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QwibQwib wrote...

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Would be nice if 28954 people would also get it... :lol:

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cantido21 wrote...

I just don't understand why they would do this, even from a financial perspective.  Why would I the player be inclined to buy any DLC when the last usable save is before the last mission?  For what reason on this earth would I put money into a game where I know that regardless it doesn't change the end of it.  In ME2 the dlc fite very nicely into the cannon, it was fun to play both during and after the end of the game.

I had such faith in you Bioware, the endings of the first 2 games (especially 1) would be the sole reason that i would play through it all over again, just to experience the chills of watching Joker and the Normandy scream into battle (which was something else we didn't really get that was very much hinted at in the cinematic trailer).  I'll never forget how friends and I sat around discussing this game and how it would be impossible for them to make additional money on it if they make it so something so terrible happens where you cannot play after the ending.

I will never ever let you fool me again if this is how you build up a game that calculates over 1000 decisions to give everyone a unique play instance.  I'm not jumping on board ever again, I spent too much money buying collector editions and merchandise.  I'm done, enjoy your partnership with EA, you've become the fan hating monster that they are.

I would gladly retract everything if you released a proper ending, one that makes me want to actually play through again (I'm not wasting my time with all the other playthroughs I built up) and did it for free, not a litle text based ending, but one where you haul all the voice actors back in and do it in a whay I can stand up from my chair, arms in the air knowing that the reapers are conquered and I'm heading to Rannoch to help Tali build a house just like her father said he was going to do.  Until then, i'm not buying any stupid DLC, I'm uninstalling this game and heading out to dark space, see you in 50,000 years.

PS - I hope you learned your lesson from letting George Lucas into your studio for 15 min.


I really don't understand either, I almost don't ever want to play it again after the ending.

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LPKerberos wrote...

QwibQwib wrote...

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Would be nice if 28954 people would also get it... :lol:

The most annoying part is that we have to wait to hear her analysis..

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LPKerberos wrote...

QwibQwib wrote...

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Would be nice if 28954 people would also get it... :lol:


Don't listen to her, it's a trap. =]

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My opinion on the endings: I thought it was kinda unfair to judge them ahead of time, out of context, before anyone complaining actually played and finished the game themselves. I have now finally finished my first playthrough, about 3.6k EMS and I have to say:

It was horrible.

EDIT: The game BEFORE the endings, though? Fantastic. It really was great.

Modifié par Loreshield, 12 mars 2012 - 03:21 .


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MrPuschel wrote...

Katsumi Liqueur wrote...

Where can I find the bars to put in my sign?


http://social.biowar...5/index/9762840 


When I was counting
War Assets last time, there was 29K+ and it is only from EARTH :D

#20533
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Darth Taurus wrote...

slipliker wrote...

Bloodleash wrote...

Shepard's reaction to Mass Effect 3 Endings

I don't know why but watching this makes me feel slightly better about the ending.


Lol, the author of this video is a genius indeed, I laughed my ass off :)


LOL LOL


That is perhaps the best bit of machinima I have ever seen.

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cerberus1701 wrote...

mulder1199 wrote...

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I can't take the credit at all, I found a Tumblr post where someone had posted it. The link to the Tumblr post is here: http://allofmyfeels....make-me-calm-my 

I'd post the screenshot that was posted with it but I'm at work at the moment and can't get onto tinypic to upload it, but the screenshot of the 'dev' telling us about the dlc is right there in the link.

What do you think? I'm 99.9% sure it's someone having us on who's is trying their best to sound genuine, but if it's real... you guys, oh my gosh. 

P.S. Sorry I don't know how to do sexy links :(


4chan .... can't decide if I'm :wub: or :sick: because it's either true or not. And it would mean they want to make more money from me instead of giving me the "right" ending right away for the money I already paid them <_<.



Because you WILL pay more for it.

We all know you will, EA included.Image IPB


problem is....unless they announce them all at the same time, or change the order; they aren't going to make a ton of money on the dlc and the rescue probably won't get released


I call, "No."

It doesn't matter how they announce them. In what order they do it. As soon as they announce "Shep lives, come see." you're there.

The notion that you're pushing. That people are so ticked now that they won't be buying the stuff before that that comes out? No.

Maybe not a weapon pack. Maybe not appearance. But the story stuff will sell. And "Shep lives" will sell more.


ah some will, some won't...we are esentially saying the same thing.....i'll buy DLC.....if it changes my chances at the end, or if they announce the rescue DLC....but not before then.....if it doesn't happen ea/bioware will get no money from me again....this may not hold true for some, but i'd imagine the people that buy this are the ones ok with the ending...

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Matt_gekko88 wrote...

LPKerberos wrote...

QwibQwib wrote...

https://twitter.com/...124596996448256


Would be nice if 28954 people would also get it... :lol:


Don't listen to her, it's a trap. =]


Another thing: Is she actually an Bioware employee, or is it just another sum-up about the indoctrination theory we all had years ago from a fan?

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KHReborn wrote...

Selling important parts of the story is bull****. I will never pay money to get the story finished or fixed.

When someone creates a broken product, then the producer has to fix that for free.
You don't buy cars without a steering wheel and you don't pay the repair costs if they car has to be repaired because the sold you a broken one.


Well, that's certainly the right point, but... Given the Mass Effect's circumstances, I think I would've agreed to buy a DLC, and I am sure that the most part of the fans would do that, and Bioware knows it. And still, I would've bought it. This world is a strange place...
Or I wouldn't buy it. just get it somewhere like piratebay and wait untill SOPA and PIPA finds me and send military forces on attack helicopters to wipe me out. lol

Modifié par slipliker, 12 mars 2012 - 03:21 .


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I will pay. I dont like it, but I will. =/

#20538
QwibQwib

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LPKerberos wrote...

Matt_gekko88 wrote...

LPKerberos wrote...

QwibQwib wrote...

https://twitter.com/...124596996448256


Would be nice if 28954 people would also get it... :lol:


Don't listen to her, it's a trap. =]


Another thing: Is she actually an Bioware employee, or is it just another sum-up about the indoctrination theory we all had years ago from a fan?

She's not a Bioware employee, she's a fan like us, she just happens to be a bit famous with Bioware for her cosplays.

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was it the omx article or the gamer rant that gamble was quoted as 'not ready to comment'.....if the screen cap from before is to be belived there is at least 1 million reasons (probably more) to officially announce those 3 dlc's are coming

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Graywolf633 wrote...

So, I hear that they're planning a Romance DLC. A fix for the endings (whether free or not) seems to be still up in the air. Haven't had the time to sift through all these responses.


Except from that 4chan pic that some people circulated, there is nothing like that even being said.

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Have we heard anything from BioWare yet...? If so, could someone PM me what they said? I'm on my iPhone on break at work and don't really have time to try and scroll through looking for the answer... I've started losing sleep over this so I'm feeling even worse now than I did before when I beat it. I thought I'd be feeling better by now...

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QwibQwib wrote...

LPKerberos wrote...

Matt_gekko88 wrote...

LPKerberos wrote...

QwibQwib wrote...

https://twitter.com/...124596996448256


Would be nice if 28954 people would also get it... :lol:


Don't listen to her, it's a trap. =]


Another thing: Is she actually an Bioware employee, or is it just another sum-up about the indoctrination theory we all had years ago from a fan?

She's not a Bioware employee, she's a fan like us, she just happens to be a bit famous with Bioware for her cosplays.


Hm, well. Guess the waiting goes on then. Because I think even she can't grasp fully what's going on if over 20.000 other people were not able to until now, throwing assumptions of indoctrination around. The trauma thing is the most likely. Everything else cannot explain how Shepard survived the crash to earth. Except magic that is.

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If all of you really pay for such a dlc, then brace yourself for the next BW product. It will be a puzzle and you have to pay for every little piece of it... :?

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http://www.forbes.co...-mass-effect-3/

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I might pay if they fix then endings because I have put so much into this series as a player but I would feel like a bad person for letting them take my money. But I would then not buy anymore Bioware games easily. I would have to have proof that there is no B.S. This ending, Dragon Age 2 being half finished, and some of the stories of TOR's customer service (I don't think the game is bad.)

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DifferentD17 wrote...

cantido21 wrote...
I just don't understand why they would do this, even from a financial perspective.  Why would I the player be inclined to buy any DLC when the last usable save is before the last mission?  For what reason on this earth would I put money into a game where I know that regardless it doesn't change the end of it.  In ME2 the dlc fite very nicely into the cannon, it was fun to play both during and after the end of the game.
I had such faith in you Bioware, the endings of the first 2 games (especially 1) would be the sole reason that i would play through it all over again, just to experience the chills of watching Joker and the Normandy scream into battle (which was something else we didn't really get that was very much hinted at in the cinematic trailer).  I'll never forget how friends and I sat around discussing this game and how it would be impossible for them to make additional money on it if they make it so something so terrible happens where you cannot play after the ending.
I will never ever let you fool me again if this is how you build up a game that calculates over 1000 decisions to give everyone a unique play instance.  I'm not jumping on board ever again, I spent too much money buying collector editions and merchandise.  I'm done, enjoy your partnership with EA, you've become the fan hating monster that they are.
I would gladly retract everything if you released a proper ending, one that makes me want to actually play through again (I'm not wasting my time with all the other playthroughs I built up) and did it for free, not a litle text based ending, but one where you haul all the voice actors back in and do it in a whay I can stand up from my chair, arms in the air knowing that the reapers are conquered and I'm heading to Rannoch to help Tali build a house just like her father said he was going to do.  Until then, i'm not buying any stupid DLC, I'm uninstalling this game and heading out to dark space, see you in 50,000 years.
PS - I hope you learned your lesson from letting George Lucas into your studio for 15 min.

I really don't understand either, I almost don't ever want to play it again after the ending.

In my case I haven't even started ME3 yet. I put on my Tali shirt and N7 hoodie  and wore it all week  before release in preparation of this game and was ready to go, but like so many here I just had to know why people were up in arms about the endings, so I read them and I'm glad I did it.  I would of been... well very unpleasant to be around had it came as a surprise and I came here only to find out the truth after beating the game.
Now many are saying everything up to that point is amazing, so that there gives me motivation to start my playthrough, but that voice in the back of my head is saying don't even bother. I'm gonna play it... soon.  
But being on here is way better than what's waiting on that disc :(
I need a hug.

Modifié par Bionic Weapon, 12 mars 2012 - 03:32 .


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LPKerberos wrote...

QwibQwib wrote...

LPKerberos wrote...

Matt_gekko88 wrote...

LPKerberos wrote...

QwibQwib wrote...

https://twitter.com/...124596996448256


Would be nice if 28954 people would also get it... :lol:


Don't listen to her, it's a trap. =]


Another thing: Is she actually an Bioware employee, or is it just another sum-up about the indoctrination theory we all had years ago from a fan?

She's not a Bioware employee, she's a fan like us, she just happens to be a bit famous with Bioware for her cosplays.


Hm, well. Guess the waiting goes on then. Because I think even she can't grasp fully what's going on if over 20.000 other people were not able to until now, throwing assumptions of indoctrination around. The trauma thing is the most likely. Everything else cannot explain how Shepard survived the crash to earth. Except magic that is.

Understandable, only thing I hate about all this, and don't get me wrong, I support this 99%,. The thing I dislike is that there's no respect for devs. and about "demanding" we have no right to demand anything, we have the right to ask and plead.

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cantido21 wrote...

PS - I hope you learned your lesson from letting George Lucas into your studio for 15 min.


First he ruins Indiana Jones, and now he ruins Mass Effect!

THATS IT LUCAS, THIS TIME YOU'VE GONE TOO FAR!

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LPKerberos wrote...

QwibQwib wrote...

LPKerberos wrote...

Matt_gekko88 wrote...

LPKerberos wrote...

QwibQwib wrote...

https://twitter.com/...124596996448256


Would be nice if 28954 people would also get it... :lol:


Don't listen to her, it's a trap. =]


Another thing: Is she actually an Bioware employee, or is it just another sum-up about the indoctrination theory we all had years ago from a fan?

She's not a Bioware employee, she's a fan like us, she just happens to be a bit famous with Bioware for her cosplays.


Hm, well. Guess the waiting goes on then. Because I think even she can't grasp fully what's going on if over 20.000 other people were not able to until now, throwing assumptions of indoctrination around. The trauma thing is the most likely. Everything else cannot explain how Shepard survived the crash to earth. Except magic that is.

SPACE Magic :wizard:

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cerberus1701 wrote...

GroverA125 wrote...

Really though, in essence no matter how many forces you bring with you, or how hard you work to get what you want in the end, you still get the same endings as if you had brought no-one along. No matter what happens, all Mass Relays are gone, your squad (with who you bring mysteriously appearing on the normandy after getting blasted by a laser) is stranded on a tropical planet and nobody gets the ending they want.

Everything we do, everyone we save, has utterly no purpose or meaning in the end, because everyone loses everything anyways, all the effort to do good on rannoch, with the krogans (to give them their future) and all that work around the galaxy, doesn't yield anything other than a "everything you just did has no purpose because they're all going to die" video.

Long term, no option is good, and no option is bad. all three options are a kick in the balls to anyone who likes the franchise, now nothing we did or will do for the last 5 years is gone. There's never going to be a Mass Effect 4, I'll never see the Krogans thrive among the galaxy, the Quarians live in peace on Rannoch, the Turians remain on Palaven in peace, the batarians become a government once again, Aria take back Omega, or anyone ever see each other again in the end. It's not three bad endings, it's three swift and sharp denials of us ever seeing anything we did bear fruit.


First off, they don't all lose everything. The Quarians have a home. The Krogan get to start over. They're NOT all going to die. For a while they are going to be limited to their own cluster.

Most of the races (save, maybe the Krogan) have most likely been studying the Prothean gate on the Citadel since ME1. They made it pretty clear that there were elements of every race that took Shepards warnings seriously. It's
not difficult at all to see each of those races having their own and co-operative "Create a Relay" project.

As for the Normandy? You have no idea where it is, therefore, the only reason it's not within standard FTL reach of *someone* isa because you wanna be bummed out because all the dots weren't connected for you.

At worst, all you can say is that they pulled an X-Men 3...ending it in such a way that, if they ever want to go back to it, post ME 3 that they can make canon whatever they need to.


That's not what I was referring to. We worked hard to get these things done, spending hours, even days (literally) trying to get these things, but we will never see them. The idea of saving the krogan was not just so we could get their forces, but also because we wanted to see a future game where we would see the krogans back up and running. This'll never happen, because they blew such a catastrophic hole in the entire franchise at the end. If we wanted krogan forces, we could have just bluffed, then gotten both the krogan and salarian forces on our side (which still wouldn't change our petty ending options). By saving them, we expected to see something in the future, but we won't. We can't, because they destroyed the future of Mass Effect. A new game would be near-impossible to make, because it would require every choice to be put in, and they did a class-A job of screwing it up.

Long story short: Unless something is done, there will never be a Mass Effect 4 or any kind of future for the franchise (only a past, like the upcoming film occouring prior to the game) so, we'll never see any of the options or hard decisions we made do anything.

Look at like this, here's a list of some of the things:
  • Tali will never get that house on Rannoch, (and if a LI, never see her lover again) and all military forces of the Quarians are trapped nowhere near home.
  • Wrex and most, if not all adult male krogans will never return to Tuchanka
  • Garrus will never see his family again.
  • Virtually all civilians who aren't Quarians or Rachni throughout the galaxy are dead (the few "safe places" like Sanctuary and the Citadel were either traps or were attacked)
  • Two of our squadmates and all of our crew are (in one or more endings) trapped on a planet somewhere, completely isolated from all other people
  • All the people on the citadel are completely dead, everyone one there we cared to help is dead.
  • Each and every mission we performed to help others was for nothing
  • Every single option to be good or bad in ultimatum was for nothing
  • Every second we spent completing side missions in both this game and previous ones were for nothing.
  • Regardless of which ending I choose, all mass relays are destroyed
That's a short list of all the things that happened which we could not avoid, no matter how hard we tried. So tell me, why should I have bothered going back and forth to get things done? I may as well have not bought and of the games, went on the internet and viewed the ending and saved myself a world of stress (just getting the damn game) and a considerable amount of money. nothing I did in-game for the last 5 years was worth anything in the end, because I'd still have a choice between three pathetic, unwanted endings. No matter what, I have to see the entire Franchise wither in front of me, while all I can do is choose how my character should die: disintergrate by controls, jump into a massive laser, or blow myself up.

There were a few things that I could tolerate: The whole day-1 DLC on disk shook my confidence in the game, the horror of the Quarian race being a spitting image of humans hit me pretty bad, but I still had a little faith, but this really just ended it for me. I was forced to watch everything I worked and hoped for be denied. The "good ending" I was promised never showed up, only three equally bad ones that shatter the possibility of a future game. Up until the Cerberus Base, everything was rough, but acceptable, then the game just died, and took a little of my hopes with it. I almost feel betrayed.