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[Anthadlas]

I bet alot of people would be pissed if in the final Harry Potter book it turned out Voldermort was trying to kill all the magic users to prevent them from killing themselves with magic..

[BobbyTheI]

@jeffgerstmann

"All signing a Mass Effect 3 ending petition does is send a message that you care about the universe and are receptive to buying DLC/sequels."

"Somewhere, some dude is a suit is looking at a chart and saying "LOOK AT HOW MANY PEOPLE ARE TALKING ABOUT OUR GAME" and grinning.

Finally, somebody gets it.

[XxSint0rasxX]

Maybe this was already discussed, but did anyone think that what this child is talking about ( synthetics will destroy all organic life if the reapers don't destroy the most advanced organic cultures...) has already been proven wrong? I mean after the quarians and the geth ended the war, the geth helped them to rebuild their homeworld ??? and honestly the geth are the most advanced synthetics in space with their reaper upgrade ... which made them incredible smart, also EDI is the best example why this catalyst child is talking **** ... how in hell could it be possible, that they are able to evolve more than that. They already have emotions like organics.
Which is another point for the endings are sensless -.-

[DifferentD17]

XenoAlbedo wrote...

They make an utterly horrible ending and they're making a character class DLC? Bioware?! What the hell?!

Easy money.

[DifferentD17]

Wraith 02 wrote...

I bet alot of people would be pissed if in the final Harry Potter book it turned out Voldermort was trying to kill all the magic users to prevent them from killing themselves with magic..

ROFL

[Sterenn]

cerberus1701 wrote...
No, they didn't. They might think they did, but that's not the same thing.  It's like fans being ticked that there aren't any Katy Perry-esque candy pop songs on Adele's 21.

It's the story she (and BW) wanted to tell. Feel free to hate it, that's your perogative. But the series was never created to cater to you in the way you and others seem to think.

No more than any author posts chapter one with "Tell me what you want in Chapter 2...then 3...and on."

We did NOT buy a book. We buy the third and last episode of a video game. A story we supposed to have written with OUR Shepard. And even for a book it would be a stupid end. No author with a little of self-estim would come with this kind of end. 

[Yuoaman]

The ending is such a problem, to me at least, because suddenly during the final moments of the series we are expected to empathize with the Reapers. The ****ing Reapers. The beings who've killed countless species over millions of years. There is no way to look at them and think that they can be redeemed - choosing either Control or Synthesis is agreeing on some level that the Catalyst, and by proxy the Reapers, are correct in any way.

**** that.

[Onycha]

I have just finished. What.

No, seriously, what.

I spent all those years, knowing and caring about these characters, and this story, and that, *that* is what happens?

I don't think I even care that the galaxy is buggered at this point. The least Bioware could have done is give Shepard and the crew the dignity of being killed/stranded together. They deserved to be able to face their fate together, as they always have.

[Timerider42]

Somewhat related question: What happened to the 13 million+ people on the Citadel? Did they all die once it unfolded and stopped rotating?

[Anthadlas]

People need to stop comparing video games to films and books, Video games are more interactive and personal than books or films will ever be. Plus with the combined total of my playthroughs it never took me 140 hours to watch a film or read a book

[cerberus1701]

Wraith 02 wrote...

cerberus1701 wrote...

But the series was never created to cater to you in the way you and others seem to think.

That is the most supid comment i have ever heard, The series isn't catered to the people who intend to buy it?

It's not like its a small percentage, pretty much the entire fanbase is pissed about this ending so common logic dictates that something is seriously wrong

Stupid? No.

The series is, in many ways, catered to the people who intend to by it. (i.e. Mako, Mako is disliked. Cut and paste environments for it are disliked, creators try to cater. They try something else.

The narrative isn't.

And it never really was.

[Lurchibald]

cerberus1701 wrote...

Lurchibald wrote...

cerberus1701 wrote...


"obviously by the huge amount of posts far beyond that of normality a lot of people weren't."

And a lot of people are irrational. A lot of people here are ticked for no real reason. They want it all spoonfed to them. They don't realize that:

A) It's basically sufficiently open to build your own ending.

Even if it weren't, this story wasn't about Shepard's buddies making it. Or even him making it.

Just like ending the fifth element when they leave the opera ship is "basically sufficiently open to build your own ending"
or the when Dorithy in the Wizard of OZ meets the professor ending it just as she meets him is "basically sufficiently open to build your own ending" 

Sure. And if Richard Thorpe or Luc Besson wanted to end their films there? You might shake your fist in the air,but that's the story they chose to give you. You may mock it and dreide it, but they aren't going to change it for you.

IF BW bows to the pressure and gives you  a "better" ending, great. But you're not owed one just because you were invested in *their* story and had different expectations.

But unlike them, we were told we would be getting many different endings, so yes, they do *owe* us.

Game Informer wrote...

With the ending in Mass Effect 2, there were so many different variables and possibilities for the outcome and what could happen. As players reached the end, they started comparing notes and trying to figure out how it worked. A few months after it came out, we ran a chart in the magazine that showed the layout of how to get the different endings and how things happened. Is that same type of complexity built into the ending of Mass Effect 3?

Casey Hudson wrote...

Yeah, and I’d say much more so, because we have the ability to build the endings out in a way that we don’t have to worry about eventually tying them back together somewhere. This story arc is coming to an end with this game. That means the endings can be a lot more different. At this point we’re taking into account so many decisions that you’ve made as a player and reflecting a lot of that stuff. It’s not even in any way like the traditional game endings, where you can say how many endings there are or whether you got ending A, B, or C.

It’s more like there are some really obvious things that are different and then lots and lots of smaller things, lots of things about who lives and who dies, civilizations that rose and fell, all the way down to individual characters. That becomes the state of where you left your galaxy. The endings have a lot more sophistication and variety in them. It would be interesting to see if somebody could put together a chart for that. Even with Mass Effect 2’s...

EDIT: Source

Modifié par Lurchibald, 12 mars 2012 - 04:25 .

[Dan Rosse]

Sterenn wrote...

cerberus1701 wrote...
No, they didn't. They might think they did, but that's not the same thing.  It's like fans being ticked that there aren't any Katy Perry-esque candy pop songs on Adele's 21.

It's the story she (and BW) wanted to tell. Feel free to hate it, that's your perogative. But the series was never created to cater to you in the way you and others seem to think.

No more than any author posts chapter one with "Tell me what you want in Chapter 2...then 3...and on."

We did NOT buy a book. We buy the third and last episode of a video game. A story we supposed to have written with OUR Shepard. And even for a book it would be a stupid end. No author with a little of self-estim would come with this kind of end. 

Exactly. So many words about 'making your own Shepard story blah-blah-blah' and then, PUFF, it doesn't even matter in the end. WTH?!

[Timerider42]

Wraith 02 wrote...

I bet alot of people would be pissed if in the final Harry Potter book it turned out Voldermort was trying to kill all the magic users to prevent them from killing themselves with magic..

Can you use the paragon option to get Voldemort to stab himself in the brain with his own wand?

[Yuoaman]

Timerider42 wrote...

Somewhat related question: What happened to the 13 million+ people on the Citadel? Did they all die once it unfolded and stopped rotating?

My guess is that many evacuated when the Reapers began heading their way, and those left are probably... well you probably saw a few of them.

[KaiserinKai]

DifferentD17 wrote...

XenoAlbedo wrote...

They make an utterly horrible ending and they're making a character class DLC? Bioware?! What the hell?!

Easy money.

Not if almost no one buys it. Most of the people who play the Mas Effect series play it for the story, not multiplayer.

They need to release free ending DLC. I mean, they gave us lots of free DLC with Mass Effect 2. So Free DLC is not impossible.

If they released the ending DLC free, many more people would desire to buy all the other DLC.

Because the way things are now, what's the point? You'll get the same crappy ending no matter what you do.

[LostHero2k9]

If you don't know this link already, read this:

arkis.deviantart.com/art/Mass-Effect-3-Alternate-Endings-SPOILERS-289902125

For me this is exactly how ME3 should end... not more, not less.
Bioware! Hire this guy! Release a new Ending based on his writings! You don't even need the speakers to do so. Most of it would be CGI!

Modifié par LostHero2k9, 12 mars 2012 - 04:26 .

[DifferentD17]

Timerider42 wrote...

Somewhat related question: What happened to the 13 million+ people on the Citadel? Did they all die once it unfolded and stopped rotating?

Or when the reapers took it, or when it blows up in the destroy ending.

[Fox544]

What a shame. I was hoping to log on and see that Bioware finally said something but I guess not. I haven't played ME3 since yesterday morning. I had 2 more player throughs planned but that weak ending sucked all want to play out of me.

[lofte_2000]

I would be happy if they just fixed the obvious plot holes, like squadmates teleporting to the normandy, where the fook is the normandy going, Joker just decided to get the hell out of dodge?

I could see my sqaudmates with me when i charged the beam, when you wake up they are no-where to be seen?

If my LI ashley in this case was shown dead by the beam and there was a little mention (sad moment) it would of made it more like vigil in the first game. This would of made it more acceptable that i sacrificed myself on the citadel.... I still feel the ending to the first game was made great by the feeling Vigil passed on about the reapers. Did not have that feeling at all this time around.

[KuceJb]

jinx_60 wrote...

I voiced my discontent about 500 pages ago....what a massive thread!

I bet someone has already brought this up, but 825 pages is a little much to keep up with.
Regarding DLC: It seems pretty clear from Aria's foreshadowing that a DLC to recapture Omega is likely. My question is this: To what end? Omega is a space station, reliant on trade through the mass relays for such basics as food and other supplies. With the mass relays destroyed at the end of the game, Omega is stranded and thus doomed. So why would we care about taking it back from Cerberus?

You might be just as well saving Omega in the meantime while preparing for the final fight, not after the final credits, I guess.

[DifferentD17]

KaiserinKai wrote...

DifferentD17 wrote...

XenoAlbedo wrote...

They make an utterly horrible ending and they're making a character class DLC? Bioware?! What the hell?!

Easy money.

Not if almost no one buys it. Most of the people who play the Mas Effect series play it for the story, not multiplayer.

They need to release free ending DLC. I mean, they gave us lots of free DLC with Mass Effect 2. So Free DLC is not impossible.

If they released the ending DLC free, many more people would desire to buy all the other DLC.

Because the way things are now, what's the point? You'll get the same crappy ending no matter what you do.

They'll make money on the people who liked it, and people who just play it for mulitplayer... which sickens me...

[Anthadlas]

Casey Hudson wrote...

It’s not even in any way like the traditional game endings, where you can say how many endings there are or whether you got ending A, B, or C.

He's right u can't say whether it is A, B or C, you have to use Green, Blue and Red instead.

[Mhgasa]

[quote]Lurchibald wrote...

[quote]cerberus1701 wrote...


"obviously by the huge amount of posts far beyond that of normality a lot of people weren't."

And a lot of people are irrational. A lot of people here are ticked for no real reason. They want it all spoonfed to them. They don't realize that:

A) It's basically sufficiently open to build your own ending.

Even if it weren't, this story wasn't about Shepard's buddies making it. Or even him making it.


[/quote]

Except that this is an interactive rpg, where they push the notion of "choose your own adventure". So your strawman argument about books and movies really doesnt work here. I can respect the fact that you disagree with the people in this post, but calling them irrational makes no sense. If anyhting its rational to complain when you are told one thing but receive something completely different.
It might satisfy you to use your imagination to create an ending, but it certainly doesnt satisfy me. 
 

Modifié par Mhgasa, 12 mars 2012 - 04:29 .