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I honestly don't see why so many people hate the ending of this game... In my eyes, it was a master piece. Shepard gets nearly vaped by Harbinger, and is lucky to be alive. His other squadmates were picked up by the Normandy so they can assit in the battle (how else can you explain them getting on the Normandy for the final cinematic). Shepard wakes up at an un-known time after being nearly vaped, and gets to the citadel, has a BRILLIANTLY written scene with the Illusive man and Anderson. Shep is forced to shoot his friend, and you then have the oppotunity to kill the Illusive man before he kills Anderson.

The Crucible is linked to the Citadel, and Shepard talks to a Synthetic, who believes the only way to save Organics is by killing advanced synthetic and organic races. Think about that. The Synthetic that controls the reapers, is killing organics, just like he said all advanced synthetics do. I just love that fulfillment right there. 

Now you have a choice, and you HAVE to choose. Because, this is the ONLY way to beat the reapers. You can not defeat the repears conventionally. They outnumber everyone, even combined, it is clear that they grealy out number every other fleet. They have to work so hard just to kill 1 reaper, let alone thousands. There is no way, even combined, that galatic forces can beat the reapers. It can not be done, the races are just fighting back JUST hard enough to buy time for Shepard to find a way to beat them. Is this a plot device? Yes. Does it make sense? Yeah (except for synthesis, that one really doesn't make sense). Both the Paragon and Renegade options are failsafes, probably put in place by the original race that made the reapers, in case the catalyst (or AI controlling the reapers) went out of control, which it obviously did.

So you make your choice, and you have to live with the consequences. Now, here's my thinking. The Normandy was NOT in a mass relay when the explosion hti it. To me, it looked like it was in FTL. And I am sure someone will eventually find the Normandy. No matter which option you pick, every race has PLENTY of FTL capable ships. The destruction of the mass relays isn't an apocalypse, it's merely the destruction of a technology made to direct the growth of various species so the Reapers could predict the level of technology they would have to deal with. Life will go on in the galaxy. The Normandy will eventually be found. There are only so many places they could be realtive to earth if they used FTL. And, if Shepard lives, (which he does if you have a high enough EMS), you can be certain he will not rest till he finds the Normandy.

And this ending doesn't contradict ME1. I have heard some people complain that if the Catalyst is the citadel, then why would Sovereign need to be there. Simple, the catalyst was dormant. The Catalyst probably only activates if there is a problem and the Reapers need guidance on what to do. It's pretty clear that the reapers are self sufficient. They know their orders. They don't need to be controlled every second of everyday. So, the crucible docking to the Citadel activated the Catalyst, AND altered it's programming, allowing Shepard to activate its failsafes with out confrontation.

Forgive any spelling mistakes, I just can't comprehend why people hate this ending so much. This isn't supposed to be a happy ending, there isn't suppose to be one. The Galaxy as we know it just about came to an end. There is no happy way to end a somber story like that. But there is HOPE. The civilizations CAN rebuild with FTL. It will just take a lot longer since they don't have mass relays. Shepard will find the Normandy again. The Reapers, one way or another, will no longer threaten the galaxy.

That's how I view this ending.


I'd love to believe this.  But you are leaving out something very important, and that is Shepard's waking up in a pile of concrete and rebar.  The breath he took as he awoke was the type of breath you do when waking up from a nightmare.

#21202
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Mass Effect ending DLC is pretty much confirmed. I asked Mass Effect on Twitter why they just don't tell everyone if there is another ending or not. They said "Not everybody has finished the game" meaning they don't want their DLC to spoil the ending for them. And that "No new DLC has been announced yet.". If there was no new DLC they would awknowledge fans. They haven't been confirming or disclaiming DLC.

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with the middle road ending Joker gets EDI, at least two of your other crewmembers have hooked up and Shepperd? yeah, after hundreds of hours invested? he gets the shaft no matter what.

They basically pulled a Harry Potter 7 type ending;

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I'm surprised that the forum is getting stressed so much. Surprised, and happy! Hold the line!

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CaduganFaber wrote...

with the middle road ending Joker gets EDI, at least two of your other crewmembers have hooked up and Shepperd? yeah, after hundreds of hours invested? he gets the shaft no matter what.

They basically pulled a Harry Potter 7 type ending;


Harry Potter 7 ENDED BETTER.

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Twitter source ?

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To those who say the ending is fine and it has to end sadly, I have to say if that's what you want, then fine. For me, I worked hard in ME2 to keep my squad alive. There should be options for all the fans, not just those who are into the sad, gut-wrenching stuff. There's this common belief nowadays that everything has to be shades of grey and everything has to end with a sacrifice and sadness because "good endings are lame and overused." Which of course isn't true, it's just a personal preference. Plenty of people still like their happy endings.

I prefer my happy endings, though, and would prefer a choice like I had in ME2, where my actions determine whether it's happy or sad and those who prefer the sad endings could have heir choice as well.

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CaduganFaber wrote...

with the middle road ending Joker gets EDI, at least two of your other crewmembers have hooked up and Shepperd? yeah, after hundreds of hours invested? he gets the shaft no matter what.

They basically pulled a Harry Potter 7 type ending;


Harry Potter? In Harry Potter the main character lives a happy life in a world that can be rebuilt with his love interest. It's almost the exact opposite of ME3.

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CaduganFaber wrote...

They basically pulled a Harry Potter 7 type ending;


Nah, J.K. Rowling did a better job. She wrote a real thrilling happy end. Long way to go BW.

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:D

Modifié par Commander_Fezz, 12 mars 2012 - 09:21 .


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 I think I found a video that accurately describes the Bioware writing process :)

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XIzCarnageXIXZ wrote...

my reaction too me3 ending


That works, but I like this one more. Although, to be honest, I was not laughing.

Modifié par Chatboy 91, 12 mars 2012 - 09:24 .


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I don't know where to ask about the forums so I ask it here... is there an option to see my whole postings I have made? Not only 10?

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Matt_gekko88 wrote...

CaduganFaber wrote...

They basically pulled a Harry Potter 7 type ending;


Nah, J.K. Rowling did a better job. She wrote a real thrilling happy end. Long way to go BW.


The ending to harry potter was filled with loss and also satisfaction. Many beloved people were killed and there were sacrifices and yet we were still given an ending most people loved. The jesus thing actually worked because you know HE CAME BACK TO LIFE! Thats how the jesus trope works, bioware. 

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Chatboy 91 wrote...

I'm surprised that the forum is getting stressed so much. Surprised, and happy! Hold the line!


YES!

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Sashimi_taco wrote...

Matt_gekko88 wrote...

CaduganFaber wrote...

They basically pulled a Harry Potter 7 type ending;


Nah, J.K. Rowling did a better job. She wrote a real thrilling happy end. Long way to go BW.


The ending to harry potter was filled with loss and also satisfaction. Many beloved people were killed and there were sacrifices and yet we were still given an ending most people loved. The jesus thing actually worked because you know HE CAME BACK TO LIFE! Thats how the jesus trope works, bioware. 


Shepard did come back to life... And Shep will do it again! We just need to hold the line! :D

#21217
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Chatboy 91 wrote...

XIzCarnageXIXZ wrote...

my reaction too me3 ending


That works, but I like this one more.


...and I was like

#21218
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Just beat the game. With all the whining about the ending, I thought it was going to be a "it was just a dream" ending or Normandy suicide crashing into Harbinger with the main characters holding hands. It wasn't the best ending and could have better reflected choices over the 3 games , but it was unique (albeit the final 5 minutes was DE:HR-ish) and well written/directed and certainly did not deserve all that massive nerd rage spewed all over the forums.

Modifié par Torrible, 12 mars 2012 - 09:26 .


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Torrible wrote...

Just beat the game. With all the whining about the ending, I thought it was going to be a "it was just a dream" ending or Normandy suicide crashing into Harbinger with the main characters holding hands. It wasn't the best ending and could have better reflected choices over the 3 games, but it was unique and well written/directed and certainly did not deserve all that massive nerd rage spewed all over the forums.


Hahahahahaha.... You're joking right?

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Torrible wrote...
...but it was unique and well written/directed and certainly did not deserve all that massive nerd rage spewed all over the forums.


...Did we play the same game?

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Sl4sh3r wrote...

Hey guys!

Forum Signature Update:

I have no idea WTF Photobucket is doing. I ended up making a new album and uploading all of the updated signature pictures in there

Sorry for the inconvenience!


Thank you!

#21223
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Tyion133 wrote...

SP One Nineteen wrote...

I agree with you Dragonfire. I wanted more than anything to sit on a hill, or wherever Shep's house might be and enjoy the rest of his life with Liara (my LI) and a pair of beautiful blue daughters.
We don't get that.
But I just read something that I truly did not take into account....BW was trying to set the stage for ME4....Well....If this goes through I just want my happily ever after. I understand why they can't give it to me, but that doesn't take my right to want it away.


If they did this just to set up for a possible ME4, then i'd be so pissed...


But they said (not that I'm sure I can trust them anymore Image IPB ) that this is the LAST story for Shepard. So if ME4 were to ever be made it would what? finish the fight? Without Shepard? What's the fracking point? Bioware took my Shepard and threw him into a mass grave with all the parting words of "What a legend he was, my sweet." Master Chief at least got a funeral, I get a wild goose chase of an ending that has my paranoid mind pointlessly second guessing itself.

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Torrible wrote...

Just beat the game. With all the whining about the ending, I thought it was going to be a "it was just a dream" ending or Normandy suicide crashing into Harbinger with the main characters holding hands. It wasn't the best ending and could have better reflected choices over the 3 games , but it was unique (albeit the final 5 minutes was DE:HR-ish) and well written/directed and certainly did not deserve all that massive nerd rage spewed all over the forums.


This was my first reaction as well, until I began to really think it all over.

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Chatboy 91 wrote...

Torrible wrote...
...but it was unique and well written/directed and certainly did not deserve all that massive nerd rage spewed all over the forums.


...Did we play the same game?


He might be on the wrong fourm.