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Wolfgang_Ocelot

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Edit: Sorry browser messed up on me. anyway

Like i've said and will continue to say. This ending (RBG) made me feel empty. We shaped Shepard's personallity and morale choices to how we would've responded in these given situations. So why did they feel the need to destroy the character we worked so hard to make?

It baffles me =/

Modifié par Wolfgang_Ocelot, 12 mars 2012 - 07:27 .


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Aramintai wrote...

I agree. The "best" ending is no better than worse ones. And you really have to work hard to get it, to boot.
That Shepard will get screwed in every option sucks BIG time - I've enjoyed Shep's personal problems in ME more that those on the galactic scale. And those on the galactic scale - well, sure Reapers will be destroyed..along all their tech like Mass Relays. Which I can't say is better considering that without them many planets won't be able to sustain themselves, so how is this a better ending than the rest I cannot fathom.
Pointless and dissatisfying to say the least...


you know whats really sad, is i actually prefered arguing with the council about the reapers than actually playing most of mass effect 3 lmao 

i love the game itself its good but its not a mass effect game in my eyes. :/ 

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Captain Arty wrote...

http://i.imgur.com/IhOjP.png

Yeah. But I think its must be like http://i.imgur.com/CynVS.png

edit: oh oh too slow
but anyway

Modifié par Baltman, 12 mars 2012 - 07:22 .


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wordson wrote...

 more like this...

http://imgur.com/lgPmD


Even more Epic win.

#20980
Game_Fan_85

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I am wondering how many people have registered over the past week just for this thread. I bet there was a huge increase in members since Wednesday.

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The ending to Mass Effect 3 confused me more than trying to understand how he does this:


Give it a shot I promise its good.

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Wolfgang_Ocelot wrote...

JediNg wrote...

XenoAlbedo wrote...

How could anybody like these endings? Not only are they sad, they are so stupid and full of plot holes that if the sadness, stupidity, and plot holes were stacked up, it would be a mountain of crap so large that it would reach the galactic core, in which a black hole would suck it in and pull Earth in with it.


Sad is acceptable if it made complete sense and 'sends off' the series properly. Ever complete the Xenosaga series? (Xenosaga episode I, II, III). Yeah. The ending was sort of reminiscient of Xenosaga episode III.. cept Xenosaga's ending made sense in the context of their own universe.


the reason that felt similar was because they didn't have funding to continue and rushed to end it in III. It was originally planned to be a 6 part epic.


could you imagen mass effect being a 6 part epic 0.o lmao

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 So the twitter post by Holly Conrad
That was posted earlier, was replied to by Jessica Merizan (the community manager

Has now been retweeted by the development director https://twitter.com/#!/robinmayne
And it seems from later tweets that Holly also believes that the indoctrination theory is true, So, maybe a bit of hope?

Modifié par Thermorium, 12 mars 2012 - 07:23 .


#20984
TamiBx

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hector7rau wrote...

TamiBx wrote...

 Some guy from Gameinformer just tweeted that we are awful for requesting a new ending for ME3. 
So I respectfully asked him why? Since if they make a dlc to fix it, they will keep their fans and make tons of money in the process. 

And I honestly don't see why it is so wrong to be vocal about it. I mean, we PAID for the game. And we were promised choices that would affect the whole game, especially the ending. If this had been...I don't know, Resident Evil, yes, I would have been like "dang it, my character died and I have no idea what happened at the end. Oh well." But it isn't. We were promised something and did not get it. There are plenty of evidence out there that they promised one thing, like closure, and we did not get it. :(


Link or it didn't happen


This guy: https://twitter.com/#!/pkollar

you have to scroll down a little to see it, since everyone is now attacking him on twitter...

(and for some reason, BSN won't let me make that a link...sorry about that)

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To all the people slamming me....accusing me of "making things up:

Rob8228:

"Not only did we pay for ir, we were promised our choices would impact the game. So, if this really is the end, as far as I am concerned, they lied through their teeth."

Completely fair point. One can point to many interviews where this was at least implied.

Yet in the next breath:

"We paid for the past games, and we paid for the DLC. The ending was terrible, we are well within our rights"

I'm owed.

See the difference?

#20986
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wordson wrote...

 more like this...

http://imgur.com/lgPmD


This!

This so god damn much

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Thermorium wrote...

 So the twitter post by Holly Conrad
That was posted earlier, was replied to by Jessica Merizan (the community manager

Has now been retweeted by the development director https://twitter.com/#!/robinmayne
And it seems from later tweets that Holly also believes that the indoctrination theory is true, So, maybe a bit of hope?


It seems like everyday we get just a little more hope that this was intentional. It is not full blown yet, but still as long as it keeps getting better.

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babachewie wrote...

I think the endings had to be some what the same. Mainly because its the end. When they start a new trilogy they would have to pick a new canon and i think they wanted to not have so many ending choices and people be mad that they didnt pick theirs. The one thing we can expect is the mass relays being gone. I think thats what they really wanted to set up for whatever comes next.


That isn't the point, the point is that they realised this problem (that if they intend to make a future game, they can't if they differentiate them too much) and then fixed it. Only issue is that they've fixed it by making ALL options the bad ending. This makes another problem, in that now because of them leaving only three bad endings, they can't continue the franchise much further without a true canon (which they were trying to avoid) anyway. They've stopped water draining out of one hole by making an equal, if not bigger hole. Now we're all stuck with bad endings, that are riddled with plot holes and make absolutely no sense. It seriously seems as though Bioware gave the job of writing the endings to the inexperienced janitor. They haven't given us what we wanted, or given us a plausible or possible future.

Mind you, if they do release a future game, I pray to god that they DON'T make us import. With the damage that they've done to it, I'd honestly prefer if the last game was all told by a drunken crew-member of the Normandy, or some other excuse, because they've essentially ruined the entire thing. They could have made a good, Halo-esque ending, by which I mean that they tied up the loose ends, but still left space for more strings to be tied, and we would all be happy and 89% of the community wouldn't be unsatisfied with the three shambolic endings that have been forced down our throats.

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D249 wrote...

I think the ending is great and the Shepard has to die. Shepard saving the universe and then everything is shiny would just suck in my opinion.


So what was the point of the story and Shepard dying them?  He dies and what he did leads to disaster for everyone and everything he loves that he leaves behind?  Please tell me the point of the 3 games, I would really like to know.

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Twitter posts by developers and others seems the Indoctrination theory is true- the Reapers won.

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TamiBx wrote...

This guy: https://twitter.com/#!/pkollar

you have to scroll down a little to see it, since everyone is now attacking him on twitter...

(and for some reason, BSN won't let me make that a link...sorry about that)


Thank you!

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I think the ending is great and the Shepard has to die. Shepard saving the universe and then everything is shiny would just suck in my opinion.


In my opinion, even if Shepard survives and has 2-3 little blue children, it would not be a "Good" end, but a "Happy" end. There is no good end to this. Billions lost their lives, the last assault on the Reapers took many casualties. Even if Shepard survives, there are so many dead to mourn. Thessia, Rannoch, Earth, Tuchanka, Palavan...they all have to be build up again. A hard task.

Without a doubt, Shepard beeing killed in one end is alright, as long as it makes sense and explains us why our choices matter. But even with Shepard alive, this "good" ending would only be an "acceptable" ending.

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JediNg wrote...

XenoAlbedo wrote...

How could anybody like these endings? Not only are they sad, they are so stupid and full of plot holes that if the sadness, stupidity, and plot holes were stacked up, it would be a mountain of crap so large that it would reach the galactic core, in which a black hole would suck it in and pull Earth in with it.


Sad is acceptable if it made complete sense and 'sends off' the series properly.  Ever complete the Xenosaga series?  (Xenosaga episode I, II, III).  Yeah.  The ending was sort of reminiscient of Xenosaga episode III..  cept Xenosaga's ending made sense in the context of their own universe.


And that keeping in mind, Xenogears takes place after Xenosaga. (There's a lot of ****** over this and name change insanity)

Xenosaga didn't depress me because I KNEW Xenogears takes place *after* Xenosaga (nevermind the wankery associated with it) and I was more invested in Xenogears' characters than with Xenosaga's characters anyway x_x and that game series had a lot of problems with the original Xenogears team being kicked off of Xenosaga Ep II and Ziggy's story being cut out for a cell phone game. (WTH.)

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Anyone here live in Denmark?
Sorry guys don't mean to sneak that in here but kind of screwed on my xbox power supply and need to get one...please PM me if you live nearby (ideally Copenhagen).

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Thermorium wrote...

So the twitter post by Holly Conrad
That was posted earlier, was replied to by Jessica Merizan (the community manager


Has now been retweeted by the development director https://twitter.com/#!/robinmayne

And it seems from later tweets that Holly also believes that the indoctrination theory is true, So, maybe a bit of hope?


Just because a professional cosplayer thinks it's true doesn't mean that's what's actually true. Also I'm just now realizing I saw her at PAX East last year, haha. Managed to ask her for a photo, too :)

Erm, anyways, has anyone else continued to have trouble sleeping because of this?

#20996
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Hey everyone.

Fleet Signature Update:
I put "@RetakeMassEffect" instead of "@RetakeME3" in the signatures.
I deleted them from Photobucket but their servers take some time to "recognize" the deletion so I had to wait until they gave errors to re-upload the new sigs.

Currently some are working and some are not. Some also look like they lost some quality when being uploaded.

Working on fixing everything now

Sorry for all the confusion!

#20997
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cerberus1701 wrote...

rethas wrote...

cerberus1701

You basically scanned over all the points I made with no real come back to the questions raise, which then someone repeated.

Either you don't play many video games or you are doing this because you are now enjoying it.

This is not a normal recation and not a normal scale, to say it is would just be a lie.

You should probably check out the poll, facebook groups and twitter if you think it is just a few hundred rabid fanboys.

You enjoyed the ending, that's great.

The people posting here didn't. What's your issue?


And you didn't read mine, apparently, so let's call it even.

For the record, Fanboy/girl rage on a game is not uncommon. Go to, say, Call of Duty, "This game completely sucks." is most of the site. It is for MW3. It was for Black Ops. It was for WaW. They rage on Twitter. They rage on FB, too. That's not special.

I don't have a problem with the endings. That said, I wouldn't care if BW wanted to put in the "happy" one and would pretty much definitely pay for it.

My only issue is and always has been the sense that some people here think they're *owed* a better ending. You WANT one. You're not entitled to it. BW doesn't care that you bought the CEs on day one. They don't care that you have the coffee mug.

They don't care that you've been emotionally distraught for days. Anything that just feeds into the fanboy stereotype in the things you post just gives them reason to dismiss it.

Keep anything other than "disappointment" and "why" out of it if you want to get anywhere.


Ok, I don't normally wade into these conversations, but I will.

22 years a gamer, 17 years on the net...I have NEVER seen backlash like this, so quickly, and so plentiful.  20,000 votes in the first 7 days of release, massive activity by lots of individuals in the forums, numbers of people growing daily...

Normally, the people that dislike a game are in the minority, usually you only see a few hundred at most in a poll...this time, the people that like the endings that they've given us are in the minority, while the people that want them changed or added to are in the majority.

Think about it.

#20998
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TamiBx wrote...

hector7rau wrote...

TamiBx wrote...

*snip*


Link or it didn't happen


This guy: https://twitter.com/#!/pkollar

you have to scroll down a little to see it, since everyone is now attacking him on twitter...

(and for some reason, BSN won't let me make that a link...sorry about that)


Oh my. Yeah, his twitter is being bombarded by a few dozen orbital strikes.

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cerberus1701 wrote...

To all the people slamming me....accusing me of "making things up:

Rob8228:

"Not only did we pay for ir, we were promised our choices would impact the game. So, if this really is the end, as far as I am concerned, they lied through their teeth."

Completely fair point. One can point to many interviews where this was at least implied.

Yet in the next breath:

"We paid for the past games, and we paid for the DLC. The ending was terrible, we are well within our rights"

I'm owed.

See the difference?


If I am promised something and do not receive it after I paid for it, then yes I am owed. If you can't see that I can't help you. If they told me I was being forced into one ending, I wouldn't be thrilled with the ending we have now, I might even voice my displeasure for it, but I certainly would not feel like they owe me the different endings they promised.

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Rob8228 wrote...

Thermorium wrote...

 So the twitter post by Holly Conrad
That was posted earlier, was replied to by Jessica Merizan (the community manager

Has now been retweeted by the development director https://twitter.com/#!/robinmayne
And it seems from later tweets that Holly also believes that the indoctrination theory is true, So, maybe a bit of hope?


It seems like everyday we get just a little more hope that this was intentional. It is not full blown yet, but still as long as it keeps getting better.


Jessia Merizan seems like a good person. She's not mocking or insulting us and she actually listens which is awesome. :happy: