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[Nefelius]

Darth Taurus wrote...

fpspind wrote...

Another huge flaw with the end that I haven't even seen mentioned. How the (censored) is Shepard even alive to talk to starboy, for starters he was bleeding uncontrollably. BUT WORSE THAN THAT, if you look at the surroundings, he is clearly exposed to space, and yet he is breathing and talking completely fine... If I'm completely wrong here point me out, but this just makes this whole nonsense even more nonsensical.

Harry Potter was helping Bioware to created a bubble to allow shepard do walk and breath

Um..it wasn't Shepard... how often do you refer to urself with "The [inser your name here]" ?

[Jackal7713]

Ikikata wrote...

Jackal7713 wrote...

Ikikata wrote...

Blazendoge wrote...

Not sure if this has already been said, reading 809 pages will take me days haha, but has it been said that the ending could be both real and hallucinating? Because it feels real up until the point where Shep collapses in the citadel after the Anderson bit. However it feels like he was indoctrinated/hallucinating and conceiving different things throughout the game, (the black edges around the screen etc,the dreams).. Just wondering?.... I know that this is sort of debunked by the 20 second clip of Shep alive at the end though. Just figured it could be a possibility.

p.s hated the ending also, feels unfinished.

Haven't followed all the big theories with hallucination and indoctrination, but it'd be real at some level yes, and Shepard was partly indoctrinated, so the Reapers used this "God Child" as a way to manipulate Shepard into thinking he took action on his own. Remember, the God Child actually likes both the controlling the Reapers solution and the Synthesis, but he makes Destroy sound like an evil thing.

I generally dislike this theory as it'd mean that all that happened was somewhat real and still wouldn't really fix plotholes. So I'm going with it was all a hallucination after he got knocked out

I haven't followed all the big theories with hallucination and indoctrination either. Are people thinking Shep got indoctrinated from the reaper artifact in Arrival?

Well, he has been in contact with several artifacts over the years, and at the Cerberus base he was close to the human reaper for some time, and was knocked out in front of Harbringer for a fair amount of time aswell. So his chances for not being should actually be slim.

It would make sense. You do see god kid throughout ME3 in visons & dreams. And why would Shep be so fixated on one child? But like you said Ikikata, the plot holes would need to be addressed. Which still means Endings DLC to clean up everything.

[CaptainMonday]

Hello,

I just finished ME3 last night and felt so cheated that I thought I'm gonna break my do-not-rant-on-forums rule for this one. It seams I'm not the only one who thinks the 3 choices at the end were utter bull****.

It's the same thing as with Deus Ex human revolution: if you let us choose an ending at the very end regardless of what we did during the game - it's NOT an ending! (Especially if you can save shortly before the end)

I really can't comprehend why Bioware would pull the last 5 minutes of an epic game out of their ass especially since they did such a great job with ME 1 and 2? None of the things we did in the campaign mattered. So Mordin gave his life to cure the genophage? Whatever, the krogan are all stranded on earth. United the quarians with the geth? So what, it's not like they can go back to their homeworld anyway. Romanced Tali for 2 games? Yea, we got her photo from Getty (sorry, that one wasn't relevant to the ending )

Right now the last 5 minutes of ME3 are one of the most soul-crushing experiences in entertainment, and not in a good way.

And since you can't have a rant without an over-the-top analogy: playing ME3 is like making love to the most beautiful woman in the world and at the end of a very long love-making session, just as you're about to ejaculate, she bites your **** off...


Here's my suggestion to bioware: admit that EA made you rush the game, pick up with Shepard waking up on the citadel after having the most ridiculous vision about some god child and fusing organics with machines all due to blood loss and then make him press the "kill reapers" button, escape the explosion and have a party with his crew. Also, in the end credits I want pictures of Krogans holding babies and quarians rebuilding their homeworld with the geth. peace...

[Bloodleash]

'enuf said.

[Gallion33103]

beetlebailey123 wrote...

Jackal7713 wrote...

Ikikata wrote...

Blazendoge wrote...

Not sure if this has already been said, reading 809 pages will take me days haha, but has it been said that the ending could be both real and hallucinating? Because it feels real up until the point where Shep collapses in the citadel after the Anderson bit. However it feels like he was indoctrinated/hallucinating and conceiving different things throughout the game, (the black edges around the screen etc,the dreams).. Just wondering?.... I know that this is sort of debunked by the 20 second clip of Shep alive at the end though. Just figured it could be a possibility.

p.s hated the ending also, feels unfinished.

Haven't followed all the big theories with hallucination and indoctrination, but it'd be real at some level yes, and Shepard was partly indoctrinated, so the Reapers used this "God Child" as a way to manipulate Shepard into thinking he took action on his own. Remember, the God Child actually likes both the controlling the Reapers solution and the Synthesis, but he makes Destroy sound like an evil thing.

I generally dislike this theory as it'd mean that all that happened was somewhat real and still wouldn't really fix plotholes. So I'm going with it was all a hallucination after he got knocked out

I haven't followed all the big theories with hallucination and indoctrination either. Are people thinking Shep got indoctrinated from the reaper artifact in Arrival?

My question is why would you end the game with that? What would be the point?

Ever since the ideas came out ive been asking myself that question for days now. Ive watched alot of the youtube vids that have people providing very detailed and interesting ideas. However I honestly think they just gave up at the ending...either to finish for launch...or they just really didnt care anymore. I cant really see no other explanation at this time. Even if they did make it a dallas dream sequence (which i joked about in previous posts) its still shocking that the game still ends like it does. Your question comes up to be very valid here...what would be the point actually? Did they actually leave the *actual* ending out because it isnt finished. If thats the case, talk about a quick kick in the quad...*walks away limping*

[Ikikata]

Jackal7713 wrote...

It would make sense. You do see god kid throughout ME3 in visons & dreams. And why would Shep be so fixated on one child? But like you said Ikikata, the plot holes would need to be addressed. Which still means Endings DLC to clean up everything.

Well the kid thing kinda makes sense, the AI probaly knows (every further proof of indoctrination or its a hallucination) that Shepard is haunted by that kids death, so it's using that form in order to manipulate him.

[Trunks Bordare]

Checking in before heading to work. Just one comment about "entitlement." Aren't consumers entitled to a quality product if they're paying for it? We all agree that 99% of the game is phenomenal, but even 1% cyanide put it water makes it undrinkable.

[Gallion33103]

Bloodleash wrote...



'enuf said.

yeah just bookmarked that one...thank you lol

[Ikikata]

Trunks Bordare wrote...

Checking in before heading to work. Just one comment about "entitlement." Aren't consumers entitled to a quality product if they're paying for it? We all agree that 99% of the game is phenomenal, but even 1% cyanide put it water makes it undrinkable.

Words so true. The ending is the most important part of the game, and it has been poisoned, ruining the rest of the game, and the 2 others aswell. Making our choices in the end, not matter at all!

[HonestJoe]

Just finished the game, including the two reloads to see all the endings.

I must say I am seriously disappointed with the ending; it's as bad as Deus Ex: Human revolution.

I was still playing through the game when news of the metacritic review bomb came out. At the time I thought that people were being unreasonable. But now I understand the anger and disappointment being expressed.
The ending soured the entire experience, to the point where it's the only thing I can think about when asked to give my opinion of the game.

This will be the first bioware game I don't immediately replay in order to see what happens with different choices. It's an enjoyable game, but not one I will play to the end again.

[KHReborn]

I had a weird draeam this night. I wanted to make a different ending in the game, but right before I was able to do that i got a critical failure screen and trollfaces were rolling over the screen. I was so shocked that I woke up.

[Darth Taurus]

More sites about us people:

http://gamerant.com/...n-johnj-137926/

http://www.gamepur.c...ng-bioware.html

http://www.escapistm...tainly-spoilers

[Ikikata]

HonestJoe wrote...

Just finished the game, including the two reloads to see all the endings.

I must say I am seriously disappointed with the ending; it's as bad as Deus Ex: Human revolution.

I was still playing through the game when news of the metacritic review bomb came out. At the time I thought that people were being unreasonable. But now I understand the anger and disappointment being expressed.
The ending soured the entire experience, to the point where it's the only thing I can think about when asked to give my opinion of the game.

This will be the first bioware game I don't immediately replay in order to see what happens with different choices. It's an enjoyable game, but not one I will play to the end again.

I do think most of the user reviews on metacritic are out of pure anger towards the ending. The whole game up to before you get knocked out by Harbringer is really really really good, was my favorite of the 3. Then the ending came and ruined it, but it didn't ruin the overall game, just the conclusion to the story, and not giving anyone closure or satisfaction.

Besides that people are angered on the lazy endings with different lights, plotholes and space magic where squad mates teleport to Normandy who for some reason ran from the fight.

[Icinix]

Ikikata wrote...

HonestJoe wrote...

Just finished the game, including the two reloads to see all the endings.

I must say I am seriously disappointed with the ending; it's as bad as Deus Ex: Human revolution.

I was still playing through the game when news of the metacritic review bomb came out. At the time I thought that people were being unreasonable. But now I understand the anger and disappointment being expressed.
The ending soured the entire experience, to the point where it's the only thing I can think about when asked to give my opinion of the game.

This will be the first bioware game I don't immediately replay in order to see what happens with different choices. It's an enjoyable game, but not one I will play to the end again.

I do think most of the user reviews on metacritic are out of pure anger towards the ending. The whole game up to before you get knocked out by Harbringer is really really really good, was my favorite of the 3. Then the ending came and ruined it, but it didn't ruin the overall game, just the conclusion to the story, and not giving anyone closure or satisfaction.

Besides that people are angered on the lazy endings with different lights, plotholes and space magic where squad mates teleport to Normandy who for some reason ran from the fight.

No. There is still the anger towards Day 1 DLC, Sexualisation of an AI, Sexualisation of an existing character, Origin, Multiplayer, Auto-Dialogue and shoddy marketing.

Did I leave anything out?

[Jackal7713]

Ikikata wrote...

Jackal7713 wrote...

It would make sense. You do see god kid throughout ME3 in visons & dreams. And why would Shep be so fixated on one child? But like you said Ikikata, the plot holes would need to be addressed. Which still means Endings DLC to clean up everything.

Well the kid thing kinda makes sense, the AI probaly knows (every further proof of indoctrination or its a hallucination) that Shepard is haunted by that kids death, so it's using that form in order to manipulate him.

If this is the case though, then the real endings are being developed in DLC? And if thats true, the bioware was trolling the fanbase inorder not to give up then DLC agenda. Cause I don't see them just pushing Map packs, etc, as DLC. They would be stupid to go that route with all of us pissed off fans.

[Ikikata]

Icinix wrote...

Ikikata wrote...

HonestJoe wrote...

Just finished the game, including the two reloads to see all the endings.

I must say I am seriously disappointed with the ending; it's as bad as Deus Ex: Human revolution.

I was still playing through the game when news of the metacritic review bomb came out. At the time I thought that people were being unreasonable. But now I understand the anger and disappointment being expressed.
The ending soured the entire experience, to the point where it's the only thing I can think about when asked to give my opinion of the game.

This will be the first bioware game I don't immediately replay in order to see what happens with different choices. It's an enjoyable game, but not one I will play to the end again.

I do think most of the user reviews on metacritic are out of pure anger towards the ending. The whole game up to before you get knocked out by Harbringer is really really really good, was my favorite of the 3. Then the ending came and ruined it, but it didn't ruin the overall game, just the conclusion to the story, and not giving anyone closure or satisfaction.

Besides that people are angered on the lazy endings with different lights, plotholes and space magic where squad mates teleport to Normandy who for some reason ran from the fight.

No. There is still the anger towards Day 1 DLC, Sexualisation of an AI, Sexualisation of an existing character, Origin, Multiplayer, Auto-Dialogue and shoddy marketing.

Did I leave anything out?

You probaly did, there is so much that I doubt anyone can tell them on top on their heads

Also, you'd all vote in this poll here aswell in this article - gamerant.com/mass-effect-3-game-ending-fan-petition-johnj-137926/

[Mydknightcloud]

It's mostly anger toward linear endings that do not reflect choices made over the course of all 3 games. That is something everyone agrees with. The rest is personal preference. 2 cents....

Modifié par Mydknightcloud, 12 mars 2012 - 11:25 .

[thePredator50]

This thread moves so fast I'm not even going to bother asking what I missed while asleep...

[fpspind]

This clip was meant to play when you landed on earth (annotations and all), some mysterious bug must be preventing the game from displaying it properly.



If only....

Modifié par fpspind, 12 mars 2012 - 11:26 .

[Jackal7713]

Gallion33103 wrote...

beetlebailey123 wrote...

Jackal7713 wrote...

Ikikata wrote...

Blazendoge wrote...

Not sure if this has already been said, reading 809 pages will take me days haha, but has it been said that the ending could be both real and hallucinating? Because it feels real up until the point where Shep collapses in the citadel after the Anderson bit. However it feels like he was indoctrinated/hallucinating and conceiving different things throughout the game, (the black edges around the screen etc,the dreams).. Just wondering?.... I know that this is sort of debunked by the 20 second clip of Shep alive at the end though. Just figured it could be a possibility.

p.s hated the ending also, feels unfinished.

Haven't followed all the big theories with hallucination and indoctrination, but it'd be real at some level yes, and Shepard was partly indoctrinated, so the Reapers used this "God Child" as a way to manipulate Shepard into thinking he took action on his own. Remember, the God Child actually likes both the controlling the Reapers solution and the Synthesis, but he makes Destroy sound like an evil thing.

I generally dislike this theory as it'd mean that all that happened was somewhat real and still wouldn't really fix plotholes. So I'm going with it was all a hallucination after he got knocked out

I haven't followed all the big theories with hallucination and indoctrination either. Are people thinking Shep got indoctrinated from the reaper artifact in Arrival?

My question is why would you end the game with that? What would be the point?

Ever since the ideas came out ive been asking myself that question for days now. Ive watched alot of the youtube vids that have people providing very detailed and interesting ideas. However I honestly think they just gave up at the ending...either to finish for launch...or they just really didnt care anymore. I cant really see no other explanation at this time. Even if they did make it a dallas dream sequence (which i joked about in previous posts) its still shocking that the game still ends like it does. Your question comes up to be very valid here...what would be the point actually? Did they actually leave the *actual* ending out because it isnt finished. If thats the case, talk about a quick kick in the quad...*walks away limping*

I'm starting to think it might be a kick to the quad...... *puts up a guard*

[Mydknightcloud]

thePredator50 wrote...

This thread moves so fast I'm not even going to bother asking what I missed while asleep...

I know what you mean, I leave for 30 min and the page numbers go up 12 times

[Yamsandjams]

Well, everything I think about the ending has already been said, but something else occurred to me...

I don't know if anyone's browsed the CE/DDE art collection, but there's an illustration in there with a reaper version of the Illusive Man. The caption says he was, at one point, planned as the final boss, but the idea got scrapped. I'm guessing it would've been comparable to the ME1 end boss. Specifically, it says:

"One of the plans on the drawing board
was to have the Illusive Man turn into
a Reaper creature for the final battle.
Eventually, this plan was scrapped,
since we wanted to give players the
satisfaction of fighting a character they
know rather than a random creature."

They still put the artwork in the book to show it off, even though there's no incarnation of it in the game. The quote itself is also not true as there was no boss fight. I'm not sure why they decided to scrap it anyways in lieu of what the actually implemented. I think it could've been a cool fight, and fitting as well.

So basically...

ME1 Boss: Saren
ME2 Boss: Human Reaper
ME3 Boss: Marauder Weakling

[Darth Malignus]

fpspind wrote...

Another huge flaw with the end that I haven't even seen mentioned. How the (censored) is Shepard even alive to talk to starboy, for starters he was bleeding uncontrollably. BUT WORSE THAN THAT, if you look at the surroundings, he is clearly exposed to space, and yet he is breathing and talking completely fine... If I'm completely wrong here point me out, but this just makes this whole nonsense even more nonsensical.

That would be a mass effect field holding the atmosphere inside. You see it in ME2 as well. The Normandy has a lot of holes into space after the Collector Base attack. Energy fields make sure that you're not blown into space.

[Ikikata]

Jackal7713 wrote...

Ikikata wrote...

Jackal7713 wrote...

It would make sense. You do see god kid throughout ME3 in visons & dreams. And why would Shep be so fixated on one child? But like you said Ikikata, the plot holes would need to be addressed. Which still means Endings DLC to clean up everything.

Well the kid thing kinda makes sense, the AI probaly knows (every further proof of indoctrination or its a hallucination) that Shepard is haunted by that kids death, so it's using that form in order to manipulate him.

If this is the case though, then the real endings are being developed in DLC? And if thats true, the bioware was trolling the fanbase inorder not to give up then DLC agenda. Cause I don't see them just pushing Map packs, etc, as DLC. They would be stupid to go that route with all of us pissed off fans.

The best way I see mappacks being done would be to add them in singleplayer as more side missions like the current one we have, giving players more options to get war assets, that way they can intregrate the maps into singleplayer and multiplayer, not leaving anybody out! 

For me Mass Effect is a singleplayer game before anything, meaning all multiplayer DLC should somehow add to singleplayer. Only ones I could say multiplayer only is ok is more class/race combinations or something (which I hope they don't make!)

[Gallion33103]

thePredator50 wrote...

This thread moves so fast I'm not even going to bother asking what I missed while asleep...

I just skip to the end...lol Hard to catch upon 20+ pages.