was totally AWESOME MIND BLOWING. Then you get to the ending. Me I am very forgiving to Bioware I stated earlier I liked DA2. I am playing multiple playthroughs of the game. I'm just so disappointed that it ended like that. Other than that I really enjoyed the game I give it a perfect 10.

[Rob8228]

Ikikata wrote...

Denethar wrote...

@BioEvilChris During the final run, just before the end, are the two squadmates with you killed? I understand if you can't answer.
Chris Priestly Chris Priestly ‏ @BioEvilChris

@KenRaves I don't think we've revealed that yet. Sorry.

Considering we see those squadmates walk out of Normandy at times, do anyone find that suspicious?

Does seem to sound more and more like Bioware has this ending inteded for not be the real one. If thats true it's gonna ****** me off that I'll most likely have to buy a DLC or expansion to finish the story.

I remember someone said something about "holding your ME3 saves".

Combine that with this, and there is some hope.

[Sodrer]

Without romances/friends, i think the endings are cool...

but with romances the endings are so sad, i dont wanna play another run to cry

[Jetfire99]

Ikikata wrote...

Denethar wrote...

@BioEvilChris During the final run, just before the end, are the two squadmates with you killed? I understand if you can't answer.
Chris Priestly Chris Priestly ‏ @BioEvilChris

@KenRaves I don't think we've revealed that yet. Sorry.

Considering we see those squadmates walk out of Normandy at times, do anyone find that suspicious?

Does seem to sound more and more like Bioware has this ending inteded for not be the real one. If thats true it's gonna ****** me off that I'll most likely have to buy a DLC or expansion to finish the story.

The worst thing is if they do DLC with proper endings we will only prove it was a good tatic if we buy it after this. Which means they will do it again in all likelyhood as it proved protiable.

[Ikikata]

fpspind wrote...

"We wouldn't do it any other way. How could you go through all three campaigns playing as your Shepard and then be forced into a bespoke ending that everyone gets? But I can't say any more than that..." - Mike Gamble

"Hardest. Day. Ever. Seriously, if you people knew all the stuff we are planning...you'd, we'll - hold onto your copy of me3 forever. " - As above.

Either this guy is a huge troll, or they planned to DLC proper endings from the beginning (or these posts had nothing to do with any of this). In any case, I am disappoint.

Gamble later tweeted about his second statement, that he "never mentioned DLC or anything LI related." :/ But yea, whatever Bioware has in store, for they must have something, they better get it out soon.. Or atleast reveal it.

[Rob8228]

Ikikata wrote...

fpspind wrote...

"We wouldn't do it any other way. How could you go through all three campaigns playing as your Shepard and then be forced into a bespoke ending that everyone gets? But I can't say any more than that..." - Mike Gamble

"Hardest. Day. Ever. Seriously, if you people knew all the stuff we are planning...you'd, we'll - hold onto your copy of me3 forever. " - As above.

Either this guy is a huge troll, or they planned to DLC proper endings from the beginning (or these posts had nothing to do with any of this). In any case, I am disappoint.

Gamble later tweeted about his second statement, that he "never mentioned DLC or anything LI related." :/ But yea, whatever Bioware has in store, for they must have something, they better get it out soon.. Or atleast reveal it.

Yeah he retracted it, but I have the feeling he was playing dumb after that for speaking too early. What else would they really be planning that would calm us down?

[laughing sherpa girl]

babachewie wrote...

laughing sherpa girl wrote...

babachewie wrote...

J5550123 wrote...

babachewie wrote...

Well I can't respond to everyone fast enough cause the site is being slow but I'm not trying to troll anyone. I just got a different opinion. The games barely been out a week and everyone is going into mass hysteria just like they always do. Nobody can be patient and see maybe if Bioware has a plan. They did add a scene where Shepard lives right and is stranded. I don't think they would do that without it meaning something. I loved the ending but I personally believe they are probably working on some sort of expansion.

I'm glad you love the ending, but trust me, not everyone here has been complaining about everything. I never posted on this forum until I beat Mass Effect 3. And I never said I hated Bioware. In fact I love Bioware and the game. The ending was just a let down for me. I'm glad you like the ending, but respect that we don't is all we ask. And you're right, some people are going crazy with the insults and anger, but not all of us are like that.

I understand that people dont like it, I just dont like the way people go about expressing it. Trying to give a low rating on purpose on metacritic and amazon. Like zeros and ones. I mean a zero has to be totally unplayable and straight trash. Like Jekyll and hyde or something. Mass Effect 3 was amazing and 5 minutes doesnt ruin the whole thing. I think people should just wait and see. Casey even said that he knows even though this is the last shepard game that people are gonna want oto step in his or her shoes one last time and he has a plan for that.

You wont find a single person in here saying it deserves a zero or a one. those other people?/ they arent us. We all each and everyone of us agree that up until the last segment with future boy, the game is the greatest we have ever played. But, the progression through the future boy segment, invalidates not only our decisions of the past five years but everything any previous writers were attempting to accomplish as well.. 
For the most of us, ME3 gets a 9/10 for the first 98% of it, but a 0/10 for the last few minutes. Still, for others, those last few minutes are a work of art, but you dont see many of them in here with us. Also, i think we could all agree that the last few minutes were quite artful and creative, but the simply do not work with the complete story arc of mass effect as BW itself has created it over the years, and we arent sure what story those few minutes belong too..

I think the endings had to be some what the same. Mainly because its the end. When they start a new trilogy they would have to pick a new canon and i think they wanted to not have so many choices and people be mad that they didnt pick theirs. The one thing we can expect is the mass relays being gone. I think thats what they really wanted to set up for whatever comes next. I love ME and Commnder Shepard has surpased Solid snake as my favorite VG character of all time. I would of loved to set sail with Ash and spill drinks with garrus and Wrex at the bar on the normandy in victory but we dont always get what we want. Or maybe I will. i dont know. i know they are working on something. you can only hope

Agreed, but just as in real life, facing my very own, very real demise, the best i can hope for is to spend my last few minutes with a friend, i believe they should have allowed shepard the dignity of sitting on the floor next to his friend watching the earth as he passed on.

[TobiTobsen]

Rob8228 wrote...

Ikikata wrote...

fpspind wrote...

"We wouldn't do it any other way. How could you go through all three campaigns playing as your Shepard and then be forced into a bespoke ending that everyone gets? But I can't say any more than that..." - Mike Gamble

"Hardest. Day. Ever. Seriously, if you people knew all the stuff we are planning...you'd, we'll - hold onto your copy of me3 forever. " - As above.

Either this guy is a huge troll, or they planned to DLC proper endings from the beginning (or these posts had nothing to do with any of this). In any case, I am disappoint.

Gamble later tweeted about his second statement, that he "never mentioned DLC or anything LI related." :/ But yea, whatever Bioware has in store, for they must have something, they better get it out soon.. Or atleast reveal it.

Yeah he retracted it, but I have the feeling he was playing dumb after that for speaking too early. What else would they really be planning that would calm us down?

Multiplayer Map Packs for everyone!

[IndustrializedTaco]

I have a theory. The launch date was set back WAY in June when E3 was happening. I do believe it is possible that the studio publishing the game pressured them especially near the end when the marketing really started. Maybe if it had been delayed about a month or two we wouldn't have this problem. Then people would be complaining about the release date. A dual edge sword I suppose.

[fpspind]

In relation to current endings:

"But you're taking away our future. Without a future we have no hope. Without hope we may as well be machines".

[Rob8228]

TobiTobsen wrote...

Rob8228 wrote...

Ikikata wrote...

fpspind wrote...

"We wouldn't do it any other way. How could you go through all three campaigns playing as your Shepard and then be forced into a bespoke ending that everyone gets? But I can't say any more than that..." - Mike Gamble

"Hardest. Day. Ever. Seriously, if you people knew all the stuff we are planning...you'd, we'll - hold onto your copy of me3 forever. " - As above.

Either this guy is a huge troll, or they planned to DLC proper endings from the beginning (or these posts had nothing to do with any of this). In any case, I am disappoint.

Gamble later tweeted about his second statement, that he "never mentioned DLC or anything LI related." :/ But yea, whatever Bioware has in store, for they must have something, they better get it out soon.. Or atleast reveal it.

Yeah he retracted it, but I have the feeling he was playing dumb after that for speaking too early. What else would they really be planning that would calm us down?

Multiplayer Map Packs for everyone!

Modifié par Rob8228, 12 mars 2012 - 09:21 .

[Ikikata]

Jetfire99 wrote...

Ikikata wrote...

Denethar wrote...

@BioEvilChris During the final run, just before the end, are the two squadmates with you killed? I understand if you can't answer.
Chris Priestly Chris Priestly ‏ @BioEvilChris

@KenRaves I don't think we've revealed that yet. Sorry.

Considering we see those squadmates walk out of Normandy at times, do anyone find that suspicious?

Does seem to sound more and more like Bioware has this ending inteded for not be the real one. If thats true it's gonna ****** me off that I'll most likely have to buy a DLC or expansion to finish the story.

The worst thing is if they do DLC with proper endings we will only prove it was a good tatic if we buy it after this. Which means they will do it again in all likelyhood as it proved protiable.

I agree. And it's purely out of love for Mass Effect that most of us will probaly buy it. But after that I'll cut my ties with Bioware and EA. So in the long run, they'll lose more money from me

Whatever it's I'm looking forward to it, and not at the same time, I'd be something good, or it'd something really really bad, like a DLC or expansion we have to pay for. And when I think about that I keep thinking "How is gaming gonna be in 10 years?!" We see more cames coming out filled with bugs, or waaaaaaay before its ready these days. We are getting day one DLC thrown in our faces more often and often, or content that is locked on the disc.

And, in the end, this happens because we gamers, well. We love to play games, and are sadly willing to go the extra mile to have a good time. And for this devs and publishers take advantage of us... so very much. It's such a shame to see more and more are doing this. (Note not talking about Bioware and EA only here, but gaming in general)

[IndustrializedTaco]

Rob8228 wrote...

Ikikata wrote...

Denethar wrote...

@BioEvilChris During the final run, just before the end, are the two squadmates with you killed? I understand if you can't answer.
Chris Priestly Chris Priestly ‏ @BioEvilChris

@KenRaves I don't think we've revealed that yet. Sorry.

Considering we see those squadmates walk out of Normandy at times, do anyone find that suspicious?

Does seem to sound more and more like Bioware has this ending inteded for not be the real one. If thats true it's gonna ****** me off that I'll most likely have to buy a DLC or expansion to finish the story.

I remember someone said something about "holding your ME3 saves".

Combine that with this, and there is some hope.

Interesting thought, but what would be the point? I found this a bit annoying. I took James with me on the final mission. When Harbinger shot us with the laser he must of died or been injured. BUT NO here he is on the Normandy not a bloody scratch.

[JamesYHT]

beetlebailey123 wrote...

I have a theory. The launch date was set back WAY in June when E3 was happening. I do believe it is possible that the studio publishing the game pressured them especially near the end when the marketing really started. Maybe if it had been delayed about a month or two we wouldn't have this problem. Then people would be complaining about the release date. A dual edge sword I suppose.

Blizzard delays the launch date all the time, people complain about it but still love it. 

[Rob8228]

beetlebailey123 wrote...

Rob8228 wrote...

Ikikata wrote...

Denethar wrote...

@BioEvilChris During the final run, just before the end, are the two squadmates with you killed? I understand if you can't answer.
Chris Priestly Chris Priestly ‏ @BioEvilChris

@KenRaves I don't think we've revealed that yet. Sorry.

Considering we see those squadmates walk out of Normandy at times, do anyone find that suspicious?

Does seem to sound more and more like Bioware has this ending inteded for not be the real one. If thats true it's gonna ****** me off that I'll most likely have to buy a DLC or expansion to finish the story.

I remember someone said something about "holding your ME3 saves".

Combine that with this, and there is some hope.

Interesting thought, but what would be the point? I found this a bit annoying. I took James with me on the final mission. When Harbinger shot us with the laser he must of died or been injured. BUT NO here he is on the Normandy not a bloody scratch.

Yeah, it's a major plot hole. Did you read the hallucination theories?