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[quote]kingsims wrote...

LOL if shepard dies and the Loyal LI lives i wonder what will happen to characters like Liara who have an "obsession".
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ali hillis ( drool) hinted at a liara  spin off in that 20 minute video with pwned . now im not saying shes serious but this could be a way to open up the door to solo spin off titles regarding the former crew

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[quote]Tazzmission wrote...

[quote]kingsims wrote...

LOL if shepard dies and the Loyal LI lives i wonder what will happen to characters like Liara who have an "obsession".
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ali hillis ( drool) hinted at a liara  spin off in that 20 minute video with pwned . now im not saying shes serious but this could be a way to open up the door to solo spin off titles regarding the former crew

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Zaeed Massani: Getting Your Bros Killed All Over the Galaxy: Part 2: Electric Boogaloo


I'd buy it.

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For those that think the endings are fake then explain this pic


http://i.imgur.com/YneT6.jpg


It shows a picture of four things exploding.  People have said the relays explode different colors depending on the ending.  How can we be sure that's real, however?  Maybe those are just four different scenes throughout a single ending, or throughout the game itself.  Does anyone stop and think that they've put their blind faith into the hands of others?  What if these Tank and Xio people were right about everything, and then turned around and decided to frelling troll you people because you gave them the power to do so.  I can't say I wouldn't be tempted (though I wouldn't) to do the same if I was in that position.  You hang onto every word of someone, you can get trapped.

I would have done it. I would have troll'd the living hell out of every excited boy and girl waiting for their Christmas in March.

I wonder if being a huge troll is covered in an NDA. Like I said: Halo's Tom Morello incident lives on in my heart.

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[quote]casedawgz wrote...

[quote]Tazzmission wrote...

[quote]kingsims wrote...

LOL if shepard dies and the Loyal LI lives i wonder what will happen to characters like Liara who have an "obsession".
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ali hillis ( drool) hinted at a liara  spin off in that 20 minute video with pwned . now im not saying shes serious but this could be a way to open up the door to solo spin off titles regarding the former crew

[/quote]

Zaeed Massani: Getting Your Bros Killed All Over the Galaxy: Part 2: Electric Boogaloo


I'd buy it.

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id kill for a kasumi spin off

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Tazzmission wrote...


oh i know alot and apparently just because i dont think like you im wrong right?


im sticking up for me3 because i want to play this game not as a fanboy but as a gamer.

im sticking up for the devs ( even though i have my own little thoughts on them) because i see by far the most disgusting childish comments on here and its pretty disturbing.


for you to go out and say they have choosen to be lazy or just didnt care is a major insult to them.


i dont give a crap if you didnt get what you want your acting like a selfish spoiled child


ever stop to think that some people actually enjoyed da2? ever stop to think that someone like me enjoys mass effect because its scifi?


ever stop to think that not everyone is a completionist let alone a major rpg nut?


hell i admit myself mass effect is the only rpg type game i have ever played and hell again im not a fan of shooters and yet i love it in mass effect

i mean my god a change happened when it came to is me2 a true rpg  and omg the endings for me3 are not what you expected it to be fine w/e make your argument and stop and  get used to it because if you hate any change you might as well quit gaming as a whole with w/e franchise


I don't think you know alot, I don't think your as big of a gamer as I. This is a rpg game that's been dumbed down then now seems to becoming more of an RPG. The devs can stick up for themselves. I won't insult if they were rushed and if they weren't what's the excuse? You do give a crap or you wouldn't be arguing with me. You call me a child, but you can't even capitalize the beginning of your sentences. You have no say to me, you admit you don't play RPGs. I don't know why I'm talking to you. The last thing you say is don't complain and take it up ass and like it.

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Question, does the Witcher games have "good" endings? No The Deus Ex games? No Planescape Torment? No. Both Ultima VII The Black Gate and The Serpent Isle? No The ORIGINAL Fallout? The game where the character is ALWAYS outcast from Vault 13.....

They all have bittersweet endings or make you choose between them.


What does the fact that certain games have sad endings have to do with anything?  Absolutely nobody is arguing that ALL video games MUST have happy endings.  We're just saying that it would have been nice if, in a game ostensibly based on choices, there was a bit more variety in the endings available, including--yes--a happier version.  For you to repeatedly claim that you're happy we're not getting what we want is cruel and a bit pretentious.  Take your sad ending and praise the writers but don't deny us ours.

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Cor7ana wrote...

The Free Jaffa wrote...

CerberusSoldier wrote...

For those that think the endings are fake then explain this pic


http://i.imgur.com/YneT6.jpg


It shows a picture of four things exploding.  People have said the relays explode different colors depending on the ending.  How can we be sure that's real, however?  Maybe those are just four different scenes throughout a single ending, or throughout the game itself.  Does anyone stop and think that they've put their blind faith into the hands of others?  What if these Tank and Xio people were right about everything, and then turned around and decided to frelling troll you people because you gave them the power to do so.  I can't say I wouldn't be tempted (though I wouldn't) to do the same if I was in that position.  You hang onto every word of someone, you can get trapped.

I would have done it. I would have troll'd the living hell out of every excited boy and girl waiting for their Christmas in March.

I wonder if being a huge troll is covered in an NDA. Like I said: Halo's Tom Morello incident lives on in my heart.


I like to think that Tank's sterling track record with such matters was a carefully constructed long con. He's been playing a deep, deep game for years, slowly winning our trust so he can troll us harder than Reagan trolled the Soviet Union.

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casedawgz wrote...

txgoldrush wrote...

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Sins of the Father? The whole arc of him raising Alexander? There was a ton of stuff for Worf to do in TNG.


but he lacks the development he goes through in DS9.


I just hate Dax and Bashir to such a degree that it overshadows the positives of DS9 for me. For me the shows are ranked:

TNG
TOS
Voyager
DS9
Enterprise


DS9 is the best, its the best written, with ballsier storylines "In The Pale Moonlight" is a huge shock in the series, the best action scenes, the best character development, the most diverse episodes, etc.

Also two words.....The Visitor.

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Zaeed Missani has shepards back don't worry. Zaeed should have his own DLC where Shepard and him start a space pirate faction.

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I don't care for dark or unhappy endings heck I planned on having one for my canon. I just can't wrap my head around these endings. There are tons of glaring plot holes and absolutely no replay value in these endings.

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kingsims wrote...

Zaeed Missani has shepards back don't worry. Zaeed should have his own DLC where Shepard and him start a space pirate faction.

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DAMN good rifle. 

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casedawgz wrote...

Cor7ana wrote...

The Free Jaffa wrote...

CerberusSoldier wrote...

For those that think the endings are fake then explain this pic


http://i.imgur.com/YneT6.jpg


It shows a picture of four things exploding.  People have said the relays explode different colors depending on the ending.  How can we be sure that's real, however?  Maybe those are just four different scenes throughout a single ending, or throughout the game itself.  Does anyone stop and think that they've put their blind faith into the hands of others?  What if these Tank and Xio people were right about everything, and then turned around and decided to frelling troll you people because you gave them the power to do so.  I can't say I wouldn't be tempted (though I wouldn't) to do the same if I was in that position.  You hang onto every word of someone, you can get trapped.

I would have done it. I would have troll'd the living hell out of every excited boy and girl waiting for their Christmas in March.

I wonder if being a huge troll is covered in an NDA. Like I said: Halo's Tom Morello incident lives on in my heart.


I like to think that Tank's sterling track record with such matters was a carefully constructed long con. He's been playing a deep, deep game for years, slowly winning our trust so he can troll us harder than Reagan trolled the Soviet Union.

I'm at a disadvantage here, since I haven't a frakking clue as to who Tank is or what his history is or where his credentials are from.

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Tietj wrote...

txgoldrush wrote...

Question, does the Witcher games have "good" endings? No The Deus Ex games? No Planescape Torment? No. Both Ultima VII The Black Gate and The Serpent Isle? No The ORIGINAL Fallout? The game where the character is ALWAYS outcast from Vault 13.....

They all have bittersweet endings or make you choose between them.


What does the fact that certain games have sad endings have to do with anything?  Absolutely nobody is arguing that ALL video games MUST have happy endings.  We're just saying that it would have been nice if, in a game ostensibly based on choices, there was a bit more variety in the endings available, including--yes--a happier version.  For you to repeatedly claim that you're happy we're not getting what we want is cruel and a bit pretentious.  Take your sad ending and praise the writers but don't deny us ours.


Here is the problem, if there was a "happy" ending, this makes all the other endings less important and pointless. Like a player failure than actual storytelling. Who knows the sad ending could have a happier and hopeful tone.

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Wars don't end in sunshine and rainbows with fluffy bunnies hoping around. I'm real sorry that the story didn't have a predictable, storybook ending, but that's life.

In war, you always have to choose the lesser of two evils. There are no happy endings.

It's not about the ending, it's about the journey.

Modifié par jeinasindorei, 29 février 2012 - 09:31 .


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txgoldrush wrote...

Tietj wrote...

txgoldrush wrote...

Question, does the Witcher games have "good" endings? No The Deus Ex games? No Planescape Torment? No. Both Ultima VII The Black Gate and The Serpent Isle? No The ORIGINAL Fallout? The game where the character is ALWAYS outcast from Vault 13.....

They all have bittersweet endings or make you choose between them.


What does the fact that certain games have sad endings have to do with anything?  Absolutely nobody is arguing that ALL video games MUST have happy endings.  We're just saying that it would have been nice if, in a game ostensibly based on choices, there was a bit more variety in the endings available, including--yes--a happier version.  For you to repeatedly claim that you're happy we're not getting what we want is cruel and a bit pretentious.  Take your sad ending and praise the writers but don't deny us ours.


Here is the problem, if there was a "happy" ending, this makes all the other endings less important and pointless. Like a player failure than actual storytelling. Who knows the sad ending could have a happier and hopeful tone.

There's the crux... you don't want other people to have what they want because it somehow "lessens" the one that you want.  We're not asking for our ending at the exclusion of your satisfaction, but you want yours at the exclusion of ours. 

Modifié par Tietj, 29 février 2012 - 09:32 .


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jeinasindorei wrote...

Wars don't end in sunshine and rainbows with fluffy bunnies hoping around. I'm real sorry that the story didn't have a predictable, storybook ending, but that's life.

In war, you always have to choose the lesser of two evils. There are no happy endings.

People aren't asking for Shepard and the reapers to prance through a meadow hand in hand singing "Best Day EVER!"

They're complaining about a ****ty excuse for closure amongst characters.

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I don't think the main issue is lacking a happy ending it is the plot holes in the current bad ending. At least that is what I'm concerned about. I think we should fix the currently crummy 'dark' ending before worrying about any puppies and sunshine.

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Here is the problem, if there was a "happy" ending, this makes all the other endings less important and pointless. Like a player failure than actual storytelling. Who knows the sad ending could have a happier and hopeful tone.


So it's just like the previous game? The "No One Left Behind" ending is decidedly "happy" (everyone survives), and the other "segment" endings are just variations on a theme (Paragon/Renegade IM convo, Paragon/Renegade Joker and IM convo, memorial ending, memorial ending w/ Joker).

I don't see what the big difference is. If there's a happy ending to work for, I have no problem with it.

Modifié par crazyrabbits, 29 février 2012 - 09:32 .


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jeinasindorei wrote...

Wars don't end in sunshine and rainbows with fluffy bunnies hoping around. I'm real sorry that the story didn't have a predictable, storybook ending, but that's life.

In war, you always have to choose the lesser of two evils. There are no happy endings.

It's not about the ending, it's about the journey.


People should play Velvet Assassin....a WWII game thats not all glory, in fact, th eending could very well be the most grim official ending in a video game.

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I don't care for dark or unhappy endings heck I planned on having one for my canon. I just can't wrap my head around these endings. There are tons of glaring plot holes and absolutely no replay value in these endings.


This, considering Casey has said ME3 has more replay value that the other two games, gives me some hope (albeit small) that there's more too these endings than we know.

I'm reserving judgment until I've played the game to completion myself.

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txgoldrush wrote...

jeinasindorei wrote...

Wars don't end in sunshine and rainbows with fluffy bunnies hoping around. I'm real sorry that the story didn't have a predictable, storybook ending, but that's life.

In war, you always have to choose the lesser of two evils. There are no happy endings.

It's not about the ending, it's about the journey.


People should play Velvet Assassin....a WWII game thats not all glory, in fact, th eending could very well be the most grim official ending in a video game.

Velvet Assassin was an insult to Violette Szabo

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GTA IV was pretty goddamn dark. Niko's perceptions of the American dream are shattered, the woman (or his cousin, but that ending is dumb) he loves is dead, and he has sacrificed everything for a revenge that rings hollow when he final achieves it. His friends congratulate him on his victory and he agrees dismissively; it was no victory at all.

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Interesting choices if those endings are true. That is all I have to say about them, really. Can't say they fill me with rage or disappointment; but it's not like I'm impressed either. :P

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Tietj wrote...

txgoldrush wrote...

jeinasindorei wrote...

Wars don't end in sunshine and rainbows with fluffy bunnies hoping around. I'm real sorry that the story didn't have a predictable, storybook ending, but that's life.

In war, you always have to choose the lesser of two evils. There are no happy endings.

It's not about the ending, it's about the journey.


People should play Velvet Assassin....a WWII game thats not all glory, in fact, th eending could very well be the most grim official ending in a video game.

Velvet Assassin was an insult to Violette Szabo


And if you look at the game, it was never about Szabo....in fact the game took place BEFORE Szabo was even doing missions. The only similiarity was the first name.

And NO game has ever portrayed the Warsaw Ghetto Uprising and massacre. They did a damn good job with that level.

Modifié par txgoldrush, 29 février 2012 - 09:38 .


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DifferentD17 wrote...

Tazzmission wrote...


oh i know alot and apparently just because i dont think like you im wrong right?


im sticking up for me3 because i want to play this game not as a fanboy but as a gamer.

im sticking up for the devs ( even though i have my own little thoughts on them) because i see by far the most disgusting childish comments on here and its pretty disturbing.


for you to go out and say they have choosen to be lazy or just didnt care is a major insult to them.


i dont give a crap if you didnt get what you want your acting like a selfish spoiled child


ever stop to think that some people actually enjoyed da2? ever stop to think that someone like me enjoys mass effect because its scifi?


ever stop to think that not everyone is a completionist let alone a major rpg nut?


hell i admit myself mass effect is the only rpg type game i have ever played and hell again im not a fan of shooters and yet i love it in mass effect

i mean my god a change happened when it came to is me2 a true rpg  and omg the endings for me3 are not what you expected it to be fine w/e make your argument and stop and  get used to it because if you hate any change you might as well quit gaming as a whole with w/e franchise


 I won't insult if they were rushed and if they weren't what's the excuse? You do give a crap or you wouldn't be arguing with me. You call me a child, but you can't even capitalize the beginning of your sentences. You have no say to me, you admit you don't play RPGs. I don't know why I'm talking to you. The last thing you say is don't complain and take it up ass and like it.





yea i do give a crap you know why? because despite my fears and little nitpicks and no matter how much you or anyone else crys moans  demand demand demand you arent going to ruin this game for me

i have my little beefs with the franchise as a whole but i dont go around and act childish about it

you think its ok to call people lazy who busted there butts off for at least 3 years because you didnt get what you want.


 theres one thing you need to learn and that thing is respect.


insult me all you want in the future i dont care but i like to see you bust your butt off for the same amount of time and take all the same heat bioware gets currently

im pretty sure you wouldnt like it either since your all mad i called you a child