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[Aiden_Cora]

VampireCommando wrote...

Do you guys really think we can do this? Make a diffrence i mean? The gaming media is slamming us pritty hard and we have had nothing from BioWare on this yet.

I believe that just by talking about it and voicing our concerns we're already making a difference. Plus, a few websites has already noticed our emotional plight. I'd call that a result.

[Matt_gekko88]

Generic Name wrote...

XIzCarnageXIXZ wrote...

can not wait to see bioware explain this

I assume it will read something like: "This was the ending we've entended from the start. Deal with it."

Would not be very satisfying, right? Would also not fit to BioWare.
Just like the ending doesn't fit to the rest of the series.

[N085]

VampireCommando wrote...

Do you guys really think we can do this? Make a diffrence i mean? The gaming media is slamming us pritty hard and we have had nothing from BioWare on this yet.

Honestly, yes i do believe we can do this. We just have to show that we are NOT going to back down.

[Ghost Rider LSOV]

PhoenixDove1 wrote...

I can't be the only one who thinks that giving Shepard a happy ending (or several different ones ME2 anyone?) would still make it final? I can accept they don't want to make another Shepard story, I was well aware of that. Ending it this does not make it final for me. And it's not just unanswered questions.

Even Shepard himself (not sure if it was a Paragon option) said at some point "when this is over, I'll stop fighting."

He's tired of it all. Death isn't the only option (or the weird ending where he's alive). Retirement is too. Although we know heroes never retire for too long.

[KaiserinKai]

XenoAlbedo wrote...

Torrible wrote...

Just beat the game. With all the whining about the ending, I thought it was going to be a "it was just a dream" ending or Normandy suicide crashing into Harbinger with the main characters holding hands. It wasn't the best ending and could have better reflected choices over the 3 games , but it was unique (albeit the final 5 minutes was DE:HR-ish) and well written/directed and certainly did not deserve all that massive nerd rage spewed all over the forums.

Well written? Well written?! The endings lacked variety, are nothing pleasing to the fans, have stupid plots, poor story value, and so many plot holes that if we were to stack all these negative things up, it would create a mountain of crap so large that it would reach the galactic core, in which the mountain would be sucked into a black hole, pulling Earth with it.

Exactly.

Let's see, God Kid AI from nowhere, Fail Argument that Synthetics will always destroy Organics so he created Synthetics to kill organics every 50k years(Wha...?), which makes even less sense if you managed to make piece between the Quarians and the Geth.

Then we have Shepard who always stands up for what he believes in and never lets the Reapers control him/her not even argue this point.

How did Anderson and the Illusive Man get on to the Citidel? As far as I could see there was only one passage into that room, aka the way I walked. The Arms were closed, only way the Illusive man could have been there is if he somehow made it there before the arms closed. With all the dead bodies lying around, how did he avoid getting killed? Then we have Anderson. How did he get ahead of us? We heard Hackett saying no one made it to the beam prior to entering, yet somehow Anderson was already there...

Then we have Joker flying away for some reason and the party members including my LI in my case some how magically teleported aboard. Garrus and Joker followed me through all 3 games, through thick and thin. Why are they leaving me? How did Garrus and Javik even get there, they were on on Earth in my party just a few minutes prior.
Then we have the "Space Magic" of ending green.

Let's not even go into that fact that all of your choices come down to choosing red, blue, or green...

It's wasn't Shepard dying that made me upset, I don't want Rainbows and Unicorns. I just want an ending that makes bloody sense...

[Generic Name]

Matt_gekko88 wrote...

Generic Name wrote...

XIzCarnageXIXZ wrote...

can not wait to see bioware explain this

I assume it will read something like: "This was the ending we've entended from the start. Deal with it."

Would not be very satisfying, right? Would also not fit to BioWare.
Just like the ending doesn't fit to the rest of the series.

To be honest I have no idea how they have sounded in the past as I only began to post during the weekend (was never this upset by one of their games before).

[Prince Lex]

PhoenixDove1 wrote...

Prince Lex wrote...

Can someone tell me how I edit my signature? I can't find it in the settings.

Also, I don't know whether it's the Kalms or the Hallucination theory, but the anxious grief is slowly being replaced with cautious hope.

Under profile then forum settings.  I experience the same emotions, anger grief and hope.  Draining.

I have sore eyes and feel all droopy but can't sleep. May sleep better tonight with that little ray of hope

Thanks for your help, found it .

[Doppelgaenger]

Rob8228 wrote...

thePredator50 wrote...

This thread moves way too fast to know if this has been mentioned already - Bioware is teasing at the indoctrination theory being right:

http://social.biowar...423/200#9831861

This made me extremely hopeful now. Wow.

Yeah me to. If they planned this all along I will just admit that they are awesome trolls.

[Kyzee]

This is an awesome Paragon (or Renegade, with some rewording) interrupt of the last scene with the Star Child: http://social.biowar...28201/2#9830580

This is exactly what I wanted my Shepard to say, and the result I was looking for. This is an ending that I could have accepted.

On another note, who the heck made the false equivilancy of "happy ending" and "Disney ending?" This denigrates all happy endings as lesser story conclusions, which is so utterly ridiculous that I see no need to discuss at length. I worked hard in the hopes of having my Shepard save the galaxy, and that she could finally live happily with Kaidan. I was denied that choice in a game that emphasizes choices!

Furthermore, even if Shepard survived, look at all of those who wouldn't! All of the characters who died were dear to me, and their deaths were painful to witness. Then there are the billions who were killed and the numerous worlds that were deimated before the Reapers could be stopped. (Who else felt like they had personally failed after the events on Thessia?) This is hardly a "sunshine and bunnies" ending. It is, however, a satisfactory one, and not the betrayal that I feel I was subjected to. 

[SP One Nineteen]

WOWOWOW, WAIT JUST A MINUTE! What is all this stuff about the "indoc theory" I have not heard of this till now....

~.~

[MrJu1c3]

VampireCommando wrote...

Do you guys really think we can do this? Make a diffrence i mean? The gaming media is slamming us pritty hard and we have had nothing from BioWare on this yet.

I think we can. I wouldn't expect a response until a little bit after the 15th though, 'cause that's when the game launches in Japan.

Hold the line!

[Elanor]

Nathos wrote...

OverwatchGMX wrote...

 

lol

xD

[Tyion133]

XIzCarnageXIXZ wrote...

can not wait to see bioware explain this

Im beginning to think that this is a major build-up to a aprils fool prank or something stupid like that...
 
Nonetheless I will keep focusing on the issue at hand, and keep hoping that our voices will be heard...

But before that we will hold the line!

[Matt_gekko88]

VampireCommando wrote...

Do you guys really think we can do this? Make a diffrence i mean? The gaming media is slamming us pritty hard and we have had nothing from BioWare on this yet.

Well, the only thing we can do is to fight for our opinion and belief. This forum exists, because BioWare sees itself as a fan-near, community-oriented developer who wants to know what their customers/fans are thinking. So, again, why not use this?

I just don't want to end five years of gaming, hundreds of hours with Shepard, Garrus, Tali etc. this way. And this has nothing to do with selfishness or arrogance, since Mass Effect always also (to a part) belonged to the fans playing it.

Modifié par Matt_gekko88, 12 mars 2012 - 09:57 .

[SP One Nineteen]

Doppelgaenger wrote...

Rob8228 wrote...

thePredator50 wrote...

This thread moves way too fast to know if this has been mentioned already - Bioware is teasing at the indoctrination theory being right:

http://social.biowar...423/200#9831861

This made me extremely hopeful now. Wow.

Yeah me to. If they planned this all along I will just admit that they are awesome trolls.

If this is truth, my complete faith in bioware has been restored, they have my money forever, and I shall continue holding the line for them.

[Chatboy 91]

OverwatchGMX wrote...

 

BRILLIANT!

[ColloquialAnachron]

VampireCommando wrote...

Do you guys really think we can do this? Make a diffrence i mean? The gaming media is slamming us pritty hard and we have had nothing from BioWare on this yet.

If we do nothing, nothing changes.  We'd have no one to blame but ourselves. We deserve what we do.   If we act now and do not let up, do not lose interest, and do not stop using our voice something will change.  If Bioware ignores the very fans it claims to the industry that it listens to, more articles like the two Forbes articles will become the norm rather than the exception.  The ability of gaming media to continue to prop up the ideal of a fan-friendly Bioware will become flimsy, profits will fall all around and cracks will show.

 If Bioware listens, everyone wins.  Their image is at least somewhat restored, profits continue if not increase, and the fans know that if something is truly problematic, truly wrong, and if they do not give up, Bioware will listen.  That will only increase fan and brand loyalty, and only benefit everyone. 

That's if we keep doing something, if we do nothing then we deserve all that we do.

[Vorlon010]

Matt_gekko88 wrote...

Generic Name wrote...

XIzCarnageXIXZ wrote...

can not wait to see bioware explain this

I assume it will read something like: "This was the ending we've entended from the start. Deal with it."

Would not be very satisfying, right? Would also not fit to BioWare.
Just like the ending doesn't fit to the rest of the series.

Even just that would be better than nothing though - I mean, at that stage I could just say 'okay, we had a good run, don't expect any of my money anymore Bioware'. Better than not knowing and being ignored, anyway.

(Also, first post: I didn't want spoilers, but so glad I did - I would be acting like the world's biggest a**hole to everyone around me if presented with that out of the blue)

[Alamandorious]

AdrynBliss wrote...

Having now seen the end, or should I say my end, in context i'm surprised to find I don't actually mind it that much, even kinda satisfied with it. I'm even fairly embarrassed by some of the things I said about it before seeing it myself.

The 'starkid' did a ghostbusters and used an image from shep's mind as a form to interact with him and it wasn't exactly a stretch of the imagination to figure that after shep went into the beam the rest of the crew, unable to reach it either had joker pick them up or shuttled up to it in an effort to approach the citadel then when it was about to do its thing unable to know exactly what the effect would be they got the hell away from it.

Not having the right to fundamentally alter the DNA of trillions of people whether they liked it or not and not willing to be the one to control the reapers I just blew the damn thing up.

As far as i'm aware the relays did not blow up and the Normandy no doubt has a beefy distress signal, where they might have crashed could be extrapolated from their last known location and trajectory so help would be on the way when they don't report in.

Would I like a long epilogue explaining all the details and what happened to everyone? sure, i'm one of those gamers that eats that stuff up but i wouldn't categorize not having that as 'wrong'

Actually, the ghost kid said himself that the relays would blow up.  And we know, through the in-game codex and the DLC 'The Arrival', that a mass relay exploding takes out all terrestrial planets in a solar system.

[illutian]

zoider16 wrote...

Hopefully no one has posted this already, just found another gamefront article on the takebackme3 facebook page showing their on our side in all of this. http://www.gamefront...-to-gain-steam/ They are saying that Bioware is going to have to respond to this soon. They also seem to feel that Bioware and other gaming press sites will need to readjust their thinking that this nothing but a bunch of whining fanboys.

lol...is this what's wrong with the world?

Everyone who complains about unsatisfactory conditions in anything (Game, Work, Living Conditions) is just "whining".


Maybe if Bioware said something along the lines "ending isn't when it seems", a play on the phase "what it seems". The fanbase would get that what we saw isn't the actual ending.

[Dorfgonewild81]

couple minutes ago:

@masseffect Is BioWare looking into the BSN forums? Just so they'd see what the situation is over there.

@sanjuro_kwon Yes, Bioware moderates those forums, so they are aware of it.

So they are aware, now if we can just get them to be vocal...

[Reaperbeta]

VampireCommando wrote...

Do you guys really think we can do this? Make a diffrence i mean? The gaming media is slamming us pritty hard and we have had nothing from BioWare on this yet.

If they choose to ignore this many people who are still in a growing number. then that's bad for them, and considering the fact that these are fans who have signed up. this isn't like 1 day dlc which can go fairly unnoticed this is WAAAAY worse a situation to be in as devs.

[kojomon]

I loved this game, this series as a whole. I was having a blast all the way up until that little platform next to the crucible console lifted my beat down shepard into ****ing fantasy land.

What's up with starchild, "hey you made it big guy, I'm the reaper lord, you want me to stop? Alright no problem, done." .....ok. Just like that?

Little holo-kid made me go durp, but I could have looked past even that utter nonsense, then I "chose" an ending...I'm still looking for it, no REAL epilogue? (no some guy and kid standing on the moon in the future does not count) WTF happened to my team, to the fleets, to our god damn worlds!? Just bangreapersaredefeatedtheend, that fast. I reloaded and chose another ending or so I thought, the biggest difference was the pretty colors during that bang.

Sure there are supposedly differences, ok organics and synthetics are one, cool what's that mean? A shiny green technocoating I guess. No elaboration whatsoever, do they even notice there's glowy circuitry running through their bodies? Apparently not.

So sad am I.

[Computim]

24 hours later I've read some press 'commentary' at work and it just enraged me. Talking heads that think we're upset cause we didn't get the happy ending, that we're upset at the day one DLC on disc, that we're homophobic (seriously??).

I'll clarify it since I've had 24 hours to think it over.. I'm not upset I didn't get a happy ending. I'm upset that they obviously ran out of time with their ending, and put stuff together without regards to plot, canon, realism, and most importantly, the player's choices/consequences from the entire series when they touted, and frankly succeeded up until the last 10 minutes.

Being a computer programmer for occupation I can read into things with a bit more experience.. I'd like to know if the ending was left till the last (probably would have been since they wouldn't know the stories' complete details until content was wrapped up).. If that's the case they simply needed to have it go with text and still pictures and then do the rest as a paid DLC.