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[CerberusSoldier]

wolfmanlima wrote...

Bioware: “Even
though the information in those files is out of date and does not
reflect the final story experience, we urge fans not to read them if
they want to experience the purest form of the story in Mass Effect 3.”

so, its saying like "the end story is not like stated in the leak, and the files have been modified".

just got some faith in the game,...

   


No they just went back and made it a must that Shepard dies and is a lone in one ending . . yeah they are leing about this and now that the game's endings is out. They are in damage control because the gig is up and the story is bull crap

[JosephShrike]

Wait...didn't we go through this **** like four months ago, and were told the leak wasn't the final story anyway? Or was there some other leak I don't know about?

[txgoldrush]

jellobell wrote...

Mesina2 wrote...

Yeah, Bioware should have made Reapers a total joke.

They shouldn't advance gaming as an art form.

No, no.
This should be a story with standards of children cartoons.

Hero get's to live happily ever after with his/hers true love.

Yay!







I'm sorry, but Bioware is not gonna do that nor it should.
Besides, you have many other games that do that, pick those.

How about this, make a super-artsy ending that advances the medium etc etc as well as making a relatively less bull**** ending and let people CHOOSE.

You can choose to go into the final mission unprepared, get you LI killed, and then get Earth destroyed....

[CDRSkyShepard]

txgoldrush wrote...

yoshibb wrote...

So basically all you misery lovers aren't willing to support only one semi-nice ending. Despite the fact that you get 6 other endings that all suck, we can't have one (that will not effect your story at all) ending where Shepard gets to be marginally happy.

HIlarious, I always support the option of a **** ending and variations of it, but we're not allowed a happy ending?

As others have said this isn't some Shakespeare epic. It's a science fantasy game. It resembles things like Star Wars and Star Trek. Were you also angry when at the end of the Star Trek movie 6, the crew flew off into the sunset together? Or when Luke and all his friends were partying on Endor? I mean obviously in a video game where you choose what happens no one is allowed to choose to be happy.

or how about Deep Space Nine where Sisko has to seperate from the crew and they all go different directions.....the BEST written Star Trek series.

Yeah, but the Prophets could always just "boop" him back if he's ever needed to fulfill some plot point.

This is more like Voyager, where the crew is stranded far from home, not sure where they are at first...only their ship doesn't work anymore. Welp, no hope of the Alpha Quadrant for you, Normandy crew!

[jellobell]

Raxxman wrote...

Honestly

So they have a flat base from which to work the next game from.

They already said the suicide mission caused them all kinds of headaches, so an 'all roads lead to Rome', style ending will make it easier for them to start the next game smoothly.

Still not an excuse for what they did to our crew. That didn't need to happen.

[CptData]

txgoldrush wrote...

or how about Deep Space Nine where Sisko has to seperate from the crew and they all go different directions.....the BEST written Star Trek series.

Although the ending was quite sad, it was still far better than what were going to see now: at least the galaxy, the Federation etc, everything continued to exist.

Can't say the same about Shepard's universe.


But seriously: the endings are old news. The only "kick in the face" comes from the fate of the Normandy. No one saw it coming. However, that one is a deal breaker, because it makes the "personal ending" - the one that matters far more to the player since it's character related - sad in every way possible.

Shepard should die since death seems to be far more mercyful than life.

[CerberusSoldier]

Raxxman wrote...

KateKane wrote...

Mesina2 wrote...
Yeah, Bioware should have made Reapers a total joke.
They shouldn't advance gaming as an art form.
No, no.
This should be a story with standards of children cartoons.
Hero get's to live happily ever after with his/hers true love.
Yay!
I'm sorry, but Bioware is not gonna do that nor it should.
Besides, you have many other games that do that, pick those.

Yeah, why should the final game in an RPG trilogy have numerous and varied endings?

Honestly

So they have a flat base from which to work the next game from.

They already said the suicide mission caused them all kinds of headaches, so an 'all roads lead to Rome', style ending will make it easier for them to start the next game smoothly.

  



They just burned the Mass Effect Ip down to the ground . now us fans who made it will burn them for this stupid ass ending garbage .

[Tazzmission]

DifferentD17 wrote...

yoshibb wrote...

So basically all you misery lovers aren't willing to support only one semi-nice ending. Despite the fact that you get 6 other endings that all suck, we can't have one (that will not effect your story at all) ending where Shepard gets to be marginally happy.

HIlarious, I always support the option of a **** ending and variations of it, but we're not allowed a happy ending?

As others have said this isn't some Shakespeare epic. It's a science fantasy game. It resembles things like Star Wars and Star Trek. Were you also angry when at the end of the Star Trek movie 6, the crew flew off into the sunset together? Or when Luke and all his friends were partying on Endor? I mean obviously in a video game where you choose what happens no one is allowed to choose to be happy.

This!

I'm starting to feel like this game was rushed or the devs were lazy. Even with the delay.

my god really? you really believe the devs are lazy let alone just didnt care because you didnt get what you want?

dont you think thats a bit selfish?

seriously man  if you believe that then i really do pity you because you just proved my argument from earlier.

[txgoldrush]

casedawgz wrote...

txgoldrush wrote...

yoshibb wrote...

So basically all you misery lovers aren't willing to support only one semi-nice ending. Despite the fact that you get 6 other endings that all suck, we can't have one (that will not effect your story at all) ending where Shepard gets to be marginally happy.

HIlarious, I always support the option of a **** ending and variations of it, but we're not allowed a happy ending?

As others have said this isn't some Shakespeare epic. It's a science fantasy game. It resembles things like Star Wars and Star Trek. Were you also angry when at the end of the Star Trek movie 6, the crew flew off into the sunset together? Or when Luke and all his friends were partying on Endor? I mean obviously in a video game where you choose what happens no one is allowed to choose to be happy.

or how about Deep Space Nine where Sisko has to seperate from the crew and they all go different directions.....the BEST written Star Trek series.

Even that has a silver lining; it gets Worf back on the Enterprise where he belongs. 

Worf was a FAR better character in Deep Space Nine.

[casedawgz]

CDRSkyShepard wrote...

txgoldrush wrote...

yoshibb wrote...

So basically all you misery lovers aren't willing to support only one semi-nice ending. Despite the fact that you get 6 other endings that all suck, we can't have one (that will not effect your story at all) ending where Shepard gets to be marginally happy.

HIlarious, I always support the option of a **** ending and variations of it, but we're not allowed a happy ending?

As others have said this isn't some Shakespeare epic. It's a science fantasy game. It resembles things like Star Wars and Star Trek. Were you also angry when at the end of the Star Trek movie 6, the crew flew off into the sunset together? Or when Luke and all his friends were partying on Endor? I mean obviously in a video game where you choose what happens no one is allowed to choose to be happy.

or how about Deep Space Nine where Sisko has to seperate from the crew and they all go different directions.....the BEST written Star Trek series.

Yeah, but the Prophets could always just "boop" him back if he's ever needed to fulfill some plot point.

This is more like Voyager, where the crew is stranded far from home, not sure where they are at first...only their ship doesn't work anymore. Welp, no hope of the Alpha Quadrant for you, Normandy crew!

And minus dem food replicators. Poor Tali and Garrus, having to eat each other in a carniverous way.

[casedawgz]

txgoldrush wrote...

casedawgz wrote...

txgoldrush wrote...

yoshibb wrote...

So basically all you misery lovers aren't willing to support only one semi-nice ending. Despite the fact that you get 6 other endings that all suck, we can't have one (that will not effect your story at all) ending where Shepard gets to be marginally happy.

HIlarious, I always support the option of a **** ending and variations of it, but we're not allowed a happy ending?

As others have said this isn't some Shakespeare epic. It's a science fantasy game. It resembles things like Star Wars and Star Trek. Were you also angry when at the end of the Star Trek movie 6, the crew flew off into the sunset together? Or when Luke and all his friends were partying on Endor? I mean obviously in a video game where you choose what happens no one is allowed to choose to be happy.

or how about Deep Space Nine where Sisko has to seperate from the crew and they all go different directions.....the BEST written Star Trek series.

Even that has a silver lining; it gets Worf back on the Enterprise where he belongs. 

Worf was a FAR better character in Deep Space Nine.

Gonna have to disagree. Worf's argument and subsequent reconciliation with Picard in First Contact is some of my favorite Michael Dorn acting. 

[txgoldrush]

Tazzmission wrote...

DifferentD17 wrote...

yoshibb wrote...

So basically all you misery lovers aren't willing to support only one semi-nice ending. Despite the fact that you get 6 other endings that all suck, we can't have one (that will not effect your story at all) ending where Shepard gets to be marginally happy.

HIlarious, I always support the option of a **** ending and variations of it, but we're not allowed a happy ending?

As others have said this isn't some Shakespeare epic. It's a science fantasy game. It resembles things like Star Wars and Star Trek. Were you also angry when at the end of the Star Trek movie 6, the crew flew off into the sunset together? Or when Luke and all his friends were partying on Endor? I mean obviously in a video game where you choose what happens no one is allowed to choose to be happy.

This!

I'm starting to feel like this game was rushed or the devs were lazy. Even with the delay.

my god really? you really believe the devs are lazy let alone just didnt care because you didnt get what you want?

dont you think thats a bit selfish?

seriously man  if you believe that then i really do pity you because you just proved my argument from earlier.

serisously this forum is like a toddler in a grocery store who didn't get what they want so they throw a tantrum in the checkout line.

[jellobell]

txgoldrush wrote...

jellobell wrote...
How about this, make a super-artsy ending that advances the medium etc etc as well as making a relatively less bull**** ending and let people CHOOSE.

You can choose to go into the final mission unprepared, get you LI killed, and then get Earth destroyed....

Conversely, we should also be able to work our asses off in order to get an ending that lets Shepard and his/her friends stay together in the end.

[txgoldrush]

CptData wrote...

txgoldrush wrote...

or how about Deep Space Nine where Sisko has to seperate from the crew and they all go different directions.....the BEST written Star Trek series.

Although the ending was quite sad, it was still far better than what were going to see now: at least the galaxy, the Federation etc, everything continued to exist.

Can't say the same about Shepard's universe.


But seriously: the endings are old news. The only "kick in the face" comes from the fate of the Normandy. No one saw it coming. However, that one is a deal breaker, because it makes the "personal ending" - the one that matters far more to the player since it's character related - sad in every way possible.

Shepard should die since death seems to be far more mercyful than life.

Which is fine because the theme is about sacrifice.

[CrimsonNephilim]

CptData wrote...

txgoldrush wrote...

or how about Deep Space Nine where Sisko has to seperate from the crew and they all go different directions.....the BEST written Star Trek series.

Although the ending was quite sad, it was still far better than what were going to see now: at least the galaxy, the Federation etc, everything continued to exist.

Can't say the same about Shepard's universe.


But seriously: the endings are old news. The only "kick in the face" comes from the fate of the Normandy. No one saw it coming. However, that one is a deal breaker, because it makes the "personal ending" - the one that matters far more to the player since it's character related - sad in every way possible.

Shepard should die since death seems to be far more mercyful than life.

Agreed

[Tazzmission]

txgoldrush wrote...

Tazzmission wrote...

DifferentD17 wrote...

yoshibb wrote...

So basically all you misery lovers aren't willing to support only one semi-nice ending. Despite the fact that you get 6 other endings that all suck, we can't have one (that will not effect your story at all) ending where Shepard gets to be marginally happy.

HIlarious, I always support the option of a **** ending and variations of it, but we're not allowed a happy ending?

As others have said this isn't some Shakespeare epic. It's a science fantasy game. It resembles things like Star Wars and Star Trek. Were you also angry when at the end of the Star Trek movie 6, the crew flew off into the sunset together? Or when Luke and all his friends were partying on Endor? I mean obviously in a video game where you choose what happens no one is allowed to choose to be happy.

This!

I'm starting to feel like this game was rushed or the devs were lazy. Even with the delay.

my god really? you really believe the devs are lazy let alone just didnt care because you didnt get what you want?

dont you think thats a bit selfish?

seriously man  if you believe that then i really do pity you because you just proved my argument from earlier.

serisously this forum is like a toddler in a grocery store who didn't get what they want so they throw a tantrum in the checkout line.

:sigh: now i got a headheach just reading all these rants

so you agree on my statemnt that fans can be selfish right?

[Yakko77]

jellobell wrote...

txgoldrush wrote...

jellobell wrote...
How about this, make a super-artsy ending that advances the medium etc etc as well as making a relatively less bull**** ending and let people CHOOSE.

You can choose to go into the final mission unprepared, get you LI killed, and then get Earth destroyed....

Conversely, we should also be able to work our asses off in order to get an ending that lets Shepard and his/her friends stay together in the end.

Hopefully that's the case and we just don't know it somehow based on these leaks.  I guess we'll find out next week....

[CerberusSoldier]

jellobell wrote...

txgoldrush wrote...

jellobell wrote...
How about this, make a super-artsy ending that advances the medium etc etc as well as making a relatively less bull**** ending and let people CHOOSE.

You can choose to go into the final mission unprepared, get you LI killed, and then get Earth destroyed....

Conversely, we should also be able to work our asses off in order to get an ending that lets Shepard and his/her friends stay together in the end.

   



we should but sadly we will never get that

[Tietj]

Tazzmission wrote...

txgoldrush wrote...

Tazzmission wrote...

DifferentD17 wrote...

yoshibb wrote...

So basically all you misery lovers aren't willing to support only one semi-nice ending. Despite the fact that you get 6 other endings that all suck, we can't have one (that will not effect your story at all) ending where Shepard gets to be marginally happy.

HIlarious, I always support the option of a **** ending and variations of it, but we're not allowed a happy ending?

As others have said this isn't some Shakespeare epic. It's a science fantasy game. It resembles things like Star Wars and Star Trek. Were you also angry when at the end of the Star Trek movie 6, the crew flew off into the sunset together? Or when Luke and all his friends were partying on Endor? I mean obviously in a video game where you choose what happens no one is allowed to choose to be happy.

This!

I'm starting to feel like this game was rushed or the devs were lazy. Even with the delay.

my god really? you really believe the devs are lazy let alone just didnt care because you didnt get what you want?

dont you think thats a bit selfish?

seriously man  if you believe that then i really do pity you because you just proved my argument from earlier.

serisously this forum is like a toddler in a grocery store who didn't get what they want so they throw a tantrum in the checkout line.

:sigh: now i got a headheach just reading all these rants

so you agree on my statemnt that fans can be selfish right?

Yes, yes, you two both agree with each other, we established that a long time ago.  Now kiss already.

[DifferentD17]

Tazzmission wrote...

DifferentD17 wrote...

yoshibb wrote...

So basically all you misery lovers aren't willing to support only one semi-nice ending. Despite the fact that you get 6 other endings that all suck, we can't have one (that will not effect your story at all) ending where Shepard gets to be marginally happy.

HIlarious, I always support the option of a **** ending and variations of it, but we're not allowed a happy ending?

As others have said this isn't some Shakespeare epic. It's a science fantasy game. It resembles things like Star Wars and Star Trek. Were you also angry when at the end of the Star Trek movie 6, the crew flew off into the sunset together? Or when Luke and all his friends were partying on Endor? I mean obviously in a video game where you choose what happens no one is allowed to choose to be happy.

This!

I'm starting to feel like this game was rushed or the devs were lazy. Even with the delay.

my god really? you really believe the devs are lazy let alone just didnt care because you didnt get what you want?

dont you think thats a bit selfish?

seriously man  if you believe that then i really do pity you because you just proved my argument from earlier.

DA2 was rushed, and look how that turned out. It's exactly what happened here! Why is there basically 1 ending? There should've been 3 or at least 2 a paragon and a renegade. There is no good ending. Why do I think they are lazy? Because they delayed it and then a demo leak came out that looked horrible, and they released the real demo 2 weeks ago and it didn't look too different. How can you not get a little selfish when it's your story, your shepard, it should be your ending.

[KateKane]

jellobell wrote...

txgoldrush wrote...

jellobell wrote...
How about this, make a super-artsy ending that advances the medium etc etc as well as making a relatively less bull**** ending and let people CHOOSE.

You can choose to go into the final mission unprepared, get you LI killed, and then get Earth destroyed....

Conversely, we should also be able to work our asses off in order to get an ending that lets Shepard and his/her friends stay together in the end.

Or allow us to screw up enough that we outright lose to the Reapers.

[CptData]

txgoldrush wrote...

Which is fine because the theme is about sacrifice.

Shepard sacrificed enough.

And the Normandy deal seems to be the only thing Shepard can not change. It happens. They're gone. None of Shepard's sacrifices will prevent that ending.

And that's why it's a slap into the fans faces, not more, not less. BW simply wanted to remove ANY chance of a happy ending - even a continuation by fanfiction, comics, books is impossible. Normandy + crew and Shepard are destined to end that story alone and there's no way for them to reunite.

Even in a game with the theme "sacrifice" it's missing the target. If just feels cruel.

[humes spork]

txgoldrush wrote...

Think about it, life is about the journey NOT the destination...why? because the only proven destination is death.

...

Nevermind the whole point of that relationship is journey not destination.

The issue is, at least as I see it, in ME3 (as I've read thus far, anyways, I could be mistaken) is the entire honkin' journey up to and including the majority of ME3 itself is rendered trivial by a Space MacGuffin Hunt. ...that follows the true-to-Bioware-cliche four-part Rally the Armies sequence during which previous choices and actions throughout the trilogy matter only in terms of changed dialogue and characters, just to add insult to injury.

Really, it looks like after a certain point, all those choices and their long-term consequences are just an arbitrary plus or minus to the inconsequential-cutscene-o-meter. Here I figured something like sparing a victimized, andmisunderstood, ancient alien race from (or condemning them to) extinction would actually matter fighting the Reapers and not Eleventh Hour Space MacGuffin. People want to grouse about the Reaper threat being so overplayed that only a deus ex machina could resolve it...well, there it is, plain as day.

Me, I would have been happy with a simple, straightforward civilization-endingly epic space battle the outcome of which depended on Shepard's choices, with the Crappy Ending-o-Matic being the last-ditch desperation move for a Shepard who managed to FUBAR things worse than even a full renegade could.

[txgoldrush]

casedawgz wrote...

txgoldrush wrote...

casedawgz wrote...

txgoldrush wrote...

yoshibb wrote...

So basically all you misery lovers aren't willing to support only one semi-nice ending. Despite the fact that you get 6 other endings that all suck, we can't have one (that will not effect your story at all) ending where Shepard gets to be marginally happy.

HIlarious, I always support the option of a **** ending and variations of it, but we're not allowed a happy ending?

As others have said this isn't some Shakespeare epic. It's a science fantasy game. It resembles things like Star Wars and Star Trek. Were you also angry when at the end of the Star Trek movie 6, the crew flew off into the sunset together? Or when Luke and all his friends were partying on Endor? I mean obviously in a video game where you choose what happens no one is allowed to choose to be happy.

or how about Deep Space Nine where Sisko has to seperate from the crew and they all go different directions.....the BEST written Star Trek series.

Even that has a silver lining; it gets Worf back on the Enterprise where he belongs. 

Worf was a FAR better character in Deep Space Nine.

Gonna have to disagree. Worf's argument and subsequent reconciliation with Picard in First Contact is some of my favorite Michael Dorn acting. 

The problem with TNG is that there is no character development outside Picard due to the nature of the series. DS9 is more serial, especially in the later seasons, which allows Worf to fall in love, kill Gowron, reject the leadership of the Klingons, lose his loved one, an dgrow as a character. Worf has no such development on TNG.