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[Sterenn]

cerberus1701 wrote...
LOL. LIke ANY RPG you're given the "choice" the developers choose to give you.

You were never choosing your own adventure. If you were, I'm sure some would have loved to have seen Saren have his epiphany at the Citadel, survive, and join Shep against the Reapers.

I don't recall that happening.

Or what about your option to give the Collector base to the Alliance?

Oh. Wait.

You are and always have been simply navigating the choice that other people wanted for you. It's like the books that feed you some info, ask you to make a choice, then go to page 126 to see what happens and continue the story. Or not if the zombies get you.

So you're accepting Deus Ex Machina and "shut up, it's (space) magic!" everytime it's used? 

[KaiserinKai]

Lurchibald wrote...

TobiTobsen wrote...

Lurchibald wrote...

Game Informer wrote...

With the ending in Mass Effect 2, there were so many different variables and possibilities for the outcome and what could happen. As players reached the end, they started comparing notes and trying to figure out how it worked. A few months after it came out, we ran a chart in the magazine that showed the layout of how to get the different endings and how things happened. Is that same type of complexity built into the ending of Mass Effect 3?

Casey Hudson wrote...

Yeah, and I’d say much more so, because we have the ability to build the endings out in a way that we don’t have to worry about eventually tying them back together somewhere. This story arc is coming to an end with this game. That means the endings can be a lot more different. At this point we’re taking into account so many decisions that you’ve made as a player and reflecting a lot of that stuff. It’s not even in any way like the traditional game endings, where you can say how many endings there are or whether you got ending A, B, or C.

It’s more like there are some really obvious things that are different and then lots and lots of smaller things, lots of things about who lives and who dies, civilizations that rose and fell, all the way down to individual characters. That becomes the state of where you left your galaxy. The endings have a lot more sophistication and variety in them. It would be interesting to see if somebody could put together a chart for that. Even with Mass Effect 2’s...

EDIT: Source

It's really bad to look back, read all those promises and than see what they actually did.

That is from Janurary of this year, not enough time at all to re-record and change things so it's not exactly pre-development talk....

Agreed, this is just making me more depressed.

Bioware should be taken to court for false advertising.

[cerberus1701]

"Everyone, don't feed the Troll"

I'm not trolling.

Forgive me for not being able to comprehend 828 pages of:



@ 0:16

[Yuoaman]

KaiserinKai wrote...

Yuoaman wrote...

Yeah, we didn't choose endings A, B, or C. ME3's had better names.

Red, Blue, or Green.

Or, if you were unlucky and had the colors glitch: Blue and What Was on The Right Again?

[rethas]

KaiserinKai wrote...

cerberus1701 wrote...

Mhgasa wrote...

Mhgasa wrote...

cerberus1701 wrote...


"obviously by the huge amount of posts far beyond that of normality a lot of people weren't."

And a lot of people are irrational. A lot of people here are ticked for no real reason. They want it all spoonfed to them. They don't realize that:

A) It's basically sufficiently open to build your own ending.

Even if it weren't, this story wasn't about Shepard's buddies making it. Or even him making it.

Except that this is an interactive rpg, where they push the notion of "choose your own adventure". So your strawman argument about books and movies really doesnt work here. I can respect the fact that you disagree with the people in this post, but calling them irrational makes no sense. If anyhting its rational to complain when you are told one thing but receive something completely different.
It might satisfy you to use your imagination to create an ending, but it certainly doesnt satisfy me. 
 

LOL. LIke ANY RPG you're given the "choice" the developers choose to give you.

You were never choosing your own adventure. If you were, I'm sure some would have loved to have seen Saren have his epiphany at the Citadel, survive, and join Shep against the Reapers.

I don't recall that happening.

Or what about your option to give the Collector base to the Alliance?

Oh. Wait.

You are and always have been simply navigating the choice that other people wanted for you. It's like the books that feed you some info, ask you to make a choice, then go to page 126 to see what happens and continue the story. Or not if the zombies get you.

Everyone, don't feed the Troll.

Go back about 10 pages, I basically had the same discussion with him.

I accept his viewpoint as someone else stated, yet he wishes to argue and belittle the views and opinions of others.

So yes, don't feed the troll.

[Sterenn]

cerberus1701 wrote...

"Everyone, don't feed the Troll"

I'm not trolling.

Forgive me for not being able to comprehend 828 pages of:



@ 0:16

So because we don't agree with you we are selfish. Nice to debate with you really... 

Modifié par Sterenn, 12 mars 2012 - 04:47 .

[Toby Shepard]

cerberus1701 wrote...

PS: Katy Perry vs Adele? Barely a difference.

Bwahahahahahahahahahahaha.

You're funny.

Unless you're serious.


Then you're just sad.

I get the feeling I overestimated you.
Both artists use very simple chords in their music a billion of musicians have used before, both artists have easy to understand songtexts everyone can relate to - you just happen to feel more mature while listening to Adele.

[XxSint0rasxX]

LostHero2k9 wrote...

If you don't know this link already, read this:

arkis.deviantart.com/art/Mass-Effect-3-Alternate-Endings-SPOILERS-289902125

For me this is exactly how ME3 should end... not more, not less.
Bioware! Hire this guy! Release a new Ending based on his writings! You don't even need the speakers to do so. Most of it would be CGI!

this is fu***** awesome, thanks for posting this, from now on this will be the ending for me :-P 

[snakesalvation]

I'm not one for gamer entitlement - I never have - but ME3 is the exception. We've all spent countless hours through countless playthroughs crafting our Shepards to our own personalities and moral values and in the climax of it all, in the final moments, everything we've done and the relationships we've built end up being for nought and we're shoe-horned into an ending that doesn't satisfy anyone except MAYBE the folks who are just jumping into the series.

Who is the ending for? It's not for BioWare fans. It's not for Sci-Fi fans. It's certainly not for Mass Effect fans.

Don't get me wrong - I think ME3 might the best experience I've ever had in a video game. It's really incredible; but the ending is unacceptable. It's not a reward for loyalists, that's for sure.

I can appreciate what they tried to, but it's so riddled with plot-holes and a severe lack of closure that I ended up scratching my head in disappointment. I'm not even mad at the ending. I'm more dumbfounded, if anything. 

Modifié par snakesalvation, 12 mars 2012 - 04:50 .

[cerberus1701]

Sterenn wrote...

cerberus1701 wrote...
LOL. LIke ANY RPG you're given the "choice" the developers choose to give you.

You were never choosing your own adventure. If you were, I'm sure some would have loved to have seen Saren have his epiphany at the Citadel, survive, and join Shep against the Reapers.

I don't recall that happening.

Or what about your option to give the Collector base to the Alliance?

Oh. Wait.

You are and always have been simply navigating the choice that other people wanted for you. It's like the books that feed you some info, ask you to make a choice, then go to page 126 to see what happens and continue the story. Or not if the zombies get you.

So you're accepting Deus Ex Machina and "shut up, it's (space) magic!" everytime it's used? 

Not at all. Don't like it?

Say so.

Keep saying so and maybe they'll change it.

But you're not owed it because of your financial or emotional investment.

[Anthadlas]

cerberus1701 wrote...

"Everyone, don't feed the Troll"

I'm not trolling.

Forgive me for not being able to comprehend 828 pages of:



@ 0:16

Fine we get it, you believe your opinion is the only correct one possible. Now why don't you leave instead of trying to force it down out throats?

[DifferentD17]

XxSint0rasxX wrote...

LostHero2k9 wrote...

If you don't know this link already, read this:

arkis.deviantart.com/art/Mass-Effect-3-Alternate-Endings-SPOILERS-289902125

For me this is exactly how ME3 should end... not more, not less.
Bioware! Hire this guy! Release a new Ending based on his writings! You don't even need the speakers to do so. Most of it would be CGI!

this is fu***** awesome, thanks for posting this, from now on this will be the ending for me :-P 

That was what everyone was expecting right?

[Sterenn]

cerberus1701 wrote...
Not at all. Don't like it?

Say so.

Keep saying so and maybe they'll change it.

But you're not owed it because of your financial or emotional investment.

I have the right to think that this end it's stealing people money. I have the right to think because of my investment in this GAME and after the promises they made, they can't moke theirs customers and fans like this... And I have the right to say it. 

But I understand I should bend the knee before you and your "oh-so great mind". Cynical me? Not at all...

Modifié par Sterenn, 12 mars 2012 - 04:52 .

[d-boy15]

At least in shepard alive ending, they should gives us something like this instead of breath.

[Anthadlas]

zoider16 wrote...

Anyone else noticed the potential trouble brewing on the facebook campaign page? They are taking a poll on why the group creator is asking for donations, the majority of people are saying they don't know why but they don't like it. They states in the post about phase two that they are asking for small donations to setup a website (not saying whether I agree or disagree about that) not sure if people don't believe it or they have not read what was said.

Do any of you think this might cause problems for the campaign? I mean do you think there is a chance that people will lose their unity and become divided over what their asking donations for?

Yeah just ignore him, seems like he's trying to profiteer from a bad situation

[AartB]

i dont think the unity will be lost. we all have different views of how the game should have ended but we all agree on one thing: the way it did is unacceptable.

[k8ee]

The lameness of all of this is that it would have been SO EASY to make a good ending.

Have Shep fight the illusive man, then have Shep fight Harbinger, then have Shep set off the damn crucible that destroys the reapers. With high enough EMS Shep is rescued by the Normandy, otherwise he/she gives their life for the galaxy. Cut scenes shown after show results of your decisions during the game.

IT WOULD HAVE BEEN SO EASY. WTF

Modifié par k8ee, 12 mars 2012 - 04:54 .

[Geezorbee]

Did anyone else think that destroying the mass relays destroys EVERY system in them as well? As you see in Arrival DLC. And that cannot be changed, meaning no matter what ending you choose, you brought every fleet in the galaxy to help you, only to kill them yourself in one spot? While the Normandy probably being the only ship left 'alive'?

[WvStolzing]

DifferentD17 wrote...

I almost wish ME3 stopped right before the ending.

That's what I did in my playthrough. I know all about the ending, but at least I didn't get to see it in-game.

[Anthadlas]

k8ee wrote...

The lameness of all of this is that it would have been SO EASY to make a good ending.

Have Shep fight the illusive man, then have Shep fight Harbinger, then have Shep set off the damn crucible that destroys the reapers. With high enough EMS Shep is rescued by the Normandy, otherwise he/she gives their life for the galaxy. Cut scenes shown after show results of your decisions during the game.

IT WOULD HAVE BEEN SO EASY. WTF

Thats what i found so sad, we developed quite a rivalry with Harbinger, it sucks that we see him for the best part of 10 seconds, he says nothing and we don't even get to kill him

[cerberus1701]

Wraith 02 wrote...

cerberus1701 wrote...

"Everyone, don't feed the Troll"

I'm not trolling.

Forgive me for not being able to comprehend 828 pages of:



@ 0:16

Fine we get it, you believe your opinion is the only correct one possible. Now why don't you leave instead of trying to force it down out throats?

I don't have a problem with your opinion.

I have a problem with the sense of entitlement that seems to color it.

Not "I want a better ending"

The "You OWE me a better ending. This is MY game." that colors far too many posts here.

No one at BW that reads this thread (And they are) is taking anything anyone says that comes with even a hint of that, seriously.

[Geassguy360]

What rubs me the wrong way is how you don't see hardly anything about the fleet, it makes no sense why the crew is on the Normandy and fleeing, and the cutscene is SO LAZY. All they did was change the color. Not to mention absolutely no resolution. God I hope it was all an illusion, even if that'd be the worst PR decision ever.

Modifié par Geassguy360, 12 mars 2012 - 05:02 .

[Sorayai]

k8ee wrote...

The lameness of all of this is that it would have been SO EASY to make a good ending.

Have Shep fight the illusive man, then have Shep fight Harbinger, then have Shep set off the damn crucible that destroys the reapers. With high enough EMS Shep is rescued by the Normandy, otherwise he/she gives their life for the galaxy. Cut scenes shown after show results of your decisions during the game.

IT WOULD HAVE BEEN SO EASY. WTF

yea this sounds like a way better idea. meeeh.. >_<