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[Hjelsao]

Hmmm. It just occured to me that apparently, Bruce Boxleitner is actually harder than Shepard. Never thought I'd say that. When he was faced with an ancient force coming back to sanctimoniously destroy everyone for their own good, he basically told them to eff off, while Shepard decided there was no reason not to trust the ghostly little punk who'd just told him that the Reapers worked for him.

[Brandonhc]

Hjelsao wrote...

Hmmm. It just occured to me that apparently, Bruce Boxleitner is actually harder than Shepard. Never thought I'd say that. When he was faced with an ancient force coming back to sanctimoniously destroy everyone for their own good, he basically told them to eff off, while Shepard decided there was no reason not to trust the ghostly little punk who'd just told him that the Reapers worked for him.

Yep, completely out of character for every Shepard.

Lay down and take it Shep.

[Ikikata]

Hjelsao wrote...

Hmmm. It just occured to me that apparently, Bruce Boxleitner is actually harder than Shepard. Never thought I'd say that. When he was faced with an ancient force coming back to sanctimoniously destroy everyone for their own good, he basically told them to eff off, while Shepard decided there was no reason not to trust the ghostly little punk who'd just told him that the Reapers worked for him.

This is one of the major things that people have problem with in the whole conversation with Shepard and the God Child. Shepard isn't telling him off in any way, like "Look out there, geth and quarian, synthetic and organic, working along side eachother, after almost 300 years of war!"
Shepard just accepts it outright not matter what, which is why many also thinks he is indoctrinated.

[Darth Malignus]

Well, we we're led to believe we could earn Shepard a cigar, a bottle of Dom and caviar. Instead they served Shep a keg of sewer run-off.

Neat.

And the worst part is that I was psyched to kick some ass. My different Shepards were gonna rip the Reapers, and Harbinger in particular, a whole new set of cavities.

No way I'm gonna complete anything with them now. This game is effectively dead to me in every way.

Modifié par Darth Malignus, 12 mars 2012 - 10:42 .

[Rothgar49]

I've always seen Bioware as sympathetic to their customers and generous to their followers. I really hope something can be done to rewrite this ending. It wasn't something i expected from bioware. I will hold out hope for something official or unofficial that can correct this terrible lapse in judgment.

[laughing sherpa girl]

time for me to head to bed. before i go, a couple past comparisons... They say that imitation is the sincerest form of flattery. I guess Bioware should have hire J Michael Strazinsky..





Hold the line:

[Blazendoge]

Not sure if this has already been said, reading 809 pages will take me days haha, but has it been said that the ending could be both real and hallucinating? Because it feels real up until the point where Shep collapses in the citadel after the Anderson bit. However it feels like he was indoctrinated/hallucinating and conceiving different things throughout the game, (the black edges around the screen etc,the dreams).. Just wondering?.... I know that this is sort of debunked by the 20 second clip of Shep alive at the end though. Just figured it could be a possibility.

p.s hated the ending also, feels unfinished.

Modifié par Blazendoge, 12 mars 2012 - 10:41 .

[Ikikata]

Blazendoge wrote...

Not sure if this has already been said, reading 809 pages will take me days haha, but has it been said that the ending could be both real and hallucinating? Because it feels real up until the point where Shep collapses in the citadel after the Anderson bit. However it feels like he was indoctrinated/hallucinating and conceiving different things throughout the game, (the black edges around the screen etc,the dreams).. Just wondering?.... I know that this is sort of debunked by the 20 second clip of Shep alive at the end though. Just figured it could be a possibility.

p.s hated the ending also, feels unfinished.

Haven't followed all the big theories with hallucination and indoctrination, but it'd be real at some level yes, and Shepard was partly indoctrinated, so the Reapers used this "God Child" as a way to manipulate Shepard into thinking he took action on his own. Remember, the God Child actually likes both the controlling the Reapers solution and the Synthesis, but he makes Destroy sound like an evil thing.

I generally dislike this theory as it'd mean that all that happened was somewhat real and still wouldn't really fix plotholes. So I'm going with it was all a hallucination after he got knocked out

[ArmyKnifeX]

Just found this from the @MassEffect twitter feed:

@skeltz92 We appreciate the feedback. Be advised we are listening and keeping our team very much up-to-date with community concerns.

BTW Sl4sh3r could you add my PAX East group to that? I'm organizing people for some real-life stuff.
http://social.biowar...oup/7049/#group

[Darth Taurus]

Created a topic on the Brazilian players group. Hopefully more 50 people will join the tread and its discussions

[Sl4sh3r]

ArmyKnifeX wrote...

Just found this from the @MassEffect twitter feed:

@skeltz92 We appreciate the feedback. Be advised we are listening and keeping our team very much up-to-date with community concerns.

BTW Sl4sh3r could you add my PAX East group to that? I'm organizing people for some real-life stuff.
http://social.biowar...oup/7049/#group

Done.

http://social.biowar...916/808#9812052

[fpspind]

Another huge flaw with the end that I haven't even seen mentioned. How the (censored) is Shepard even alive to talk to starboy, for starters he was bleeding uncontrollably. BUT WORSE THAN THAT, if you look at the surroundings, he is clearly exposed to space, and yet he is breathing and talking completely fine... If I'm completely wrong here point me out, but this just makes this whole nonsense even more nonsensical.

[ArmyKnifeX]

Sl4sh3r wrote...

ArmyKnifeX wrote...

Just found this from the @MassEffect twitter feed:

@skeltz92 We appreciate the feedback. Be advised we are listening and keeping our team very much up-to-date with community concerns.

BTW Sl4sh3r could you add my PAX East group to that? I'm organizing people for some real-life stuff.
http://social.biowar...oup/7049/#group

Done.

http://social.biowar...916/808#9812052

Thanks a ton

[Jackal7713]

Ikikata wrote...

Blazendoge wrote...

Not sure if this has already been said, reading 809 pages will take me days haha, but has it been said that the ending could be both real and hallucinating? Because it feels real up until the point where Shep collapses in the citadel after the Anderson bit. However it feels like he was indoctrinated/hallucinating and conceiving different things throughout the game, (the black edges around the screen etc,the dreams).. Just wondering?.... I know that this is sort of debunked by the 20 second clip of Shep alive at the end though. Just figured it could be a possibility.

p.s hated the ending also, feels unfinished.

Haven't followed all the big theories with hallucination and indoctrination, but it'd be real at some level yes, and Shepard was partly indoctrinated, so the Reapers used this "God Child" as a way to manipulate Shepard into thinking he took action on his own. Remember, the God Child actually likes both the controlling the Reapers solution and the Synthesis, but he makes Destroy sound like an evil thing.

I generally dislike this theory as it'd mean that all that happened was somewhat real and still wouldn't really fix plotholes. So I'm going with it was all a hallucination after he got knocked out

I haven't followed all the big theories with hallucination and indoctrination either. Are people thinking Shep got indoctrinated from the reaper artifact in Arrival?

[Mhgasa]

Love or hate the endings, there is a dire need for an epilogue that gives some closure to all the unaswered questions we are left with.
What impact did the final choice have on the galaxy?
What were peoples reactions afterwards celebration/sadness?
What happened to the squadmates?
How did the squadmates on earth end up on the normandy?
Why was the normandy running away?
What happened to shepard? especially in the alive ending
What consequences did your choices have for the future galaxy? (geth/genophage etc)

They promised closure, and provided the exact opposite. The big payoff for the entire trilogy was supposed to be the final choice and the epilogue. So i really sincerely hope that they will aknowledge these issues

[Ikikata]

Jackal7713 wrote...

Ikikata wrote...

Blazendoge wrote...

Not sure if this has already been said, reading 809 pages will take me days haha, but has it been said that the ending could be both real and hallucinating? Because it feels real up until the point where Shep collapses in the citadel after the Anderson bit. However it feels like he was indoctrinated/hallucinating and conceiving different things throughout the game, (the black edges around the screen etc,the dreams).. Just wondering?.... I know that this is sort of debunked by the 20 second clip of Shep alive at the end though. Just figured it could be a possibility.

p.s hated the ending also, feels unfinished.

Haven't followed all the big theories with hallucination and indoctrination, but it'd be real at some level yes, and Shepard was partly indoctrinated, so the Reapers used this "God Child" as a way to manipulate Shepard into thinking he took action on his own. Remember, the God Child actually likes both the controlling the Reapers solution and the Synthesis, but he makes Destroy sound like an evil thing.

I generally dislike this theory as it'd mean that all that happened was somewhat real and still wouldn't really fix plotholes. So I'm going with it was all a hallucination after he got knocked out

I haven't followed all the big theories with hallucination and indoctrination either. Are people thinking Shep got indoctrinated from the reaper artifact in Arrival?

Well, he has been in contact with several artifacts over the years, and at the Cerberus base he was close to the human reaper for some time, and was knocked out in front of Harbringer for a fair amount of time aswell. So his chances for not being should actually be slim.

[Darth Taurus]

ArmyKnifeX wrote...

Sl4sh3r wrote...

ArmyKnifeX wrote...

Just found this from the @MassEffect twitter feed:

@skeltz92 We appreciate the feedback. Be advised we are listening and keeping our team very much up-to-date with community concerns.

BTW Sl4sh3r could you add my PAX East group to that? I'm organizing people for some real-life stuff.
http://social.biowar...oup/7049/#group

Done.

http://social.biowar...916/808#9812052

Thanks a ton

Already being part of it!

Modifié par Darth Taurus, 12 mars 2012 - 10:55 .

[IndustrializedTaco]

Jackal7713 wrote...

Ikikata wrote...

Blazendoge wrote...

Not sure if this has already been said, reading 809 pages will take me days haha, but has it been said that the ending could be both real and hallucinating? Because it feels real up until the point where Shep collapses in the citadel after the Anderson bit. However it feels like he was indoctrinated/hallucinating and conceiving different things throughout the game, (the black edges around the screen etc,the dreams).. Just wondering?.... I know that this is sort of debunked by the 20 second clip of Shep alive at the end though. Just figured it could be a possibility.

p.s hated the ending also, feels unfinished.

Haven't followed all the big theories with hallucination and indoctrination, but it'd be real at some level yes, and Shepard was partly indoctrinated, so the Reapers used this "God Child" as a way to manipulate Shepard into thinking he took action on his own. Remember, the God Child actually likes both the controlling the Reapers solution and the Synthesis, but he makes Destroy sound like an evil thing.

I generally dislike this theory as it'd mean that all that happened was somewhat real and still wouldn't really fix plotholes. So I'm going with it was all a hallucination after he got knocked out

I haven't followed all the big theories with hallucination and indoctrination either. Are people thinking Shep got indoctrinated from the reaper artifact in Arrival?

My question is why would you end the game with that? What would be the point?

[DirtyBird627]

Hjelsao wrote...

Hmmm. It just occured to me that apparently, Bruce Boxleitner is actually harder than Shepard. Never thought I'd say that. When he was faced with an ancient force coming back to sanctimoniously destroy everyone for their own good, he basically told them to eff off, while Shepard decided there was no reason not to trust the ghostly little punk who'd just told him that the Reapers worked for him.

Yea I noticed the B5 parallels too, its funny that Sheridan would stand up to the Vorlons and Shadows, yet Shepard is suddenly incapable of standing up to a little boy. It's so out of character for Shepard.

[Darth Taurus]

fpspind wrote...

Another huge flaw with the end that I haven't even seen mentioned. How the (censored) is Shepard even alive to talk to starboy, for starters he was bleeding uncontrollably. BUT WORSE THAN THAT, if you look at the surroundings, he is clearly exposed to space, and yet he is breathing and talking completely fine... If I'm completely wrong here point me out, but this just makes this whole nonsense even more nonsensical.

Harry Potter was helping Bioware to created a bubble to allow shepard do walk and breath

[Ikikata]

Mhgasa wrote...

Love or hate the endings, there is a dire need for an epilogue that gives some closure to all the unaswered questions we are left with.
What impact did the final choice have on the galaxy?
What were peoples reactions afterwards celebration/sadness?
What happened to the squadmates?
How did the squadmates on earth end up on the normandy?
Why was the normandy running away?
What happened to shepard? especially in the alive ending
What consequences did your choices have for the future galaxy? (geth/genophage etc)

They promised closure, and provided the exact opposite. The big payoff for the entire trilogy was supposed to be the final choice and the epilogue. So i really sincerely hope that they will aknowledge these issues

Honestly, an epilogue wont do it for me, the ending is bad and filled with plotholes even an epilogue would have a hard time to fill. Also, the endings are the same besides for the color difference. That's not cool imo a rewrite for whole ending is needed, and an epilogue like in ME2 where we can talk and still have a few dialogue options.

[Rizwane]

Finally completed the game, decided not to read any spoilers because I wanted to see what happened on my own. Can see why everyone is annoyed, including myself. Whether or not Bioware change anything though

[IronDanz]

Im really hoping we get a DLC alternative ending or something, what we were given just leaves a horrible bitter taste in your mouth. Everything else was spot on.

[Scitenik]

"Oh, it won't be that bad," I told myself. "People are just blowing it out of proportion. When I actually get to the ending, it might be bittersweet, but it can't be as bad as everyone is saying."

Whoops! It's even worse than I thought it would be!

Having the ending boil down to "what color do you want the explosion to be?" is just terrible. I wish I could go back in time a few days to when I was still so hopeful and excited about being so close to the end of a fantastic game....so that ten minutes before I reach the end I could take a bat to my computer and tell my past self, "You'll thank me for this someday."

[slipliker]

Mhgasa wrote...

Love or hate the endings, there is a dire need for an epilogue that gives some closure to all the unaswered questions we are left with.
What impact did the final choice have on the galaxy?
What were peoples reactions afterwards celebration/sadness?
What happened to the squadmates?
How did the squadmates on earth end up on the normandy?
Why was the normandy running away?
What happened to shepard? especially in the alive ending
What consequences did your choices have for the future galaxy? (geth/genophage etc)

They promised closure, and provided the exact opposite. The big payoff for the entire trilogy was supposed to be the final choice and the epilogue. So i really sincerely hope that they will aknowledge these issues

Hm. Presenting your questions in this light, and saying that they promised closure, I'd say that I;m starting to believe that all these bulls**t endings was just for trolling and making a dlc or just upsetting people up, so they could all be like "Haha! Of course we couldn't leave you with these crappy endings, here's another one!"