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GreenSoda wrote...

LethesDeep wrote...

thePredator50 wrote...

This thread moves way too fast to know if this has been mentioned already - Bioware is teasing at the indoctrination theory being right:

http://social.biowar...423/200#9831861


Of course they are. If they are gonna give in and release new endings the easiest way isn't to rewrite the endings we have now in an attempt to shoehorn more in. The easiest way to do things would be to just roll with the indocrination theory, mention what it was for everyone who didn't get it, then create actual endings with closure based on our decisions from there.

And you know what ? ...I'd be very happy with that.


One problem with the indoctrination theory, the reaper was blowing everything up when you get hit by the laser it completely melts your armour why would an offensive weapon indoctrinate.

If not then could they morally make their players pay to see the real ending?
It would be like selling literally halo 3 up to the point just before the prophet dies and then having a window pop up and say ending costs XXX microsoft points.

Even if they are bringing this out as a dlc, your squad, anderson and others all would have been right next to you when you were downed by the beam.

However points in it's favour is that the kid is the exact same as the one on Earth and the endings dont make sense (Love interest teleporting to normandy) and it being impossible to muster enough paragon points for the ending.

Only by stating our dissapointment at the percieved ending can we find out if this is the 'true ending' of our beloved shepard and crew.
Fight the good fight.

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VampireCommando wrote...

You guys make it sound like were fighting the reapers ourselves :P but on a serious note you guys are inspiring.

Hold the line!!

*runs of like grunt*


Who says we aren't fighting our own Reaper here? We've done the same thing Shepard did, we have united fans across the world who weeks ago were at each others throats and we've created a solid line of refusal to accept this, we have stood up and told a massive company that they not only dissapointed us but on an unacceptable level. We are fighting our own version of a Reaper here in a strange sense and in that same sense, we were all recruited by Shepard to fight. Because we fell in love with OUR Shepard and when we saw that ending, we refused to let it end that way for him/her because it hurt us so badly. 

I guess I sound a little insane here but...maybe a little insanity is good, yes? Hold the line my friends, the end shall not stand against us forever.

#21353
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Sunnyhat1 wrote...

This is exactly like i reacted. I thought "Ok maybe sheperd dies but how bad could it possibly be?" I couldn't understand all the fuzz until i saw it with my own eyes.

On the other hand. If the Indoctrination theory is right (or close to it) the real-end-DLC would sell like gold. Probably get the writers a dozen awards for best marketing coupe in recent gaming history.

You reading this Bioware? Make it happen!


While simulatneously ruining gaming forever by proving not only can you sell people an unfinished product, but you can then turn around and sell them the conclusion to it...

It's a slippery slope, as the majority will be so happy with a real ending that they won't stop and ask why the heck it wasn't on their purchased disc in the first place....

#21354
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MrJu1c3 wrote...

The game has apparently dropped to $45 on Amazon already.

"Rumors of a sharp price drop due to cancelled orders and the backlash have surfaced, and a quick check of Amazon.com has revealed that new copies of the game are available at retailers for around 45$ brand new." -- http://robotgeek.co....ect-3-backlash/

They can't ignore us now.


Irony is it'll cost them more now to bring back their staff off of post-release vacation binge that most studios have then it would have to give them another month to finish the 10 minutes of cutscenes :P Hopefully it'll be a notice to the beancounters that asking for a month isn't asking for Duke Nukem Forever.

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VampireCommando wrote...

You guys make it sound like were fighting the reapers ourselves :P but on a serious note you guys are inspiring.

Hold the line!!

*runs of like grunt*

We previously had nothing left to believe in. Now we do. Of course we are going to take this seriously ^^

#21356
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To be honest, the gaming media can call us whatever they want. If a few "journalists" happen to think that their opinion is in some way better than that of ~30,000 concerned players, then let them.

In some way I'm sad to see that the reaction to the endings is having financial impact. I'd rather BioWare would come to listen out of genuine interest in the opinion of their fans (sounds naive, I know) rather than in response to the pressure caused by price decay of their product and EA's fuming about shrinking profit margins. It's a shame it always reverts to that...

Modifié par beyondsolo, 12 mars 2012 - 10:21 .


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I hate paying for a DLC that should be on the game, but if they decides to change the history and give us the a really good ending (like the 16 "endings" we have now but really well made and most important where you choices really matter, with all the pain on my heart i will buy it :P, if not like i said it will join DA2, Mafia2, Duke Nukem Forever, and other franchises that died with the last game, and was selling at 50% price a few weeks after the launch :(.

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Major Kirrahe: HOLD THE LINE!

Modifié par Polat995, 12 mars 2012 - 10:21 .


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I want to believe.

The indoctrination theory is perfect and I think the players may have bested BioWare. I mean, the writers create a terrible ending to Mass Effect 3 that gets a huge backlash. They are scrambling at EA trying to save the stock from falling and are on the phone with Bioware screaming to do something to placate the players. Bioware sees this theory about indoctrination and scoops it up. I mean, it is brilliant. The players solve Bioware's problem ending and hopefully stop EA's stock drop at the same time.

Yes, I am jaded and cynical but if it gets me my better ending, then I will take it.

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This: http://cdn2.gamefron...hyeschoices.jpg

just made my day.

Anyway here some cryptic twitter quotes from Mike Gamble:
https://twitter.com/...942797880541185

Is there hope yet?

Modifié par Doppelgaenger, 12 mars 2012 - 10:22 .


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this seems lagit, but does the relays still blow up if this is true?

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beyondsolo wrote...

To be honest, the gaming media can call us whatever they want. If a few "journalists" happen to think that their opinion is in some way better than that of ~30,000 concerned players, then let them.

In some way I'm sad to see that the reaction to the endings is having financial impact. I'd rather BioWare would come to listen out of genuine interest in the opinion of their fans (sounds naive, I know) rather than in response to the pressure caused by price decay of their product and EA's fuming about shrinking profit margins. It's a shame it always reverts to that...


Renegade Option: Punch them

Paragon option: Get your friend to punch them.

#21364
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At my first playthrough of ME3 I thought in the second playthrough shepard would probably resist shooting Anderson, so instead of shep. Anderson sacrifices. What I mean is that shep, still makes the decision but because Anderson knows that Shepard is so important he says you should go back to the normandy, he will handle this (then some goodbye bla bla) and then he makes, what you have choosen. (I think it would be even better when the Mass relays are not destroyed, but even if they are,) you still crash on this planet with your friends, and not only your friends and your shep dies. (Then probably a better end video) Done.

AND : it would be sooo easy to put in: lets just say that that when you went down, because of harbringer, you only dreamed the bad ending. And the real end starts when you wake up in front of the beam again. Even that would be more acceptable for me than what we've got. [Sorry for bad english, isnt my native language.

#21365
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Doppelgaenger wrote...

This: http://cdn2.gamefron...hyeschoices.jpg

just made my day.

Anyway here some cryptic twitter quotes from Mike Gamble:
https://twitter.com/...942797880541185

Is there hope yet?


Sounds interesting. Some of my hope is back :o As long as it's not like another Overlord or something...

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P_sutherland wrote...

beyondsolo wrote...

To be honest, the gaming media can call us whatever they want. If a few "journalists" happen to think that their opinion is in some way better than that of ~30,000 concerned players, then let them.

In some way I'm sad to see that the reaction to the endings is having financial impact. I'd rather BioWare would come to listen out of genuine interest in the opinion of their fans (sounds naive, I know) rather than in response to the pressure caused by price decay of their product and EA's fuming about shrinking profit margins. It's a shame it always reverts to that...


Renegade Option: Punch them

Paragon option: Get your friend to punch them.


Synthesis Option: You both punch them

#21367
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I started my second play-through and as I got to the Mars mission and met up with Liara, and she mentioned the Prothean device, I thought to myself..."whats the point."  

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Zaizer wrote...

P_sutherland wrote...

beyondsolo wrote...

To be honest, the gaming media can call us whatever they want. If a few "journalists" happen to think that their opinion is in some way better than that of ~30,000 concerned players, then let them.

In some way I'm sad to see that the reaction to the endings is having financial impact. I'd rather BioWare would come to listen out of genuine interest in the opinion of their fans (sounds naive, I know) rather than in response to the pressure caused by price decay of their product and EA's fuming about shrinking profit margins. It's a shame it always reverts to that...


Renegade Option: Punch them

Paragon option: Get your friend to punch them.


Synthesis Option: You both punch them


This actually made me laugh. Image IPB

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meteng wrote...

Unless the DLC is post-ending (or preferably the ending rewritten), I have no real interest in it. The Mass Effect universe is no more so why bother?


This needs to be shouted from the rooftops. Bioware, not fixing the ending is a bad business decision. You are banking on selling gads of DLC, I'm sure. Nothing wrong with that. I was first in line for all the ME1 and ME2 DLC. Ate it right up. But I don't see any point in buying ME3 DLC, since I know that no matter what content is added, it doesn't matter in the end.

I don't want to play ME3 anymore because of the ending. So why would I buy DLC that I don't want to play? To sell that DLC, you need to fix the ending. Not a threat, not a boycott - just a purchasing decision on my part. DLC just isn't worth it without a fix.

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TSC_1 wrote...

More from Kotaku.

He's defending the lack of our choices mattering and the massive shift in tone.

I have no words.

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TSC_1 wrote...

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TSC_1 wrote...

More from Kotaku.



I will just start ignoring Kotaku completely. Every 5min they send a different message...<_<

And honestly, why is the choice of having our Shep live not included? We had it for ME2, why can't we have for ME3? Because it's the end? So? Can't heroes live? I mean, all I want is a chance to die and chance to live. And I get to pick. That's it. 

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Zaizer wrote...

P_sutherland wrote...

beyondsolo wrote...

To be honest, the gaming media can call us whatever they want. If a few "journalists" happen to think that their opinion is in some way better than that of ~30,000 concerned players, then let them.

In some way I'm sad to see that the reaction to the endings is having financial impact. I'd rather BioWare would come to listen out of genuine interest in the opinion of their fans (sounds naive, I know) rather than in response to the pressure caused by price decay of their product and EA's fuming about shrinking profit margins. It's a shame it always reverts to that...


Renegade Option: Punch them

Paragon option: Get your friend to punch them.


Synthesis Option: You both punch them


Catalyst Option: You build robots to punch reporters... and every 50k years after these robots return to punch reporters whining about fans ruining their me3 scope.

#21374
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Rosery99 wrote...

VampireCommando wrote...

You guys make it sound like were fighting the reapers ourselves :P but on a serious note you guys are inspiring.

Hold the line!!

*runs of like grunt*


Who says we aren't fighting our own Reaper here? We've done the same thing Shepard did, we have united fans across the world who weeks ago were at each others throats and we've created a solid line of refusal to accept this, we have stood up and told a massive company that they not only dissapointed us but on an unacceptable level. We are fighting our own version of a Reaper here in a strange sense and in that same sense, we were all recruited by Shepard to fight. Because we fell in love with OUR Shepard and when we saw that ending, we refused to let it end that way for him/her because it hurt us so badly. 

I guess I sound a little insane here but...maybe a little insanity is good, yes? Hold the line my friends, the end shall not stand against us forever.

Yeah, we are in an uphill battle but it is worth it because we fight for a just cause. Hold the line so Commander Shepard doesn't go down just because random God kid likes Skittles.

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Sunnyhat1 wrote...
This is exactly like i reacted. I thought "Ok maybe sheperd dies but how bad could it possibly be?" I couldn't understand all the fuzz until i saw it with my own eyes.

On the other hand. If the Indoctrination theory is right (or close to it) the real-end-DLC would sell like gold. Probably get the writers a dozen awards for best marketing coupe in recent gaming history.

You reading this Bioware? Make it happen!


More like the stupidist scheme. Yes, lets ****** off the fans. Not tell them it wasn't the real ending. Then sell them the real ending.

And anyone who bought it would be a damn fool.