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[mulder1199]

Fox544 wrote...

Yeah I'm shocked Bioware is letting an 844 page thread of ME3 ending hate stay. I thought for sure half of us would see the ban hammer by now.

naw, new terms of use say right there we have the right to say their product ending stinks (paraphrasing)

just don't attack folks....

also, it would look bad if the monster thread/polls that's being talked about on other sites are magically erased

[AdrynBliss]

Having now seen the end, or should I say my end, in context i'm surprised to find I don't actually mind it that much, even kinda satisfied with it. I'm even fairly embarrassed by some of the things I said about it before seeing it myself.

The 'starkid' did a ghostbusters and used an image from shep's mind as a form to interact with him and it wasn't exactly a stretch of the imagination to figure that after shep went into the beam the rest of the crew, unable to reach it either had joker pick them up or shuttled up to it in an effort to approach the citadel then when it was about to do its thing unable to know exactly what the effect would be they got the hell away from it.

Not having the right to fundamentally alter the DNA of trillions of people whether they liked it or not and not willing to be the one to control the reapers I just blew the damn thing up.

As far as i'm aware the relays did not blow up and the Normandy no doubt has a beefy distress signal, where they might have crashed could be extrapolated from their last known location and trajectory so help would be on the way when they don't report in.

Would I like a long epilogue explaining all the details and what happened to everyone? sure, i'm one of those gamers that eats that stuff up but i wouldn't categorize not having that as 'wrong'

Modifié par AdrynBliss, 12 mars 2012 - 08:28 .

[FugitiveMind]

ARCTIC EAGLE wrote...

Rosery99 wrote...

I was terrified Bioware had finally just had it and chosen to silence us. But then I remembered we can't be silenced, we are the fans. If they silence us here, we go to FB, we write them letters. We hold the god damn line.

You can never stop the signal 

I grinned, and visualized thane's voice coming out of EDI:

He killed me Shephard... killed me with a sword

[ARCTIC EAGLE]

Wow we're are so close to 30,000 votes...lets keep on telling people about this and keep people voting, make sure Bioware gets the message http://social.biowar...06/polls/28989/

[Rosery99]

Remember if you have friends, direct them here, direct them to our other threads and sites. Don't hesistate if there hurting or angry, send them, tell them they can still get an ending to be happy with, proud of and an ending that will make the end of our wonderful journey with Shepard meaningful. Every vote counts, every single one, if you havent voted and you're reading this do it now! Posts may not equate people but votes? Votes sure as hell do.

[TamiBx]

TSC_1 wrote...

Interesting piece on Ars Technica.

Oh my, they already now about PAX East...

[mulder1199]

if anybody missed it before.....i had a chance to play ME3 all weekend, i declined....watched ninja warrior instead....

if the contestants didn't get the outcome they wanted, they could try harder they next time they took the course and change the outcome....

[Dj14365]

msmpsn wrote...

I have no idea if anyone has mentioned this since the thread is way too big to keep up, but on Twitter Chris has said:

Faulkner ‏ @KenRaves

@BioEvilChris During the final run, just before the end, are the two squadmates with you killed? I understand if you can't answer.

 Chris Priestly ‏ @BioEvilChris

 

@KenRaves I don't think we've revealed that yet. Sorry.

I had tali with me (she was my LI) and then in the random crash scene she was with joker and edi so It's possible that at least one lives.

[Sl4sh3r]

I'M A LIAR
something is still wrong....

Modifié par Sl4sh3r, 12 mars 2012 - 08:30 .

[Darth Krytie]

Fox544 wrote...

Yeah I'm shocked Bioware is letting an 844 page thread of ME3 ending hate stay. I thought for sure half of us would see the ban hammer by now.

They only lock threads that break rules, not for expressing opnions.


I admit that I was a bit disappointed. I felt the end was satisfying, in some respects, but in others...not so much. I wish there was more differences between the three choices. I also wish there was an ending where Liara and Mer (my femShep) could go off and make blue babies.

Now, I'm starting my Garrusmance playthrough and I want even more to have an ending where Garrus and Mer live together forever happily.

I am curious as to what sort of DLC they're gonna produce. Because they'd be crazy not to put out more DLC.

Whatever happens, I just want an option to go off into the sunset with my LI. I don't even care if the DLC is making of viable colony on random world where Joker lands. and discovering ruins and finding bears and random survivors in the woods. Just give Garrus and Mer a bar and some drinks and a bed, please.

[beyondsolo]

TamiBx wrote...

Fox544 wrote...

Yeah I'm shocked Bioware is letting an 844 page thread of ME3 ending hate stay. I thought for sure half of us would see the ban hammer by now.

We are staying on topic, not using bad language, and not hating on anyone, so..technically they have no reason to shut down this thread. I haven't seen a "I hate bioware and I wanna shoot everyone who buys their games" response here. 
*of course that was an extreme example...but you get the point *

I agree. The thread has remained largely civilized (at least since I've been following). And it's not because we hate BioWare. Personally, I love BioWare and their work. And if it this was about any other game, I'd just shrug and move on. But Mass Effect is important to me and I'm glad to see that I'm not alone.

[Crossleft]

Hey guys its my first time actually posting on here (been lurking since I beat the game wednesday) just wanted to chime in and let you know that theres a lot of avid fans out there who aren't on the forums who are just as disappointed by the endings as we are. I know a lot of my friends and acquaintances from college and whatnot are seriously upset about this but unlikely to get on here and talk about it. So to those naysayers who are making it sound like the only people who are upset are the fanboys on the internet I can tell you for a fact that a vast majority of the casual gamers really hate these endings too.

[Rob8228]

Dj14365 wrote...

msmpsn wrote...

I have no idea if anyone has mentioned this since the thread is way too big to keep up, but on Twitter Chris has said:

Faulkner ‏ @KenRaves

@BioEvilChris During the final run, just before the end, are the two squadmates with you killed? I understand if you can't answer.

 Chris Priestly ‏ @BioEvilChris

 

@KenRaves I don't think we've revealed that yet. Sorry.

I had tali with me (she was my LI) and then in the random crash scene she was with joker and edi so It's possible that at least one lives.

The point is, how are they magically on the Normandy? The person asking that is trying to get a slip-up to prove the indoctination theory since there is no reason anyone with you on the final charge survives, and to a greater extent, somehow ends up on the Normandy.

[TamiBx]

TSC_1 wrote...

Interesting piece on Ars Technica.

"This isn't 100 percent true; there are 16 or so distinct variations on the Mass Effect 3 ending, depending on how you're counting, and some of them show how previous player choices can have profound consequences for the fate of major characters and even entire planets. "

wait...are they couting the different flashbacks (if your LI shows up, or if Ash shows up instead of Kaidan) as different endings too? Because there is no way the 16 endings are distinct. I'm sorry, nobody has been able to get them. Even if you destroyed the collector's base, if you have a high enough EMS, it doesn't really matter; it will all lead to 3 lights, 2 different cut scenes. 

Modifié par TamiBx, 12 mars 2012 - 08:31 .

[ARCTIC EAGLE]

Crossleft wrote...

Hey guys its my first time actually posting on here (been lurking since I beat the game wednesday) just wanted to chime in and let you know that theres a lot of avid fans out there who aren't on the forums who are just as disappointed by the endings as we are. I know a lot of my friends and acquaintances from college and whatnot are seriously upset about this but unlikely to get on here and talk about it. So to those naysayers who are making it sound like the only people who are upset are the fanboys on the internet I can tell you for a fact that a vast majority of the casual gamers really hate these endings too.

good to know, help us get the word out, tweet/text/message your friends the link to this poll: http://social.biowar...06/polls/28989/  we need to get as many people as we can to voice their discontent 

[Kloborgg711]

But this isn't 845 pages of "hate".
We're saying

Hey, Bioware, we love Mass Effect. We love it a lot. You did an outstanding job on 99% of it. Unfortunately, the consensus of the majority is that the endings really didn't do the story justice. With options for alternative endings, we truly believe this game could shine out as the pinnacle of this generation, for both gaming and sc-fi. We, your loyal fans, are on our knees requesting the closure we've been wanting for years. Please consider our voice and consider obliging as a token of faith to your playerbase. Thanks!

It seems like everyone else pictures us as "LOL WTF BIOWAER U SUX. I WANTED NO1 TO DIE N INSTED I CANT ACHEEV TOTAL VICTORY. I PAY FOR UR FOOD SO GIMME MY ENDING THAT I WANT. IM NEVAR BUYING BIOWAER AGEN"

[mulder1199]

Crossleft wrote...

Hey guys its my first time actually posting on here (been lurking since I beat the game wednesday) just wanted to chime in and let you know that theres a lot of avid fans out there who aren't on the forums who are just as disappointed by the endings as we are. I know a lot of my friends and acquaintances from college and whatnot are seriously upset about this but unlikely to get on here and talk about it. So to those naysayers who are making it sound like the only people who are upset are the fanboys on the internet I can tell you for a fact that a vast majority of the casual gamers really hate these endings too.

of course casual gamers do....esp if they have only played me3...they def would want to get a good ending.....this is why i'm so verklempt about the end...

glad to have you aboard....if your friends and others are into it enough to get on here like us and complain, at least have them vote and like the takebackmasseffect on facebook...

[Ronnocloki]

I simply cannot accept that Shepard, Shepard of all people, simply stood there and accepted what the Catalyst said rather than pointing out the glaring logical flaws in its argument. This inconsistency with the main characters portrayal combined with a lack of closure with regards to pretty much every major character and subplot is simply infuriating.

[cerberus1701]

Experimentel wrote...

AwesomeName wrote...

babachewie wrote...

savionen wrote...

babachewie wrote...

I dont really believe they are "bad" endings. Either way you stop the reapers which was the point. Life goes on proven in the epilogue. Shepard can live proven in the secret ending. Just because you don't ride off into the sunset doesnt make it a bad ending. Maybe most people just don't understand it. Everyone just wants to make wild accusations and theorys. i think they have a plan and if it turns out to be awesome then a lot of people are gonna look like jackasses. 

Well....

Option A) You try to control the reapers, which is supposed to be impossible, and since Shepard dies, it seems more like temporary control. Who says they won't come back? Also you're suddenly just the Illusive Man.

Option  You ignore free-will and the variety of life, and force everyone to be a mix of organic and synthetic.

Option C) You kill almost everyone in the galaxy, directly or indirectly.

There's no proof you kill almost everyone in the galaxy. They just said synthetics. you can control the reapers and live if your rating is high and you destroyed the collecter base and I agree I dont really like the synthesis option.

Yeah option C is news to me :/  You only kill the Reapers and any synthetic technology - otherwise everyone is saved and is given all the time in the world to develop.  I mean hell, the Reapers were doing this for millions of years - give galactic civilisation a few hundred and I wouldn't be surprised if they crack relay technology for themselves.  They would certainly be spacefaring and reunited before what would have been another cycle.

Well yes but during that time tons of quarians or turians would die due to lack of supplies for their diets. I imagine there would be huge squabbles over supplies, given that Earth was mostly destroyed and the Sol system mostly drained of resources this far in the future.

Why? The Quarians grow their own food.

On their ships. They eat the same types of food that Turians eat.

It wouldn't be a masive undertaking to get the Turians doing the same thing.

And Earth would be pretty wrecked, but not razed. It'd be tough. But the combined fleets could start over on Earth.

With Earth.

[laughing sherpa girl]

FugitiveMind wrote...

ARCTIC EAGLE wrote...

Rosery99 wrote...

I was terrified Bioware had finally just had it and chosen to silence us. But then I remembered we can't be silenced, we are the fans. If they silence us here, we go to FB, we write them letters. We hold the god damn line.

You can never stop the signal 

I grinned, and visualized thane's voice coming out of EDI:

He killed me Shephard... killed me with a sword

ROFLMAO:: All hail Mr Universe ::

[KaiserinKai]

cerberus1701 wrote...

Rob8228 wrote...

cerberus1701 wrote...

To all the people slamming me....accusing me of "making things up:

Rob8228:

"Not only did we pay for ir, we were promised our choices would impact the game. So, if this really is the end, as far as I am concerned, they lied through their teeth."

Completely fair point. One can point to many interviews where this was at least implied.

Yet in the next breath:

"We paid for the past games, and we paid for the DLC. The ending was terrible, we are well within our rights"

I'm owed.

See the difference?

If I am promised something and do not receive it after I paid for it, then yes I am owed. If you can't see that I can't help you. If they told me I was being forced into one ending, I wouldn't be thrilled with the ending we have now, I might even voice my displeasure for it, but I certainly would not feel like they owe me the different endings they promised.

I can and do see that. It was implied. And implied for a while.

Players were promised different endings. Technically that's what happened, but the outcomes were so minimally different that you can argue with a straight face that it didn't matter.

But what if they had had seperate and distinct endings, yet none of them were particularly "good?" As in, don't put Shep or his crew back together. Or him sawing 2x4s for the house on Rannoch, would it still be an issue?

Does different have to mean "happy" or just "happier than this?" Would you and others be cool with the latter?

I'd be cool with endings that aren't filled with plot holes, ones that keep Shepard in character, no "Space Magic", I want logic that actually makes sence, no Joker flying away for no reason with our party members magically teleporting on board, and actually give us an epilogue. If he/she has to die to save the galaxy I'd accept that. I just want it to make sense and to see what hapens after. I want solid endings that give me closure, I don't need Rainbows and Unicorns.

Modifié par KaiserinKai, 12 mars 2012 - 08:34 .

[Crossleft]

ARCTIC EAGLE wrote...

Crossleft wrote...

Hey guys its my first time actually posting on here (been lurking since I beat the game wednesday) just wanted to chime in and let you know that theres a lot of avid fans out there who aren't on the forums who are just as disappointed by the endings as we are. I know a lot of my friends and acquaintances from college and whatnot are seriously upset about this but unlikely to get on here and talk about it. So to those naysayers who are making it sound like the only people who are upset are the fanboys on the internet I can tell you for a fact that a vast majority of the casual gamers really hate these endings too.

good to know, help us get the word out, tweet/text/message your friends the link to this poll: http://social.biowar...06/polls/28989/  we need to get as many people as we can to voice their discontent 

Yep I've been directing them here as they beat the game and encouraging them to make their voices heard.

[Rob8228]

Kloborgg711 wrote...

But this isn't 845 pages of "hate".
We're saying

Hey, Bioware, we love Mass Effect. We love it a lot. You did an outstanding job on 99% of it. Unfortunately, the consensus of the majority is that the endings really didn't do the story justice. With options for alternative endings, we truly believe this game could shine out as the pinnacle of this generation, for both gaming and sc-fi. We, your loyal fans, are on our knees requesting the closure we've been wanting for years. Please consider our voice and consider obliging as a token of faith to your playerbase. Thanks!

It seems like everyone else pictures us as "LOL WTF BIOWAER U SUX. I WANTED NO1 TO DIE N INSTED I CANT ACHEEV TOTAL VICTORY. I PAY FOR UR FOOD SO GIMME MY ENDING THAT I WANT. IM NEVAR BUYING BIOWAER AGEN"

It's convenient to paint us that way. They read a few posts, pick the ones, whiich are the few, that support their arguments, and use those.

[savionen]

Saying there's 16 different endings is a poor argument.

Forgot the name of the RPG, but you could have around 100 different characters in your group, which could live or die. That didn't mean there were 10000 different endings, just because there were tons of different possible combinations, it meant there was 1 ending and then a list of characters that lived or die.

[archangel1996]

I did a bit of publicity in the Italian forum