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[montanaxchick222]

AlphaJarmel wrote...

I would pay for Happy Ending DLC. No joke.

I invested years of my life into caring for Shepard and this game, and I am sorely disappointed with the ending options. Even with the paragon vs. renegade the ending is the same. The only choices are: dead reapers, everybody gets along, or reapers leave forever. But in the end Shepard still dies (or takes a breath...), all is unknown. Bioware has basically ended everything on a generic cliff-hanger. It's the last game; all is supposed to be revealed. Instead all we know is that a couple of people and Joker made it out. Every "choice" presented to us was the same, and it all ended badly. If Shepard dies, who cares whether the reapers live or die? And that was basically what we were presented with. What happened to all the fun we had with stacking up the perfect choices to get the perfect endings? Do you mean to tell me that even if we complete every single mission, and delve into all the little easter eggs, and painstakingly stress over making the right choices the game still ends the same? That at the most we get a ten second clip of Shepard laying in a pile of rubble? That's cruel... sorry, but it's true. 

[Wolfgang_Ocelot]

xeNNN wrote...

Wolfgang_Ocelot wrote...

JediNg wrote...

XenoAlbedo wrote...

How could anybody like these endings? Not only are they sad, they are so stupid and full of plot holes that if the sadness, stupidity, and plot holes were stacked up, it would be a mountain of crap so large that it would reach the galactic core, in which a black hole would suck it in and pull Earth in with it.

Sad is acceptable if it made complete sense and 'sends off' the series properly. Ever complete the Xenosaga series? (Xenosaga episode I, II, III). Yeah. The ending was sort of reminiscient of Xenosaga episode III.. cept Xenosaga's ending made sense in the context of their own universe.

the reason that felt similar was because they didn't have funding to continue and rushed to end it in III. It was originally planned to be a 6 part epic.

could you imagen mass effect being a 6 part epic 0.o lmao

haha that would be something XD

[Elric70]

I finished the game last night and the ending really did not do it for me at all, the credits was longer than the actual ending by a long shot and to sit through all that just for a stargazer to say" yep and that's the story as it went" For that matter they could have at least done a Road Warrior ending as in that is the last I ever saw of him. They completely dropped the ball on the closure for all the other characters that were your comrades and that you went through much effort and pain to befriend, save, help, or mourn along the way. In all honesty all I wanted and expected was that Shepard was going to die, in order to end the reaper threat, but would have been happy seeing what happened to all the friends and allies he made, and seeing Liara sitting on a porch somewhere with my baby Asari telling her all about her Poppa, or writing her memoirs or something that makes it seem like it was all worth it. Instead we get a some people are alive but they are all equally screwed ending which never even goes on to show what happened to everyone, if it wasn't for the farewell vid phone you wouldn't even see a lot of your squadmates at all. I hope they decide to roll out a better over all ending.

[Rob8228]

J5550123 wrote...

Rob8228 wrote...

Thermorium wrote...

 So the twitter post by Holly Conrad
That was posted earlier, was replied to by Jessica Merizan (the community manager

Has now been retweeted by the development director https://twitter.com/#!/robinmayne
And it seems from later tweets that Holly also believes that the indoctrination theory is true, So, maybe a bit of hope?

It seems like everyday we get just a little more hope that this was intentional. It is not full blown yet, but still as long as it keeps getting better.

Jessia Merizan seems like a good person. She's not mocking or insulting us and she actually listens which is awesome. :happy:

I agree. Merizan and Gamble have both acknowedged that they hear us, just they can't say anything yet. I understand that.

[hector7rau]

Sl4sh3r wrote...

Hey everyone.

Fleet Signature Update:
I put "@RetakeMassEffect" instead of "@RetakeME3" in the signatures.
I deleted them from Photobucket but their servers take some time to "recognize" the deletion so I had to wait until they gave errors to re-upload the new sigs.

Currently some are working and some are not. Some also look like they lost some quality when being uploaded.

Working on fixing everything now

Sorry for all the confusion!

Im glad you came to clarify that. Then again thanks for the effort.

[Dj14365]

TSC_1 wrote...

I also wonder how many played the game to completion. I mean, reviewers have a lot of games to review. They often don't finish them. And, if you hadn't personally experienced the ME3 ending, could you possibly think that the level of irritation we're showing is justified? Especially if you played the first ten hours of the game?

I think many critics and reviewers just haven't seen how bad this is.

I think that just finishing the third isn't enough to truly understand how we all feel. I am under the assumption that the people that just jumped into the series for ME3 don't have the connection that I have and will be less critical of the ending. I wouldn't be surprised if the critics who say we are a bunch of crybabies fall in the same boat. BW you made a game that was five minutes from perfection. Please fix this.

[Game_Fan_85]

ArmyKnifeX wrote...

Erm, anyways, has anyone else continued to have trouble sleeping because of this?

Me, how do I make the dreams stop?

[laughing sherpa girl]

xeNNN wrote...

Wolfgang_Ocelot wrote...

JediNg wrote...

XenoAlbedo wrote...

How could anybody like these endings? Not only are they sad, they are so stupid and full of plot holes that if the sadness, stupidity, and plot holes were stacked up, it would be a mountain of crap so large that it would reach the galactic core, in which a black hole would suck it in and pull Earth in with it.

Sad is acceptable if it made complete sense and 'sends off' the series properly. Ever complete the Xenosaga series? (Xenosaga episode I, II, III). Yeah. The ending was sort of reminiscient of Xenosaga episode III.. cept Xenosaga's ending made sense in the context of their own universe.

the reason that felt similar was because they didn't have funding to continue and rushed to end it in III. It was originally planned to be a 6 part epic.

could you imagen mass effect being a 6 part epic 0.o lmao

imagen? No, believe? the more i think about it, the more i have to wonder..  I mean, we go along for five years of storyline that is rock solid and progressive within a predictable limit, then all of a sudden, in the last ten minutes, BANG! we're on some kind of frikkin acid trip or something. There is nothing connected with the other 98% of the game at all beyond shepard and the reapers. NO company could be that stupid could they?? Annoying and as infuriating as it is,  Theres more at work here than is evident, but if this IS the case, and a real ending hasnt been seen yet, then Bioware has gone the route of using the real ending as a cash cow wherein in order to find it, you have to buy future DLC content.

[ArmyKnifeX]

J5550123 wrote...
Jessia Merizan seems like a good person. She's not mocking or insulting us and she actually listens which is awesome. :happy:

But don't forget that at the end of the day it's still her job to promote ME3. So if she had the same qualms about the ending she kinda can't publicly state them... which must be a crappy position to be stuck in, if it's the case

[mulder1199]

Rob8228 wrote...

Thermorium wrote...

 So the twitter post by Holly Conrad
That was posted earlier, was replied to by Jessica Merizan (the community manager

Has now been retweeted by the development director https://twitter.com/#!/robinmayne
And it seems from later tweets that Holly also believes that the indoctrination theory is true, So, maybe a bit of hope?

It seems like everyday we get just a little more hope that this was intentional. It is not full blown yet, but still as long as it keeps getting better.

what i took from that twitter is they are going to try to explain away the ending, or they read somebody's post and their going to redo the ending and say 'yep the little boy' took control of you, you're magically out of it and now it's time to finish up...anybody else?

[firas333]

One stupid thing about indoctrination theory is the fact that war assets matter, I mean how does playing more MP or scanning all planets make Shephard get different hallucinations?

[Thermorium]

ArmyKnifeX wrote...

Thermorium wrote...

So the twitter post by Holly Conrad
That was posted earlier, was replied to by Jessica Merizan (the community manager


Has now been retweeted by the development director https://twitter.com/#!/robinmayne

And it seems from later tweets that Holly also believes that the indoctrination theory is true, So, maybe a bit of hope?

Just because a professional cosplayer thinks it's true doesn't mean that's what's actually true. Also I'm just now realizing I saw her at PAX East last year, haha. Managed to ask her for a photo, too

Erm, anyways, has anyone else continued to have trouble sleeping because of this?

Point was, it was retweeted by the development director Robin Mayne, so that kinda makes me think we're on the right track there

[Anthadlas]

@ Cerberus1701
http://social.biowar...06/polls/28989/

Enough said, 89% of people think it is ****
Don't whine about sample size or it just being bsn users, 27000+ people is easily big enough to give accurate results.

Modifié par Wraith 02, 12 mars 2012 - 07:32 .

[Kloborgg711]

cerberus1701 wrote...

To all the people slamming me....accusing me of "making things up:

Rob8228:

"Not only did we pay for ir, we were promised our choices would impact the game. So, if this really is the end, as far as I am concerned, they lied through their teeth."

Completely fair point. One can point to many interviews where this was at least implied.

Yet in the next breath:

"We paid for the past games, and we paid for the DLC. The ending was terrible, we are well within our rights"

I'm owed.

See the difference?

No, I don't.
S/he said she was lied to about a product she bought. You say you agree.
As a direct result of that, s/he felt that s/he was "within (his/her) rights" to get what was promised. All of the sudden you have an enormous problem with the whole situation. We are all within our rights the feel entitled, you complaining won't fix that. You're achieveing nothing but a spreading negativity through a thread that we're trying to keep positive. You've already given up any chance of civil discussion with your insults of "fanboyism" and "you're not special". That's why you're a troll. This is the last time I'm clarifying this. I hope you understand that and stop wasting everyone's time. More likely, you'll stay and cause more trouble. Too bad, what else can I say? 

Modifié par Kloborgg711, 12 mars 2012 - 07:33 .

[laughing sherpa girl]

Game_Fan_85 wrote...

ArmyKnifeX wrote...

Erm, anyways, has anyone else continued to have trouble sleeping because of this?

Me, how do I make the dreams stop?

by talking about it, in here with  us.. its the same way combat veterans manage their nightmares.. I know, I are one..

[TamiBx]

ArmyKnifeX wrote...

Erm, anyways, has anyone else continued to have trouble sleeping because of this?

Me. All I dream about is "synthesis" or "I need 200 more EMS so my Shepard will be able to save Earth" and then it keeps repeating itself...this is ridiculous. lol 

[Lebrine]

Dj14365 wrote...

TSC_1 wrote...

I also wonder how many played the game to completion. I mean, reviewers have a lot of games to review. They often don't finish them. And, if you hadn't personally experienced the ME3 ending, could you possibly think that the level of irritation we're showing is justified? Especially if you played the first ten hours of the game?

I think many critics and reviewers just haven't seen how bad this is.

I think that just finishing the third isn't enough to truly understand how we all feel. I am under the assumption that the people that just jumped into the series for ME3 don't have the connection that I have and will be less critical of the ending. I wouldn't be surprised if the critics who say we are a bunch of crybabies fall in the same boat. BW you made a game that was five minutes from perfection. Please fix this.

nah most critics/reviewers will stick up for Bioware regardless, they wudnt want to lose their money/free games/early access by going against a games company

[cotheer]

Darkieus wrote...

Twitter posts by developers and others seems the Indoctrination theory is true- the Reapers won.

Link or i... well you know the rest.

[Nathos]

Thermorium wrote...

 So the twitter post by Holly Conrad
That was posted earlier, was replied to by Jessica Merizan (the community manager

Has now been retweeted by the development director https://twitter.com/#!/robinmayne
And it seems from later tweets that Holly also believes that the indoctrination theory is true, So, maybe a bit of hope?

I knew this would happen. I remember some guy saying that first the developers ignore us hoping that we will forget about it, then they say we don't get the ending and try to create a new meaning.

[karambiatos]

firas333 wrote...

One stupid thing about indoctrination theory is the fact that war assets matter, I mean how does playing more MP or scanning all planets make Shephard get different hallucinations?

well there are more ships to fight the reapers, meaning more reapers would be destroyed, meaning the strength of their indoctrination process is weaker and takes longer.
its all BS anyway

Modifié par karambiatos, 12 mars 2012 - 07:34 .

[babachewie]

GroverA125 wrote...

babachewie wrote...

I think the endings had to be some what the same. Mainly because its the end. When they start a new trilogy they would have to pick a new canon and i think they wanted to not have so many ending choices and people be mad that they didnt pick theirs. The one thing we can expect is the mass relays being gone. I think thats what they really wanted to set up for whatever comes next.

That isn't the point, the point is that they realised this problem (that if they intend to make a future game, they can't if they differentiate them too much) and then fixed it. Only issue is that they've fixed it by making ALL options the bad ending. This makes another problem, in that now because of them leaving only three bad endings, they can't continue the franchise much further without a true canon (which they were trying to avoid) anyway. They've stopped water draining out of one hole by making an equal, if not bigger hole. Now we're all stuck with bad endings, that are riddled with plot holes and make absolutely no sense. It seriously seems as though Bioware gave the job of writing the endings to the inexperienced janitor. They haven't given us what we wanted, or given us a plausible or possible future.

Mind you, if they do release a future game, I pray to god that they DON'T make us import. With the damage that they've done to it, I'd honestly prefer if the last game was all told by a drunken crew-member of the Normandy, or some other excuse, because they've essentially ruined the entire thing. They could have made a good, Halo-esque ending, by which I mean that they tied up the loose ends, but still left space for more strings to be tied, and we would all be happy and 89% of the community wouldn't be unsatisfied with the three shambolic endings that have been forced down our throats.

I dont really believe they are "bad" endings. Either way you stop the reapers which was the point. Life goes on proven in the epilogue. Shepard can live proven in the secret ending. Just because you don't ride off into the sunset doesnt make it a bad ending. Maybe most people just don't understand it. Everyone just wants to make wild accusations and theorys. i think they have a plan and if it turns out to be awesome then a lot of people are gonna look like jackasses. 

[TamiBx]

Guys, don't forget to vote here too!! 
gamerant.com/mass-effect-3-game-ending-fan-petition-johnj-137926/

[Matt_gekko88]

Let Shepard survive.

And then - honeymoon.

Modifié par Matt_gekko88, 12 mars 2012 - 07:35 .

[ArmyKnifeX]

Kloborgg711 wrote...

cerberus1701 wrote...

To all the people slamming me....accusing me of "making things up:

Rob8228:

"Not only did we pay for ir, we were promised our choices would impact the game. So, if this really is the end, as far as I am concerned, they lied through their teeth."

Completely fair point. One can point to many interviews where this was at least implied.

Yet in the next breath:

"We paid for the past games, and we paid for the DLC. The ending was terrible, we are well within our rights"

I'm owed.

See the difference?

No, I don't.
S/he said she was lied to about a product she bought. You say you agree.
As a direct result of that, s/he felt that s/he was "within (her) rights" to get what was promised. All of the sudden you have an enormous problem with the whole situation. We are all within our rights the feel entitled, you complaining won't fix that. You're achieveing nothing but a spreading negativity through a thread that we're trying to keep positive. You've already given up any chance of civil discussion with your insults of "fanboyism" and "you're not special". That's why you're a troll. This is the last time I'm clarifying this. I hope you understand that and stop wasting everyone's time. More likely, you'll stay and cause more trouble. Too bad, what else can I say? 

I also feel like the ending we were given was completely out of context given the entire series - in theme, execution, and outcome. Reading more of Philip Kollar's tweets, the guy is just coming off like an arrogant jerk to me defending "artists". I don't know about you, but I don't see why art has to be something immutable when finished. In fact, a LOT of modern artists deconstruct this very concept and create mutable, changing, community-based or community-influenced art.

[BCMakoto]

I don't believe the Reapers won. If any, then they have temporarily got the advantage. If Shepard takes a deep breath and he is alive...well...my Shepard would fight on, even with a heavy pistol if it is necessary. I don't think that everything we did in the past years had no meaning...so the enemy simply won.

BUT I also don't think they are simply going to explain the ending in a thread. People don't want to read a wall of text of analysis. They want pictures, music and emotion. I rather think that they either have: A plan to make this the most awesome PR campaign ever, even if they took me two days of sleep, or they are screwing us big time. We will see...