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[Nighthunteer]

"You are taking away our future, and without a future we have no hope." - Shepard's words in the ending revels why true fans will never be able to replay ME.

[BalooTheBear]

Nighthunteer wrote...

"You are taking away our future, and without a future we have no hope." - Shepard's words in the ending revels why true fans will never be able to replay ME.

This.

[Ikikata]

tay2208 wrote...

They have completely taken the replay value out of this game.... Actually the whole series. I always replay a game within a day or so of beating it just in case I missed anything. Couldn't do it with ME3, started my 2nd playthrough and 20 minutes into I said to myself "what the h*** is the point? It's all going to end the same crappy way." So I thought I'll replay ME1 and ME2 and guess what... Came to the same conclusion as ME3.... "whats the freaking point!"

Was the same for me. Sadly one of my friends is currently replaying ME1, then 2 and 3 again. He doesn't know the other endings are the exactly same. I tried to warn him, but he is very very spoiler sensitive, he doesn't even wanna talk about ME3 yet because I might have gotten something slighty different than him.
Same time Im looking forward to when he writes to me in rage when he discovers the whole replay was a waste of time ..

[DifferentD17]

Nighthunteer wrote...

"You are taking away our future, and without a future we have no hope." - Shepard's words in the ending revels why true fans will never be able to replay ME.

Wow so true.

[LethesDeep]

Gotta get this off my chest, so just throwing it out there:

I've been sitting here at my computer listening to the ME3 end credits song for the past hour while constantly refreshing this page answering questions, looking for any scrap of info that outside media is supporting us, that sort of thing. And I really don't want to. Why? I just finished college midterms, this is supposed to be my week off to relax! This is the time set aside for me to get together with friends and just chill; just forget life's problems for a while. And here I am defiantly (and rather impotently) shaking my fist at a faceless company that I have loved for 12 years. That's how betrayed I feel - that I would spend most of my down time helping show that BioWare screwed up and that they owe us, well, something.

[wicked_being]

Rdubs wrote...

Here are a couple posts from a Bioware facebook post. It's funny, Bioware puts up yet another puff post about some ME3 gimmick and instead of the usual "Can't wait good job BW!" posts, it just rains people pissed off at the ending.

But here are what they are saying. Anyone know what the heck they are talking about? Surely this isn't the whole "hallucination" or "teach you what indoctrination feels like" ****** camps.

"I get the feeling that if the main theory floating out there is actually true, the lot of you are going to owe Bioware for an apology."

"I was genuinely frustrated with the ending until I realized what you did. Now I feel like I've been a part of one of the most intricate pranks ever conceived. You guys are geniuses!"

Ugh. If those people are part of the BSN...even if the indoctrination theory turns out to be the real thing, we don't owe Bioware an apology. We bought the game at full price, we deserve a full game. Had they told us about "oh don't worry, this isn't the real ending. Be patient", things would be different and the fans wouldn't turn on them as much.

[Lurchibald]

no official words yet, but bioware are willing to post about kai lang eating cereal...? http://social.biowar...index/9792327/1

[Jago360]

Was the same for me. Sadly one of my friends is currently replaying ME1, then 2 and 3 again. He doesn't know the other endings are the exactly same. I tried to warn him, but he is very very spoiler sensitive, he doesn't even wanna talk about ME3 yet because I might have gotten something slighty different than him.
Same time Im looking forward to when he writes to me in rage when he discovers the whole replay was a waste of time ..

Lol, i a have such a friend, too. poor boy, he doesen't know whats gonna happend! im waiting for his call, than we can cry together:crying:

[Jackal7713]

MordiMoro wrote...

"Bioware speaking on Gameinformer: The DLC "From Ashes" is not present on game cd."

for social / petition / etc, Bioware did not say anything...

What can they say the game file is there? Its shown on youtube and reported on by Forbes. Its really bad that a non gaming magazine showing you to be liers.

[aderynbrea]

Jackal7713 wrote...

Matt_gekko88 wrote...

Jackal7713 wrote...

Sterenn wrote...

Mike Gamble tweet he was reading our comments. But no reactions from Bioware officialy.

I sure hope he is reading it. The rage is amost to wild fire proportions.They need damage control now before this really takes off on the social networks. Cause then other media will report on whats happening and at that point you have a whole new set of problems.

The sad thing is: when you look at his Twitter-account, he always gets tweets like "Awesome game dude" and "You did a great job there". Hardly a tweet about the ending.
We all know the game is great but the ending destroys 5 years of gaming-history.

When Forbes is publishing about how your upsetting your fan base, "all the greatgame dude" go out the window. 

If you didn't know Forbes published an article questing Bioware actions toward its fanbase. The article is about  "from the ashes".  However, it questions Biowares approach to its fanbase.

Source : http://www.forbes.co...lready-on-disc/

I left a message on E.D. Kain's facebook asking if he planned to do any coverage on this issue. I'm not sure if he'll respond or not, but it's worth a shot to try if he will. It would boost media coverage, because Forbes is a BIG name in the media.

[nitefyre410]

I have a friend that is playing through and he just stop playing single player after finding out the endings are so bad.

[Rdubs]

It's funny...in ME3 when Shepard talks to that Turian LT who is the big guy's son, you have the option to tell him "it takes a lot of guts to own up to one's mistakes" or something like that. Wouldn't that be funny if Bioware just digs their heels in and tries to pretend like they're nothing wrong and never admits they goofed? Would love to see Shepard's quote juxtaposed against an official Bioware response saying the fans don't get how awesome an ending it is, how ironic that would be.

[Sterenn]

Jago360 wrote...
Lol, i a have such a friend, too. poor boy, he doesen't know whats gonna happend! im waiting for his call, than we can cry together:crying:

My boyfriend's friend too. He was chatting with him yesterday and he was like "so is the end as great as the rest of the game?" What kind of answer can you give...

[MordiMoro]

Jackal7713 wrote...

MordiMoro wrote...

"Bioware speaking on Gameinformer: The DLC "From Ashes" is not present on game cd."

for social / petition / etc, Bioware did not say anything...

What can they say the game file is there? Its shown on youtube and reported on by Forbes. Its really bad that a non gaming magazine showing you to be liers.

Technically Bioware is right ...
Prothean is on the game disk ...DLC (dialogues, mission) no.

[RyanC73]

The main issue with the ending(s) for me is the vagueness. Really, the endings themselves aren't truly bad, but the complete and utter ambiguity throughout the whole last 30 minutes of the games is leading me (and a lot of you) to think "Wait, maybe Shepard dreamt it all after getting hit by the Reaper laser..."

The fact that the child was the catalyst VI was the first thing that made me think that the ending may not be real. It's not knowing whether it was real or not and the complete absence of explanation as to how the catalyst VI took the form of the child; and the fact that Shepard passes out constantly turns the whole ending into an Alan Wake style scenario where we can't tell what is real and what isn't, the difference is that not knowing is the premise to Alan Wake because it is a supernatural horror; Mass Effect is a 'realistic' sci-fi and we need clear-cut explanations for the things in the game, instead its ending became a nothing more than a possible indoctrination/dream sequence.

Quite frustrating. Bioware, please clarify the whole thing.

Modifié par RyanC73, 12 mars 2012 - 01:21 .

[Xellith]

There is no closure

[Nefelius]

KaiserinKai wrote...

Yamsandjams wrote...

Sleeping with Morinth is looking pretty good right about now.

Agreed, Death By Sex > Dying or living at the end of ME 3

Modifié par Nefelius, 12 mars 2012 - 01:20 .

[Jackal7713]

aderynbrea wrote...

Jackal7713 wrote...

Matt_gekko88 wrote...

Jackal7713 wrote...

Sterenn wrote...

Mike Gamble tweet he was reading our comments. But no reactions from Bioware officialy.

I sure hope he is reading it. The rage is amost to wild fire proportions.They need damage control now before this really takes off on the social networks. Cause then other media will report on whats happening and at that point you have a whole new set of problems.

The sad thing is: when you look at his Twitter-account, he always gets tweets like "Awesome game dude" and "You did a great job there". Hardly a tweet about the ending.
We all know the game is great but the ending destroys 5 years of gaming-history.

When Forbes is publishing about how your upsetting your fan base, "all the greatgame dude" go out the window. 

If you didn't know Forbes published an article questing Bioware actions toward its fanbase. The article is about  "from the ashes".  However, it questions Biowares approach to its fanbase.

Source : http://www.forbes.co...lready-on-disc/

I left a message on E.D. Kain's facebook asking if he planned to do any coverage on this issue. I'm not sure if he'll respond or not, but it's worth a shot to try if he will. It would boost media coverage, because Forbes is a BIG name in the media.

It would be a good follow up to the "from the ashes" article.  Its showing more distain for their customers.

[Gallion33103]

Rdubs wrote...

Here are a couple posts from a Bioware facebook post. It's funny, Bioware puts up yet another puff post about some ME3 gimmick and instead of the usual "Can't wait good job BW!" posts, it just rains people pissed off at the ending.

But here are what they are saying. Anyone know what the heck they are talking about? Surely this isn't the whole "hallucination" or "teach you what indoctrination feels like" ****** camps.

"I get the feeling that if the main theory floating out there is actually true, the lot of you are going to owe Bioware for an apology."

"I was genuinely frustrated with the ending until I realized what you did. Now I feel like I've been a part of one of the most intricate pranks ever conceived. You guys are geniuses!"

A apology ehh? lol thats laughable. Even if the whole dream thing is true, they should have put the actual ending into the game anyway not weeks(probable best case scenario) after the fact. I will be damn if i give them a apology for a 80+ dollar game that was unfinished after launch. If anything they are the ones that should be apologizing given they still spew out that "Quality" spiel. Regardless Im pretty sure this is a RPG not a MMO.

[Amratis]

Nighthunteer wrote...

"You are taking away our future, and without a future we have no hope." - Shepard's words in the ending revels why true fans will never be able to replay ME.

So true, so true. 

[Game_Fan_85]

wicked_being wrote...

Ugh. If those people are part of the BSN...even if the indoctrination theory turns out to be the real thing, we don't owe Bioware an apology. We bought the game at full price, we deserve a full game. Had they told us about "oh don't worry, this isn't the real ending. Be patient", things would be different and the fans wouldn't turn on them as much.

Am I the only person that will be even more angry if this is the case?  If that after 5 years of anticipation of finally seeing the series climax and come to a conclusion it turns out they did THAT so that they can sell the *real* ending later?  How the hell can that be justified?  It should have been marketed as such if this is the case.  They kept promoting the game as the epic ending to the trilogy, that is what we should have been given when we paid our money.  If they told us in the begining that it would be a 2 part game, it would be different, they did not.

I bought 3 copies of the CE, I feel so stupid for doing so now.

Modifié par Game_Fan_85, 12 mars 2012 - 01:24 .

[TurambarEA]

I guess I'll come and add my two cents to the enormous thread and echo everyone else's thoughts.

I honestly feel kicked in the guts and stabbed in the back here. Two games. No, two games and 95% of the third, I loved and yet all that love has been rendered to nought due to these completely rubbish endings. What was the point of playing the first two games? What was the point of playing the third? All your choices boil down to affecting your effective military strength only and your EMS doesn't really count for anything in the end does it?

Where were the obvious endings that everyone would have liked?

Paragon ending: 'use the crucible to kill the Reapers' - results in four different choices depending on choices made during all three games, including forces gathered in ME3.

Renegade ending: 'use the Illusive Man's modifications to control the Reapers' - results in four different endings depending on choices made during the past three games and a final choice to turn the Reapers on the other races or not.

Then you get a nice cutscene (that isn't just a matter of a different colour) depending on the choice and a whole lot of epilogue explanation about what each character and species did in the new universe, just like DA:O. But instead my love interest is stranded halfway across the other side of the universe (how did they get off earth and on to the Normandy and through the relay while I was on the ground getting blown up btw?), the Quarians have their home planet back but most of their fleet is in the Sol system and the Krogans, despite being cured, are on Earth - don't think that one is going to work out well for us.

What have you done Bioware? Four and a half years of building to this point for you to introduce 'some Deus Ex Machina kid' in the last ten minutes who gives me three equally rubbish choices. DA2 shook my faith in your story telling ability. ME3 has destroyed it. Who amongst your writers sat down and honestly thought 'our loyal fans, who have bought three games in this series now, are really going to feel satisfied and happy with these endings'. If any of them can honestly say that, then they really have completely lost touch with what makes good story telling.

Are you just angling to sell us an alternative ending DLC? Or did you really just do this to my favourite fiction universe/series of games of all time? No matter which one you pick, I'm disgusting and disappointed beyond words.

[Jackal7713]

MordiMoro wrote...

Jackal7713 wrote...

MordiMoro wrote...

"Bioware speaking on Gameinformer: The DLC "From Ashes" is not present on game cd."

for social / petition / etc, Bioware did not say anything...

What can they say the game file is there? Its shown on youtube and reported on by Forbes. Its really bad that a non gaming magazine showing you to be liers.

Technically Bioware is right ...
Prothean is on the game disk ...DLC (dialogues, mission) no.

If Bioware did nothing wrong there, then why did Forbes publish the article?

[aderynbrea]

Jackal7713 wrote...

aderynbrea wrote...

Jackal7713 wrote...

Matt_gekko88 wrote...

Jackal7713 wrote...

Sterenn wrote...

Mike Gamble tweet he was reading our comments. But no reactions from Bioware officialy.

I sure hope he is reading it. The rage is amost to wild fire proportions.They need damage control now before this really takes off on the social networks. Cause then other media will report on whats happening and at that point you have a whole new set of problems.

The sad thing is: when you look at his Twitter-account, he always gets tweets like "Awesome game dude" and "You did a great job there". Hardly a tweet about the ending.
We all know the game is great but the ending destroys 5 years of gaming-history.

When Forbes is publishing about how your upsetting your fan base, "all the greatgame dude" go out the window. 

If you didn't know Forbes published an article questing Bioware actions toward its fanbase. The article is about  "from the ashes".  However, it questions Biowares approach to its fanbase.

Source : http://www.forbes.co...lready-on-disc/

I left a message on E.D. Kain's facebook asking if he planned to do any coverage on this issue. I'm not sure if he'll respond or not, but it's worth a shot to try if he will. It would boost media coverage, because Forbes is a BIG name in the media.

It would be a good follow up to the "from the ashes" article.  Its showing more distain for their customers.

I'll make a post if I hear back from him. It would be nice to get a follow up, since one of the main themes WAS brand loyalty and the relationship between gamer and dev.

[Denethar]

Has Bioware given up on controlling the forum by now?, Have seen 0 threads locked in the last 36 hours.