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[BCMakoto]

Yes. Fanboy rage is fanboyism.

ME3 isn't the first example of
this. Google is yopur friend. I'm not here to do your homework for you,
thogh I will say you can go to a website for any AAA title and see pages
and pages of the same thing.

And ME3s "news" postings are more
for Javik and whether or not he was already on the disk or not (The
charahter model was, that's it)

Wrong. There are actually several sides, like IGN, commenting our exact problem with the endings. 2-3 are against us, but multiple sides give enough reason to support a DCL, giving logical reason and saying what we all do: This was not sufficient for this trilogy.

Could you now stop quote insane long walls of texts? It is annoying. Quote one or two, but not a whole wall that covers a whole page.

Modifié par LPKerberos, 12 mars 2012 - 06:22 .

[DiTHmaphacks]

Elanor1 wrote...

QwibQwib wrote...

This is awesome.

This needs to be spread around and liked.

[Kloborgg711]

cerberus1701 wrote...
Yes. Fanboy rage is fanboyism.

ME3 isn't the first example of this. Google is yopur friend. I'm not here to do your homework for you, thogh I will say you can go to a website for any AAA title and see pages and pages of the same thing.

And ME3s "news" postings are more for Javik and whether or not he was already on the disk or not (The charahter model was, that's it)

This seems like an awkward place to be calling other people "fanboys", when you're the one defending the developer.
ME3 is not the first example of people dissatisfied with a game's ending, you're right. That said, I kindly ask for an example of another game that's had anything resembling this almost universal backlash. You can obviously say that the angry crowd will be loudest, but we're talking tens of thousands here within the first week of release. We're talking 2% satisfaction in the polls. You simply cannot equate the magnitude of this situation to "oh well you can't please everyone."

Modifié par Kloborgg711, 12 mars 2012 - 06:26 .

[Rosery99]

Yes please like that Video, it's important to get our message out across multiple mediums. Keep focused, keep unified, I know it's been a long week everyone, painfully long but it might take weeks for us to get what we want. We.Must.Keep.Strong.

[cerberus1701]

LPKerberos wrote...

Yes. Fanboy rage is fanboyism.

ME3 isn't the first example of
this. Google is yopur friend. I'm not here to do your homework for you,
thogh I will say you can go to a website for any AAA title and see pages
and pages of the same thing.

And ME3s "news" postings are more
for Javik and whether or not he was already on the disk or not (The
charahter model was, that's it)

Wrong. There are actually several sides, like IGN, commenting our exact problem with the endings. 2-3 are against us, but multiple sides give enough reason to support a DCL, giving logical reason and saying what we all do: This was not sufficient for this trilogy.

Could you now stop quote insane long walls of texts? It is annoying. Quote one or two, but not a whole wall that covers a whole page.

I didn't say the endings weren't part of the "news" I said that they weren't the big event at the moment. Not compared to Javik.

[hector7rau]

I guess i finally get it, Bioware is our salvation through our destruction. They're saving us from countless cycles of replayability and joy.

[BCMakoto]

Kloborgg711 wrote...

cerberus1701 wrote...
Yes. Fanboy rage is fanboyism.

ME3 isn't the first example of this. Google is yopur friend. I'm not here to do your homework for you, thogh I will say you can go to a website for any AAA title and see pages and pages of the same thing.

And ME3s "news" postings are more for Javik and whether or not he was already on the disk or not (The charahter model was, that's it)

This seems like an awkward place to be calling other people "fanboys", when you're the one defending the developer.
ME3 is not the first example of people dissatisfied with a game's ending, you're right. That said, I kindly ask for an example of another game that's had anything resembling this almost universal backlash. You can obviously say that the angry crowd will be loudest, but we're talking tens of thousands here within the first week of release. We're talking 2% satisfaction in the polls. You simply cannot equate the magnitude of this situation to "oh well you can't please everyone."

This is exactly the point. We are not talking about "Well, 200 guys aren't happy.". We are talking about nearly 30.000 people within the first week. I imagine that, as time passes and people finish the game, this count will rise up to close to 50.000. This thread has raised to 850 pages withing not even a week. IGN and such start to share the thing, spreading the message. 12.500 likes on Facebook within a day. This is not "We were not able to please everyone.". This is, by far, the most ragestorm I have seen about a game in some time. A riot started in the forum within hours.

Bioware has to seriously consider the free DLC/DLC/Patch thing to keep people on the ball. I don't think many people will buy future Bioware games if this one was such a let down. And EA is NOT moving away. Don't get me wrong, the game itself was good. But whoever made the story at the end was...well...not to get any reason to shut this thread down.

This is not a simple matter of 100 people disliking it. We are talking in the 10th of thousands here. Within a week!

I didn't say the endings weren't part of the "news" I said that they weren't the big event at the moment. Not compared to Javik.

They are as much the problem as the Prothean is. If you just google for 20 minutes you will find tons of sides reporting about the riot going on here. This is not simply "Fanboy rage.". It is a matter that has to be dealt with. This is not a small side matter behind the Prothean. It is as present as Javik is.

Modifié par LPKerberos, 12 mars 2012 - 06:33 .

[DiTHmaphacks]

i feel like i got www.youtube.com/watch 

Modifié par DiTHmaphacks, 12 mars 2012 - 06:32 .

[LetheAlethe]

hector7rau wrote...

I guess i finally get it, Bioware is our salvation through our destruction. They're saving us from countless cycles of replayability and joy.

Because in the end, at some point, eventually, we would have stopped playing the games, and lost interest in them. So *obviously* Star Kid... uuhhh... the developers... had to intervene and bring the exact same result about prematurely. Because that just makes perfect sense.

[infinitekilan]

I know a few people have said this already, but I'm going to chime in too.

The Sovereign-sized quote pyramids need to stop.

Don't feed the trolls.

Stay focused, calm, and on topic.

Use common sense, don't post inappropriate content, don't say inappropriate things.

And as a final note, those of you who are calling the Fleet members stupid/entitled/whatever and are essentially telling us to shut up and deal with it, the numbers speak for themselves. We are THOUSANDS strong, and the few dozen of you that aren't with us aren't going to derail us. Take your ill-begotten attempts at crushing the last vestments of hope that we have, and go somewhere else.

We will hold the line!

[RussianOrc]

DiTHmaphacks wrote...

i feel like i got www.youtube.com/watch 

i would be happier if this was the ending....

[XenoAlbedo]

I wonder if Bioware will get the idea if people riot infront of their HQ...

Modifié par XenoAlbedo, 12 mars 2012 - 06:37 .

[Karnor00]

While I would have liked a happy ending, I don't really have a problem with the fact that we didn't get that.

But I do have two problems with the ending. Firstly none of the choices I made during the game mattered. The ending was determined by my final choice, with minor variations depending on my war score. All my choices did was have a fairly minor impact on my war score. That's pretty inexcusable for a franchise which embodies choice and consequence so prominently. In fact the biggest impact on war score is whether you play multiplayer or not!

My second issue is that we don't see any hope. A huge part of ME3 is the idea of keeping persevering and always hoping for better. Sure all the mass relays have been destroyed but why couldn't we have seen some scenes of the survivors picking up the pieces, and working towards developing an alternative FTL technology. Intergalactic communications presumably still work so people on different worlds can still communicate.

[cerberus1701]

Kloborgg711 wrote...

cerberus1701 wrote...
Yes. Fanboy rage is fanboyism.

ME3 isn't the first example of this. Google is yopur friend. I'm not here to do your homework for you, thogh I will say you can go to a website for any AAA title and see pages and pages of the same thing.

And ME3s "news" postings are more for Javik and whether or not he was already on the disk or not (The charahter model was, that's it)

This seems like an awkward place to be calling other people "fanboys", when you're the one defending the developer.
ME3 is not the first example of people dissatisfied with a game's ending, you're right. That said, I kindly ask for an example of another game that's had anything resembling this almost universal backlash. You can obviously say that the angry crowd will be loudest, but we're talking tens of thousands here within the first week of release. We're talking 2% satisfaction in the polls. You simply cannot equate the magnitude of this situation to "oh well you can't please everyone."

There are degrees of fandom.

And no, you're equating tens of thousands of posts with tens of thousands of people. Tens of housands of posts with people repeating themselves and working themselves and others into a frenzy.

That's one of the reasons I've suggested writing actual physical letters.

[laughing sherpa girl]

LPKerberos wrote...

Yes. Fanboy rage is fanboyism.

ME3 isn't the first example of
this. Google is yopur friend. I'm not here to do your homework for you,
thogh I will say you can go to a website for any AAA title and see pages
and pages of the same thing.

And ME3s "news" postings are more
for Javik and whether or not he was already on the disk or not (The
charahter model was, that's it)

Wrong. There are actually several sides, like IGN, commenting our exact problem with the endings. 2-3 are against us, but multiple sides give enough reason to support a DCL, giving logical reason and saying what we all do: This was not sufficient for this trilogy.

Could you now stop quote insane long walls of texts? It is annoying. Quote one or two, but not a whole wall that covers a whole page.

 What the man above said, ANd. EA's stock market share value reflects it. ME3 should be pushing EA's stock market share value up by at least 3%, instead, its dropped 3% in the last 24 hours and it continues to decline. Your entitled to your opinions, but it appears that the world investmernt community is more in agreement with us "fanboys" ( by the way, i'm a sixty year old woman, not a fan "boy" thank you ) than with you people.. 
We do not hold a philosophy of roll over and take it. We fight. When we buy a copy of Photoshop, we expect photoshop, not Gimp. We fight. We will never roll over and we will never accept a ten dollar product for our sixty dollar ( minimum ) investment.

[cantido21]

Ya know, maybe this style of ending is the new trend of things.

It's time for all the death star debris (rotj) to rain down on endor and kill all the main characters.

[mulder1199]

LPKerberos wrote...
made the story at the end was...well...not to get any reason to shut this thread down.

This is not a simple matter of 100 people disliking it. We are talking in the 10th of thousands here. Within a week!

I didn't say the endings weren't part of the "news" I said that they weren't the big event at the moment. Not compared to Javik.

They are as much the problem as the Prothean is. If you just google for 20 minutes you will find tons of sides reporting about the riot going on here. This is not simply "Fanboy rage.". It is a matter that has to be dealt with. This is not a small side matter behind the Prothean. It is as present as Javik is.

30k was hit today.....at 25k it was 98% of responders to the poll were dissatified with the end

[GeromeDoutrande]

The ending was really atrociously stupid.

[TSC_1]

I think that this needs to be restated:

Bioware, I'm the sort of fan that you want. I own ME1 and ME2, as well as all the DLC for them - even the, well, kind of useless ones, like the alternate appearance packs. I pre-ordered the ME3 DDE. I had planned to buy all of the ME3 DLC. You've got your hooks into me... and into my wallet.

As crass as it is, that point needs to be made: I'm the sort of guy that you can depend on to give you money. Which is why this is a problem for you. As I understand it, you and EA are counting on ME3 DLC sales for the next year or so. You hope to turn a good profit on them, I'm sure. But, because of the ME3 ending, you aren't going to get me to buy that DLC. This isn't a threat, this isn't a boycott - this is just me saying that the ending to ME3 has so alienated me from the game and it has so soured the entire series for me, that I just don't see the point of buying that DLC. Why would I when I know that, no matter what I do, I'm going to be disappointed in the end? That my Shepard will die, my Shepard's friends and LI will be stranded on a jungle planet for no reason, and galactic civilization will be utterly destroyed?

The ending to Mass Effect 3 has really destroyed any meaning or joy in what came before. Why would I buy DLC that adds to that meaningless before-the-end game?

Essentially, if you hope to sell DLC, you really need to fix this. Because even your most dedicated, hardcore fans just don't see the point in continuing until that happens.

[Klimax]

Apparently there is happier ending where Shepard survives. However it looks like not many got there...
From Walkthrough at http://www.gamefaqs....ct-3/faqs/63886 :
"Rating 4000-5000 - If Shepard destroys the Reapers and "saves" Anderson, Shepard will also live as Earth is saved."
Section [0417].
I ended at ~3600 so didn't get it. I know only about mistake with C-Sec(concentrating on small crime), so not sure how to get past 4000 witout multiplayer.

[guyfromprague]

Keepin' it civil.
It's simply not fair (really trying to be civil here) to hardcore players that care about the characters and story to get exactly the same ending as someone who doesn't care about the result.
All those storylines, allies, friends, armies in the end don't matter.
If I don't get to see whether Liara will have blue babies, Tali will get her house, Garrus will finish those calibrations, or anything, what's the point.
If Bioware tried to be philosophical with their ending . .. . well job done. What's the point?
Yes I want an ending where we will find out who will win a fight between Shepard and Kaidan, so sue me.
I'm a stoic person, but it brings tears into my eyes thinking of the possibilities ME3 could have ended and didn't. Am I being to emotionally attached to fictional characters? You can I am. Again, contact my lawyer if you have problem with that.
I will defend Mass Effect as the best sci-fi of our generation, but I will not, in my clear conscience have anything to do with RBG ending. When someone asks me, I'll tell them to exit the game after Harbinger's strobe performance, and read some fanfiction instead.

[Kloborgg711]

cerberus1701 wrote...

Kloborgg711 wrote...

cerberus1701 wrote...
Yes. Fanboy rage is fanboyism.

ME3 isn't the first example of this. Google is yopur friend. I'm not here to do your homework for you, thogh I will say you can go to a website for any AAA title and see pages and pages of the same thing.

And ME3s "news" postings are more for Javik and whether or not he was already on the disk or not (The charahter model was, that's it)

This seems like an awkward place to be calling other people "fanboys", when you're the one defending the developer.
ME3 is not the first example of people dissatisfied with a game's ending, you're right. That said, I kindly ask for an example of another game that's had anything resembling this almost universal backlash. You can obviously say that the angry crowd will be loudest, but we're talking tens of thousands here within the first week of release. We're talking 2% satisfaction in the polls. You simply cannot equate the magnitude of this situation to "oh well you can't please everyone."

There are degrees of fandom.

And no, you're equating tens of thousands of posts with tens of thousands of people. Tens of housands of posts with people repeating themselves and working themselves and others into a frenzy.

That's one of the reasons I've suggested writing actual physical letters.

No, I'm not equating posts with people. I'm using my brain to realize there's probably a lot of people who feel the same way and didn't post on this specific forum board. When I see a thread with 50 posts about an issue, I can extrapolate that to mean there are probably a few hundred to thousand people who agree with it (as an example). When I see that a single topic has tens of thousands of posts, I can extrapolate that to mean... well.. a lot of people throughout the world.

[cerberus1701]

XenoAlbedo wrote...

I wonder if Bioware will get the idea if people riot infront of their HQ...

Protest, maybe.

Riot, no
.

[cotheer]

Aiden_Cora wrote...

http://www.blistered...ge-reviews-me3/

Even The Sage feels that ME3's ending feels "empty"

This is how reviews should be done and instead of just pointing out good aspects of the game (coughigncough) bad sides of it should be taken into consideration too.