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[ARCTIC EAGLE]

Any updates/news from Bioware in the last 30 pages?

[Elmogaming]

mauro2222 wrote...

Bioware's Defense Force has arrived?

Get the Quarian fleet to fall back and get the krogans to push forward while We make a sneaky flanking manuvuer

[christrek1982]

Konstaili wrote...

Why we can't hope to a better end? why our dessision can't change solution at the end of this Great Game? Why?
I'm still depressed over the 60 hours

yep same

[GroverA125]

I still sit here looking at the mass of pages and wondering how it got so bad... Yet I keep sitting here because I'm sad for a prime reason:

There will be no future for Mass Effect.

In ultimatum, I care little about the death of shepard. I was expecting it in the end of the game, but I'm not sad about the fact that shepard and most of the squad is dead/trapped/dying. I'm sad because they burned out the possibility of continuing the story past shepard.

After playing ME2, my wish was to get a mass effect game where the player has full control of character. No shepard, just you choosing who you are on a racial and historical system. In short, I wanted a game where you played as any of the races with no real forced history to him. Imagine an "Elder Scrolls" beginning to a game, where you're free to think whatever you want. By doing what they have, they blow this out the water, and in fact, any game placed post-reaper war is as good as impossible. If they'd have ended the game in a way that ties up ends, but allows continuity of the franchise (eg. Shepard dying but the galaxy remaining intact) then I'd have been a happy chap, because then they could possibly continue it. Look at Halo, that is what I'd class as a perfect ending. People die, but there's still two sides, and a universe to rebuild and explore in the future, they could still have got away with not making a new game, but the idea that it could be continued is what made me like that end. Mass Effect, however, is IMO terribly finished because too many things are shook out of place. if the relays survived and there was a certain threshold at which the endings went (killing only the reapers or controlling them to leave and never return are good examples) then we could be happy knowing there'd be a future for it. Harry Potter had the same, they could carry it on because they writ the ending snugly to allow a future. Mass Effect has no future anymore because of the crippling force of Biowares choice of ending.

Anyone could get a story up and running, but it seems that Bioware just aren't too good at ending them properly (currently, at least). If they'd give us something to let us finish the shepard trilogy with some good, without any loopholes and the possibility of a future to the franchise, then I think that I would definitely be calmer about what's happened. It's like they changed ideals just at the end, like someone else wrote the ending and the devs just went with it. Hell, just some form of "yes, we have the possibility of making a post-shepard game" would leave me at peace with Bioware.

[vboy23]

Hmmm 100+ pages since I signed up just so I can post here. Havent had a chance to post my own reflection on what has happened, but I am definitely relieved that I wasn't the only one completely surprised at the endings. Reading everyone's reaction, including the "indoctrination" theory has been a panacea to the tumult of emotions I felt when I realize all my actions and decisions amounted to nothing in the end.

I'll be back later and until then...


HOLD THE LINE!!!

[christrek1982]

well its 5.15 PM in the uk if I don't hear somthing by 12.00 AM then Im saying no more DLC for any BW game no more tor sub and no more BW games at all. 5 years just wasted

Modifié par christrek1982, 12 mars 2012 - 05:17 .

[QwibQwib]

Belongs to:
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Modifié par QwibQwib, 12 mars 2012 - 05:19 .

[sergeym1990]

christrek1982 wrote...

well its 5.15 PM in the uk if I don't hear somthing by 12.00 AM then Im saying no more DLC for any BW game no more tor sub and no more BW games at all. 5 years just wasted

I dont think we can really expect official statement so early. This matter is much deeper that DLC controversy. 

[alberta]

It is inconceivable to me that the same people who created the Thane segment, and the Quarian/Geth segment could have possibly given us this dud of an ending. I had plans to replay the entire Mass Effect Trilogy with other decisions knowing the effects up to the ME3 end - NOW that's all destroyed. For me, if not for many of us, this was our hope that after all that Sheppard sacrificed, including his life saving Joker, a full adult life of war, rejection from so many, friends and crew turned their backs on him, barely tolerated even by the council, by the Alliance, Sheppard more than deserved to live out his life with his friends/L1 and even have kids. I wanted that - this series demands that, and Bioware even deserved nothing less themselves.

[cerberus1701]

rethas wrote...

cerberus1701 wrote...

Wraith 02 wrote...

cerberus1701 wrote...

"Everyone, don't feed the Troll"

I'm not trolling.

Forgive me for not being able to comprehend 828 pages of:



@ 0:16

Fine we get it, you believe your opinion is the only correct one possible. Now why don't you leave instead of trying to force it down out throats?

I don't have a problem with your opinion.

I have a problem with the sense of entitlement that seems to color it.

Not "I want a better ending"

The "You OWE me a better ending. This is MY game." that colors far too many posts here.

No one at BW that reads this thread (And they are) is taking anything anyone says that comes with even a hint of that, seriously.

Read the thread for every post screaming WAAAA I WANT A BETTER ENDING, there are multiple well thought out complaints and disapointments.

But you don't seem to be able to see past that, nor do you want to as evidenced by your own posts so far calling people irational and wanting to be "spoon fed".

Lots of people are posting saying they are dissapointed. Not I am owed a better ending.

You are purposely generalizing and really other than to troll or purposely annoy people there doesn't seem to be a purpose to it.

Dude, you don't have to go 10 pages back, much less 800, to find a ton of posts where people are *demanding* a better ending. (I'm owed) "I put 140 hours into these games" (I'm owed) "I pre-ordered all the CEs and THIS?" (I'm owed.)

It colors a lot of (but not all) posts here.


You're not owed. Tell them it was a letdown. Tell them why. Ask for a fix.

But slamming them isn't going to work. Puffing up about what you've bought and what a hardcore fanboy you are doesn't work.

And really, you want to do something else to send a message? Get you and some others to send letters. Actual, well-written, physical letters.

1000 of those is worth more than 50,000 pages of this.

Because anyone can do what we're doing here.  Anyone can hide behind it. And all things considered, this takes way less thought or effort.

And it's harder to ignore bags of actual mail in your office.

[Nyila]

GroverA125 wrote...

I still sit here looking at the mass of pages and wondering how it got so bad... Yet I keep sitting here because I'm sad for a prime reason:

There will be no future for Mass Effect.

In ultimatum, I care little about the death of shepard. I was expecting it in the end of the game, but I'm not sad about the fact that shepard and most of the squad is dead/trapped/dying. I'm sad because they burned out the possibility of continuing the story past shepard.

After playing ME2, my wish was to get a mass effect game where the player has full control of character. No shepard, just you choosing who you are on a racial and historical system. In short, I wanted a game where you played as any of the races with no real forced history to him. Imagine an "Elder Scrolls" beginning to a game, where you're free to think whatever you want. By doing what they have, they blow this out the water, and in fact, any game placed post-reaper war is as good as impossible. If they'd have ended the game in a way that ties up ends, but allows continuity of the franchise (eg. Shepard dying but the galaxy remaining intact) then I'd have been a happy chap, because then they could possibly continue it. Look at Halo, that is what I'd class as a perfect ending. People die, but there's still two sides, and a universe to rebuild and explore in the future, they could still have got away with not making a new game, but the idea that it could be continued is what made me like that end. Mass Effect, however, is IMO terribly finished because too many things are shook out of place. if the relays survived and there was a certain threshold at which the endings went (killing only the reapers or controlling them to leave and never return are good examples) then we could be happy knowing there'd be a future for it. Harry Potter had the same, they could carry it on because they writ the ending snugly to allow a future. Mass Effect has no future anymore because of the crippling force of Biowares choice of ending.

Anyone could get a story up and running, but it seems that Bioware just aren't too good at ending them properly (currently, at least). If they'd give us something to let us finish the shepard trilogy with some good, without any loopholes and the possibility of a future to the franchise, then I think that I would definitely be calmer about what's happened. It's like they changed ideals just at the end, like someone else wrote the ending and the devs just went with it. Hell, just some form of "yes, we have the possibility of making a post-shepard game" would leave me at peace with Bioware.

There is a future for Mass Effect, it's an MMORPG where Shepard is in spirit form, guiding the players during raids and such.. <_<

$$$

[DifferentD17]

QwibQwib wrote...



Belongs to:
JPShieux

Lol thanks for the laugh in these bleak times, It's like playing ME3 I'm sad then someone says something funny, oh what ME3 could've been...

[Gamer Genocider]

Hey guys. I just asked Mass Effect 3 on Twitter if it's possible for the Reapers to indoctrinate Shepard. Their reply was "Anything is possible". I know it doesn't mean much but meh, whatever.

[Ukmaxi]

Candidate 88766 wrote...

Ships can still travel without Relays. Galactic trade would be impossible, but systems and small clusters would do okay.

Stranding the Normandy so they can found a new colony is terrible though imo. A disappointing sendoff for the characters.

But what I don't get is why the Normandy was in the middle of a mass relay FTL Jump anyway? Surely it'd be at Earth? Also, like everyone says. Why does your team get 'Quantum Leaped' to another place and position entirely?

I loved the game until the end point as most others i'm sure. I just wish they could rewrite the ending to accept more decisions based on outcomes throughout the entire trilogy. Thus determining the final outcome and decision you have to make.

With those 3 narrow path endings it destroys the entire mass effect universe. Which I guess in hindsight is clever. But not satisfying, considering there is no epilogue either on all of your characters who did survive. Do they care that Shepard could possibly be dead?

[QwibQwib]

DifferentD17 wrote...

QwibQwib wrote...



Belongs to:
JPShieux

Lol thanks for the laugh in these bleak times, It's like playing ME3 I'm sad then someone says something funny, oh what ME3 could've been...

I wish I could do more than that

[cerberus1701]

karambiatos wrote...

cerberus1701 wrote...]

Why would it since no one really knows how you take the relays out of the equation? Could be as simple as turning them off. The relay goes dead with a fairly gradual power stepdown.

Not the same as slapping a huge rock into a fully powered relay.

if by gardual, you mean massive explosions that cover a star cluster, then i have to agree

Who says? Where does it say anywhere in any of the games that the only way a relay stops working is by spewing a supernova?

[Matt_gekko88]

in the aftermath, even Fable was more versatile than ME3

[christrek1982]

F that that realy bad theres no chance

[karambiatos]

cerberus1701 wrote...


And it's harder to ignore bags of actual mail in your office.

THIS times a 1000

cerberus1701 wrote...

karambiatos wrote...

cerberus1701 wrote...]

Why
would it since no one really knows how you take the relays out of the
equation? Could be as simple as turning them off. The relay goes dead
with a fairly gradual power stepdown.

Not the same as slapping a huge rock into a fully powered relay.

if by gardual, you mean massive explosions that cover a star cluster, then i have to agree

Who
says? Where does it say anywhere in any of the games that the only way a
relay stops working is by spewing a supernova?

because it said in arrivle blow up a mass relay and bad stuff happens

and what did those mass relays do?
given they could have fired the mass effect core in the middle, but then there shouldnt have been explosions going outward after it hit every singe relay

if it quacks like a duck (you get the rest of it)

Modifié par karambiatos, 12 mars 2012 - 05:27 .

[TurambarEA]

Wow, thanks to whoever posted this link: http://www.gameinfor...PostPageIndex=2 - the first answer there is just insulting. Trade out "A, B or C" for "red, blue or green" and you have the endings for ME3. Disgraceful. Makes you wonder whether Casey is completely disconnected with the game process now (or if he even knew what he was talking about when taking this interview) or if he lied to us. Don't like either alternative.

[IndustrializedTaco]

cerberus1701 wrote...

rethas wrote...

cerberus1701 wrote...

Wraith 02 wrote...

cerberus1701 wrote...

"Everyone, don't feed the Troll"

I'm not trolling.

Forgive me for not being able to comprehend 828 pages of:



@ 0:16

Fine we get it, you believe your opinion is the only correct one possible. Now why don't you leave instead of trying to force it down out throats?

I don't have a problem with your opinion.

I have a problem with the sense of entitlement that seems to color it.

Not "I want a better ending"

The "You OWE me a better ending. This is MY game." that colors far too many posts here.

No one at BW that reads this thread (And they are) is taking anything anyone says that comes with even a hint of that, seriously.

Read the thread for every post screaming WAAAA I WANT A BETTER ENDING, there are multiple well thought out complaints and disapointments.

But you don't seem to be able to see past that, nor do you want to as evidenced by your own posts so far calling people irational and wanting to be "spoon fed".

Lots of people are posting saying they are dissapointed. Not I am owed a better ending.

You are purposely generalizing and really other than to troll or purposely annoy people there doesn't seem to be a purpose to it.

Dude, you don't have to go 10 pages back, much less 800, to find a ton of posts where people are *demanding* a better ending. (I'm owed) "I put 140 hours into these games" (I'm owed) "I pre-ordered all the CEs and THIS?" (I'm owed.)

It colors a lot of (but not all) posts here.


You're not owed. Tell them it was a letdown. Tell them why. Ask for a fix.

But slamming them isn't going to work. Puffing up about what you've bought and what a hardcore fanboy you are doesn't work.

And really, you want to do something else to send a message? Get you and some others to send letters. Actual, well-written, physical letters.

1000 of those is worth more than 50,000 pages of this.

Because anyone can do what we're doing here.  Anyone can hide behind it. And all things considered, this takes way less thought or effort.

And it's harder to ignore bags of actual mail in your office.

So you are willing to dismiss the people who actually make good points for the people who complain about it... That seems logical. I'm pretty sure that if they released this as paid DLC almost half the people who posted on this would pay. I sure would. I'm not going to make demands (it's stupid, and will not get anything accomplished) A good majority of people, and I are making requests.

[Nyila]

Gamer Genocider wrote...

Hey guys. I just asked Mass Effect 3 on Twitter if it's possible for the Reapers to indoctrinate Shepard. Their reply was "Anything is possible". I know it doesn't mean much but meh, whatever.

I've been convinced since the start of this whole situation that they planned this, although I'm not convinced they knew the reactions would be THAT bad.

[cantido21]

MrPuschel wrote...



Ghostfire on deviantart
http://ghostfire.dev...s Effect 3&qo=2 

EXACTLY, I gave you my heart and you stomped on it!

[mauro2222]

Elmogaming wrote...

mauro2222 wrote...

Bioware's Defense Force has arrived?

Get the Quarian fleet to fall back and get the krogans to push forward while We make a sneaky flanking manuvuer

Bleh, just let the Vorcha feed with them.

Modifié par mauro2222, 12 mars 2012 - 05:25 .

[DifferentD17]

QwibQwib wrote...

DifferentD17 wrote...

QwibQwib wrote...



Belongs to:
JPShieux

Lol thanks for the laugh in these bleak times, It's like playing ME3 I'm sad then someone says something funny, oh what ME3 could've been...

I wish I could do more than that

We all wish we could do more...