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Hahahahaah! :D I love it, same companions I used for the last missions expect I play male Shepard. Is it your work?

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When I saw everyone complaining about the ending, I didn't spoil myself, and thought everyone was moaning for the sake over something little. But this... God, it's such a downer. There are so many loose ends that weren't tied up, fates of individuals that we haven't learnt.

By definition, I think I got the best ending, but it sure as **** doesn't feel that way. While I expected to lose people, and I did, I thought the best would entitle Shepard to live the rest of his days in piece, with those he/she loved.

I threw my Shepard into the beam to unite synthetics and organics, but I'm really regretting that. I'm seriously considering going back and choosing the option where he doesn't die, and I'm assuming the only way to do that is to control the Reapers, because it sounded like destroying them would kill Shepard anyway.

Don't get me wrong, the actual game is amazing, a lot of fun, but these endings... it really sucks it out of that experience, making it all seem for naught.

I guess, at the end of the day, I wanted an ending where Liara and Shepard could've had their little blue children together.

On another note, the squaddies that you take on the charge against Harbinger, do they survive? I think I saw Liara walking out of the Normandy after they crashed, but I'm not sure. Anyone have an answer?


No, destroy is the only option that allows you to survive if you have 5000+ ESM, but God Child makes it sound like it'd kill you because (atleast in most theories) he is just Harbringer or another Reaper trying to control Shepard, so he makes Synthesis and Control Reapers sound like the best choice, while Destroy does the same thing as the others but will kill you and Geth (maybe EDI I dunno)

God Child uses the figure of the child Shepard is haunted of, which also leans towards it might be a hallucination or he is indoctrinated.

Chose Synthesis the first time myself and was very very very unhappy, was like "No way my story ends like that", so I went back and chose the destroy and my Shepard survived that. Though it still pisses my off how out of character Shepard is and totally accepts the only choices he has, because he always do that right? If it's impossible, it's impossible, Shepard can't do the impossible right? I hate that I can't survive without destroying the Geth, my Shepard had always spared the Geth, even in situations where they were close to releasing the Overlord AI, and when they could have wiped out the Quarians, whats the difference now? Why should he falter?
That wasn't my Shepard, and I doubt anyones really at the end.




Wait, so how does Shepard end up dying if you choose to control the Reapers?




Same way as Synthesis, it's just blue. He graps those pillar tingies and starts to disintegrate.

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Rolling Flame wrote...

Ikikata wrote...

Rolling Flame wrote...

When I saw everyone complaining about the ending, I didn't spoil myself, and thought everyone was moaning for the sake over something little. But this... God, it's such a downer. There are so many loose ends that weren't tied up, fates of individuals that we haven't learnt.

By definition, I think I got the best ending, but it sure as **** doesn't feel that way. While I expected to lose people, and I did, I thought the best would entitle Shepard to live the rest of his days in piece, with those he/she loved.

I threw my Shepard into the beam to unite synthetics and organics, but I'm really regretting that. I'm seriously considering going back and choosing the option where he doesn't die, and I'm assuming the only way to do that is to control the Reapers, because it sounded like destroying them would kill Shepard anyway.

Don't get me wrong, the actual game is amazing, a lot of fun, but these endings... it really sucks it out of that experience, making it all seem for naught.

I guess, at the end of the day, I wanted an ending where Liara and Shepard could've had their little blue children together.

On another note, the squaddies that you take on the charge against Harbinger, do they survive? I think I saw Liara walking out of the Normandy after they crashed, but I'm not sure. Anyone have an answer?


No, destroy is the only option that allows you to survive if you have 5000+ ESM, but God Child makes it sound like it'd kill you because (atleast in most theories) he is just Harbringer or another Reaper trying to control Shepard, so he makes Synthesis and Control Reapers sound like the best choice, while Destroy does the same thing as the others but will kill you and Geth (maybe EDI I dunno)

God Child uses the figure of the child Shepard is haunted of, which also leans towards it might be a hallucination or he is indoctrinated.

Chose Synthesis the first time myself and was very very very unhappy, was like "No way my story ends like that", so I went back and chose the destroy and my Shepard survived that. Though it still pisses my off how out of character Shepard is and totally accepts the only choices he has, because he always do that right? If it's impossible, it's impossible, Shepard can't do the impossible right? I hate that I can't survive without destroying the Geth, my Shepard had always spared the Geth, even in situations where they were close to releasing the Overlord AI, and when they could have wiped out the Quarians, whats the difference now? Why should he falter?
That wasn't my Shepard, and I doubt anyones really at the end.




Wait, so how does Shepard end up dying if you choose to control the Reapers?




for some reason he gets electrocuted and turned into ash. how you can control something while being dead, it doesnt explain.

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 Hey, look. TechnologyTell has taken notice of us.

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Ikikata wrote...

lastpatriot wrote...


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Hahahahaah! :D I love it, same companions I used for the last missions expect I play male Shepard. Is it your work?

Super!:P

And I also used those two plus male Shep :)

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Denethar wrote...

Poll has now reached 27275 votes, 2514 comments, 178300 views , with 24 401 of those votes being Ending Sucks and 10% the needs change. 2%, or 656 votes did like the ending.

Vocal minority my ***, this is a complete disaster for Bioware. People forget that video gaming still is a very closed community if you don't count Wii Sports and stuff like that. This WILL have consequences one way or another. There is a reason why Fallout 3 was fixed, they knew that people's opinion matter if they're enough of them.


LMAO. You are so right. The reason those guys wrote negative press about us, saying how we want the endings chanaged, is because they want to be in good standing with BW. If BW links to their site they get more views, more views means more advertising money. For them, its about protecting a pay check.

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Ah, okay, avoiding that then.

Can someone lead me to that poll, I feel the need to add my support.

And I really need to know whether Garrus was killed by Harbinger!! I think I saw Liara at the end, but still!

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The ending just felt detached from the rest of the game. I don't think that the choices in the end were bad per se, but the lack of closure leaves me very sad. For me, synthesis was the only choice, Controlling the Reapers is what TIM wanted, but that's not what my Shepard would do. And destroying all synthetics? I mean, that would pretty much invalidate everything my Shepard stands for, everything he's been doing all game long, trying to resolve conflicts, bringing people together.

And what happens to the characters I've grown so attached to? What happens to Ash? She was heartbroken after losing Shepard in ME2. I can't even imagine how she feels when she steps off the Normandy, what the rest of her life will be like after losing Shepard again. Ash and Shepard saying that they love each other was one of the most beautiful moments in this game for me. And now I'm just hoping that she got pregnant so she has something left, something worth living for. I know there's no hint at it, but I just don't want her to break.

And what about the galaxy? All those millions of crew and infantry stranded in the ruined Sol system? I want to know what happens to all those planets and species we've fought so hard to save and unite. The few quarians and geth who remained on Rannoch are probably the only ones looking at a halfway survivable future. But the rest of the galaxy is in ruins. And did everyone on the Citadel die? What of Ash's sister?

I just... Well... I can't really make anything of this. It just feels empty.

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Denethar wrote...

Poll has now reached 27275 votes, 2514 comments, 178300 views , with 24 401 of those votes being Ending Sucks and 10% the needs change. 2%, or 656 votes did like the ending.

Vocal minority my ***, this is a complete disaster for Bioware. People forget that video gaming still is a very closed community if you don't count Wii Sports and stuff like that. This WILL have consequences one way or another. There is a reason why Fallout 3 was fixed, they knew that people's opinion matter if they're enough of them.




Just amazing we have zero cometn from BW , thats starting to be as dissapointing as teh endings

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Lol I love it!

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I'm guessing i'm in the minority here, but I didn't mind this jessica chobot lady you all speak of... what? did you think I LIKED the ending? Hell no the ending was crap!

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purplehaybusa wrote...

 Hey, look. TechnologyTell has taken notice of us.


Finally someone who actually supports us, a shame they use "rage" in the title though, as it's not really rage. I first started posting here after I had calmed down and was able to express myself in a manner where I be decent. If we just rage for a better ending it'd never happen. :)

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Nice pic, definitely sums eveyone's feelings up. I just have a few questions: how do you have my face code and how did you know what team I used?

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Ikikata wrote...

purplehaybusa wrote...

 Hey, look. TechnologyTell has taken notice of us.


Finally someone who actually supports us, a shame they use "rage" in the title though, as it's not really rage. I first started posting here after I had calmed down and was able to express myself in a manner where I be decent. If we just rage for a better ending it'd never happen. :)


Unfortunately for me I haven't made it past the anger part of the grieving process, so yeah I'm pretty pissed off about it.  That doesn't mean I can't have a civil coversation but f______ a I'm still seething with rage.

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Any reaction of BW yet?

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LoyalHulk wrote...

Ikikata wrote...

purplehaybusa wrote...

 Hey, look. TechnologyTell has taken notice of us.


Finally someone who actually supports us, a shame they use "rage" in the title though, as it's not really rage. I first started posting here after I had calmed down and was able to express myself in a manner where I be decent. If we just rage for a better ending it'd never happen. :)


Unfortunately for me I haven't made it past the anger part of the grieving process, so yeah I'm pretty pissed off about it.  That doesn't mean I can't have a civil coversation but f______ a I'm still seething with rage.


My anger quickly went off, but I was in depression for a while, and still is of course. But not as bad as the initial day of completing it, I was a wreck. Never been so sad about such an ending ever, and not in a good moving way of course. In a way where I was afraid of  never getting the closure I needed with these characters I had grown attached to.

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bpzrn wrote...

Denethar wrote...

Poll has now reached 27275 votes, 2514 comments, 178300 views , with 24 401 of those votes being Ending Sucks and 10% the needs change. 2%, or 656 votes did like the ending.

Vocal minority my ***, this is a complete disaster for Bioware. People forget that video gaming still is a very closed community if you don't count Wii Sports and stuff like that. This WILL have consequences one way or another. There is a reason why Fallout 3 was fixed, they knew that people's opinion matter if they're enough of them.




Just amazing we have zero cometn from BW , thats starting to be as dissapointing as teh endings




they arent ignoring us, just give them some time. Id be surprised if they had already decided what to do, and they probably wont say much before that.

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On a side note, Garrus is the freaking bro of the century.

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Matt_gekko88 wrote...

Any reaction of BW yet?


No reaction yet as far as i know. Guess they really are waiting for the Japaneese release, which is on the 15th, to say anything :(

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Matt_gekko88 wrote...

Any reaction of BW yet?


Nothing directed at our concerns but they did say that they wouldn't talk about the endings until everyone has had a chance to beat the game without being spoiled. So I would expect a reply sometime next week since ME3 doesn't get released in Japan until the 15th.

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purplehaybusa wrote...

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Finally, someone saying the truth! :o 

Kotaku could learn from this article. Kotaku said we were a small group of pissed off fans, I think it would behove him to rethink that conclusion. If not, he might end up looking like  a tool that doesn't know what he's talking about.

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bpzrn wrote...

Denethar wrote...

Poll has now reached 27275 votes, 2514 comments, 178300 views , with 24 401 of those votes being Ending Sucks and 10% the needs change. 2%, or 656 votes did like the ending.

Vocal minority my ***, this is a complete disaster for Bioware. People forget that video gaming still is a very closed community if you don't count Wii Sports and stuff like that. This WILL have consequences one way or another. There is a reason why Fallout 3 was fixed, they knew that people's opinion matter if they're enough of them.




Just amazing we have zero cometn from BW , thats starting to be as dissapointing as teh endings




Remember as well, 25 000.....and the game has been out in Europe for 3 days. Most people haven't even finished the game and we already have this many. I don't think a finishing number of 150 000 is unreasonable, and even if 3,5 million buy the game...it's a scientific fact that over 65%% rarely finish the game they buy. Suddenly the numbers are quite a bit more impressive.

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LoyalHulk wrote...

Ikikata wrote...

purplehaybusa wrote...

 Hey, look. TechnologyTell has taken notice of us.


Finally someone who actually supports us, a shame they use "rage" in the title though, as it's not really rage. I first started posting here after I had calmed down and was able to express myself in a manner where I be decent. If we just rage for a better ending it'd never happen. :)


Unfortunately for me I haven't made it past the anger part of the grieving process, so yeah I'm pretty pissed off about it.  That doesn't mean I can't have a civil coversation but f______ a I'm still seething with rage.


I don't understand how they could not see us. I mean, we are right under their noses, by posting on BSN. You can't get closer (with a group discussion) than here and their fb account. 

On another note, I am so going insane here because of this that I can only dream about ME3. This is getting really creepy...:o

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On a side note, Garrus is the freaking bro of the cycle.


Fixed :D

Garrus and Liara are my favorite companions, they seem the best written, and are just always there for Shepard. Tali aswell, but sadly I can only have 2 people on my team when I go out so I've grown to like these 2 more which is a bit of shame :(

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Blazendoge wrote...

Not sure if this has already been said, reading 809 pages will take me days haha, but has it been said that the ending could be both real and hallucinating? Because it feels real up until the point where Shep collapses in the citadel after the Anderson bit. However it feels like he was indoctrinated/hallucinating and conceiving different things throughout the game, (the black edges around the screen etc,the dreams).. Just wondering?.... I know that this is sort of debunked by the 20 second clip of Shep alive at the end though. Just figured it could be a possibility.

p.s hated the ending also, feels unfinished.


I've been wondering that as well. When I think about that final clip where Shepard lives by taking a breath, I've wondered if that was the point where he/she got knocked unconscious and everything that happened after was all a dream/vision.
Because as some have said if Shep arrived back on earth via the crashed Citadel he/she would be meat and tubes again ( well not tubes but synthetic parts) since reentry would burn him blacker than a match head.His body wasn't further charred his arm looked exactly the same when Harbinger shot him and his team.  Also it looked like he was on/under some rubble on earth itself and not under Citadel rubble.
So I have a hard time believing that he came into earths atmosphere the same skin color(bloodied and bruised though) and injuries  he had when he destroyed the Repears.
It just doesn't add up. 
So if the Sheaprd lives ending was in actuality the point where he was knocked out by Harbinger, and the convo  with Catalyst Kiddo was just a hallucination ( since he had some visions of the kid earlier in the game) that would make more sense imo.
I don't hate Bioware in any means but I KNOW for a fact that they are better than this, and I hope that they see that all the fans don't hate them either but expected better of them.

I love seeing all you guys theories and alternate endings! Goes to show how passionate we are about the game.
Keep it up! Sheaprd would be proud. Also Anderson ... and Hackett...and Garrus... Oh and Wrex... also Tali... and lets not forget.....